Slow starting SBS, no exchange

Recently built SBS2000 (sp3)
P4 (2,4)
1024 MB ram
120 GB (2x RAID1) on Promise 4000 (PCI)
SIS network adapter (on mainboard) for EXT (router)
3com network adapter (PCI) for LAN int.
UPS
Onstream IDE (on sec IDE) tape backup
Pioneer DVD/CD player
Video on mainboard.
External USB modem for sending fax.
NO other software than SBS and Mcafee Groupshield.

The SBS starts slow (more than 10 minutes) and Exchange is
NOT started (ofcourse mcafee Groupshield also not)
Manual start of Exchange AFTERWARDS, no problem.

Any ideas
Thanks, Harpert

Scott
Fri Sep 19 10:01:52 CDT 2003

I have a similar problem if I login too early during boot up. If I wait
until the disks stop grinding and then login, all services are OK. However,
comparing servers, spec is lower than yours.

Scott

"harpert" <pleasenomail@mail.com> wrote in message
news:0a1201c37ebc$ca7f07e0$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> Recently built SBS2000 (sp3)
> P4 (2,4)
> 1024 MB ram
> 120 GB (2x RAID1) on Promise 4000 (PCI)
> SIS network adapter (on mainboard) for EXT (router)
> 3com network adapter (PCI) for LAN int.
> UPS
> Onstream IDE (on sec IDE) tape backup
> Pioneer DVD/CD player
> Video on mainboard.
> External USB modem for sending fax.
> NO other software than SBS and Mcafee Groupshield.
>
> The SBS starts slow (more than 10 minutes) and Exchange is
> NOT started (ofcourse mcafee Groupshield also not)
> Manual start of Exchange AFTERWARDS, no problem.
>
> Any ideas
> Thanks, Harpert

Merv
Fri Sep 19 10:11:45 CDT 2003

Binding order of NICs?
DNS set up properly?
Network Setup correct?
http://www.smallbizserver.net/sbs2000/network.aspx

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Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
===================================
"harpert" <pleasenomail@mail.com> wrote in message
news:0a1201c37ebc$ca7f07e0$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> Recently built SBS2000 (sp3)
> P4 (2,4)
> 1024 MB ram
> 120 GB (2x RAID1) on Promise 4000 (PCI)
> SIS network adapter (on mainboard) for EXT (router)
> 3com network adapter (PCI) for LAN int.
> UPS
> Onstream IDE (on sec IDE) tape backup
> Pioneer DVD/CD player
> Video on mainboard.
> External USB modem for sending fax.
> NO other software than SBS and Mcafee Groupshield.
>
> The SBS starts slow (more than 10 minutes) and Exchange is
> NOT started (ofcourse mcafee Groupshield also not)
> Manual start of Exchange AFTERWARDS, no problem.
>
> Any ideas
> Thanks, Harpert

Les
Fri Sep 19 10:17:02 CDT 2003

Hi Harpert,

I *think* you're saying Exchange is set to automatic start, but doesn't. You
should have some events logged, posting those would certainly help.

Anyway.

10 minutes does seem a bit slow, considering your hardware.

Things to check:

a) check binding order of nics', internal first, external second.

If that's not the problem:

b) set your antivirus product services to start manually.

If that makes a difference, then check to ensure that the exclusions are set
correctly. (there's a kb article).

--
Les Connor [SBS MVP]
-------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !



"harpert" <pleasenomail@mail.com> wrote in message
news:0a1201c37ebc$ca7f07e0$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> Recently built SBS2000 (sp3)
> P4 (2,4)
> 1024 MB ram
> 120 GB (2x RAID1) on Promise 4000 (PCI)
> SIS network adapter (on mainboard) for EXT (router)
> 3com network adapter (PCI) for LAN int.
> UPS
> Onstream IDE (on sec IDE) tape backup
> Pioneer DVD/CD player
> Video on mainboard.
> External USB modem for sending fax.
> NO other software than SBS and Mcafee Groupshield.
>
> The SBS starts slow (more than 10 minutes) and Exchange is
> NOT started (ofcourse mcafee Groupshield also not)
> Manual start of Exchange AFTERWARDS, no problem.
>
> Any ideas
> Thanks, Harpert

harpert
Fri Sep 19 10:23:37 CDT 2003

Network Binding OK
first Internal
than external
Than RAS

DNS.... please give me an example

What could be wrong in the NETWORK setup?

