SBS 2000 Terminal Service Licencing

Hello,

Currently I'm using a SBS 2000 sever with Terminal Services on it and
running in application mode. Since I need 5 users to connect to it. I was
wondering about the TS cals issue. I can currently connect 2
users/workstations to the TS server. The other 3 users can't connect. I was
wondering do I need to buy addition TS cals? The reason I ask is that I had
thought that SBS 2000 had included 5 remote access TS cals in its package.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Steve
Thu Nov 15 06:02:14 PST 2007

Eric wrote:

>Currently I'm using a SBS 2000 sever with Terminal Services on it and
>running in application mode. Since I need 5 users to connect to it. I was
>wondering about the TS cals issue. I can currently connect 2
>users/workstations to the TS server. The other 3 users can't connect. I was
>wondering do I need to buy addition TS cals? The reason I ask is that I
>had
>thought that SBS 2000 had included 5 remote access TS cals in its package.

SBS is not intended for use as a TS server, so much so that the ability to
set it up as such has been removed in SBS2003.

No TS CALs have ever been included with SBS. You've been able to make 2
connections because Windows Server allows for 2 connections for
administrative purposes without requiring CALs.

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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Eric
Thu Nov 15 18:13:00 PST 2007

Hello,

Thank you for your reply. However, there is something I'd would like to
understand more clearly. When I first installed the SBS 2000, not knowing
only 2 administration cals could connect to the TS, I had connected all 5 of
my users to remote access using the Terminal services in application mode,
each with it's own login and all of them connected and used there own desktop
simutaneously. Then about 3 monthes in, the remaining 3 users could not
connect. It had prompted me previously that my terminal services temporty
client license will expire in 6 days. With this, I assumed that since it was
possible to connect all 5 users once, It would just be a license issue. That
it would somehow be possible to connect them. Do you know of any way possible
to have all 5 users connect to a single server?

"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" wrote:

> Eric wrote:
>
> >Currently I'm using a SBS 2000 sever with Terminal Services on it and
> >running in application mode. Since I need 5 users to connect to it. I was
> >wondering about the TS cals issue. I can currently connect 2
> >users/workstations to the TS server. The other 3 users can't connect. I was
> >wondering do I need to buy addition TS cals? The reason I ask is that I
> >had
> >thought that SBS 2000 had included 5 remote access TS cals in its package.
>
> SBS is not intended for use as a TS server, so much so that the ability to
> set it up as such has been removed in SBS2003.
>
> No TS CALs have ever been included with SBS. You've been able to make 2
> connections because Windows Server allows for 2 connections for
> administrative purposes without requiring CALs.
>
> --
> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> ---------------------------------------
> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
>

Eric
Thu Nov 15 18:14:03 PST 2007


Hello,

Thank you for your reply. However, there is something I'd would like to
understand more clearly. When I first installed the SBS 2000, not knowing
only 2 administration cals could connect to the TS, I had connected all 5 of
my users to remote access using the Terminal services in application mode,
each with it's own login and all of them connected and used there own desktop
simutaneously. Then about 3 monthes in, the remaining 3 users could not
connect. It had prompted me previously that my terminal services temporty
client license will expire in 6 days. With this, I assumed that since it was
possible to connect all 5 users once, It would just be a license issue. That
it would somehow be possible to connect them. Do you know of any way possible
to have all 5 users connect to a single server?

Thank you again.

Regards,

"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" wrote:

> Eric wrote:
>
> >Currently I'm using a SBS 2000 sever with Terminal Services on it and
> >running in application mode. Since I need 5 users to connect to it. I was
> >wondering about the TS cals issue. I can currently connect 2
> >users/workstations to the TS server. The other 3 users can't connect. I was
> >wondering do I need to buy addition TS cals? The reason I ask is that I
> >had
> >thought that SBS 2000 had included 5 remote access TS cals in its package.
>
> SBS is not intended for use as a TS server, so much so that the ability to
> set it up as such has been removed in SBS2003.
>
> No TS CALs have ever been included with SBS. You've been able to make 2
> connections because Windows Server allows for 2 connections for
> administrative purposes without requiring CALs.
>
> --
> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> ---------------------------------------
> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
>

SuperGumby
Fri Nov 16 14:01:55 PST 2007

Yes, it's _possible_ to add TS licensing to SBS2000. It's also a really dumb
idea to run your primary business resource as a TS Apps mode server.

Got Outlook installed for each user? Outlook should not be installed on an
Exchange Server.
What permisssion level are you running those users at, on your DC?
Using ISA? Users running on your firewall is another bad idea.

As Steve suggests, running SBS in TS Apps mode was such a bad idea MS
completely blocked the possibility in SBS2003.

"Eric" <Eric@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FE7974B2-0948-4517-B48B-962ED2A0A095@microsoft.com...
> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your reply. However, there is something I'd would like to
> understand more clearly. When I first installed the SBS 2000, not knowing
> only 2 administration cals could connect to the TS, I had connected all 5
> of
> my users to remote access using the Terminal services in application mode,
> each with it's own login and all of them connected and used there own
> desktop
> simutaneously. Then about 3 monthes in, the remaining 3 users could not
> connect. It had prompted me previously that my terminal services temporty
> client license will expire in 6 days. With this, I assumed that since it
> was
> possible to connect all 5 users once, It would just be a license issue.
> That
> it would somehow be possible to connect them. Do you know of any way
> possible
> to have all 5 users connect to a single server?
>
> "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Eric wrote:
>>
>> >Currently I'm using a SBS 2000 sever with Terminal Services on it and
>> >running in application mode. Since I need 5 users to connect to it. I
>> >was
>> >wondering about the TS cals issue. I can currently connect 2
>> >users/workstations to the TS server. The other 3 users can't connect. I
>> >was
>> >wondering do I need to buy addition TS cals? The reason I ask is that I
>> >had
>> >thought that SBS 2000 had included 5 remote access TS cals in its
>> >package.
>>
>> SBS is not intended for use as a TS server, so much so that the ability
>> to
>> set it up as such has been removed in SBS2003.
>>
>> No TS CALs have ever been included with SBS. You've been able to make 2
>> connections because Windows Server allows for 2 connections for
>> administrative purposes without requiring CALs.
>>
>> --
>> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
>> ---------------------------------------
>> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.
>>

Steve
Mon Nov 19 04:59:59 PST 2007

Eric wrote:

>Hello,
>
>Thank you for your reply. However, there is something I'd would like to
>understand more clearly. When I first installed the SBS 2000, not knowing
>only 2 administration cals could connect to the TS, I had connected all 5
>of
>my users to remote access using the Terminal services in application mode,
>each with it's own login and all of them connected and used there own
>desktop
>simutaneously. Then about 3 monthes in, the remaining 3 users could not
>connect. It had prompted me previously that my terminal services temporty
>client license will expire in 6 days. With this, I assumed that since it
>was
>possible to connect all 5 users once, It would just be a license issue.
>That
>it would somehow be possible to connect them. Do you know of any way
>possible
>to have all 5 users connect to a single server?

When you first set up a TS server, you get a grace period to set up the
necessary licensing. You didn't do so, and the grace period expired. So
now you're back to the core 2 administrative sessions. You won't get more
connected until the licensing is set up properly.

This is standard TS Server stuff that always has to be done. It's not
something SBS-related.

Running TS/Apps Mode on SBS is a really bad idea when you know what you're
doing (ie have experience with TS). As you appear to not have this
standard TS knowledge, it's even riskier.

You really should get a separate server for your TS needs, and have it set
up for you by a consultant experienced with TS.

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
---------------------------------------
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