Hi all, hope you can help with this problem. We have a
SBS2K sever with 40 client workstations attached. The
clients are a mixture of win2k and XP. A few weeks back I
noticed that users accounts on their workstations had been
removed, meaning anything that required admin rights on
their PC was denied to them. I reset these by logging onto
each system as a local administrator and added the domain
users and domain administrators account to each one, but
over a period of a couple of days these accounts have been
deleted with the exception of one windows XP machine. I
have repeated this exercise several times, and each time
the accounts disapeared, sometimes in minutes, somtimes
taking a couple of days. It is not possible that someone
is manualy removing these as I have witnessed this
happening when no one else has access to the network.

I have checked for viruses, spyware, and any unusual
registry entries on server and clients. There is also
nothing set in group policies.

Any help would be much appreciated, this is driving me mad.

Regards...... Andy

Re: User accounts being deleted by Marina

Marina
Mon Nov 08 04:29:42 CST 2004

Hi Andy,

Why would a user need local admin rights? That is only needed when
installing applications.
Things don't happen just by itself. If you are not the one who perhaps made
group policies for this, then there must be someone else with admin rights
doing that.

--
Regards,

Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP

"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:0a5201c4c57a$539da9a0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi all, hope you can help with this problem. We have a
> SBS2K sever with 40 client workstations attached. The
> clients are a mixture of win2k and XP. A few weeks back I
> noticed that users accounts on their workstations had been
> removed, meaning anything that required admin rights on
> their PC was denied to them. I reset these by logging onto
> each system as a local administrator and added the domain
> users and domain administrators account to each one, but
> over a period of a couple of days these accounts have been
> deleted with the exception of one windows XP machine. I
> have repeated this exercise several times, and each time
> the accounts disapeared, sometimes in minutes, somtimes
> taking a couple of days. It is not possible that someone
> is manualy removing these as I have witnessed this
> happening when no one else has access to the network.
>
> I have checked for viruses, spyware, and any unusual
> registry entries on server and clients. There is also
> nothing set in group policies.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated, this is driving me mad.
>
> Regards...... Andy
>



Re: User accounts being deleted by Andy

Andy
Mon Nov 08 04:58:14 CST 2004

Hi Marina,

Thanks for coming back to me. We have an application that
doesn't run correctly unless the user has local admin
rights to their system. I forgot to mention that the
monitoring console for our anti-virus is unable to
view/control these systems across the network, although
they are updating correctly.

If someone had been messing with Group Policies, what
would I be looking for?

Kind regards.... Andy

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Andy,
>
>Why would a user need local admin rights? That is only
needed when
>installing applications.
>Things don't happen just by itself. If you are not the
one who perhaps made
>group policies for this, then there must be someone else
with admin rights
>doing that.
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>Marina
>Microsoft SBS-MVP
>
>"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in
bericht
>news:0a5201c4c57a$539da9a0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>> Hi all, hope you can help with this problem. We have a
>> SBS2K sever with 40 client workstations attached. The
>> clients are a mixture of win2k and XP. A few weeks back
I
>> noticed that users accounts on their workstations had
been
>> removed, meaning anything that required admin rights on
>> their PC was denied to them. I reset these by logging
onto
>> each system as a local administrator and added the
domain
>> users and domain administrators account to each one, but
>> over a period of a couple of days these accounts have
been
>> deleted with the exception of one windows XP machine. I
>> have repeated this exercise several times, and each time
>> the accounts disapeared, sometimes in minutes, somtimes
>> taking a couple of days. It is not possible that someone
>> is manualy removing these as I have witnessed this
>> happening when no one else has access to the network.
>>
>> I have checked for viruses, spyware, and any unusual
>> registry entries on server and clients. There is also
>> nothing set in group policies.
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated, this is driving me
mad.
>>
>> Regards...... Andy
>>
>
>
>.
>

Re: User accounts being deleted by Marina

Marina
Mon Nov 08 05:06:09 CST 2004

Hi Andy,

What kind of an application is that, that it wants the user to be a local
admin???

Is File and Printersharing enabled on the workstations? Does the
ipconfig/all show that everything is pointing to the server IP? Are there
any users at all with domain admin rights?

