I have searched this site and smallbizserver.net - and used a few MS KB
articles to resolve what appears to be a relay problem on my server. I
recently set up OWA using SSL. All of a sudden I'm getting 100 non
deliverable messages each day. I have followed the steps to turn off
relaying on the server and yet I can still see IPs pop up in the Current
Sessions section of the Default SMTP Virtual Server. I have turne on max
logging and I don't see anyone logging in. I can't figure out how to stop
this. I stopped the Default SMTP Virtual Server until I can figure it out -
will this prevent relaying?

DJ




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Re: help with relay problems by Jim

Jim
Sat Aug 14 11:36:23 CDT 2004

Have you gone to Wayne's website www.sbsfaq.com ? He had an article
there that told you how he set up his server. I clear the checkmark
for alllow all authenticated users to relay. You would only need this
if you expect your outside users to treat your Exchange server like
you were an isp.

Make sure every user has a complex password of at least 8 characters.
You can do this from the group policy. Rename the guest account and
make sure it is disabled. Some even rename the administrator account
but I have not. Make sure the administrator password has been changed.
Make the users all change their passwords.

Are you actualy seeing stuff in the badmail folder?

"SpenserJ" <spenserj87@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I have searched this site and smallbizserver.net - and used a few MS KB
>articles to resolve what appears to be a relay problem on my server. I
>recently set up OWA using SSL. All of a sudden I'm getting 100 non
>deliverable messages each day. I have followed the steps to turn off
>relaying on the server and yet I can still see IPs pop up in the Current
>Sessions section of the Default SMTP Virtual Server. I have turne on max
>logging and I don't see anyone logging in. I can't figure out how to stop
>this. I stopped the Default SMTP Virtual Server until I can figure it out -
>will this prevent relaying?
>
>DJ
>
>
>
>
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Re: help with relay problems by Marina

Marina
Sat Aug 14 11:44:11 CDT 2004

Hi Jim,

Nice try, but Wayne is still working on his site ;-)

--
Regards,

Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP

"Jim Behning" <jimbehningmvp@atl.mindspring.com> schreef in bericht
news:7kfsh0d65h7kont0920m4n3abpn783bsv2@4ax.com...
> Have you gone to Wayne's website www.sbsfaq.com ? He had an article
> there that told you how he set up his server. I clear the checkmark
> for alllow all authenticated users to relay. You would only need this
> if you expect your outside users to treat your Exchange server like
> you were an isp.
>
> Make sure every user has a complex password of at least 8 characters.
> You can do this from the group policy. Rename the guest account and
> make sure it is disabled. Some even rename the administrator account
> but I have not. Make sure the administrator password has been changed.
> Make the users all change their passwords.
>
> Are you actualy seeing stuff in the badmail folder?
>
> "SpenserJ" <spenserj87@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I have searched this site and smallbizserver.net - and used a few MS KB
> >articles to resolve what appears to be a relay problem on my server. I
> >recently set up OWA using SSL. All of a sudden I'm getting 100 non
> >deliverable messages each day. I have followed the steps to turn off
> >relaying on the server and yet I can still see IPs pop up in the Current
> >Sessions section of the Default SMTP Virtual Server. I have turne on max
> >logging and I don't see anyone logging in. I can't figure out how to
stop
> >this. I stopped the Default SMTP Virtual Server until I can figure it
out -
> >will this prevent relaying?
> >
> >DJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
> Jim B. SBS MVP
> remove the mvp to send email



Re: help with relay problems by SpenserJ

SpenserJ
Sat Aug 14 12:53:26 CDT 2004

Yes, I keep deleting files from the badmail folder. I have a router and two
NICs and the only open ports on the router are 47, 25, 443, 1723. In the
Default SMTP Virtual Server I see a bunch of "spammers" in the queue and
I'll see IPs pop up in the Current Sessions. I have all guest and other
user accounts disabled. I can't see a login entry that tells me who could
be authenticating a username and password - my system only has 5 user
accounts. The Adminsitrator account is renamed. I really don't understand
how they are getting in.

