We are looking at upgrading our Small Bus server from 2000 to the most
recent version which I think is still 2003 correct? The issue we are
currently facing is that I am wondering if I should just ditch SBS 2000
completley and go with the purchase of stand alone products (i.e. separate
Server (domain controller) , separate SQL Server, separate Exchange server)
and leave SBS as it is or to upgrade our current SBS 2000 to SBS 2003. I am
thinking it will most likley be the cheapest and easiest for us to upgrade
from SBS 2000 to SBS 2003 (or later) - however, we really only want the
newer versions of Exchange and SQL server - specifically Exchange at this
point - and it might be nice to move right up to Exchange 2008 instead of
stopping at 2003. However, that may also entail some hardware upgrades (or
new server to purchase) if we do that...

Does anyone have any idea on cost to upgrade from SBS 2000 to SBS 2003 to do
something like this and maybe some technical details of SBS 2003 ie. # of
concurrent users, max email database size (Exchange 2000 is 16gb - which we
have already hit before)? I suspect this type of an upgrade will most likely
be quite a job. Does anyone have any information to offer on this type of a
venture?

Thanks, Brad

Re: Upgrading Small Bus server... by Steve

Steve
Tue Mar 04 14:55:05 CST 2008

See Cris' comment to your other post. Since SBS 2008 should release in a few
months you may be better off waiting for that. SBS 2003 is a great product
and most of my clients will probably be sticking with it for another year or
2. It includes Exchange 2003 which with Exchange SP2 has raised the database
size limit to 75 GB.

"Brad Pears" <bradp@truenorthloghomes.com> wrote in message
news:OP1WRhjfIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> We are looking at upgrading our Small Bus server from 2000 to the most
> recent version which I think is still 2003 correct? The issue we are
> currently facing is that I am wondering if I should just ditch SBS 2000
> completley and go with the purchase of stand alone products (i.e. separate
> Server (domain controller) , separate SQL Server, separate Exchange
> server) and leave SBS as it is or to upgrade our current SBS 2000 to SBS
> 2003. I am thinking it will most likley be the cheapest and easiest for us
> to upgrade from SBS 2000 to SBS 2003 (or later) - however, we really only
> want the newer versions of Exchange and SQL server - specifically Exchange
> at this point - and it might be nice to move right up to Exchange 2008
> instead of stopping at 2003. However, that may also entail some hardware
> upgrades (or new server to purchase) if we do that...
>
> Does anyone have any idea on cost to upgrade from SBS 2000 to SBS 2003 to
> do something like this and maybe some technical details of SBS 2003 ie. #
> of concurrent users, max email database size (Exchange 2000 is 16gb -
> which we have already hit before)? I suspect this type of an upgrade will
> most likely be quite a job. Does anyone have any information to offer on
> this type of a venture?
>
> Thanks, Brad
>
>



Re: Upgrading Small Bus server... by Cris

Cris
Tue Mar 04 15:03:05 CST 2008

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The latest version of SBS at present is 2003, however as I indicated in =
my other posting...SBS 2008 will be out sometime late this year

It wouldn't make much sense to upgrade to 03 now in my opinion and then =
in 6 months you'd be looking at upgrading again if you wanted the latest =
version of Exchange (2007)

Exchange 2007 will only run on 64 bit hardware, therefore SBS 2008 will =
require 64 bit server hardware.

There will be NO inplace upgrade from SBS 2003 to SBS 2008

Current Exchange 2003 DB limits are 75GB, they will be higher in =
Exchange 2007.

You could never upgrade to the retail versions of Windows Server 2008, =
Exchange Server 2007 and all the CALs for what you'll be able to upgrade =
to SBS 2008 later this year. Exact costs are not published yet but most =
likely you could Get SBS 2008 Standard for far under 1k plus your new =
server hardware.

If you look at upgrading to SBS 2003 now and you want to keep ISA you =
are probably looking around 1200.00 and most likely you'll need new =
hardware to put it on.

If you need more...just ask



--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft
Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
"Brad Pears" <bradp@truenorthloghomes.com> wrote in message =
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recent version which I think is still 2003 correct? The issue we are=20
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and leave SBS as it is or to upgrade our current SBS 2000 to SBS 2003. =
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upgrade=20
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the=20
newer versions of Exchange and SQL server - specifically Exchange at =
this=20
point - and it might be nice to move right up to Exchange 2008 instead =
of=20
stopping at 2003. However, that may also entail some hardware upgrades =
(or=20
new server to purchase) if we do that...

Does anyone have any idea on cost to upgrade from SBS 2000 to SBS 2003 =
to do=20
something like this and maybe some technical details of SBS 2003 ie. # =
of=20
concurrent users, max email database size (Exchange 2000 is 16gb - =
which we=20
have already hit before)? I suspect this type of an upgrade will most =
likely=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Cris Hanna [SBS -=20
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=
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wrote in message <A=20
=
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maybe some technical details of SBS 2003 ie. # of <BR>concurrent =
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hit=20
before)? I suspect this type of an upgrade will most likely <BR>be =
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Re: Upgrading Small Bus server... by Brad

Brad
Tue Mar 04 16:44:31 CST 2008

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Thanks Chris, that gives me some info to get started on. I need to go to =
management with a plan and funding requirements.