--
Regards,

Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP

"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:4d7001c4c581$d8273e00$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi Marina,
>
> Thanks for coming back to me. We have an application that
> doesn't run correctly unless the user has local admin
> rights to their system. I forgot to mention that the
> monitoring console for our anti-virus is unable to
> view/control these systems across the network, although
> they are updating correctly.
>
> If someone had been messing with Group Policies, what
> would I be looking for?
>
> Kind regards.... Andy
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hi Andy,
> >
> >Why would a user need local admin rights? That is only
> needed when
> >installing applications.
> >Things don't happen just by itself. If you are not the
> one who perhaps made
> >group policies for this, then there must be someone else
> with admin rights
> >doing that.
> >
> >--
> >Regards,
> >
> >Marina
> >Microsoft SBS-MVP
> >
> >"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in
> bericht
> >news:0a5201c4c57a$539da9a0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Hi all, hope you can help with this problem. We have a
> >> SBS2K sever with 40 client workstations attached. The
> >> clients are a mixture of win2k and XP. A few weeks back
> I
> >> noticed that users accounts on their workstations had
> been
> >> removed, meaning anything that required admin rights on
> >> their PC was denied to them. I reset these by logging
> onto
> >> each system as a local administrator and added the
> domain
> >> users and domain administrators account to each one, but
> >> over a period of a couple of days these accounts have
> been
> >> deleted with the exception of one windows XP machine. I
> >> have repeated this exercise several times, and each time
> >> the accounts disapeared, sometimes in minutes, somtimes
> >> taking a couple of days. It is not possible that someone
> >> is manualy removing these as I have witnessed this
> >> happening when no one else has access to the network.
> >>
> >> I have checked for viruses, spyware, and any unusual
> >> registry entries on server and clients. There is also
> >> nothing set in group policies.
> >>
> >> Any help would be much appreciated, this is driving me
> mad.
> >>
> >> Regards...... Andy
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >



Re: User accounts being deleted by Andy

Andy
Mon Nov 08 05:49:25 CST 2004

Hi Marina,

The application that requires local admin rights is an
ageing database that we are due to phase out. Some reports
just dont run if you don't have local admin rights.

OK... I've check file/print sharing and ipconfig shows
everything is pointing to the server. I have one WinXP
system that is not affected, I cant see anything in its
setup that is diferent from all the others. If I added a
new client system to the network today, by tomorrow I can
guarantee it will suffer the same problem.

If someone did have domain admin rights how would they
implement a policy that would have this effect?

Thanks... Andy


>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Andy,
>
>What kind of an application is that, that it wants the
user to be a local
>admin???
>
>Is File and Printersharing enabled on the workstations?
Does the
>ipconfig/all show that everything is pointing to the
server IP? Are there
>any users at all with domain admin rights?
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>Marina
>Microsoft SBS-MVP
>
>"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in
bericht
>news:4d7001c4c581$d8273e00$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> Hi Marina,
>>
>> Thanks for coming back to me. We have an application
that
>> doesn't run correctly unless the user has local admin
>> rights to their system. I forgot to mention that the
>> monitoring console for our anti-virus is unable to
>> view/control these systems across the network, although
>> they are updating correctly.
>>
>> If someone had been messing with Group Policies, what
>> would I be looking for?
>>
>> Kind regards.... Andy
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Hi Andy,
>> >
>> >Why would a user need local admin rights? That is only
>> needed when
>> >installing applications.
>> >Things don't happen just by itself. If you are not the
>> one who perhaps made
>> >group policies for this, then there must be someone
else
>> with admin rights
>> >doing that.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Marina
>> >Microsoft SBS-MVP
>> >
>> >"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef
in
>> bericht
>> >news:0a5201c4c57a$539da9a0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> Hi all, hope you can help with this problem. We have
a
>> >> SBS2K sever with 40 client workstations attached. The
>> >> clients are a mixture of win2k and XP. A few weeks
back
>> I
>> >> noticed that users accounts on their workstations had
>> been
>> >> removed, meaning anything that required admin rights
on
>> >> their PC was denied to them. I reset these by logging
>> onto
>> >> each system as a local administrator and added the
>> domain
>> >> users and domain administrators account to each one,
but
>> >> over a period of a couple of days these accounts have
>> been
>> >> deleted with the exception of one windows XP
machine. I
>> >> have repeated this exercise several times, and each
time
>> >> the accounts disapeared, sometimes in minutes,
somtimes
>> >> taking a couple of days. It is not possible that
someone
>> >> is manualy removing these as I have witnessed this
>> >> happening when no one else has access to the network.
>> >>
>> >> I have checked for viruses, spyware, and any unusual
>> >> registry entries on server and clients. There is also
>> >> nothing set in group policies.
>> >>
>> >> Any help would be much appreciated, this is driving
me
>> mad.
>> >>
>> >> Regards...... Andy
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

Re: User accounts being deleted by Marina

Marina
Mon Nov 08 06:10:00 CST 2004

Hi Andy,

Does someone else have domain admin rights?? Which ports do you have open
inbound? Is the server and are the clients fully patched?