DJ
"Jim Behning" <jimbehningmvp@atl.mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:7kfsh0d65h7kont0920m4n3abpn783bsv2@4ax.com...
> Have you gone to Wayne's website www.sbsfaq.com ? He had an article
> there that told you how he set up his server. I clear the checkmark
> for alllow all authenticated users to relay. You would only need this
> if you expect your outside users to treat your Exchange server like
> you were an isp.
>
> Make sure every user has a complex password of at least 8 characters.
> You can do this from the group policy. Rename the guest account and
> make sure it is disabled. Some even rename the administrator account
> but I have not. Make sure the administrator password has been changed.
> Make the users all change their passwords.
>
> Are you actualy seeing stuff in the badmail folder?
>
> "SpenserJ" <spenserj87@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>I have searched this site and smallbizserver.net - and used a few MS KB
>>articles to resolve what appears to be a relay problem on my server. I
>>recently set up OWA using SSL. All of a sudden I'm getting 100 non
>>deliverable messages each day. I have followed the steps to turn off
>>relaying on the server and yet I can still see IPs pop up in the Current
>>Sessions section of the Default SMTP Virtual Server. I have turne on max
>>logging and I don't see anyone logging in. I can't figure out how to stop
>>this. I stopped the Default SMTP Virtual Server until I can figure it
>>out -
>>will this prevent relaying?
>>
>>DJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Jim B. SBS MVP
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Re: help with relay problems by SpenserJ

SpenserJ
Sat Aug 14 14:21:39 CDT 2004

One more thing to add. If I look in the Mailbox Store under Logons I see a
bunch of logins with the user name SMTP (SERVER01--{7E320B21-BD22-.....})
and the Windows 2000 Account shows NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM. Is this anything
related?


"SpenserJ" <spenserj87@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:411e5195$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...
> Yes, I keep deleting files from the badmail folder. I have a router and
> two NICs and the only open ports on the router are 47, 25, 443, 1723. In
> the Default SMTP Virtual Server I see a bunch of "spammers" in the queue
> and I'll see IPs pop up in the Current Sessions. I have all guest and
> other user accounts disabled. I can't see a login entry that tells me who
> could be authenticating a username and password - my system only has 5
> user accounts. The Adminsitrator account is renamed. I really don't
> understand how they are getting in.
>
> DJ
> "Jim Behning" <jimbehningmvp@atl.mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:7kfsh0d65h7kont0920m4n3abpn783bsv2@4ax.com...
>> Have you gone to Wayne's website www.sbsfaq.com ? He had an article
>> there that told you how he set up his server. I clear the checkmark
>> for alllow all authenticated users to relay. You would only need this
>> if you expect your outside users to treat your Exchange server like
>> you were an isp.
>>
>> Make sure every user has a complex password of at least 8 characters.
>> You can do this from the group policy. Rename the guest account and
>> make sure it is disabled. Some even rename the administrator account
>> but I have not. Make sure the administrator password has been changed.
>> Make the users all change their passwords.
>>
>> Are you actualy seeing stuff in the badmail folder?
>>
>> "SpenserJ" <spenserj87@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I have searched this site and smallbizserver.net - and used a few MS KB
>>>articles to resolve what appears to be a relay problem on my server. I
>>>recently set up OWA using SSL. All of a sudden I'm getting 100 non
>>>deliverable messages each day. I have followed the steps to turn off
>>>relaying on the server and yet I can still see IPs pop up in the Current
>>>Sessions section of the Default SMTP Virtual Server. I have turne on max
>>>logging and I don't see anyone logging in. I can't figure out how to
>>>stop
>>>this. I stopped the Default SMTP Virtual Server until I can figure it
>>>out -
>>>will this prevent relaying?
>>>
>>>DJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> Jim B. SBS MVP
>> remove the mvp to send email
>
>
>
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Re: help with relay problems by Jim

Jim
Sat Aug 14 18:22:01 CDT 2004

I cannot remember all the clicks Wayne mentioned. I think you make
sure that the only ips listed in the server are the internal and
external. I think you do not have to list the external because ISA
forwards stuff to the internal ip. Test to confirm. When I did a
google search I see that some have mentioned the only ip that needs to
be listed is the internal ip. If you are on a spammer list you are
going to keep seeing that crud.

