I have 13 workgrouops in different locations, they must use a class A network range to operate existing software. At each location I have one PC that communicates with my SBS03 server for drop off a data files and Email. They currently aren't connected to the internet although they will be in the near future.

The local workstations (for software reasons are required to be static) are using the same range of IP addresses as my SBS server. With SBS4.5 they were able to communicate and get email using the dial-up adpter just fine. Now windows 98 PC can dial and have access but the windows 2000 PC's connect to the server but don't get any DHCP info so they don't communicate properly.

I dissabled the local network adapter and the windows 2000 PC was then able to access email. But I need the network connection to remain established for the software to work across the local network. How can I get this connection to work with the Windows 2000 machines? I have also tried to force a connection to the domain, but it won't allow the connection , stating that it can not be found

Thoughts and Ideas anyone

Re: 2 networks connecting through dial up...... by Cris

Cris
Tue Dec 23 12:58:04 CST 2003

First all I'm glad I'm not supporting this night mare

When win2000 machines first boot up, they have a check box at the bottom,
Connect using dialup networking.

Check this box and assign a static IP in the appropriate range to the TCP/IP
stack along with DNS and other for the dialup adapter.

Is there something actually plugged into the network adapter on the win2k
machine? Are they just connecting to a workgroup there??

Could your workgroups be named the same as the SBS domain...not sure if that
would cause more harm than good



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"Andy in MA" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C0D187F7-9E3C-44E6-89C8-D4AB10FBAA18@microsoft.com...
> I have 13 workgrouops in different locations, they must use a class A
network range to operate existing software. At each location I have one PC
that communicates with my SBS03 server for drop off a data files and Email.
They currently aren't connected to the internet although they will be in the
near future.
>
> The local workstations (for software reasons are required to be static)
are using the same range of IP addresses as my SBS server. With SBS4.5 they
were able to communicate and get email using the dial-up adpter just fine.
Now windows 98 PC can dial and have access but the windows 2000 PC's connect
to the server but don't get any DHCP info so they don't communicate
properly.
>
> I dissabled the local network adapter and the windows 2000 PC was then
able to access email. But I need the network connection to remain
established for the software to work across the local network. How can I
get this connection to work with the Windows 2000 machines? I have also
tried to force a connection to the domain, but it won't allow the connection
, stating that it can not be found.
>
> Thoughts and Ideas anyone?
>



Re: 2 networks connecting through dial up...... by anonymous

anonymous
Wed Dec 24 08:41:05 CST 2003


The Win2k (static IP 10.0.0.99) machine is plugged into a workgroup network locally through a hub. A little more history is that we are in the hospitality industry using a POS system at the stores that run on Static IP's. We have a NT workstation acting as a server (10.0.0.100) connected to a hub and front of the house NT workstations running with the static ip range 10.0.0.1-10.0.0.7 (can be higher depending upon the number of terminals) The win2k machines needs to remain attached to this network because it runs a service required by the POSDriver system. (gift/credit card software) I am checking with the POS company to see if I can change the workgroup name without affecting too much operationally

I don't need the workstations or Server to have dial up access, but I do need the Win2k machine to be able to dial out to corporate without effecting the service. The dial up adaptor on the win2k machine connects to our sbs03 server with IP address of 10.0.0.1 I tried to assign a IP and get better communication but the problem I am having now has to do with my email access. I get an error message saying that the network connection does exist when I do a check name on the while connected

I feel this is a IP conflict but outside of changing the IP of either my SBS server or the local workstations I am unsure as to how I can resolve this issue. any help is appreciated

Any ideas is appreciated

And

----- Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP) wrote: ----

First all I'm glad I'm not supporting this night mar

When win2000 machines first boot up, they have a check box at the bottom
Connect using dialup networking

Check this box and assign a static IP in the appropriate range to the TCP/I
stack along with DNS and other for the dialup adapter

Is there something actually plugged into the network adapter on the win2
machine? Are they just connecting to a workgroup there?

