Hi all

I am currently trying to implement TS and I have a couple
of questions that I am unable to find the answers to!

Question 1
All our clients are XP so I know we don't need any TS
licences but do I still need to install a Licensing
Server?

Question 2
I want to run Office 2003 on the TS and have succesfully
installed it and used it on a clients session. Do I need
to purchase any additional licences for Office 2003?

Question 3
Users are going to be remotely acccessing TS via a VPN.
Is there anything I need to do in relation to that?

thanks for any assitance you can provide

Mark

Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Javier

Javier
Mon Jul 12 13:04:08 CDT 2004

> All our clients are XP so I know we don't need any TS
> licences but do I still need to install a Licensing
> Server?

Yes. BTW-> You don't need TS licenses if you are running TS on a Win2k box.

> Question 2
> I want to run Office 2003 on the TS and have succesfully
> installed it and used it on a clients session. Do I need
> to purchase any additional licences for Office 2003?

AFAIK-> Yes, one per user.

> Users are going to be remotely acccessing TS via a VPN.
> Is there anything I need to do in relation to that?

Not really. However, does the clients really need VPN access? What I did on
one of my implementations was to get a VPN router in front of SBS/ISA and
published the TS to the external interface (but it is not forwarded in the
VPN router). The client VPNs to the router and has access to TS this way
(and the TS port is not exposed publicly).

--
Javier [SBS MVP]

<< SBS ROCKS!!! >>



Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Mark

Mark
Mon Jul 12 13:26:25 CDT 2004

Thanks Javier

The TS is going to be behind the VPN as you suggest and
not directly into the open web.
Can I install two different versions of office and make
it available to different users?
It;s just that instead of purchasing additional licences,
I will probably uninstall Office on the users that need
to use TS and use the licences there.
What does the licensing server actually do?

>-----Original Message-----
>> All our clients are XP so I know we don't need any TS
>> licences but do I still need to install a Licensing
>> Server?
>
>Yes. BTW-> You don't need TS licenses if you are running
TS on a Win2k box.
>
>> Question 2
>> I want to run Office 2003 on the TS and have
succesfully
>> installed it and used it on a clients session. Do I
need
>> to purchase any additional licences for Office 2003?
>
>AFAIK-> Yes, one per user.
>
>> Users are going to be remotely acccessing TS via a VPN.
>> Is there anything I need to do in relation to that?
>
>Not really. However, does the clients really need VPN
access? What I did on
>one of my implementations was to get a VPN router in
front of SBS/ISA and
>published the TS to the external interface (but it is
not forwarded in the
>VPN router). The client VPNs to the router and has
access to TS this way
>(and the TS port is not exposed publicly).
>
>--
>Javier [SBS MVP]
>
><< SBS ROCKS!!! >>
>
>
>.
>

Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Javier

Javier
Mon Jul 12 13:38:23 CDT 2004

> Can I install two different versions of office and make
> it available to different users?

I have little experience with that scenario, so I will let somebody else
answer that question.

> It;s just that instead of purchasing additional licences,
> I will probably uninstall Office on the users that need
> to use TS and use the licences there.

If I were you... I would use downgrade rights and install the oldest
version of the ones that you have availble. I don't know if this applies to
your case, but most of the time it does. I like standarized software... one
less thing to worry about :-)

> What does the licensing server actually do?

In your case-> Verifies that the computer connecting has Win2k or XP Pro and
issue a "free" TS token to that machine. If you attempt to connect with a
machine running other OS... it will issue a temp CAL (which eventually will
expire and you will no longer be able to access the server, assuming you
don't have any TS CALs available).

Remember the license server should reside on a DC (the SBS box).

--
Javier [SBS MVP]

<< SBS ROCKS!!! >>



Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Javier

Javier
Mon Jul 12 13:41:59 CDT 2004

One more thing which might be important...

I don't know how older versions of Office work under TS... but I believe
that with Office XP and 2k3 you are required to have Open License media to
install. Retail media won't work, and OEM is certainly not allowed.