I made a batch file that deletes all those bad mail files every day.
One less thing to remember to do.

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=324958 for queue cleanup.

"SpenserJ" <spenserj87@yahoo.com> wrote:

>One more thing to add. If I look in the Mailbox Store under Logons I see a
>bunch of logins with the user name SMTP (SERVER01--{7E320B21-BD22-.....})
>and the Windows 2000 Account shows NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM. Is this anything
>related?
>
>
>"SpenserJ" <spenserj87@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:411e5195$1_3@corp.newsgroups.com...
>> Yes, I keep deleting files from the badmail folder. I have a router and
>> two NICs and the only open ports on the router are 47, 25, 443, 1723. In
>> the Default SMTP Virtual Server I see a bunch of "spammers" in the queue
>> and I'll see IPs pop up in the Current Sessions. I have all guest and
>> other user accounts disabled. I can't see a login entry that tells me who
>> could be authenticating a username and password - my system only has 5
>> user accounts. The Adminsitrator account is renamed. I really don't
>> understand how they are getting in.
>>
>> DJ
>> "Jim Behning" <jimbehningmvp@atl.mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:7kfsh0d65h7kont0920m4n3abpn783bsv2@4ax.com...
>>> Have you gone to Wayne's website www.sbsfaq.com ? He had an article
>>> there that told you how he set up his server. I clear the checkmark
>>> for alllow all authenticated users to relay. You would only need this
>>> if you expect your outside users to treat your Exchange server like
>>> you were an isp.
>>>
>>> Make sure every user has a complex password of at least 8 characters.
>>> You can do this from the group policy. Rename the guest account and
>>> make sure it is disabled. Some even rename the administrator account
>>> but I have not. Make sure the administrator password has been changed.
>>> Make the users all change their passwords.
>>>
>>> Are you actualy seeing stuff in the badmail folder?
>>>
>>> "SpenserJ" <spenserj87@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have searched this site and smallbizserver.net - and used a few MS KB
>>>>articles to resolve what appears to be a relay problem on my server. I
>>>>recently set up OWA using SSL. All of a sudden I'm getting 100 non
>>>>deliverable messages each day. I have followed the steps to turn off
>>>>relaying on the server and yet I can still see IPs pop up in the Current
>>>>Sessions section of the Default SMTP Virtual Server. I have turne on max
>>>>logging and I don't see anyone logging in. I can't figure out how to
>>>>stop
>>>>this. I stopped the Default SMTP Virtual Server until I can figure it
>>>>out -
>>>>will this prevent relaying?
>>>>
>>>>DJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Jim B. SBS MVP
>>> remove the mvp to send email
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: help with relay problems by Lanwench

Lanwench
Sun Aug 15 00:39:17 CDT 2004

See http://www.vamsoft.com/orf/authattack.asp and
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/MF005.html

...but note that just because you're getting undeliverable messages, it
doesn't mean you're being used as a spam relay. Spammers and viruses spoof
senders all the time, and the unlucky spoofed domain gets the NDRs. Also, a
lot of viruses come in as fake NDRs.

SpenserJ wrote:
> I have searched this site and smallbizserver.net - and used a few MS
> KB articles to resolve what appears to be a relay problem on my
> server. I recently set up OWA using SSL. All of a sudden I'm
> getting 100 non deliverable messages each day. I have followed the
> steps to turn off relaying on the server and yet I can still see IPs
> pop up in the Current Sessions section of the Default SMTP Virtual
> Server. I have turne on max logging and I don't see anyone logging
> in. I can't figure out how to stop this. I stopped the Default SMTP
> Virtual Server until I can figure it out - will this prevent relaying?
>
> DJ
>
>
>
>
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