Could your workgroups be named the same as the SBS domain...not sure if tha
would cause more harm than goo



--
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP
------------------------
Please do not directly to me but rather reply to the newsgroup so that al
may benefit from the information
"Andy in MA" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messag
news:C0D187F7-9E3C-44E6-89C8-D4AB10FBAA18@microsoft.com..
> I have 13 workgrouops in different locations, they must use a class
network range to operate existing software. At each location I have one P
that communicates with my SBS03 server for drop off a data files and Email
They currently aren't connected to the internet although they will be in th
near future
>> The local workstations (for software reasons are required to be static
are using the same range of IP addresses as my SBS server. With SBS4.5 the
were able to communicate and get email using the dial-up adpter just fine
Now windows 98 PC can dial and have access but the windows 2000 PC's connec
to the server but don't get any DHCP info so they don't communicat
properly
>> I dissabled the local network adapter and the windows 2000 PC was the
able to access email. But I need the network connection to remai
established for the software to work across the local network. How can
get this connection to work with the Windows 2000 machines? I have als
tried to force a connection to the domain, but it won't allow the connectio
, stating that it can not be found
>> Thoughts and Ideas anyone
>

Re: 2 networks connecting through dial up...... by Cris

Cris
Wed Dec 24 16:41:05 CST 2003

Is your SBS server also using the 10.0.0.X IP range??

--
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"Andy in MA" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> The Win2k (static IP 10.0.0.99) machine is plugged into a workgroup
network locally through a hub. A little more history is that we are in the
hospitality industry using a POS system at the stores that run on Static
IP's. We have a NT workstation acting as a server (10.0.0.100) connected to
a hub and front of the house NT workstations running with the static ip
range 10.0.0.1-10.0.0.7 (can be higher depending upon the number of
terminals) The win2k machines needs to remain attached to this network
because it runs a service required by the POSDriver system. (gift/credit
card software) I am checking with the POS company to see if I can change
the workgroup name without affecting too much operationally.
>
> I don't need the workstations or Server to have dial up access, but I
do need the Win2k machine to be able to dial out to corporate without
effecting the service. The dial up adaptor on the win2k machine connects to
our sbs03 server with IP address of 10.0.0.1 I tried to assign a IP and get
better communication but the problem I am having now has to do with my email
access. I get an error message saying that the network connection does
exist when I do a check name on the while connected.
>
> I feel this is a IP conflict but outside of changing the IP of either my
SBS server or the local workstations I am unsure as to how I can resolve
this issue. any help is appreciated.
>
> Any ideas is appreciated.
>
> Andy
>
> ----- Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP) wrote: -----
>
> First all I'm glad I'm not supporting this night mare
>
> When win2000 machines first boot up, they have a check box at the
bottom,
> Connect using dialup networking.
>
> Check this box and assign a static IP in the appropriate range to the
TCP/IP
> stack along with DNS and other for the dialup adapter.
>
> Is there something actually plugged into the network adapter on the
win2k
> machine? Are they just connecting to a workgroup there??
>
> Could your workgroups be named the same as the SBS domain...not sure
if that
> would cause more harm than good
>
>
>
> --
> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
> -------------------------
> Please do not directly to me but rather reply to the newsgroup so
that all
> may benefit from the information.
> "Andy in MA" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C0D187F7-9E3C-44E6-89C8-D4AB10FBAA18@microsoft.com...
> > I have 13 workgrouops in different locations, they must use a class
A
> network range to operate existing software. At each location I have
one PC
> that communicates with my SBS03 server for drop off a data files and
Email.
> They currently aren't connected to the internet although they will be
in the
> near future.
> >> The local workstations (for software reasons are required to be
static)
> are using the same range of IP addresses as my SBS server. With
SBS4.5 they
> were able to communicate and get email using the dial-up adpter just
fine.
> Now windows 98 PC can dial and have access but the windows 2000 PC's
connect
> to the server but don't get any DHCP info so they don't communicate
> properly.
> >> I dissabled the local network adapter and the windows 2000 PC was
then
> able to access email. But I need the network connection to remain
> established for the software to work across the local network. How
can I
> get this connection to work with the Windows 2000 machines? I have
also
> tried to force a connection to the domain, but it won't allow the
connection
> , stating that it can not be found.
> >> Thoughts and Ideas anyone?
> >



Re: 2 networks connecting through dial up...... by anonymous

anonymous
Fri Dec 26 11:21:10 CST 2003

Yes. I think that I will have to change this. But as a test I am going to one location and see if that makes a difference at that location before I screw everyone in the company up. I will let you know what I find out. If you know of anything else I can try let me know.