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Some more clarification please, I sent this to users and replied to the =
Group.
Can I take my NT 4BDC off the LAN so it is alone by itself, upgrade it =
to a PDC, still not connected to the network, then upgrade that to Win =
2K?
If so, how do I promote it to PDC when it isn't connected?
Can a NT 4 BDC be upgraded to a Windows 2K DC server and exist as a DC =
in an NT 4 Domain when the PDC is NT 4.0?
Does upgrading an NT 4 BDC to Win 2K automatically promote it to BDC and =
install AD during the upgrade, or is AD a seperate part of the process?
Does upgrading an NT 4 PDC to Win 2K automatically upgrade the Domain to =
AD control or is AD again a seperate process?
I tried taking it off the network but could not find how to promote it =
to PDC.
I would like to set my test server apart from the domain, and do a full =
upgrade to Win 2K and SBS 2K without it actually affecting the =
production environment, so that I can see what it does before doing the =
actual implementation.
Please add any info that you can.
Thanks,
Andrew
Is this feasible
"Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in message =
news:%23NNzaSOeDHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
To perhaps clarify what Marina is suggesting
If you have an existing NT PDC and want to go up to SBS 2000=20
Install a second server with WinNT 4.0 as a BDC to the PDC
take the PDC offline and promote the BDC
Upgrade to Windows 2000
Install SBS 2000
Hope that clears it up
--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
Please DO NOT email me directly but respond only in the newsgroup so =
that all can benefit.
"Marina Roos" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in message =
news:YJ28b.99442$506.101170@typhoon.bart.nl...
This only works when you haven't installed the sbs yet.
Naming conventions:
NT4 PDC (your PDC-server now)
SBS 2000 (your clean server without any software whatsoever)
Install the SBS 2000 as a NT4 BDC while connected to the NT4 PDC =
(remember 8
Gb is max for C-partition) with the plain vanilla NT4-server CD.
Install SP6a on it.
Disconnect the SBS 2000 from the network and put it standalone.
Install and configure DHCP and WINS.
Promote to PDC.
Now you get the SBS 2000 CD's and start with upgrading to W2000. It =
won't
hurt to connect the SBS 2000 to its own hub.
Make sure you call your active directory something like =
company.local (your
domainname you had already with .local behind it).
Install DNS-server.
After this, check your hardware for driverupdates. Don't apply any
servicepacks, so don't connect this server to the internet. Format =
the other
partitions.
Make sure that DHCP and WINS are starting automatically.
Now you can attach the SBS 2000 to your NT4 PDC. Disconnect from the
internet, disconnect clients, demote the NT4 PDC to BDC.
Start with the SBS 2000 setup, and I would suggest that you store =
the
Exchangeserver, SQL-server, Clientapps, Users and Company-folders on =
another
partition than C:.
Only after the last (5th) CD, when booting seems to go allright, and =
no
major errors, you apply the latest servicepacks to the SBS 2000.
You will have all your users, but you'll need to do some configuring =
after
all this.
Marina
"dilltech" <support@dilltech.com> schreef in bericht
news:008801c3787a$b21a30f0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Marina,
>
> I have the same situation and am a little unlcear as to
> what you are suggesting. Can you please put your response
> inf the foorm of a step by step with each server clearly
> identified.
>
> Thanks
>
> rickd
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >If you've already installed the SBS, you will have a
> problem. You can demote
> >the NT4, but it won't be a full member of the SBS-domain.
> It would be better
> >to install the SBS first as a BDC to the NT4, then take
> it off the network
> >and promote to PDC, then install SBS.
> >
> >Marina
> >
> >"James Leo" <james.leo@avecsys.com> schreef in bericht
> >news:05f801c37870$7b8ec410$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Our customer is running a network of 2PCs and one NT 4
> >> Server. The NT server is a PDC. We are replacing the
> >> server with a new one running SBS2000 Server. However,
> >> because the NT Server is running a legacy app we still
> >> need to keep it on the network. Because the SBS2000
> >> server has to be the PDC, can we demote the NT Server to
> >> become just a member server on the network?
> >> Thanks
> >
> >
> >.
