If you haven't got it...go get it

http://www.shavlik.com/pHFNetChkLT.aspx

Gizmo
Mon Jul 21 18:40:56 CDT 2003

p.s..the lt version is FREEEEEEEEE....


"Gizmo :-)" <dontwant@anymorespam.com> wrote in message
news:%23wYrP79TDHA.2228@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> http://www.shavlik.com/pHFNetChkLT.aspx
>
>
>

Dave
Mon Jul 21 18:57:11 CDT 2003

One word of caution. Shavlik is currently of the position that HFNetChkLT
does not support deploying patches to the Small Business Server. If you
have any problems, they will not assist.

This is based on personal experience and you can find my posts in their
newsgroup.

Dave Benet
Melbourne, Australia

"Gizmo :-)" <dontwant@anymorespam.com> wrote in message
news:%23wYrP79TDHA.2228@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> http://www.shavlik.com/pHFNetChkLT.aspx
>
>
>

Grey
Mon Jul 21 18:59:21 CDT 2003

Great !! Thanks for the link.

What I want to throw out is, just what are we going to do? How do we end
users, VAP's VAR,s deal with hacks/spam?

How do we walk into a client and say, you can work normally? Type letters,
do spreadsheets, read email, work from home/afar and you data be safe?

--
Grey
SBS ROCKS MVP


www.smallbizserver.com


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> http://www.shavlik.com/pHFNetChkLT.aspx
>
>
>


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Susan
Mon Jul 21 19:14:04 CDT 2003

Spam ... two choices.... blacklists or whitelists ..... Blacklists Vamsoft is
very good [~great even]

While lists matador or ChoiceMail where you build a white list of those people
you DO want email from and then do a challenge response from the rest.

Hacks.... that's IMHO easy. [Easier than the spam anyway].... Keep 80 closed,
make usernames/passwords alphanumeric, longer than 8 characters and change
them...minimum of 90 days... probably 42 days is best. Most of the time the
hacks are automated systems that got infected and are pinging out...so keep A/V
up to date, strip off those attachments that are the "nasty list" ...which in
my office includes .zip files these days..... keep up to date on patching.....
and we SBSers are honestly... many times better off than the large firms [no
worse at any rate....]




"Grey Lancaster [SBS ROCKS MVP]" wrote:

> Great !! Thanks for the link.
>
> What I want to throw out is, just what are we going to do? How do we end
> users, VAP's VAR,s deal with hacks/spam?
>
> How do we walk into a client and say, you can work normally? Type letters,
> do spreadsheets, read email, work from home/afar and you data be safe?
>
> --
> Grey
> SBS ROCKS MVP
>
> www.smallbizserver.com
>
> "Gizmo :-)" <dontwant@anymorespam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23wYrP79TDHA.2228@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > http://www.shavlik.com/pHFNetChkLT.aspx
> >
> >
> >
>
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"Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
to use it properly and effectively."
~Rain Forest Puppy
http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt

Susan
Mon Jul 21 19:21:26 CDT 2003

Poppycock. Granted the think isn't 100% consistent but then again MBSA and WU
isn't either.

Signed... registered owner of HFNETCHKPro

Dave Benet wrote:

> One word of caution. Shavlik is currently of the position that HFNetChkLT
> does not support deploying patches to the Small Business Server. If you
> have any problems, they will not assist.
>
> This is based on personal experience and you can find my posts in their
> newsgroup.
>
> Dave Benet
> Melbourne, Australia
>
> "Gizmo :-)" <dontwant@anymorespam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23wYrP79TDHA.2228@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > http://www.shavlik.com/pHFNetChkLT.aspx
> >
> >
> >

--
"Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
to use it properly and effectively."
~Rain Forest Puppy
http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt

Susan
Mon Jul 21 19:44:21 CDT 2003

Workstation or server?
XP or 2k pro?