--
Regards,

Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP

"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:450701c4c588$ff231590$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi Marina,
>
> The application that requires local admin rights is an
> ageing database that we are due to phase out. Some reports
> just dont run if you don't have local admin rights.
>
> OK... I've check file/print sharing and ipconfig shows
> everything is pointing to the server. I have one WinXP
> system that is not affected, I cant see anything in its
> setup that is diferent from all the others. If I added a
> new client system to the network today, by tomorrow I can
> guarantee it will suffer the same problem.
>
> If someone did have domain admin rights how would they
> implement a policy that would have this effect?
>
> Thanks... Andy
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hi Andy,
> >
> >What kind of an application is that, that it wants the
> user to be a local
> >admin???
> >
> >Is File and Printersharing enabled on the workstations?
> Does the
> >ipconfig/all show that everything is pointing to the
> server IP? Are there
> >any users at all with domain admin rights?
> >
> >--
> >Regards,
> >
> >Marina
> >Microsoft SBS-MVP
> >
> >"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in
> bericht
> >news:4d7001c4c581$d8273e00$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Hi Marina,
> >>
> >> Thanks for coming back to me. We have an application
> that
> >> doesn't run correctly unless the user has local admin
> >> rights to their system. I forgot to mention that the
> >> monitoring console for our anti-virus is unable to
> >> view/control these systems across the network, although
> >> they are updating correctly.
> >>
> >> If someone had been messing with Group Policies, what
> >> would I be looking for?
> >>
> >> Kind regards.... Andy
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Hi Andy,
> >> >
> >> >Why would a user need local admin rights? That is only
> >> needed when
> >> >installing applications.
> >> >Things don't happen just by itself. If you are not the
> >> one who perhaps made
> >> >group policies for this, then there must be someone
> else
> >> with admin rights
> >> >doing that.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Regards,
> >> >
> >> >Marina
> >> >Microsoft SBS-MVP
> >> >
> >> >"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef
> in
> >> bericht
> >> >news:0a5201c4c57a$539da9a0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> Hi all, hope you can help with this problem. We have
> a
> >> >> SBS2K sever with 40 client workstations attached. The
> >> >> clients are a mixture of win2k and XP. A few weeks
> back
> >> I
> >> >> noticed that users accounts on their workstations had
> >> been
> >> >> removed, meaning anything that required admin rights
> on
> >> >> their PC was denied to them. I reset these by logging
> >> onto
> >> >> each system as a local administrator and added the
> >> domain
> >> >> users and domain administrators account to each one,
> but
> >> >> over a period of a couple of days these accounts have
> >> been
> >> >> deleted with the exception of one windows XP
> machine. I
> >> >> have repeated this exercise several times, and each
> time
> >> >> the accounts disapeared, sometimes in minutes,
> somtimes
> >> >> taking a couple of days. It is not possible that
> someone
> >> >> is manualy removing these as I have witnessed this
> >> >> happening when no one else has access to the network.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have checked for viruses, spyware, and any unusual
> >> >> registry entries on server and clients. There is also
> >> >> nothing set in group policies.
> >> >>
> >> >> Any help would be much appreciated, this is driving
> me
> >> mad.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards...... Andy
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >



Re: User accounts being deleted by Dave

Dave
Mon Nov 08 08:48:23 CST 2004

Andy,

If someone has set a policy that is affecting local group membership,
it might be in an AD group policy object under:
Computer Configuration>Windows Settings>Security Settings>Restricted Groups
It could also be done using a machine startup script, or other scripting
method.

