Hello all,

I'll be gals when this TServer is in and done. One (with many parts) more
question.

If I use Windows 2003 Server do I need to purchase TS licences for W2K
clients? I know that XP and W2K do NOT need TS licences for Windows 2000
Server.

How much are TS licences? I read a post suggesting that If I buy Windows
2003 Server I can install Windows 2000 Server from my existing SBS disks and
use the 2003 Server licence to cover it, is this true?

M

Re: TSServer Licence needs by Merv

Merv
Sat Sep 27 19:34:12 CDT 2003

I believe this has been one of the biggest impediments to using Win2K3 with
TS2003 in an SBS 2000 environment. I still recommend using Windows 2000
with TS2000 instead.

TS2000 let's Win2k Pro and WinXP Pro clients grab a license from its "free"
pool of licenses. Win9X, WinMe and WinXP Home Edition require a TS2000 CAL.
The SBS CALs cover the Win2K server CALs for the TS2000 server.

Assuming no Software Assurance is in play, TS2003 requires that ALL
connecting users (or devices, depending on how you chose to license it) buy
licenses including Win2K, WinXP Pro and all other OS. Now, it does
grandfather all WinXP Pro workstations you had in service prior to the
launch of Win2K3 server (April 2003). However, you also need separate
Win2K3 server CALs in addition to the TS server CALs since the SBS 2000 CAL
does not cover clients accessing a Win2K3 server.

Each TS2003 CAL can cost $100-130. Win2K3 server CALs run about $30-35
each.

Bottom line, your money may be better spent on upgrading Win9x, WinMe, Win
XP Home Edition workstations to Win2K Pro or WinXP Pro and then buying
Windows 2000 server and using TS 2000 in your SBS 2000 environment.

--
Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
===================================
"Maureen" <nosend2me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#28LUzUhDHA.3324@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hello all,
>
> I'll be gals when this TServer is in and done. One (with many parts) more
> question.
>
> If I use Windows 2003 Server do I need to purchase TS licences for W2K
> clients? I know that XP and W2K do NOT need TS licences for Windows 2000
> Server.
>
> How much are TS licences? I read a post suggesting that If I buy Windows
> 2003 Server I can install Windows 2000 Server from my existing SBS disks
and
> use the 2003 Server licence to cover it, is this true?
>
> M
>
>



Re: TSServer Licence needs by Javier

Javier
Sat Sep 27 22:44:22 CDT 2003

To add something to Merv's comments...

If you purchase Win2k3 Server you can use your "downgrade rights" and
install Win2k Server as you mentioned. However, you cannot use the SBS disks
for this purposes... and you will need to get Win2k media for it (which I
believe is under $25).

This option makes sense if you plan to upgrade to SBS2k3 in the future, were
we expect to be able to use Win2k3 member servers without buying CALs for
them. Moreover, if all of your TS workstations have: Win XP pro with SA or
purchased it before April 2003... then you are totally covered (just like
Win2k Srv).

--
-Javier

<< SBS ROCKS !!! >>

"Merv Porter" <mwport@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23jvArgVhDHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I believe this has been one of the biggest impediments to using Win2K3
with
> TS2003 in an SBS 2000 environment. I still recommend using Windows 2000
> with TS2000 instead.
>
> TS2000 let's Win2k Pro and WinXP Pro clients grab a license from its
"free"
> pool of licenses. Win9X, WinMe and WinXP Home Edition require a TS2000
CAL.
> The SBS CALs cover the Win2K server CALs for the TS2000 server.
>
> Assuming no Software Assurance is in play, TS2003 requires that ALL
> connecting users (or devices, depending on how you chose to license it)
buy
> licenses including Win2K, WinXP Pro and all other OS. Now, it does
> grandfather all WinXP Pro workstations you had in service prior to the
> launch of Win2K3 server (April 2003). However, you also need separate
> Win2K3 server CALs in addition to the TS server CALs since the SBS 2000
CAL
> does not cover clients accessing a Win2K3 server.
>
> Each TS2003 CAL can cost $100-130. Win2K3 server CALs run about $30-35
> each.
>
> Bottom line, your money may be better spent on upgrading Win9x, WinMe, Win
> XP Home Edition workstations to Win2K Pro or WinXP Pro and then buying
> Windows 2000 server and using TS 2000 in your SBS 2000 environment.
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
> ===================================
> "Maureen" <nosend2me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:#28LUzUhDHA.3324@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I'll be gals when this TServer is in and done. One (with many parts)
more
> > question.
> >
> > If I use Windows 2003 Server do I need to purchase TS licences for W2K
> > clients? I know that XP and W2K do NOT need TS licences for Windows 2000
> > Server.
> >
> > How much are TS licences? I read a post suggesting that If I buy Windows
> > 2003 Server I can install Windows 2000 Server from my existing SBS disks
> and
> > use the 2003 Server licence to cover it, is this true?
> >
> > M
> >
> >
>
>