And I'll take up your cause as I am a paying customer :-)

Dave Benet wrote:

> Susan,
>
> I've been having the same problem with three separate SBS installations
> where patches will not install because of
> "Patch failed because there was no file to download".
>
> I get e-mail replys from their support team stating that they are working on
> SBS support. If it works currently then it is totally by accident. I just
> posted the other day in their NG and Eric stated that "I'll see if I can get
> it bumped up higher in the priority list". Not exactly a statement of full
> support. I've tried the argument that SBS is just Exchange, ISA and
> possibly SQL on a DC, but they will not respond to my problem because the
> error is occuring on an upsupported platform.
>
> The majority of my posts trying to get an answer to this issue in their NG
> go unanswered. It is very frustrating, but you can't apply too much
> pressure when it is a free product.
>
> They have had repeated problems with international users, specifically with
> date formats causing problems with scanning for patches. Whether being a
> non-US english user has anything to do with my particular issue is unknown.
>
> I've given up on using the product for the SBS server itself for now. It
> works fine for patching workstations, both W2K and XP.
>
> Dave Benet
> Melbourne, Australia
>
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> wrote in message news:3F1C8386.A9FD548B@pacbell.net...
> > Poppycock. Granted the think isn't 100% consistent but then again MBSA
> and WU
> > isn't either.
> >
> > Signed... registered owner of HFNETCHKPro
> >
> > Dave Benet wrote:
> >
> > > One word of caution. Shavlik is currently of the position that
> HFNetChkLT
> > > does not support deploying patches to the Small Business Server. If you
> > > have any problems, they will not assist.
> > >
> > > This is based on personal experience and you can find my posts in their
> > > newsgroup.
> > >
> > > Dave Benet
> > > Melbourne, Australia
> > >
> > > "Gizmo :-)" <dontwant@anymorespam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23wYrP79TDHA.2228@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > http://www.shavlik.com/pHFNetChkLT.aspx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
> > not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
> > not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
> > patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
> > responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
> > to use it properly and effectively."
> > ~Rain Forest Puppy
> > http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
> >
> >

--
"Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
to use it properly and effectively."
~Rain Forest Puppy
http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt

Susan
Mon Jul 21 19:50:05 CDT 2003

Subject:
SBS 2000
Date:
Mon, 21 Jul 2003 19:06:23 -0500
From:
"Eric Schultze [Shavlik]" <eric@shavlik.com>
Newsgroups:
shavlik.hfnetchkpro, shavlik.hfnetchklt
References:
1 , 2




I've been pushing patches to an SBS 2000 Gold machine today.

(During the scan, it will report 'Small Business Server SP1'. The SP
reference is the SP of the actual OS, not the SP specific to the collection
known as SBS. I understand that SBS SP1 is really Windows 2000 Server SP3 -
so this will scan and reports as Small Business Server SP3.)

Patch icons will now appear next to the SBS product entries and can now be
deployed (updated patchdetails4.xml file released earlier today.) OS
related patches will not apply unless the Exchange Service is stopped.
We've written code to enable you to stop Exchange server during a deployment
(and restart everything that we stopped) - this code will be available in a
future version. Other patches, such as MDAC and WMP can be deployed without
stopping the Exchange service.

The ISA Server appears in my scan results - not sure what Mr Maunder was
experiencing, but we can review log files to see (please send them to me).