Hope that helps,
DS

"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:450701c4c588$ff231590$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi Marina,
>
> The application that requires local admin rights is an
> ageing database that we are due to phase out. Some reports
> just dont run if you don't have local admin rights.
>
> OK... I've check file/print sharing and ipconfig shows
> everything is pointing to the server. I have one WinXP
> system that is not affected, I cant see anything in its
> setup that is diferent from all the others. If I added a
> new client system to the network today, by tomorrow I can
> guarantee it will suffer the same problem.
>
> If someone did have domain admin rights how would they
> implement a policy that would have this effect?
>
> Thanks... Andy
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Andy,
>>
>>What kind of an application is that, that it wants the
> user to be a local
>>admin???
>>
>>Is File and Printersharing enabled on the workstations?
> Does the
>>ipconfig/all show that everything is pointing to the
> server IP? Are there
>>any users at all with domain admin rights?
>>
>>--
>>Regards,
>>
>>Marina
>>Microsoft SBS-MVP
>>
>>"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in
> bericht
>>news:4d7001c4c581$d8273e00$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Marina,
>>>
>>> Thanks for coming back to me. We have an application
> that
>>> doesn't run correctly unless the user has local admin
>>> rights to their system. I forgot to mention that the
>>> monitoring console for our anti-virus is unable to
>>> view/control these systems across the network, although
>>> they are updating correctly.
>>>
>>> If someone had been messing with Group Policies, what
>>> would I be looking for?
>>>
>>> Kind regards.... Andy
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >Hi Andy,
>>> >
>>> >Why would a user need local admin rights? That is only
>>> needed when
>>> >installing applications.
>>> >Things don't happen just by itself. If you are not the
>>> one who perhaps made
>>> >group policies for this, then there must be someone
> else
>>> with admin rights
>>> >doing that.
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >Regards,
>>> >
>>> >Marina
>>> >Microsoft SBS-MVP
>>> >
>>> >"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef
> in
>>> bericht
>>> >news:0a5201c4c57a$539da9a0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>> >> Hi all, hope you can help with this problem. We have
> a
>>> >> SBS2K sever with 40 client workstations attached. The
>>> >> clients are a mixture of win2k and XP. A few weeks
> back
>>> I
>>> >> noticed that users accounts on their workstations had
>>> been
>>> >> removed, meaning anything that required admin rights
> on
>>> >> their PC was denied to them. I reset these by logging
>>> onto
>>> >> each system as a local administrator and added the
>>> domain
>>> >> users and domain administrators account to each one,
> but
>>> >> over a period of a couple of days these accounts have
>>> been
>>> >> deleted with the exception of one windows XP
> machine. I
>>> >> have repeated this exercise several times, and each
> time
>>> >> the accounts disapeared, sometimes in minutes,
> somtimes
>>> >> taking a couple of days. It is not possible that
> someone
>>> >> is manualy removing these as I have witnessed this
>>> >> happening when no one else has access to the network.
>>> >>
>>> >> I have checked for viruses, spyware, and any unusual
>>> >> registry entries on server and clients. There is also
>>> >> nothing set in group policies.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any help would be much appreciated, this is driving
> me
>>> mad.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards...... Andy
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >.
>>> >
>>
>>
>>.
>>



Re: User accounts being deleted by Dave

Dave
Mon Nov 08 12:15:36 CST 2004

That AV thing sounds like an XP SP2 issue - I ran into the exact same thing
with eTrust (PCs would update but could not be remotely monitored or
configured). Your AV company should have a patch or workaround for that.


"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4d7001c4c581$d8273e00$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi Marina,
>
> Thanks for coming back to me. We have an application that
> doesn't run correctly unless the user has local admin
> rights to their system. I forgot to mention that the
> monitoring console for our anti-virus is unable to
> view/control these systems across the network, although
> they are updating correctly.
>
> If someone had been messing with Group Policies, what
> would I be looking for?
>
> Kind regards.... Andy
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Andy,
>>
>>Why would a user need local admin rights? That is only
> needed when
>>installing applications.
>>Things don't happen just by itself. If you are not the
> one who perhaps made
>>group policies for this, then there must be someone else
> with admin rights
>>doing that.
>>
>>--
>>Regards,
>>
>>Marina
>>Microsoft SBS-MVP
>>
>>"Andy L" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in
> bericht
>>news:0a5201c4c57a$539da9a0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>> Hi all, hope you can help with this problem. We have a
>>> SBS2K sever with 40 client workstations attached. The
>>> clients are a mixture of win2k and XP. A few weeks back
> I
>>> noticed that users accounts on their workstations had
> been
>>> removed, meaning anything that required admin rights on
>>> their PC was denied to them. I reset these by logging
> onto
>>> each system as a local administrator and added the
> domain
>>> users and domain administrators account to each one, but
>>> over a period of a couple of days these accounts have
> been
>>> deleted with the exception of one windows XP machine. I
>>> have repeated this exercise several times, and each time
>>> the accounts disapeared, sometimes in minutes, somtimes
>>> taking a couple of days. It is not possible that someone
>>> is manualy removing these as I have witnessed this
>>> happening when no one else has access to the network.
>>>
>>> I have checked for viruses, spyware, and any unusual
>>> registry entries on server and clients. There is also
>>> nothing set in group policies.
>>>
>>> Any help would be much appreciated, this is driving me
> mad.
>>>
>>> Regards...... Andy
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>