Re: TSServer Licence needs by Maureen

Maureen
Sat Sep 27 23:01:42 CDT 2003

Thanks both for confirming. My current set-up is 1 XP (after April '03) 6
W2K and 3 NT4 (2 will be upgraded and one will not use TServer. I can see
that it makes sense to buy Win 2K3 Server + Disk for Win2K Server and use it
for the time being. I am sure at some point in the future as budget allows
we will consider going to SBS2K3

M

"Javier Gomez" <javier_gomez@remove.this.bit.engineer.com> wrote in message
news:OFDFMLXhDHA.3868@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> To add something to Merv's comments...
>
> If you purchase Win2k3 Server you can use your "downgrade rights" and
> install Win2k Server as you mentioned. However, you cannot use the SBS
disks
> for this purposes... and you will need to get Win2k media for it (which I
> believe is under $25).
>
> This option makes sense if you plan to upgrade to SBS2k3 in the future,
were
> we expect to be able to use Win2k3 member servers without buying CALs for
> them. Moreover, if all of your TS workstations have: Win XP pro with SA or
> purchased it before April 2003... then you are totally covered (just like
> Win2k Srv).
>
> --
> -Javier
>
> << SBS ROCKS !!! >>
>
> "Merv Porter" <mwport@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23jvArgVhDHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I believe this has been one of the biggest impediments to using Win2K3
> with
> > TS2003 in an SBS 2000 environment. I still recommend using Windows 2000
> > with TS2000 instead.
> >
> > TS2000 let's Win2k Pro and WinXP Pro clients grab a license from its
> "free"
> > pool of licenses. Win9X, WinMe and WinXP Home Edition require a TS2000
> CAL.
> > The SBS CALs cover the Win2K server CALs for the TS2000 server.
> >
> > Assuming no Software Assurance is in play, TS2003 requires that ALL
> > connecting users (or devices, depending on how you chose to license it)
> buy
> > licenses including Win2K, WinXP Pro and all other OS. Now, it does
> > grandfather all WinXP Pro workstations you had in service prior to the
> > launch of Win2K3 server (April 2003). However, you also need separate
> > Win2K3 server CALs in addition to the TS server CALs since the SBS 2000
> CAL
> > does not cover clients accessing a Win2K3 server.
> >
> > Each TS2003 CAL can cost $100-130. Win2K3 server CALs run about $30-35
> > each.
> >
> > Bottom line, your money may be better spent on upgrading Win9x, WinMe,
Win
> > XP Home Edition workstations to Win2K Pro or WinXP Pro and then buying
> > Windows 2000 server and using TS 2000 in your SBS 2000 environment.
> >
> > --
> > Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
> > ===================================
> > "Maureen" <nosend2me@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:#28LUzUhDHA.3324@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I'll be gals when this TServer is in and done. One (with many parts)
> more
> > > question.
> > >
> > > If I use Windows 2003 Server do I need to purchase TS licences for W2K
> > > clients? I know that XP and W2K do NOT need TS licences for Windows
2000
> > > Server.
> > >
> > > How much are TS licences? I read a post suggesting that If I buy
Windows
> > > 2003 Server I can install Windows 2000 Server from my existing SBS
disks
> > and
> > > use the 2003 Server licence to cover it, is this true?
> > >
> > > M
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>