"Dave Benet" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3f1afeef$1@news.shavlik.com...
> Eric,
>
> Is there any progress on SBS2000 support? The last communication I had
with
> support said that they were working on this.
>
> Dave Benet
> Melbourne, Australia
>
> "Eric Schultze [Shavlik]" <eric@shavlik.com> wrote in message
> news:3f1606fa$1@news.shavlik.com...
> > New beta release of HFNetChkPro available: 4.0.76.5. It addresses the
> issue
> > posted by Pascal Ouellet, specifically where deployment of one or more
> > patches to a group of machines, where one of the machines is no longer
> > online - the deployment would fail to the other machines. This has been
> > addressed in 4.0.76.5. The beta also enhances AD browsing where an OU
> > exists without a canonical name.
> >
> > Beta also adds support for identifying the following products:
> > Exchange Server 2003
> > SNA Server 4.0
> > Host Integration Server 2000
> > Host Integration Server 2004
> > Content Management Server 2001
> > Content management Client 2001
> >
> > You may download the beta here:
> > http://hfnetchk.shavlik.com/downloads/hf40765beta.zip
> > it can be installed on top of your existing installation.
> >
> > The final release will install on top of this beta.
> >
> > The ZIP file inlcudes two files - the HF installation package and an
> updated
> > hfnetchk4pro.exe engine. After performing the 4.0.76.5 install, copy
the
> > hfnetchk4pro.exe file into the appropriate directory and replace the
> > existing file. This engine includes an update to indentify installed
> > patches where only a registry key exists in the XML file (and that key
is
> on
> > your machine) - 03-025 and 03-028 are examples of two patches where only
a
> > registry key exists.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Eric Schultze
> > Director of Product Research and Development
> > Shavlik Technologies LLC
> > http://hfnetchk.shavlik.com
> >
> >
>
>




Dave Benet wrote:

> Susan,
>
> I've been having the same problem with three separate SBS installations
> where patches will not install because of
> "Patch failed because there was no file to download".
>
> I get e-mail replys from their support team stating that they are working on
> SBS support. If it works currently then it is totally by accident. I just
> posted the other day in their NG and Eric stated that "I'll see if I can get
> it bumped up higher in the priority list". Not exactly a statement of full
> support. I've tried the argument that SBS is just Exchange, ISA and
> possibly SQL on a DC, but they will not respond to my problem because the
> error is occuring on an upsupported platform.
>
> The majority of my posts trying to get an answer to this issue in their NG
> go unanswered. It is very frustrating, but you can't apply too much
> pressure when it is a free product.
>
> They have had repeated problems with international users, specifically with
> date formats causing problems with scanning for patches. Whether being a
> non-US english user has anything to do with my particular issue is unknown.
>
> I've given up on using the product for the SBS server itself for now. It
> works fine for patching workstations, both W2K and XP.
>
> Dave Benet
> Melbourne, Australia
>
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> wrote in message news:3F1C8386.A9FD548B@pacbell.net...
> > Poppycock. Granted the think isn't 100% consistent but then again MBSA
> and WU
> > isn't either.
> >
> > Signed... registered owner of HFNETCHKPro
> >
> > Dave Benet wrote:
> >
> > > One word of caution. Shavlik is currently of the position that
> HFNetChkLT
> > > does not support deploying patches to the Small Business Server. If you
> > > have any problems, they will not assist.
> > >
> > > This is based on personal experience and you can find my posts in their
> > > newsgroup.
> > >
> > > Dave Benet
> > > Melbourne, Australia
> > >
> > > "Gizmo :-)" <dontwant@anymorespam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23wYrP79TDHA.2228@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > http://www.shavlik.com/pHFNetChkLT.aspx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
> > not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
> > not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
> > patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
> > responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
> > to use it properly and effectively."
> > ~Rain Forest Puppy
> > http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
> >
> >

--
"Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
to use it properly and effectively."
~Rain Forest Puppy
http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt

Susan
Mon Jul 21 20:01:40 CDT 2003

When you post...ping Eric as well.
And email the log files to me.

Quite honestly the whole patching thing is still a mess. I still use a
combination of WU and Shavlik to do what I need to do. Don't trust either one
of them as they still AFAIK look to different XML files.

