Re: SBS2000 Upgrade options????? by Jeff
Jeff
Sun May 23 10:28:38 CDT 2004
I agree with you that TD is really creating a backlash for themselves.
Still if you reread your comments you do come off singing the praises of
Dell. And your comments may apply to me but don't sound like they would
apply to David who might get better advice from someone like Softchoice.com
or through a reseller such as yourself who knows what questions to ask and
where to go to get competitive pricing.
Cheers,
Jeff Loucks
Available Technology ®
Solutions For Professionals ®
www.availabletechnology.com
"Mark Mancini" <info@NOSPAMmcse2000.com> wrote in message
news:em80#gNQEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Jeff, I don't pray to Dell!!! I just buy about $20,000 a month from them.
> I have an MS rep there that gets me licenses and a h/w rep that gets me
h/w.
> I get better pricing than Tech Data and quicker response. Granted, if you
> are not doing that level of sales with them, they may try to screw you.
> When I talk with the MS rep, the Dell guy isn't on the phone.....The MS
rep
> fills my needs and emails what I want to the Dell rep who sends me pricing
> JUST LIKE CDW, Tech Data, or those other places you may deal with. I buy
> many non-Dell parts from them b/c all they are are middle men for places
> like TD the thing is they only put a couple % on it and give it to me at
the
> high level that TD has and not have to deal with TD's BS.
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Mark Mancini, CCA, CCNA, Master CIW&CI, CNE 4&5, MCSE+I 4&2000
> www.MCSE2000.com
> www.AppLauncher.com
>
>
>
> "Jeff L" <newsgroupsremoveandunderscore_jeff@availabletech.net> wrote in
> message news:%23%23Yy6KBQEHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > I deal with Dell every day. They are not specialists in software. That
is
> my
> > only point. If you are looking at ways to get only what you need an
> minimise
> > cost Dell will not be able to provide good advice on that.
> >
> > I am quite glad that you pray at the alter of Dell. Personally, I think
> they
> > are fine but you will get better advice about software from a company
that
> > specializes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mark Mancini" <info@NOSPAMmcse2000.com> wrote in message
> > news:O$uDCW6PEHA.3216@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Jeff, don't know what you are talking about, Dell sells open licenses
> > w/out
> > > hardware....no need to go anywhere else and they are VERY competitive.
> > You
> > > should look into it.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Mark Mancini, CCA, CCNA, Master CIW&CI, CNE 4&5, MCSE+I 4&2000
> > > www.MCSE2000.com
> > > www.AppLauncher.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jeff L" <newsgroupsremoveandunderscore_jeff@availabletech.net> wrote
in
> > > message news:OjqKg5zPEHA.3596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > The cheapest option depends on your current hardware.
> > > >
> > > > If you plan on keeping your existing hardware then volume license
> > Exchange
> > > > 2003 and run it on Windows 2000. But then it depends on the features
> you
> > > > need from SBS.
> > > >
> > > > If you plan on buying new hardware then I would suggest you plan to
> buy
> > > oem
> > > > versions. By the way you can get SA for OEM software.
> > > >
> > > > I have nothing against Dell but they do want to sell hardware and
may
> > not
> > > > make the other options available unless you ask. Personally, I would
> > look
> > > at
> > > > someone who is more specialized.
> > > >
> > > > Feel free to contact me if you want more informaiton or assistance
> > > > determining the best route.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Loucks
> > > > Available Technology ®
> > > > Solutions For Professionals ®
> > > > www.availabletechnology.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "David G" <david@no_spam.newenden.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > news:eM1IQGnPEHA.1312@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > We currently have a client running SBS2000 with approx 45 users.
> > > > >
> > > > > The company is just about to expand by another 40 users this will
> push
> > > us
> > > > > over the thershold for SBS2000 and SBS2003. I am interested in the
> > > upgrade
> > > > > options available.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been trawling the microsoft website for dirrerent options
but
> > > drawn
> > > > a
> > > > > couple of blanks so thought I would turn to the masses for advice.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. I Understand a small business server is not going to be an
option
> > and
> > > I
> > > > > am going to have to move to server plus exchange.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Microsoft offered the SBS2000 Migration Pack, which to my
> > > understanding
> > > > > was to help move from SBS to seperates. But to my understanding
this
> > has
> > > > now
> > > > > been discontinued and replaced by the SBS2003 Transition Pack.
> > > > > Now will the SBS2003 transition pack get me from SBS2000 to Server
> > 2003
> > > > > seperates or do you have to upgrade to SBS2003 which is a
pointless
> > > > exercise
> > > > > as our clients will be too big for this.
> > > > >
> > > > > The CAL's on the SBS2000 are OEM and there for dont have software
> > > > assurance
> > > > > so also I belive these cannot be used in conjunction with SBS2003.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is going to be the cheapest option for the upgrade?
> > > > >
> > > > > Buying Server2003 and Exchange 2003 seperate or is there a
migration
> > > pack
> > > > > that will take us from SBS2000 to Server 2003???
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Many Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > David
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