--
Javier [SBS MVP]

<< SBS ROCKS!!! >>

"Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]" <javier_gomez@REMOVE.THIS.engineer.com> wrote in
message news:ucECz9DaEHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Can I install two different versions of office and make
>> it available to different users?
>
> I have little experience with that scenario, so I will let somebody else
> answer that question.
>
>> It;s just that instead of purchasing additional licences,
>> I will probably uninstall Office on the users that need
>> to use TS and use the licences there.
>
> If I were you... I would use downgrade rights and install the oldest
> version of the ones that you have availble. I don't know if this applies
> to your case, but most of the time it does. I like standarized software...
> one less thing to worry about :-)
>
>> What does the licensing server actually do?
>
> In your case-> Verifies that the computer connecting has Win2k or XP Pro
> and issue a "free" TS token to that machine. If you attempt to connect
> with a machine running other OS... it will issue a temp CAL (which
> eventually will expire and you will no longer be able to access the
> server, assuming you don't have any TS CALs available).
>
> Remember the license server should reside on a DC (the SBS box).
>
> --
> Javier [SBS MVP]
>
> << SBS ROCKS!!! >>
>



Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Mark

Mark
Mon Jul 12 14:07:31 CDT 2004

Thanks again javier

What about if a laptop user that has Office 2003
installed on his laptop locally connects to the TS and
uses Office 2003 on TS. Does he still need an additional
licence or does the locally installed licence cover it?
The situation is that the remote users occasionally need
to access a large file on the shared drive and over a
standard VPN connection it is very slow to download so it
has been suggested that they connect to a TS session when
connected to the VPN and view the file that way but if
you need to get 2 licences for each user then thats not
viable!!
Thanks for all your other info, it's of great help

Mark
>-----Original Message-----
>One more thing which might be important...
>
>I don't know how older versions of Office work under
TS... but I believe
>that with Office XP and 2k3 you are required to have
Open License media to
>install. Retail media won't work, and OEM is certainly
not allowed.
>
>--
>Javier [SBS MVP]
>
><< SBS ROCKS!!! >>
>
>"Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]"
<javier_gomez@REMOVE.THIS.engineer.com> wrote in
>message news:ucECz9DaEHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> Can I install two different versions of office and
make
>>> it available to different users?
>>
>> I have little experience with that scenario, so I will
let somebody else
>> answer that question.
>>
>>> It;s just that instead of purchasing additional
licences,
>>> I will probably uninstall Office on the users that
need
>>> to use TS and use the licences there.
>>
>> If I were you... I would use downgrade rights and
install the oldest
>> version of the ones that you have availble. I don't
know if this applies
>> to your case, but most of the time it does. I like
standarized software...
>> one less thing to worry about :-)
>>
>>> What does the licensing server actually do?
>>
>> In your case-> Verifies that the computer connecting
has Win2k or XP Pro
>> and issue a "free" TS token to that machine. If you
attempt to connect
>> with a machine running other OS... it will issue a
temp CAL (which
>> eventually will expire and you will no longer be able
to access the
>> server, assuming you don't have any TS CALs available).
>>
>> Remember the license server should reside on a DC (the
SBS box).
>>
>> --
>> Javier [SBS MVP]
>>
>> << SBS ROCKS!!! >>
>>
>
>
>.
>

Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Javier

Javier
Mon Jul 12 14:14:50 CDT 2004

Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure you need 2 licenses in that scenario....
unless you completely uninstall it from the laptop.