Thanks, Brad
"Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" <crisnospamhanna@cpunospamservices.net> wrote =
in message news:uTZklsjfIHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
The latest version of SBS at present is 2003, however as I indicated =
in my other posting...SBS 2008 will be out sometime late this year

It wouldn't make much sense to upgrade to 03 now in my opinion and =
then in 6 months you'd be looking at upgrading again if you wanted the =
latest version of Exchange (2007)

Exchange 2007 will only run on 64 bit hardware, therefore SBS 2008 =
will require 64 bit server hardware.

There will be NO inplace upgrade from SBS 2003 to SBS 2008

Current Exchange 2003 DB limits are 75GB, they will be higher in =
Exchange 2007.

You could never upgrade to the retail versions of Windows Server 2008, =
Exchange Server 2007 and all the CALs for what you'll be able to upgrade =
to SBS 2008 later this year. Exact costs are not published yet but most =
likely you could Get SBS 2008 Standard for far under 1k plus your new =
server hardware.

If you look at upgrading to SBS 2003 now and you want to keep ISA you =
are probably looking around 1200.00 and most likely you'll need new =
hardware to put it on.

If you need more...just ask



--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
MVPs Do Not Work for Microsoft
Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
"Brad Pears" <bradp@truenorthloghomes.com> wrote in message =
news:OP1WRhjfIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
We are looking at upgrading our Small Bus server from 2000 to the =
most=20
recent version which I think is still 2003 correct? The issue we are =

currently facing is that I am wondering if I should just ditch SBS =
2000=20
completley and go with the purchase of stand alone products (i.e. =
separate=20
Server (domain controller) , separate SQL Server, separate Exchange =
server)=20
and leave SBS as it is or to upgrade our current SBS 2000 to SBS =
2003. I am=20
thinking it will most likley be the cheapest and easiest for us to =
upgrade=20
from SBS 2000 to SBS 2003 (or later) - however, we really only want =
the=20
newer versions of Exchange and SQL server - specifically Exchange at =
this=20
point - and it might be nice to move right up to Exchange 2008 =
instead of=20
stopping at 2003. However, that may also entail some hardware =
upgrades (or=20
new server to purchase) if we do that...

Does anyone have any idea on cost to upgrade from SBS 2000 to SBS =
2003 to do=20
something like this and maybe some technical details of SBS 2003 ie. =
# of=20
concurrent users, max email database size (Exchange 2000 is 16gb - =
which we=20
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most likely=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks, Brad</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:crisnospamhanna@cpunospamservices.net">crisnospamhanna@cpu=
nospamservices.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:uTZklsjfIHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl">news:uTZklsjfIHA.4144=
@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The latest version of SBS at present =
is 2003,=20
however as I indicated in my other posting...SBS 2008 will be out =
sometime=20
late this year</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It wouldn't make much sense to =
upgrade to 03 now=20
in my opinion and then in 6 months you'd be looking at upgrading again =
if you=20
wanted the latest version of Exchange (2007)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Exchange 2007 will only run on 64 bit =
hardware,=20
therefore SBS 2008 will require 64 bit server hardware.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There will be NO inplace upgrade from =
SBS 2003 to=20
SBS 2008</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Current Exchange 2003 DB limits are =
75GB, they=20
will be higher in Exchange 2007.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You could never upgrade to the retail =
versions of=20
Windows Server 2008, Exchange Server 2007 and all the CALs for what =
you'll be=20
able to upgrade to SBS 2008 later this year.&nbsp; Exact costs are not =

published yet but most likely you could Get SBS 2008 Standard for far =
under 1k=20
plus your new server hardware.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you look at upgrading to SBS 2003 =
now and you=20
want to keep ISA you are probably looking around 1200.00 and most =
likely=20
you'll need new hardware to put it on.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you need more...just =
ask</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Cris Hanna [SBS -=20
=
MVP]<BR>-----------------------------------------------------------<BR>MV=
Ps Do=20
Not Work for Microsoft<BR>Please do not contact me directly regarding=20
issues</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Brad Pears" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:bradp@truenorthloghomes.com">bradp@truenorthloghomes.com</=
A>&gt;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:OP1WRhjfIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl">news:OP1WRhjfIHA.2268=
@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>We=20
are looking at upgrading our Small Bus server from 2000 to the most=20
<BR>recent version which I think is still 2003 correct? The issue we =
are=20
<BR>currently facing is that I am wondering if I should just ditch =
SBS 2000=20
<BR>completley and go with the purchase of stand alone products =
(i.e.=20
separate <BR>Server (domain controller) , separate SQL Server, =
separate=20
Exchange server) <BR>and leave SBS as it is or to upgrade our =
current SBS=20
2000 to SBS 2003. I am <BR>thinking it will most likley be the =
cheapest and=20
easiest for us to upgrade <BR>from SBS 2000 to SBS 2003 (or later) - =

however, we really only want the <BR>newer versions of Exchange and =
SQL=20
server - specifically Exchange at this <BR>point - and it might be =
nice to=20
move right up to Exchange 2008 instead of <BR>stopping at 2003. =
However,=20
that may also entail some hardware upgrades (or <BR>new server to =
purchase)=20
if we do that...<BR><BR>Does anyone have any idea on cost to upgrade =
from=20
SBS 2000 to SBS 2003 to do <BR>something like this and maybe some =
technical=20
details of SBS 2003 ie. # of <BR>concurrent users, max email =
database size=20
(Exchange 2000 is 16gb - which we <BR>have already hit before)? I =
suspect=20
this type of an upgrade will most likely <BR>be quite a job. Does =
anyone=20
have any information to offer on this type of a =
<BR>venture?<BR><BR>Thanks,=20
Brad<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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