Henry
Tue Jun 05 08:06:18 CDT 2007
Thanks Jason.
I believe that your cheapest option will be to Swing the Users off the
SBServer 2000 and Re-image that server with Windows Server 2003 R2 +
Exchange Server & requisite CALs joining it to your new Child Domain and
then Swing the user accounts back.
Do your own sums, but IMO The cost of the Upgrades, Transition Pack, Tpack
CALs is going to be more than the WinServer + Exchange & CALs on Open
License. ( it would be different if you also wanted to keep SQL Server and
ISA )
( You'll also be free of legacy furballs that have accumulated on the SBS
2000. )
--
Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}
"Jason" <Jason@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1C967F0E-255E-4529-A6AF-B904BC3B2FB8@microsoft.com...
> Hi Henry.
>
> Thanks for the reply. What I am trying to do is move away from SBS
> altogether but I want to keep exchange. So in site A I have the root
> domain
> (groupname.local) plust the site DC (locationA.groupname.local). In site B
> they are currently running SBS 2000 with Exchange but due to SBS
> limitations
> I cant join it to the new domain. So I need to get a new server in with
> standard 2003 R2 as they are getting close to having storage problems and
> join it to the new domain as locationB.groupname.local then transfer the
> user
> accounts and current data. I then want to use the old server as the email
> and
> printer server as it is already set up for this but idealy I want to join
> it
> to the domain and have it as a second DC.
>
> So this is in short what I have:
>
> 3 sites that are going to become part of the same WAN.
> Site A has root DC plus site DC all set and working as it should.
> Site B is currently running SBS 2000 but I want site B to join the new
> domain.
> New server with 2003 R2 standard will be purchased joined to the new
> domain
> and user accounts migrated accross.
>
> The problem I have with the SBS server is it has exchange which we need to
> keep. Idealy I would like it to be a DC on the new domain however exchange
> is
> the priority.
>
> So I am looking for the most cost effective way of getting from a single
> server with SBS 2000 to 2 servers with Windows 2003 R2 standard edition
> but
> still use the exchange that is on the SBS server (If possible!)
>
> Thanks for the advise again!
>
> Jason
>
>
> "Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}" wrote:
>
>> Hi Jason.
>> Can I ask why when you will have the new SBS 2003 R2 with Exchange you
>> also
>> want a second Exchange Server or to have the Exch Svr off the SBServer ?
>>
>> You obviously understand that you cannot have 2 SBServers in the same
>> Domain.
>>
>> Your option for the SBS 2000 box is to transition pack it but as the
>> Trans
>> Pack for 2000 isn't available any more (AFAIK), your path is to
>>
>> Update SBS 2000 to SBS 2003 R2 Premium - $699 T75-01256
>>
>> How to Upgrade to Windows Small Business Server 2003 R2
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/upgrade/default.mspx#EDC
>>
>> Transition Pack SBS 2003 R2 Premium to Premium Set of servers. - $2,979
>> T75-01258
>>
>> Install New SBS 2003 R2 Standard as new DC / Root of Forest Disabling
>> Exchange Server.
>> ( Remember you cannot -move- it off the SBS box )
>> Demoting and Uninstalling Unwanted Premium Parts of the Old Upgraded Now
>> Win
>> Server 2003
>> Upgrade WinServer 2003 to R2 (if you want real R2 - Remember SBS R2 does
>> not
>> have the Win2003 Server R2 bits )
>>
>> All -very- messy, and extremely expensive.
>>
>> It would be cheaper ( and cleaner ) to:
>>
>> Swing to the New SBS 2003 R2 Standard.
>> Purchase and install a Win 2003 R2 Server on the old box - member or
>> Replica
>> DC ( Access CALs covered by SBS )
>> If you really must -
>> Purchase and Install Exchange 2003 Server on the Win 2003 R2 Server - (
>> Access CALs covered by SBS )
>>
>> The cost of the Win 2003 R2 Server + Exchange 2003 Server will be less
>> that
>> the Trans Packs plus Upgrades, and a lot less time and hassle involved.
>> Given that you -get- an Exch Server with the SBS 2003 Buying a second so
>> as
>> to put it on a separate box makes no sense IMHO at least for a business
>> with
>> less than a 100 Mailboxes or so. - Because you have SBS as the
>> Authenticating Server you're still limited to the SBS 75 CALs.
>>
>> Maybe if you tell us your scenario, motivation, we can come up with a
>> better
>> plan.
>> --
>> Henry Craven {SBS-MVP}
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jason" <Jason@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:21CF2633-C567-42A8-89E0-CE0CDBF6D244@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > One of the sites that I look after is currently running SBS 2000 but
>> > due
>> > to
>> > the company restructure and site locations I have started to rebuild
>> > the
>> > network into a single domain structure. This is the problem. I am going
>> > to
>> > purchase a new server with 2003 R2 standard edition and run all the
>> > usual
>> > services from it. It will be part of the new domain,
>> > location.groupname.local
>> > but I want the old SBS server to also join the domain to be the email,
>> > print
>> > and archive server as well as a second DC. Now I know I can buy a
>> > transition
>> > pack that will upgrade to SBS 2003 R2 but can i get a pack that will
>> > upgrade
>> > to 2003 R2 standard plus does it still retain Exchange do I loose it?
>> > Also
>> > if
>> > I can what are the pit falls?
>> >
>> > Thanks for your time.
>> >
>> > Jason
>>