--
Javier [SBS MVP]

<< SBS ROCKS!!! >>

"Mark" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2b34c01c46843$7b5608f0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Thanks again javier
>
> What about if a laptop user that has Office 2003
> installed on his laptop locally connects to the TS and
> uses Office 2003 on TS. Does he still need an additional
> licence or does the locally installed licence cover it?
> The situation is that the remote users occasionally need
> to access a large file on the shared drive and over a
> standard VPN connection it is very slow to download so it
> has been suggested that they connect to a TS session when
> connected to the VPN and view the file that way but if
> you need to get 2 licences for each user then thats not
> viable!!
> Thanks for all your other info, it's of great help
>
> Mark
>>-----Original Message-----
>>One more thing which might be important...
>>
>>I don't know how older versions of Office work under
> TS... but I believe
>>that with Office XP and 2k3 you are required to have
> Open License media to
>>install. Retail media won't work, and OEM is certainly
> not allowed.
>>
>>--
>>Javier [SBS MVP]
>>
>><< SBS ROCKS!!! >>
>>
>>"Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]"
> <javier_gomez@REMOVE.THIS.engineer.com> wrote in
>>message news:ucECz9DaEHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> Can I install two different versions of office and
> make
>>>> it available to different users?
>>>
>>> I have little experience with that scenario, so I will
> let somebody else
>>> answer that question.
>>>
>>>> It;s just that instead of purchasing additional
> licences,
>>>> I will probably uninstall Office on the users that
> need
>>>> to use TS and use the licences there.
>>>
>>> If I were you... I would use downgrade rights and
> install the oldest
>>> version of the ones that you have availble. I don't
> know if this applies
>>> to your case, but most of the time it does. I like
> standarized software...
>>> one less thing to worry about :-)
>>>
>>>> What does the licensing server actually do?
>>>
>>> In your case-> Verifies that the computer connecting
> has Win2k or XP Pro
>>> and issue a "free" TS token to that machine. If you
> attempt to connect
>>> with a machine running other OS... it will issue a
> temp CAL (which
>>> eventually will expire and you will no longer be able
> to access the
>>> server, assuming you don't have any TS CALs available).
>>>
>>> Remember the license server should reside on a DC (the
> SBS box).
>>>
>>> --
>>> Javier [SBS MVP]
>>>
>>> << SBS ROCKS!!! >>
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>



Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Steve

Steve
Mon Jul 12 17:22:30 CDT 2004

Mark wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I am currently trying to implement TS and I have a couple
> of questions that I am unable to find the answers to!
>
> Question 1
> All our clients are XP so I know we don't need any TS
> licences but do I still need to install a Licensing
> Server?

TS Server always requires a Licensing server.

And you might need TS CALs for those XP machines - if you're deploying
WS2003 TS, then it depends on when the XP machines were deployed (they
need to be prior to April XX 2003 to include a TS2003 CAL - the date
WS2003 shipped basically).

>
> Question 2
> I want to run Office 2003 on the TS and have succesfully
> installed it and used it on a clients session. Do I need
> to purchase any additional licences for Office 2003?

The TS Server requires Office licences, one per session, if Office is
installed on the TS server.

>
> Question 3
> Users are going to be remotely acccessing TS via a VPN.
> Is there anything I need to do in relation to that?

No.

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
---------------------------------------
MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.

Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Mike

Mike
Tue Jul 13 05:53:16 CDT 2004

From a Microsoft document covering FAQs on Office in TS environment:

"Scenario 4:

A customer has portable computers that already have Office XP licensed and
installed on them. The users of these portable computers occasionally
connect to a terminal server to run Office remotely while they are using a
dial-up connection. The customer does not need to acquire any more Office
licenses in this case; the devices are already licensed to run Office. It
does not matter whether Office is run locally or remotely on a terminal
server."



Try as I might, I couldn't find that document again, which is a real pity as
it's very useful.



HTH,

Mike.