For good measure run the MBSA as well....two of the three should match...there
might be one of the three that doesn't. When all three match.... there's
normally a full moon or something like that ;-)

Dave Benet wrote:

> The problem is deploying patches to the SBS Server. Here is the majority of
> my last attempt in the Shavlik NG to get their attention:
>
> snip....
> I have posted in the NG a few times now regarding problems deploying patches
> to SBS2000 servers.
>
> "Could not deploy because there is not a patch file to download"
>
> This does not have anything to do with shutting down Exchange Services.
> Regardless of services running or not, the patches never are scheduled for
> deployment. Is this perhaps a problem with the Shavlik patch files.
>
> When I look at the "Patch Information" window and check the list for
> SBS2000, there are a patches that are missing versus what is shown for W2K.
> In particular SBS2000 SP3 has a total of 17 patches listed for it. Whilst
> Windows 2000 Server SP3 shows 22 patches.
>
> Is it possible that the process for updating the XML file is overlooking
> adding patches to SBS2000 that are being flagged for Windows 2000 Server?
>
> This problem is affecting at least three SBS2000 servers running SBS-SP1
> (W2K SP3, Ex2kSP3, ISA Sp1) plus
> most current patches. Running with English Australia regional settings.
> When attempting to resolve this through support@shavlik, I received a rather
> uninformative response from tech support saying "
> "As for designing HFNetChkPro to interact nicely with SBS 2000, our
> developers are attempting to address that issue."
> end snip...
>
> Let me know if you need any further info. I'll be happy to supply the logs
> and patch database if required.
>
> Thanks for your help. The product has great promise, but when you get left
> high and dry on SBS like this, it is very frustrating.
>
> Dave Benet
> Melbourne, Australia
>
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> wrote in message news:3F1C88E5.8CEC5E76@pacbell.net...
> > Workstation or server?
> > XP or 2k pro?
> >
> > And I'll take up your cause as I am a paying customer :-)
> >

--
"Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
to use it properly and effectively."
~Rain Forest Puppy
http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt

Dave
Mon Jul 21 20:48:17 CDT 2003

Based on the latest posts in the Shavlik NG, this is what I would like to
do:

1. I need to deploy 03-026 and a few others tonight. I will see if the
updated XML file helps the situation in general.
2. Report back with a hopeful resolution to my problem or contact you via
e-mail to enlist your very kind assistance.

Regards,
Dave Benet
Melbourne, Australia

"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
wrote in message news:3F1C8CF4.59DF1F7B@pacbell.net...
> When you post...ping Eric as well.
> And email the log files to me.
>
> Quite honestly the whole patching thing is still a mess. I still use a
> combination of WU and Shavlik to do what I need to do. Don't trust either
one
> of them as they still AFAIK look to different XML files.
>
> For good measure run the MBSA as well....two of the three should
match...there
> might be one of the three that doesn't. When all three match.... there's
> normally a full moon or something like that ;-)
>
> Dave Benet wrote:
>
> > The problem is deploying patches to the SBS Server. Here is the
majority of
> > my last attempt in the Shavlik NG to get their attention:
> >
> > snip....
> > I have posted in the NG a few times now regarding problems deploying
patches
> > to SBS2000 servers.
> >
> > "Could not deploy because there is not a patch file to download"
> >
> > This does not have anything to do with shutting down Exchange Services.
> > Regardless of services running or not, the patches never are scheduled
for
> > deployment. Is this perhaps a problem with the Shavlik patch files.
> >
> > When I look at the "Patch Information" window and check the list for
> > SBS2000, there are a patches that are missing versus what is shown for
W2K.
> > In particular SBS2000 SP3 has a total of 17 patches listed for it.
Whilst
> > Windows 2000 Server SP3 shows 22 patches.
> >
> > Is it possible that the process for updating the XML file is overlooking
> > adding patches to SBS2000 that are being flagged for Windows 2000
Server?
> >
> > This problem is affecting at least three SBS2000 servers running
SBS-SP1
> > (W2K SP3, Ex2kSP3, ISA Sp1) plus
> > most current patches. Running with English Australia regional settings.
> > When attempting to resolve this through support@shavlik, I received a
rather
> > uninformative response from tech support saying "
> > "As for designing HFNetChkPro to interact nicely with SBS 2000, our
> > developers are attempting to address that issue."
> > end snip...
> >
> > Let me know if you need any further info. I'll be happy to supply the
logs
> > and patch database if required.
> >
> > Thanks for your help. The product has great promise, but when you get
left
> > high and dry on SBS like this, it is very frustrating.
> >
> > Dave Benet
> > Melbourne, Australia
> >
> > "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> > wrote in message news:3F1C88E5.8CEC5E76@pacbell.net...
> > > Workstation or server?
> > > XP or 2k pro?
> > >
> > > And I'll take up your cause as I am a paying customer :-)
> > >
>
> --
> "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
> not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
> not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
> patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
> responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
> to use it properly and effectively."
> ~Rain Forest Puppy
> http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
>
>

