Hi -

I have a client who is currently on Small Business Server 2003, and
have outgrown their setup. I'm replacing their SBS2003 box with a new
W2K3 R2 server, and want to transfer Active Directory so as to
simplify workstation reconfiguration. Please note the following:

1. Exchange is not used, so is not a factor.
2. The new server will not have the same name as the previous one (it
was poorly named).
3. The SBS server will be reformatted and reinstalled as a Terminal
Server.
4. I'm not interested in swing migration.

I know SBS only supports 1 SBS server per domain, but have heard you
can add a standard (full version) Windows server as a 2nd domain
controller. I've also have heard SBS insists on holding the FSMO
roles, and will shut down after a period of time if the roles are
transferred. I have found an article that details what I feel to be
the correct procedure, and it is here:

http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Migrating-Small-Business-Server-2003-Exchange-Standard-Part1.html

I know I may also have to run the R2 version of ADPREP to get the SBS
2003 SP1 Active Directory scheme up to date. I just need confirmation
that this is a supported procedure, that SBS will allow you to
transfer FMSO roles (even if it doesn't like it), and that there are
no limitations or "poison pills" in the SBS version of AD that would
keep it from operating correctly if transferred to a full W2K3 server.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Sky Brower
MCSE, A+

Re: Transferring AD from SBS2003 SP1 to W2K3 Server R2 by John

John
Wed Aug 08 21:01:20 CDT 2007

Yes, you can install the Windows 2003 R2 Server in the SBS domain, promote
it to a DC and transfer the FSMO Roles. Install Integrated DNS on the R2
server and setup a zone transfer between SBS and R2. Make the new R2 server
a GC and transfer the FMSO roles using ntdsutil. Run DCPROMO on the SBS
server to demote it. Then from Add/Remove programs remove SBS from the SBS
server or just reinstall a new OS.

Here is a link referring, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555073

--
John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2007
Microsoft Certified Partner


<skyman@aristotle.net> wrote in message
news:1186581977.318559.241350@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> Hi -
>
> I have a client who is currently on Small Business Server 2003, and
> have outgrown their setup. I'm replacing their SBS2003 box with a new
> W2K3 R2 server, and want to transfer Active Directory so as to
> simplify workstation reconfiguration. Please note the following:
>
> 1. Exchange is not used, so is not a factor.
> 2. The new server will not have the same name as the previous one (it
> was poorly named).
> 3. The SBS server will be reformatted and reinstalled as a Terminal
> Server.
> 4. I'm not interested in swing migration.
>
> I know SBS only supports 1 SBS server per domain, but have heard you
> can add a standard (full version) Windows server as a 2nd domain
> controller. I've also have heard SBS insists on holding the FSMO
> roles, and will shut down after a period of time if the roles are
> transferred. I have found an article that details what I feel to be
> the correct procedure, and it is here:
>
> http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Migrating-Small-Business-Server-2003-Exchange-Standard-Part1.html
>
> I know I may also have to run the R2 version of ADPREP to get the SBS
> 2003 SP1 Active Directory scheme up to date. I just need confirmation
> that this is a supported procedure, that SBS will allow you to
> transfer FMSO roles (even if it doesn't like it), and that there are
> no limitations or "poison pills" in the SBS version of AD that would
> keep it from operating correctly if transferred to a full W2K3 server.
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice!
>
> Sky Brower
> MCSE, A+
>


Re: Transferring AD from SBS2003 SP1 to W2K3 Server R2 by Cris

Cris
Thu Aug 09 09:55:08 CDT 2007

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John is incorrect about the last portion.
You cannot run DC PROMO on and SBS server to demote it...won't work and =
if it did it would be a violation of the EULA and you'd still have the =
SBS version of the Win2k3 OS with its restrictions.

You must flatten the SBS box and re-installed with valid NON SBS =
media/license of your choice

--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
-------------------------------------------------
Microsoft MVPs
Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
Real World Answers
---------------------------------------------------------
Please do not contact me directly regarding issues

"John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]" <jcoliverjr@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:ejYjlli2HHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Yes, you can install the Windows 2003 R2 Server in the SBS domain, =
promote=20
it to a DC and transfer the FSMO Roles. Install Integrated DNS on the =
R2=20
server and setup a zone transfer between SBS and R2. Make the new R2 =
server=20
a GC and transfer the FMSO roles using ntdsutil. Run DCPROMO on the =
SBS=20
server to demote it. Then from Add/Remove programs remove SBS from =
the SBS=20
server or just reinstall a new OS.

Here is a link referring, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555073

--=20
John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2007
Microsoft Certified Partner


<skyman@aristotle.net> wrote in message=20
news:1186581977.318559.241350@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> Hi -
>
> I have a client who is currently on Small Business Server 2003, and
> have outgrown their setup. I'm replacing their SBS2003 box with a =
new
> W2K3 R2 server, and want to transfer Active Directory so as to
> simplify workstation reconfiguration. Please note the following:
>
> 1. Exchange is not used, so is not a factor.
> 2. The new server will not have the same name as the previous one =
(it
> was poorly named).
> 3. The SBS server will be reformatted and reinstalled as a Terminal
> Server.
> 4. I'm not interested in swing migration.
>
> I know SBS only supports 1 SBS server per domain, but have heard you
> can add a standard (full version) Windows server as a 2nd domain
> controller. I've also have heard SBS insists on holding the FSMO
> roles, and will shut down after a period of time if the roles are
> transferred. I have found an article that details what I feel to be
> the correct procedure, and it is here:
>
> =
http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Migrating-Small-Business-Server-2003-=
Exchange-Standard-Part1.html
>
> I know I may also have to run the R2 version of ADPREP to get the =
SBS
> 2003 SP1 Active Directory scheme up to date. I just need =
confirmation
> that this is a supported procedure, that SBS will allow you to
> transfer FMSO roles (even if it doesn't like it), and that there are
> no limitations or "poison pills" in the SBS version of AD that would
> keep it from operating correctly if transferred to a full W2K3 =
server.
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice!
>
> Sky Brower
> MCSE, A+
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