"Mark" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2b34c01c46843$7b5608f0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Thanks again javier
>
> What about if a laptop user that has Office 2003
> installed on his laptop locally connects to the TS and
> uses Office 2003 on TS. Does he still need an additional
> licence or does the locally installed licence cover it?
> The situation is that the remote users occasionally need
> to access a large file on the shared drive and over a
> standard VPN connection it is very slow to download so it
> has been suggested that they connect to a TS session when
> connected to the VPN and view the file that way but if
> you need to get 2 licences for each user then thats not
> viable!!
> Thanks for all your other info, it's of great help
>
> Mark
> >-----Original Message-----
> >One more thing which might be important...
> >
> >I don't know how older versions of Office work under
> TS... but I believe
> >that with Office XP and 2k3 you are required to have
> Open License media to
> >install. Retail media won't work, and OEM is certainly
> not allowed.
> >
> >--
> >Javier [SBS MVP]
> >
> ><< SBS ROCKS!!! >>
> >
> >"Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]"
> <javier_gomez@REMOVE.THIS.engineer.com> wrote in
> >message news:ucECz9DaEHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >>> Can I install two different versions of office and
> make
> >>> it available to different users?
> >>
> >> I have little experience with that scenario, so I will
> let somebody else
> >> answer that question.
> >>
> >>> It;s just that instead of purchasing additional
> licences,
> >>> I will probably uninstall Office on the users that
> need
> >>> to use TS and use the licences there.
> >>
> >> If I were you... I would use downgrade rights and
> install the oldest
> >> version of the ones that you have availble. I don't
> know if this applies
> >> to your case, but most of the time it does. I like
> standarized software...
> >> one less thing to worry about :-)
> >>
> >>> What does the licensing server actually do?
> >>
> >> In your case-> Verifies that the computer connecting
> has Win2k or XP Pro
> >> and issue a "free" TS token to that machine. If you
> attempt to connect
> >> with a machine running other OS... it will issue a
> temp CAL (which
> >> eventually will expire and you will no longer be able
> to access the
> >> server, assuming you don't have any TS CALs available).
> >>
> >> Remember the license server should reside on a DC (the
> SBS box).
> >>
> >> --
> >> Javier [SBS MVP]
> >>
> >> << SBS ROCKS!!! >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >



Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Dennis

Dennis
Tue Jul 13 07:31:05 CDT 2004

Does this apply to desktops, too? If a desktop has an OEM office license,
you don't need an office license on your Terminal Server?

"Mike" <test@test.com> schreef in bericht
news:%23AuDVeMaEHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> From a Microsoft document covering FAQs on Office in TS environment:
>
> "Scenario 4:
>
> A customer has portable computers that already have Office XP licensed and
> installed on them. The users of these portable computers occasionally
> connect to a terminal server to run Office remotely while they are using a
> dial-up connection. The customer does not need to acquire any more Office
> licenses in this case; the devices are already licensed to run Office. It
> does not matter whether Office is run locally or remotely on a terminal
> server."
>
>
>
> Try as I might, I couldn't find that document again, which is a real pity
as
> it's very useful.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Mike.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Mark" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2b34c01c46843$7b5608f0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> > Thanks again javier
> >
> > What about if a laptop user that has Office 2003
> > installed on his laptop locally connects to the TS and
> > uses Office 2003 on TS. Does he still need an additional
> > licence or does the locally installed licence cover it?
> > The situation is that the remote users occasionally need
> > to access a large file on the shared drive and over a
> > standard VPN connection it is very slow to download so it
> > has been suggested that they connect to a TS session when
> > connected to the VPN and view the file that way but if
> > you need to get 2 licences for each user then thats not
> > viable!!
> > Thanks for all your other info, it's of great help
> >
> > Mark
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >One more thing which might be important...
> > >
> > >I don't know how older versions of Office work under
> > TS... but I believe
> > >that with Office XP and 2k3 you are required to have
> > Open License media to
> > >install. Retail media won't work, and OEM is certainly
> > not allowed.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Javier [SBS MVP]
> > >
> > ><< SBS ROCKS!!! >>
> > >
> > >"Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]"
> > <javier_gomez@REMOVE.THIS.engineer.com> wrote in
> > >message news:ucECz9DaEHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > >>> Can I install two different versions of office and
> > make
> > >>> it available to different users?
> > >>
> > >> I have little experience with that scenario, so I will
> > let somebody else
> > >> answer that question.
> > >>
> > >>> It;s just that instead of purchasing additional
> > licences,
> > >>> I will probably uninstall Office on the users that
> > need
> > >>> to use TS and use the licences there.
> > >>
> > >> If I were you... I would use downgrade rights and
> > install the oldest
> > >> version of the ones that you have availble. I don't
> > know if this applies
> > >> to your case, but most of the time it does. I like
> > standarized software...
> > >> one less thing to worry about :-)
> > >>
> > >>> What does the licensing server actually do?
> > >>
> > >> In your case-> Verifies that the computer connecting
> > has Win2k or XP Pro
> > >> and issue a "free" TS token to that machine. If you
> > attempt to connect
> > >> with a machine running other OS... it will issue a
> > temp CAL (which
> > >> eventually will expire and you will no longer be able
> > to access the
> > >> server, assuming you don't have any TS CALs available).
> > >>
> > >> Remember the license server should reside on a DC (the
> > SBS box).
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Javier [SBS MVP]
> > >>
> > >> << SBS ROCKS!!! >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>



Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Steve

Steve
Tue Jul 13 14:21:12 CDT 2004

Dennis Mutsaers wrote:

> Does this apply to desktops, too? If a desktop has an OEM office
> license, you don't need an office license on your Terminal Server?
>

It would be helpful if Mike could find the original URL (I'm sure Susan
will be able to help <eg>), but it looks like that may be relying on
secondary use rights in Office XP ("occasional use"), on which basis
regular use from a desktop would not qualify.

Bottom line - you probably need to double check this with MS Licensing
to be sure.

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
---------------------------------------
MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.

Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Mike

Mike
Wed Jul 14 07:32:52 CDT 2004

I tried searching on pieces of text from the contents of the document on the
search page at Microsoft but I cannot find it. I remember I was emailed the
link so I will search my old emails and post if I find it.

Mike.

"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xn0dkqb39eb9xcj00p@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Dennis Mutsaers wrote:
>
> > Does this apply to desktops, too? If a desktop has an OEM office
> > license, you don't need an office license on your Terminal Server?
> >
>
> It would be helpful if Mike could find the original URL (I'm sure Susan
> will be able to help <eg>), but it looks like that may be relying on
> secondary use rights in Office XP ("occasional use"), on which basis
> regular use from a desktop would not qualify.
>
> Bottom line - you probably need to double check this with MS Licensing
> to be sure.
>
> --
> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> ---------------------------------------
> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.



Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Mark

Mark
Wed Jul 14 18:11:08 CDT 2004

I disagree with the VPN. Being a TS master, I would set TS to high
encryption and use that ONLY. You WILL have more problems with security
using a VPN as it is not true SBC and opening a possible security hole.

--
Sincerely,
Mark Mancini, CCA, CCNA, Master CIW&CI, CNE 4&5, MCSE+I 4&2000
www.MCSE2000.com
www.AppLauncher.com



"Mark" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2bdde01c46830$27c86560$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi all
>
> I am currently trying to implement TS and I have a couple
> of questions that I am unable to find the answers to!
>
> Question 1
> All our clients are XP so I know we don't need any TS
> licences but do I still need to install a Licensing
> Server?
>
> Question 2
> I want to run Office 2003 on the TS and have succesfully
> installed it and used it on a clients session. Do I need
> to purchase any additional licences for Office 2003?
>
> Question 3
> Users are going to be remotely acccessing TS via a VPN.
> Is there anything I need to do in relation to that?
>
> thanks for any assitance you can provide
>
> Mark



Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Mike

Mike
Thu Jul 15 02:57:16 CDT 2004

Found it! I still don't know why it doesn't come back on a search, though:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/licensoffice.asp

HTH
Mike.


