As noted here before, I have been trying to deploy an XP box on our SBS2K
network with miserable success. When browsing network drives, the machine
would just hang and hang. Sometimes browsing would be fast, other times the
machine would actually go into the "not responding" mode. So I figure this
new XP box is killing me and my network.

Low and behold, I'm on the server yesterday trying to view some files and
while navigating through directories suddenly I get the hourglass and have
to stand and wait around a minute before my LOCAL drives and directories
appear. What in blazes is going on here?! I'm at a record low as far as
critical errors go in the event logs, all the patches ahve been applied (and
I'm starting to suspect they may have been the culprit) and I', flat out at
a loss to figure out why I'm having such huge delays in browsing. Before all
the patches, the screens would pop as fast as I could double click, now
there is at least a minimal wait on almost all machines.

To the best of my knowledge, the DNS is fine, but if somebody cares to
elaborate exactly what I should be looking at inthe DNS, I can double check
it.

Thanks.

Re: XP, or Not XP....that is the question..... by Dave

Dave
Wed Feb 25 12:59:14 CST 2004

A couple things come to mind. I would check your anti-virus software
settings in case that could be the problem. Here, we have a single
configuration for AV on all the workstations, so a change to that
configuration effects every machine. You can try disabling the AV on one
machine that's having the problem to quickly rule that in or out. Another
thing that came right to mind is a hub, switch, or network cable problem.
Although, the slow response on the server argues against that.

I'd also check for something running that should not be. This would include
spyware, but also unnecessary background services and programs that are
installed by legitimate apps. Run msconfig and look at the startup tab, or
the processes tab in Task Manager. Make sure you know what everything is,
and that you want it to be running. (When I don't know what something is, I
just search for the filename. Usually you can tell by the file's location
or properties. I ignore anything from MS - they're liable to be part of the
OS or a necessary service).


"IBC" <spamityspam@spam.spam> wrote in message
news:eNw1Nj8%23DHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> As noted here before, I have been trying to deploy an XP box on our SBS2K
> network with miserable success. When browsing network drives, the machine
> would just hang and hang. Sometimes browsing would be fast, other times
the
> machine would actually go into the "not responding" mode. So I figure this
> new XP box is killing me and my network.
>
> Low and behold, I'm on the server yesterday trying to view some files and
> while navigating through directories suddenly I get the hourglass and have
> to stand and wait around a minute before my LOCAL drives and directories
> appear. What in blazes is going on here?! I'm at a record low as far as
> critical errors go in the event logs, all the patches ahve been applied
(and
> I'm starting to suspect they may have been the culprit) and I', flat out
at
> a loss to figure out why I'm having such huge delays in browsing. Before
all
> the patches, the screens would pop as fast as I could double click, now
> there is at least a minimal wait on almost all machines.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, the DNS is fine, but if somebody cares to
> elaborate exactly what I should be looking at inthe DNS, I can double
check
> it.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>



Re: XP, or Not XP....that is the question..... by Mark

Mark
Wed Feb 25 21:34:10 CST 2004

you may want to first regedit the server and change IsDOmainMaster to true
in both places. Make sure DNS points to theSBS server only.

--
Sincerely,
Mark Mancini, CCA, CCNA, Master CIW&CI, CNE 4&5, MCSE+I 4&2000
www.MCSE2000.com
www.AppLauncher.com



"IBC" <spamityspam@spam.spam> wrote in message
news:eNw1Nj8%23DHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> As noted here before, I have been trying to deploy an XP box on our SBS2K
> network with miserable success. When browsing network drives, the machine
> would just hang and hang. Sometimes browsing would be fast, other times
the
> machine would actually go into the "not responding" mode. So I figure this
> new XP box is killing me and my network.
>
> Low and behold, I'm on the server yesterday trying to view some files and
> while navigating through directories suddenly I get the hourglass and have
> to stand and wait around a minute before my LOCAL drives and directories
> appear. What in blazes is going on here?! I'm at a record low as far as
> critical errors go in the event logs, all the patches ahve been applied
(and
> I'm starting to suspect they may have been the culprit) and I', flat out
at
> a loss to figure out why I'm having such huge delays in browsing. Before
all
> the patches, the screens would pop as fast as I could double click, now
> there is at least a minimal wait on almost all machines.
>
> To the best of my knowledge, the DNS is fine, but if somebody cares to
> elaborate exactly what I should be looking at inthe DNS, I can double
check
> it.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>



Re: XP, or Not XP....that is the question..... by IBC

IBC
Fri Feb 27 12:59:10 CST 2004

Dave,

I frequently use Ad Aware, CW Shredder, and Spybot Search and Destroy on my
workstation and my home machine, but I would never have considered running
them on a server for 2 reasons:
1. I don't browse much from the server, so the odds of it picking up
something nasty would be slim I would think.
2. Not only does it violate the user agreement, I really don't consider any
of those programs "enterprise" or server ready.

Do you think its safe to try running these on the server or should I be
looking for something ab it more 'refined'?