Susan
Mon Jul 21 20:53:46 CDT 2003

Make sure you are on the latest "engine" as well.

Dave Benet wrote:

> Based on the latest posts in the Shavlik NG, this is what I would like to
> do:
>
> 1. I need to deploy 03-026 and a few others tonight. I will see if the
> updated XML file helps the situation in general.
> 2. Report back with a hopeful resolution to my problem or contact you via
> e-mail to enlist your very kind assistance.
>
> Regards,
> Dave Benet
> Melbourne, Australia
>
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> wrote in message news:3F1C8CF4.59DF1F7B@pacbell.net...
> > When you post...ping Eric as well.
> > And email the log files to me.
> >
> > Quite honestly the whole patching thing is still a mess. I still use a
> > combination of WU and Shavlik to do what I need to do. Don't trust either
> one
> > of them as they still AFAIK look to different XML files.
> >
> > For good measure run the MBSA as well....two of the three should
> match...there
> > might be one of the three that doesn't. When all three match.... there's
> > normally a full moon or something like that ;-)
> >
> > Dave Benet wrote:
> >
> > > The problem is deploying patches to the SBS Server. Here is the
> majority of
> > > my last attempt in the Shavlik NG to get their attention:
> > >
> > > snip....
> > > I have posted in the NG a few times now regarding problems deploying
> patches
> > > to SBS2000 servers.
> > >
> > > "Could not deploy because there is not a patch file to download"
> > >
> > > This does not have anything to do with shutting down Exchange Services.
> > > Regardless of services running or not, the patches never are scheduled
> for
> > > deployment. Is this perhaps a problem with the Shavlik patch files.
> > >
> > > When I look at the "Patch Information" window and check the list for
> > > SBS2000, there are a patches that are missing versus what is shown for
> W2K.
> > > In particular SBS2000 SP3 has a total of 17 patches listed for it.
> Whilst
> > > Windows 2000 Server SP3 shows 22 patches.
> > >
> > > Is it possible that the process for updating the XML file is overlooking
> > > adding patches to SBS2000 that are being flagged for Windows 2000
> Server?
> > >
> > > This problem is affecting at least three SBS2000 servers running
> SBS-SP1
> > > (W2K SP3, Ex2kSP3, ISA Sp1) plus
> > > most current patches. Running with English Australia regional settings.
> > > When attempting to resolve this through support@shavlik, I received a
> rather
> > > uninformative response from tech support saying "
> > > "As for designing HFNetChkPro to interact nicely with SBS 2000, our
> > > developers are attempting to address that issue."
> > > end snip...
> > >
> > > Let me know if you need any further info. I'll be happy to supply the
> logs
> > > and patch database if required.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help. The product has great promise, but when you get
> left
> > > high and dry on SBS like this, it is very frustrating.
> > >
> > > Dave Benet
> > > Melbourne, Australia
> > >
> > > "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> > > wrote in message news:3F1C88E5.8CEC5E76@pacbell.net...
> > > > Workstation or server?
> > > > XP or 2k pro?
> > > >
> > > > And I'll take up your cause as I am a paying customer :-)
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
> > not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
> > not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
> > patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
> > responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
> > to use it properly and effectively."
> > ~Rain Forest Puppy
> > http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
> >
> >

--
"Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
to use it properly and effectively."
~Rain Forest Puppy
http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt

David
Tue Jul 22 07:00:05 CDT 2003

Susan,

I'm pleased to report that using HFNetChk Lt V4.0.76.4 that I finally was
able to deploy patches to one of the SBS servers that have not cooperated up
until now!