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Some more clarification please, I sent =
this to=20
users and replied to the Group.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can I take my NT 4BDC off the LAN so it =
is alone by=20
itself, upgrade it to a PDC, still not connected to the network, then =
upgrade=20
that to Win 2K?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so, how do I promote it to PDC when =
it isn't=20
connected?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can a NT 4 BDC be upgraded to a Windows =
2K DC=20
server and exist as a DC in an NT 4 Domain when the PDC is NT =
4.0?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does upgrading an NT 4 BDC to Win 2K =
automatically=20
promote it to BDC and install AD during the upgrade, or is AD a seperate =
part of=20
the process?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Does upgrading an NT 4 PDC to Win 2K =
automatically=20
upgrade the Domain to AD control or is AD again a seperate=20
process?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I tried taking it off the network but =
could not=20
find how to promote it to PDC.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would like to set my test server =
apart from the=20
domain, and do a full upgrade to Win 2K and SBS 2K without it actually =
affecting=20
the production environment, so that I can see what it does before doing =
the=20
actual implementation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Please add any info that you =
can.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Andrew</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is this feasible</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:crishanna@mindspring.com">crishanna@mindspring.com</A>>=
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:%23NNzaSOeDHA.2184@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl">news:%23NNzaSOeDHA.=
2184@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To perhaps clarify what Marina is=20
suggesting</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you have an existing NT PDC and =
want to go up=20
to SBS 2000 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Install a second server with WinNT =
4.0 as a BDC=20
to the PDC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>take the PDC offline and promote the=20
BDC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Upgrade to Windows 2000</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Install SBS 2000</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hope that clears it up</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]<BR>Please DO NOT email me =
directly but=20
respond only in the newsgroup so that all can benefit.</DIV>
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BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Marina Roos" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com">marina@roos.nodontwants=
pam.nl.com</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:YJ28b.99442$506.101170@typhoon.bart.nl">news:YJ28b.99442$506=
.101170@typhoon.bart.nl</A>...</DIV>This=20
only works when you haven't installed the sbs yet.<BR>Naming=20
conventions:<BR>NT4 PDC (your PDC-server now)<BR>SBS 2000 (your =
clean server=20
without any software whatsoever)<BR><BR>Install the SBS 2000 as a =
NT4 BDC=20
while connected to the NT4 PDC (remember 8<BR>Gb is max for=20
C-partition) with the plain vanilla NT4-server CD.<BR>Install =
SP6a on=20
it.<BR>Disconnect the SBS 2000 from the network and put it=20
standalone.<BR>Install and configure DHCP and WINS.<BR>Promote to=20
PDC.<BR>Now you get the SBS 2000 CD's and start with upgrading to =
W2000. It=20
won't<BR>hurt to connect the SBS 2000 to its own hub.<BR>Make sure =
you call=20
your active directory something like company.local =
(your<BR>domainname you=20
had already with .local behind it).<BR>Install DNS-server.<BR>After =
this,=20
check your hardware for driverupdates. Don't apply =
any<BR>servicepacks, so=20
don't connect this server to the internet. Format the=20
other<BR>partitions.<BR>Make sure that DHCP and WINS are starting=20
automatically.<BR>Now you can attach the SBS 2000 to your NT4 PDC.=20
Disconnect from the<BR>internet, disconnect clients, demote the NT4 =
PDC to=20
BDC.<BR>Start with the SBS 2000 setup, and I would suggest that you =
store=20
the<BR>Exchangeserver, SQL-server, Clientapps, Users and =
Company-folders on=20
another<BR>partition than C:.<BR>Only after the last (5th) CD, when =
booting=20
seems to go allright, and no<BR>major errors, you apply the latest=20
servicepacks to the SBS 2000.<BR>You will have all your users, but =
you'll=20
need to do some configuring after<BR>all=20
this.<BR><BR>Marina<BR><BR><BR><BR>"dilltech" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:support@dilltech.com">support@dilltech.com</A>> =
schreef in=20
bericht<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:008801c3787a$b21a30f0$a301280a@phx.gbl">news:008801c3787a$b2=
1a30f0$a301280a@phx.gbl</A>...<BR>>=20
Marina,<BR>><BR>> I have the same situation and am a little =
unlcear as=20
to<BR>> what you are suggesting. Can you please put your =
response<BR>>=20
inf the foorm of a step by step with each server clearly<BR>>=20
identified.<BR>><BR>> Thanks<BR>><BR>> =
rickd<BR>><BR>>=20
>-----Original Message-----<BR>> >If you've already =
installed the=20
SBS, you will have a<BR>> problem. You can demote<BR>> >the =
NT4,=20
but it won't be a full member of the SBS-domain.<BR>> It would be =
better<BR>> >to install the SBS first as a BDC to the NT4, =
then=20
take<BR>> it off the network<BR>> >and promote to PDC, then =
install=20
SBS.<BR>> ><BR>> >Marina<BR>> ><BR>> >"James =
Leo"=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:james.leo@avecsys.com">james.leo@avecsys.com</A>>=20
schreef in bericht<BR>>=20
>news:05f801c37870$7b8ec410$a001280a@phx.gbl...<BR>> >> =
Our=20
customer is running a network of 2PCs and one NT 4<BR>> >> =
Server.=20
The NT server is a PDC. We are replacing the<BR>> >> =
server=20
with a new one running SBS2000 Server. However,<BR>> =
>>=20
because the NT Server is running a legacy app we still<BR>> =
>> need=20
to keep it on the network. Because the SBS2000<BR>> >> =
server has=20
to be the PDC, can we demote the NT Server to<BR>> >> =
become just a=20
member server on the network?<BR>> >> Thanks<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
><BR>> >.<BR>> =
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