Our AV also runs a common configuration on all workstations. The server gets
the same client installed, however it obviously tweaked to not scan exchange
and whatnot. (InoculateIT) I had to run the only patch I could find from CA
to get it to work on the XP box. Maybe that is what is gumming up that one.
Since all machines scan incoming and outgoing files, I wonder if disabling
the AV on the XP box alone would help or if I need to disable it on the
server too.....

Anything is possible, but the Network wiring was all certified last year
after I installed it, so I wouldn't THINK that would be a problem. Our only
'hub' is the Netopia router, otherwise we use 2 HP2524 Switches, and they
don't show any (obvious) errors.

I'll start file searching\googling all the processes in the task manager,
Right out of the chute thought I see 2 instances of DLLHOST.EXE running.
Seems odd to have 2 of the same thing.....

I'll post back what I find.

Thanks.


"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" <gwdibble@NOSPAM.frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:O0Fr3F9#DHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> A couple things come to mind. I would check your anti-virus software
> settings in case that could be the problem. Here, we have a single
> configuration for AV on all the workstations, so a change to that
> configuration effects every machine. You can try disabling the AV on one
> machine that's having the problem to quickly rule that in or out. Another
> thing that came right to mind is a hub, switch, or network cable problem.
> Although, the slow response on the server argues against that.
>
> I'd also check for something running that should not be. This would
include
> spyware, but also unnecessary background services and programs that are
> installed by legitimate apps. Run msconfig and look at the startup tab,
or
> the processes tab in Task Manager. Make sure you know what everything is,
> and that you want it to be running. (When I don't know what something is,
I
> just search for the filename. Usually you can tell by the file's location
> or properties. I ignore anything from MS - they're liable to be part of
the
> OS or a necessary service).
>
>
> "IBC" <spamityspam@spam.spam> wrote in message
> news:eNw1Nj8%23DHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > As noted here before, I have been trying to deploy an XP box on our
SBS2K
> > network with miserable success. When browsing network drives, the
machine
> > would just hang and hang. Sometimes browsing would be fast, other times
> the
> > machine would actually go into the "not responding" mode. So I figure
this
> > new XP box is killing me and my network.
> >
> > Low and behold, I'm on the server yesterday trying to view some files
and
> > while navigating through directories suddenly I get the hourglass and
have
> > to stand and wait around a minute before my LOCAL drives and directories
> > appear. What in blazes is going on here?! I'm at a record low as far as
> > critical errors go in the event logs, all the patches ahve been applied
> (and
> > I'm starting to suspect they may have been the culprit) and I', flat out
> at
> > a loss to figure out why I'm having such huge delays in browsing. Before
> all
> > the patches, the screens would pop as fast as I could double click, now
> > there is at least a minimal wait on almost all machines.
> >
> > To the best of my knowledge, the DNS is fine, but if somebody cares to
> > elaborate exactly what I should be looking at inthe DNS, I can double
> check
> > it.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: XP, or Not XP....that is the question..... by Dave

Dave
Fri Feb 27 15:54:18 CST 2004

Don't overlook Mark's comments. I wouldn't run anything on the server - I
just look at the running processes and make sure none of them are mysteries.
For example, you'll know that store.exe is exchange and taskmgr.exe is task
manager. If there are any you don't recognize, search the server (probably
program files or winnt directories for a start) for that file name. When
you find it, you should be able to tell from the file's location or
properties whether it's anything to worry about or not. The Internet isn't
the only source of this stuff - I got adware on an NT server from PKZip a
few years ago.

As for network issues, do you have any hardware that is common to the
effected machines? For example, if two workstations have slow response time
with the server but not with each other, that could be the server's nic,
network cable, or the specific hub or switch port it's using.

At one time, I did have a big problem with a specific AV signature file. I
would think this would probably be pretty rare. But how about a setting -
maybe you were not scanning network drives before, but now you are. Or you
were scanning specific file extensions, but now you're scanning all. That
type of thing.