"Mike" <test@test.com> wrote in message
news:OHCAv6ZaEHA.972@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I tried searching on pieces of text from the contents of the document on
the
> search page at Microsoft but I cannot find it. I remember I was emailed
the
> link so I will search my old emails and post if I find it.
>
> Mike.
>
> "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:xn0dkqb39eb9xcj00p@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > Dennis Mutsaers wrote:
> >
> > > Does this apply to desktops, too? If a desktop has an OEM office
> > > license, you don't need an office license on your Terminal Server?
> > >
> >
> > It would be helpful if Mike could find the original URL (I'm sure Susan
> > will be able to help <eg>), but it looks like that may be relying on
> > secondary use rights in Office XP ("occasional use"), on which basis
> > regular use from a desktop would not qualify.
> >
> > Bottom line - you probably need to double check this with MS Licensing
> > to be sure.
> >
> > --
> > Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> > ---------------------------------------
> > MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
>
>



Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Javier

Javier
Thu Jul 15 07:25:05 CDT 2004

Wow... very interesting article. Thanks for the heads up Mike!

[This goes to my list of helpful links]

Cheers,

--
Javier [SBS MVP]

<< SBS ROCKS !!! >>

"Mike" <test@test.com> wrote in message
news:uP6uYFkaEHA.3508@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Found it! I still don't know why it doesn't come back on a search, though:
>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/licensoffice.asp
>
> HTH
> Mike.
>
>
> "Mike" <test@test.com> wrote in message
> news:OHCAv6ZaEHA.972@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I tried searching on pieces of text from the contents of the document on
> the
> > search page at Microsoft but I cannot find it. I remember I was emailed
> the
> > link so I will search my old emails and post if I find it.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> > "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:xn0dkqb39eb9xcj00p@msnews.microsoft.com...
> > > Dennis Mutsaers wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does this apply to desktops, too? If a desktop has an OEM office
> > > > license, you don't need an office license on your Terminal Server?
> > > >
> > >
> > > It would be helpful if Mike could find the original URL (I'm sure
Susan
> > > will be able to help <eg>), but it looks like that may be relying on
> > > secondary use rights in Office XP ("occasional use"), on which basis
> > > regular use from a desktop would not qualify.
> > >
> > > Bottom line - you probably need to double check this with MS Licensing
> > > to be sure.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> > > ---------------------------------------
> > > MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Terminal Services Burning Questions!! by Chad

Chad
Thu Jul 15 10:39:53 CDT 2004

Consider that this is a Win2k document, and there have been some licensing
changes with Win2k3 TS, I'd be interested to see if this holds true for
Win2k3 TS . . .

--

Chad A. Gross - SBS MVP
SBS ROCKS!

www.msmvps.com/cgross
www.gosbs.org


Javier Gomez [SBS MVP] wrote:
> Wow... very interesting article. Thanks for the heads up Mike!
>
> [This goes to my list of helpful links]
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> "Mike" <test@test.com> wrote in message
> news:uP6uYFkaEHA.3508@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Found it! I still don't know why it doesn't come back on a search,
>> though:
>>
>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/howtobuy/pricing/licensoffice.asp
>>
>> HTH
>> Mike.
>>
>>
>> "Mike" <test@test.com> wrote in message
>> news:OHCAv6ZaEHA.972@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> I tried searching on pieces of text from the contents of the
>>> document on the search page at Microsoft but I cannot find it. I
>>> remember I was emailed the link so I will search my old emails and
>>> post if I find it.
>>>
>>> Mike.
>>>
>>> "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in
>>> message news:xn0dkqb39eb9xcj00p@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>> Dennis Mutsaers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does this apply to desktops, too? If a desktop has an OEM office
>>>>> license, you don't need an office license on your Terminal Server?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It would be helpful if Mike could find the original URL (I'm sure
> Susan
>>>> will be able to help <eg>), but it looks like that may be relying
>>>> on secondary use rights in Office XP ("occasional use"), on which
>>>> basis regular use from a desktop would not qualify.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line - you probably need to double check this with MS
>>>> Licensing to be sure.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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