Thanks for your offer of assistance and for pointing out the new post from
Eric in response to my post. Since it had a different subject I overlooked
it.

Regards,
Dave Benet
Melbourne, Australia

"Dave Benet" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23f9xiN$TDHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Based on the latest posts in the Shavlik NG, this is what I would like to
> do:
>
> 1. I need to deploy 03-026 and a few others tonight. I will see if the
> updated XML file helps the situation in general.
> 2. Report back with a hopeful resolution to my problem or contact you via
> e-mail to enlist your very kind assistance.
>
> Regards,
> Dave Benet
> Melbourne, Australia
>
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> wrote in message news:3F1C8CF4.59DF1F7B@pacbell.net...
> > When you post...ping Eric as well.
> > And email the log files to me.
> >
> > Quite honestly the whole patching thing is still a mess. I still use a
> > combination of WU and Shavlik to do what I need to do. Don't trust
either
> one
> > of them as they still AFAIK look to different XML files.
> >
> > For good measure run the MBSA as well....two of the three should
> match...there
> > might be one of the three that doesn't. When all three match....
there's
> > normally a full moon or something like that ;-)
> >
> > Dave Benet wrote:
> >
> > > The problem is deploying patches to the SBS Server. Here is the
> majority of
> > > my last attempt in the Shavlik NG to get their attention:
> > >
> > > snip....
> > > I have posted in the NG a few times now regarding problems deploying
> patches
> > > to SBS2000 servers.
> > >
> > > "Could not deploy because there is not a patch file to download"
> > >
> > > This does not have anything to do with shutting down Exchange
Services.
> > > Regardless of services running or not, the patches never are scheduled
> for
> > > deployment. Is this perhaps a problem with the Shavlik patch files.
> > >
> > > When I look at the "Patch Information" window and check the list for
> > > SBS2000, there are a patches that are missing versus what is shown for
> W2K.
> > > In particular SBS2000 SP3 has a total of 17 patches listed for it.
> Whilst
> > > Windows 2000 Server SP3 shows 22 patches.
> > >
> > > Is it possible that the process for updating the XML file is
overlooking
> > > adding patches to SBS2000 that are being flagged for Windows 2000
> Server?
> > >
> > > This problem is affecting at least three SBS2000 servers running
> SBS-SP1
> > > (W2K SP3, Ex2kSP3, ISA Sp1) plus
> > > most current patches. Running with English Australia regional
settings.
> > > When attempting to resolve this through support@shavlik, I received a
> rather
> > > uninformative response from tech support saying "
> > > "As for designing HFNetChkPro to interact nicely with SBS 2000, our
> > > developers are attempting to address that issue."
> > > end snip...
> > >
> > > Let me know if you need any further info. I'll be happy to supply the
> logs
> > > and patch database if required.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help. The product has great promise, but when you
get
> left
> > > high and dry on SBS like this, it is very frustrating.
> > >
> > > Dave Benet
> > > Melbourne, Australia
> > >
> > > "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
<sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> > > wrote in message news:3F1C88E5.8CEC5E76@pacbell.net...
> > > > Workstation or server?
> > > > XP or 2k pro?
> > > >
> > > > And I'll take up your cause as I am a paying customer :-)
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
> > not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
> > not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
> > patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
> > responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
> > to use it properly and effectively."
> > ~Rain Forest Puppy
> > http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
> >
> >
>
>

Gizmo
Tue Jul 22 18:10:39 CDT 2003

Dont forget to visit

microsoft.public.security.hfnetchk

Sorry to interrupt, Susan and Dave... :-)