"IBC" <spamityspam@spam.spam> wrote in message
news:OrqJKPW$DHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Dave,
>
> I frequently use Ad Aware, CW Shredder, and Spybot Search and Destroy on
my
> workstation and my home machine, but I would never have considered running
> them on a server for 2 reasons:
> 1. I don't browse much from the server, so the odds of it picking up
> something nasty would be slim I would think.
> 2. Not only does it violate the user agreement, I really don't consider
any
> of those programs "enterprise" or server ready.
>
> Do you think its safe to try running these on the server or should I be
> looking for something ab it more 'refined'?
>
> Our AV also runs a common configuration on all workstations. The server
gets
> the same client installed, however it obviously tweaked to not scan
exchange
> and whatnot. (InoculateIT) I had to run the only patch I could find from
CA
> to get it to work on the XP box. Maybe that is what is gumming up that
one.
> Since all machines scan incoming and outgoing files, I wonder if disabling
> the AV on the XP box alone would help or if I need to disable it on the
> server too.....
>
> Anything is possible, but the Network wiring was all certified last year
> after I installed it, so I wouldn't THINK that would be a problem. Our
only
> 'hub' is the Netopia router, otherwise we use 2 HP2524 Switches, and they
> don't show any (obvious) errors.
>
> I'll start file searching\googling all the processes in the task manager,
> Right out of the chute thought I see 2 instances of DLLHOST.EXE running.
> Seems odd to have 2 of the same thing.....
>
> I'll post back what I find.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" <gwdibble@NOSPAM.frontiernet.net> wrote in
message
> news:O0Fr3F9#DHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > A couple things come to mind. I would check your anti-virus software
> > settings in case that could be the problem. Here, we have a single
> > configuration for AV on all the workstations, so a change to that
> > configuration effects every machine. You can try disabling the AV on
one
> > machine that's having the problem to quickly rule that in or out.
Another
> > thing that came right to mind is a hub, switch, or network cable
problem.
> > Although, the slow response on the server argues against that.
> >
> > I'd also check for something running that should not be. This would
> include
> > spyware, but also unnecessary background services and programs that are
> > installed by legitimate apps. Run msconfig and look at the startup tab,
> or
> > the processes tab in Task Manager. Make sure you know what everything
is,
> > and that you want it to be running. (When I don't know what something
is,
> I
> > just search for the filename. Usually you can tell by the file's
location
> > or properties. I ignore anything from MS - they're liable to be part of
> the
> > OS or a necessary service).
> >
> >
> > "IBC" <spamityspam@spam.spam> wrote in message
> > news:eNw1Nj8%23DHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > As noted here before, I have been trying to deploy an XP box on our
> SBS2K
> > > network with miserable success. When browsing network drives, the
> machine
> > > would just hang and hang. Sometimes browsing would be fast, other
times
> > the
> > > machine would actually go into the "not responding" mode. So I figure
> this
> > > new XP box is killing me and my network.
> > >
> > > Low and behold, I'm on the server yesterday trying to view some files
> and
> > > while navigating through directories suddenly I get the hourglass and
> have
> > > to stand and wait around a minute before my LOCAL drives and
directories
> > > appear. What in blazes is going on here?! I'm at a record low as far
as
> > > critical errors go in the event logs, all the patches ahve been
applied
> > (and
> > > I'm starting to suspect they may have been the culprit) and I', flat
out
> > at
> > > a loss to figure out why I'm having such huge delays in browsing.
Before
> > all
> > > the patches, the screens would pop as fast as I could double click,
now
> > > there is at least a minimal wait on almost all machines.
> > >
> > > To the best of my knowledge, the DNS is fine, but if somebody cares to
> > > elaborate exactly what I should be looking at inthe DNS, I can double
> > check
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: XP, or Not XP....that is the question..... by IBC

IBC
Fri Mar 05 11:13:07 CST 2004

Hi Mark & Dave,

Sorry for the delay in response, I've had many other things falling apart
outside the office so my time has been limited here.

I still have to try the reg edit for "IsDOmainMaster", (which is funny since
I tell everyone else to do it....) but otherwise Things SEEM to be OK. All
DNS listed IP's are internal numbers and anything that looks like its server
related has a server IP associated with it.

I've checked all the services and they all check out as legit. The binding
order is correct. Do you think it could be related to Microsoft Knowledge
Base Article - 292822 ? I don't really have any of those explicit errors,
but it does suggest it could screw up DNS.....

Sorry for the spotty replies....Thanks again.


"Mark Mancini" <info@NOSPAMmcse2000.com> wrote in message
news:uxyXrlB$DHA.3184@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> you may want to first regedit the server and change IsDOmainMaster to true
> in both places. Make sure DNS points to theSBS server only.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Mark Mancini, CCA, CCNA, Master CIW&CI, CNE 4&5, MCSE+I 4&2000
> www.MCSE2000.com
> www.AppLauncher.com
>
>
>
> "IBC" <spamityspam@spam.spam> wrote in message
> news:eNw1Nj8%23DHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > As noted here before, I have been trying to deploy an XP box on our
SBS2K
> > network with miserable success. When browsing network drives, the
machine
> > would just hang and hang. Sometimes browsing would be fast, other times
> the
> > machine would actually go into the "not responding" mode. So I figure
this
> > new XP box is killing me and my network.
> >
> > Low and behold, I'm on the server yesterday trying to view some files
and
> > while navigating through directories suddenly I get the hourglass and
have
> > to stand and wait around a minute before my LOCAL drives and directories
> > appear. What in blazes is going on here?! I'm at a record low as far as
> > critical errors go in the event logs, all the patches ahve been applied
> (and
> > I'm starting to suspect they may have been the culprit) and I', flat out
> at
> > a loss to figure out why I'm having such huge delays in browsing. Before
> all
> > the patches, the screens would pop as fast as I could double click, now
> > there is at least a minimal wait on almost all machines.
> >
> > To the best of my knowledge, the DNS is fine, but if somebody cares to
> > elaborate exactly what I should be looking at inthe DNS, I can double
> check
> > it.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
>
>