Harpert




"Merv Porter" <mwport@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:uJ44EBsfDHA.556@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Binding order of NICs?
> DNS set up properly?
> Network Setup correct?
> http://www.smallbizserver.net/sbs2000/network.aspx
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
> ===================================
> "harpert" <pleasenomail@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:0a1201c37ebc$ca7f07e0$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> > Recently built SBS2000 (sp3)
> > P4 (2,4)
> > 1024 MB ram
> > 120 GB (2x RAID1) on Promise 4000 (PCI)
> > SIS network adapter (on mainboard) for EXT (router)
> > 3com network adapter (PCI) for LAN int.
> > UPS
> > Onstream IDE (on sec IDE) tape backup
> > Pioneer DVD/CD player
> > Video on mainboard.
> > External USB modem for sending fax.
> > NO other software than SBS and Mcafee Groupshield.
> >
> > The SBS starts slow (more than 10 minutes) and Exchange is
> > NOT started (ofcourse mcafee Groupshield also not)
> > Manual start of Exchange AFTERWARDS, no problem.
> >
> > Any ideas
> > Thanks, Harpert
>
>

harpert
Fri Sep 19 10:24:40 CDT 2003

Which exclusions????

I do not know what you mean here....


"Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <les.connor@cfiveDEL.ca> schreef in bericht
news:eHidVEsfDHA.2152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi Harpert,
>
> I *think* you're saying Exchange is set to automatic start, but doesn't.
You
> should have some events logged, posting those would certainly help.
>
> Anyway.
>
> 10 minutes does seem a bit slow, considering your hardware.
>
> Things to check:
>
> a) check binding order of nics', internal first, external second.
>
> If that's not the problem:
>
> b) set your antivirus product services to start manually.
>
> If that makes a difference, then check to ensure that the exclusions are
set
> correctly. (there's a kb article).
>
> --
> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
> -------------------------------------
> SBS Rocks !
>
>
>
> "harpert" <pleasenomail@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:0a1201c37ebc$ca7f07e0$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> > Recently built SBS2000 (sp3)
> > P4 (2,4)
> > 1024 MB ram
> > 120 GB (2x RAID1) on Promise 4000 (PCI)
> > SIS network adapter (on mainboard) for EXT (router)
> > 3com network adapter (PCI) for LAN int.
> > UPS
> > Onstream IDE (on sec IDE) tape backup
> > Pioneer DVD/CD player
> > Video on mainboard.
> > External USB modem for sending fax.
> > NO other software than SBS and Mcafee Groupshield.
> >
> > The SBS starts slow (more than 10 minutes) and Exchange is
> > NOT started (ofcourse mcafee Groupshield also not)
> > Manual start of Exchange AFTERWARDS, no problem.
> >
> > Any ideas
> > Thanks, Harpert
>
>

Les
Fri Sep 19 10:29:46 CDT 2003

Harpert,

This kb article contains a complete discussion, as well as links to others
that detail the exclusions required.

XADM: Exchange and Antivirus Software
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;328841&Product=exch2
k

--
Les Connor [SBS MVP]
-------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !



"harpert" <pleasenomail@mail.com> wrote in message
news:uDiSSHsfDHA.368@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Which exclusions????
>
> I do not know what you mean here....
>
>
> "Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <les.connor@cfiveDEL.ca> schreef in bericht
> news:eHidVEsfDHA.2152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Harpert,
> >
> > I *think* you're saying Exchange is set to automatic start, but doesn't.
> You
> > should have some events logged, posting those would certainly help.
> >
> > Anyway.
> >
> > 10 minutes does seem a bit slow, considering your hardware.
> >
> > Things to check:
> >
> > a) check binding order of nics', internal first, external second.
> >
> > If that's not the problem:
> >
> > b) set your antivirus product services to start manually.
> >
> > If that makes a difference, then check to ensure that the exclusions are
> set
> > correctly. (there's a kb article).
> >
> > --
> > Les Connor [SBS MVP]
> > -------------------------------------
> > SBS Rocks !
> >
> >
> >
> > "harpert" <pleasenomail@mail.com> wrote in message
> > news:0a1201c37ebc$ca7f07e0$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> > > Recently built SBS2000 (sp3)
> > > P4 (2,4)
> > > 1024 MB ram
> > > 120 GB (2x RAID1) on Promise 4000 (PCI)
> > > SIS network adapter (on mainboard) for EXT (router)
> > > 3com network adapter (PCI) for LAN int.
> > > UPS
> > > Onstream IDE (on sec IDE) tape backup
> > > Pioneer DVD/CD player
> > > Video on mainboard.
> > > External USB modem for sending fax.
> > > NO other software than SBS and Mcafee Groupshield.
> > >
> > > The SBS starts slow (more than 10 minutes) and Exchange is
> > > NOT started (ofcourse mcafee Groupshield also not)
> > > Manual start of Exchange AFTERWARDS, no problem.
> > >
> > > Any ideas
> > > Thanks, Harpert
> >
> >
>
>

jimbehning
Fri Sep 19 22:14:57 CDT 2003

The nics should have their dns point to the ip of the internal nic.
You enter the isp dns numbers when runing the Internet Connection
Wizard. If your antivirus tries to scan the M: drive your server will
be quite pokey. The articles Les and others mentioned at
www.smallbizserver.net give great graphical directions.
http://www.smallbizserver.net/sbs2000/With_two_network_adapters_a_static_IP_address_ISA_and_a_router.aspx
Note that you need to find the article 292822 at support.microsoft.com
and do those edits if you ever want to vpn. Even if you do not running
the edits is a good idea.

"harpert" <pleasenomail@mail.com> wrote:

>Which exclusions????
>
>I do not know what you mean here....
>
>
>"Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <les.connor@cfiveDEL.ca> schreef in bericht
>news:eHidVEsfDHA.2152@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Harpert,
>>
>> I *think* you're saying Exchange is set to automatic start, but doesn't.
>You
>> should have some events logged, posting those would certainly help.
>>
>> Anyway.
>>
>> 10 minutes does seem a bit slow, considering your hardware.
>>
>> Things to check:
>>
>> a) check binding order of nics', internal first, external second.
>>
>> If that's not the problem:
>>
>> b) set your antivirus product services to start manually.
>>
>> If that makes a difference, then check to ensure that the exclusions are
>set
>> correctly. (there's a kb article).
>>
>> --
>> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
>> -------------------------------------
>> SBS Rocks !
>>
>>
>>
>> "harpert" <pleasenomail@mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:0a1201c37ebc$ca7f07e0$a001280a@phx.gbl...
>> > Recently built SBS2000 (sp3)
>> > P4 (2,4)
>> > 1024 MB ram
>> > 120 GB (2x RAID1) on Promise 4000 (PCI)
>> > SIS network adapter (on mainboard) for EXT (router)
>> > 3com network adapter (PCI) for LAN int.
>> > UPS
>> > Onstream IDE (on sec IDE) tape backup
>> > Pioneer DVD/CD player
>> > Video on mainboard.
>> > External USB modem for sending fax.
>> > NO other software than SBS and Mcafee Groupshield.
>> >
>> > The SBS starts slow (more than 10 minutes) and Exchange is
>> > NOT started (ofcourse mcafee Groupshield also not)
>> > Manual start of Exchange AFTERWARDS, no problem.
>> >
>> > Any ideas
>> > Thanks, Harpert
>>
>>
>

Jim B. SBS MVP