"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
wrote in message news:3F1C81CC.51076A16@pacbell.net...
> Spam ... two choices.... blacklists or whitelists ..... Blacklists Vamsoft
is
> very good [~great even]
>
> While lists matador or ChoiceMail where you build a white list of those
people
> you DO want email from and then do a challenge response from the rest.
>
> Hacks.... that's IMHO easy. [Easier than the spam anyway].... Keep 80
closed,
> make usernames/passwords alphanumeric, longer than 8 characters and change
> them...minimum of 90 days... probably 42 days is best. Most of the time
the
> hacks are automated systems that got infected and are pinging out...so
keep A/V
> up to date, strip off those attachments that are the "nasty list" ...which
in
> my office includes .zip files these days..... keep up to date on
patching.....
> and we SBSers are honestly... many times better off than the large firms
[no
> worse at any rate....]
>
>
>
>
> "Grey Lancaster [SBS ROCKS MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Great !! Thanks for the link.
> >
> > What I want to throw out is, just what are we going to do? How do we
end
> > users, VAP's VAR,s deal with hacks/spam?
> >
> > How do we walk into a client and say, you can work normally? Type
letters,
> > do spreadsheets, read email, work from home/afar and you data be safe?
> >
> > --
> > Grey
> > SBS ROCKS MVP
> >
> > www.smallbizserver.com
> >
> > "Gizmo :-)" <dontwant@anymorespam.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23wYrP79TDHA.2228@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > http://www.shavlik.com/pHFNetChkLT.aspx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 7/14/2003
>
> --
> "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
> not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
> not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
> patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
> responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
> to use it properly and effectively."
> ~Rain Forest Puppy
> http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
>
>

Susan
Tue Jul 22 23:16:22 CDT 2003

Nope...visit Shavlik's newsgroups...
No Title:
http://news.shavlik.com/items.asp


"Gizmo :-)" wrote:

> Dont forget to visit
>
> microsoft.public.security.hfnetchk
>
> Sorry to interrupt, Susan and Dave... :-)
>
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> wrote in message news:3F1C81CC.51076A16@pacbell.net...
> > Spam ... two choices.... blacklists or whitelists ..... Blacklists Vamsoft
> is
> > very good [~great even]
> >
> > While lists matador or ChoiceMail where you build a white list of those
> people
> > you DO want email from and then do a challenge response from the rest.
> >
> > Hacks.... that's IMHO easy. [Easier than the spam anyway].... Keep 80
> closed,
> > make usernames/passwords alphanumeric, longer than 8 characters and change
> > them...minimum of 90 days... probably 42 days is best. Most of the time
> the
> > hacks are automated systems that got infected and are pinging out...so
> keep A/V
> > up to date, strip off those attachments that are the "nasty list" ...which
> in
> > my office includes .zip files these days..... keep up to date on
> patching.....
> > and we SBSers are honestly... many times better off than the large firms
> [no
> > worse at any rate....]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Grey Lancaster [SBS ROCKS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> > > Great !! Thanks for the link.
> > >
> > > What I want to throw out is, just what are we going to do? How do we
> end
> > > users, VAP's VAR,s deal with hacks/spam?
> > >
> > > How do we walk into a client and say, you can work normally? Type
> letters,
> > > do spreadsheets, read email, work from home/afar and you data be safe?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Grey
> > > SBS ROCKS MVP
> > >
> > > www.smallbizserver.com
> > >
> > > "Gizmo :-)" <dontwant@anymorespam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23wYrP79TDHA.2228@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > http://www.shavlik.com/pHFNetChkLT.aspx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > > Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 7/14/2003
> >
> > --
> > "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
> > not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
> > not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
> > patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
> > responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
> > to use it properly and effectively."
> > ~Rain Forest Puppy
> > http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
> >
> >

--
"Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
to use it properly and effectively."
~Rain Forest Puppy
http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt