SBS 2000 SMTP Connector to smarthost and back

We have a SBS 2K with Exchange and are using its POP3 Connector to
download our email from our ISP and route to the relevant
mailbox/user.

We have recently bought GFI MailSecurity and MailEssentials in an
attempt to filter out spam and viruses and prevent them from ever
reaching our users.

In order to do this, i need to install GFI MailSecurity on a different
server to our SBS/Exchange and have it act as a smarthost and be the
first machine to receive our email from our ISP.

I have managed to setup a different server as a smarthost, but i'm
wondering how i go about initially fetching our ISP email to our relay
server in order for MailSec to do its work? In the GFI manual
(available at http://support.gfi.com/manuals/en/msec8/msec8manual-1-21.html)
it says about setting up an SMTP Connector and pointing the MX record
of our domain to the mail relay server.

If i setup an SMTP Connector on our SBS Exchange server, will this
result in it downloading our ISP email via its POP3 connector and then
forward it to our relay server and eventually be bounced back to our
Exchange server (via the fact i've set it up as a smarthost in its IIS
SMTP settings).

I'm concerned that it might cause an infinite loop, and emails will
just bounce between the two and i'm not sure how or even if i need to
change our DNS MX record.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

Dan Williams

Javier
Thu May 20 05:28:16 CDT 2004

Hi Dan!

You need to do some changes here. I don't think you need to install GFI on a
different server (use the VS API mode)... you simply need to stop using the
POP3 connector. This way you can install it on the SBS box (I don't know of
any anti-spam programs that work with the POP3 connector).

Now the question changes to-> How do I switch from POP3 connector to SMTP?
Which this old post might help...



"Dan Williams" <dan_williams@newcross-nursing.com> wrote in message
news:2eac5d02.0405200201.15950d92@posting.google.com...
> We have a SBS 2K with Exchange and are using its POP3 Connector to
> download our email from our ISP and route to the relevant
> mailbox/user.
>
> We have recently bought GFI MailSecurity and MailEssentials in an
> attempt to filter out spam and viruses and prevent them from ever
> reaching our users.
>
> In order to do this, i need to install GFI MailSecurity on a different
> server to our SBS/Exchange and have it act as a smarthost and be the
> first machine to receive our email from our ISP.
>
> I have managed to setup a different server as a smarthost, but i'm
> wondering how i go about initially fetching our ISP email to our relay
> server in order for MailSec to do its work? In the GFI manual
> (available at
http://support.gfi.com/manuals/en/msec8/msec8manual-1-21.html)
> it says about setting up an SMTP Connector and pointing the MX record
> of our domain to the mail relay server.
>
> If i setup an SMTP Connector on our SBS Exchange server, will this
> result in it downloading our ISP email via its POP3 connector and then
> forward it to our relay server and eventually be bounced back to our
> Exchange server (via the fact i've set it up as a smarthost in its IIS
> SMTP settings).
>
> I'm concerned that it might cause an infinite loop, and emails will
> just bounce between the two and i'm not sure how or even if i need to
> change our DNS MX record.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions
>
> Dan Williams

Javier
Thu May 20 05:31:04 CDT 2004

[Sorry, I hit enter befor I finished typing]

Hi Dan!

You need to do some changes here. I don't think you need to install GFI on a
different server (use the VS API mode)... you simply need to stop using the
POP3 connector. This way you can install it on the SBS box (I don't know of
any anti-spam programs that work with the POP3 connector).

Now the question changes to-> How do I switch from POP3 connector to SMTP?
In which case this old post might help...
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&selm=OktqRUm%24DHA.2012%40TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl

--
Javier [SBS MVP]

<< SBS ROCKS !!! >>

"Dan Williams" <dan_williams@newcross-nursing.com> wrote in message
news:2eac5d02.0405200201.15950d92@posting.google.com...
> We have a SBS 2K with Exchange and are using its POP3 Connector to
> download our email from our ISP and route to the relevant
> mailbox/user.
>
> We have recently bought GFI MailSecurity and MailEssentials in an
> attempt to filter out spam and viruses and prevent them from ever
> reaching our users.
>
> In order to do this, i need to install GFI MailSecurity on a different
> server to our SBS/Exchange and have it act as a smarthost and be the
> first machine to receive our email from our ISP.
>
> I have managed to setup a different server as a smarthost, but i'm
> wondering how i go about initially fetching our ISP email to our relay
> server in order for MailSec to do its work? In the GFI manual
> (available at
http://support.gfi.com/manuals/en/msec8/msec8manual-1-21.html)
> it says about setting up an SMTP Connector and pointing the MX record
> of our domain to the mail relay server.
>
> If i setup an SMTP Connector on our SBS Exchange server, will this
> result in it downloading our ISP email via its POP3 connector and then
> forward it to our relay server and eventually be bounced back to our
> Exchange server (via the fact i've set it up as a smarthost in its IIS
> SMTP settings).
>
> I'm concerned that it might cause an infinite loop, and emails will
> just bounce between the two and i'm not sure how or even if i need to
> change our DNS MX record.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions
>
> Dan Williams

dan_williams
Thu May 20 10:35:34 CDT 2004

Hi again Javier.

Thanks for the reply.

I should have mentioned that we already have it installed in VS API
mode on our SBS server, but it won't delete whole emails in this mode.

It does strip out any viruses, etc. but replaces it with a security
text notice file and we're receiving several of those a day. In
gateway mode, apparently it gives you more options to decide what to
do with the emails (i.e. delete them)

I'll take a look at the other post and see what i can come up with.

Thanks again

Dan.


"Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]" <javier_gomez@remove.this.engineer.com> wrote in message news:<#eCLOWlPEHA.640@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>...
> [Sorry, I hit enter befor I finished typing]
>
> Hi Dan!
>
> You need to do some changes here. I don't think you need to install GFI on a
> different server (use the VS API mode)... you simply need to stop using the
> POP3 connector. This way you can install it on the SBS box (I don't know of
> any anti-spam programs that work with the POP3 connector).
>
> Now the question changes to-> How do I switch from POP3 connector to SMTP?
> In which case this old post might help...
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&selm=OktqRUm%24DHA.2012%40TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl
>
> --
> Javier [SBS MVP]
>
> << SBS ROCKS !!! >>
>

Javier
Thu May 20 11:03:22 CDT 2004

I will let somebody with GFI experience tell you exactly... but I bet that
if you are using the POP3 connector there is no way to do certain things.
Maybe that's your issue... because I have never seen somebody here (in the
SBS arena) setting a 2nd server for GFI (but maybe I'm wrong).

--
Javier [SBS MVP]

<< SBS ROCKS !!! >>

"Dan Williams" <dan_williams@newcross-nursing.com> wrote in message
news:2eac5d02.0405200735.24f7a5bd@posting.google.com...
> Hi again Javier.
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> I should have mentioned that we already have it installed in VS API
> mode on our SBS server, but it won't delete whole emails in this mode.
>
> It does strip out any viruses, etc. but replaces it with a security
> text notice file and we're receiving several of those a day. In
> gateway mode, apparently it gives you more options to decide what to
> do with the emails (i.e. delete them)
>
> I'll take a look at the other post and see what i can come up with.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Dan.
>
>
> "Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]" <javier_gomez@remove.this.engineer.com> wrote in
> message news:<#eCLOWlPEHA.640@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>...
>> [Sorry, I hit enter befor I finished typing]
>>
>> Hi Dan!
>>
>> You need to do some changes here. I don't think you need to install GFI
>> on a
>> different server (use the VS API mode)... you simply need to stop using
>> the
>> POP3 connector. This way you can install it on the SBS box (I don't know
>> of
>> any anti-spam programs that work with the POP3 connector).
>>
>> Now the question changes to-> How do I switch from POP3 connector to
>> SMTP?
>> In which case this old post might help...
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&selm=OktqRUm%24DHA.2012%40TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl
>>
>> --
>> Javier [SBS MVP]
>>
>> << SBS ROCKS !!! >>
>>

Dan
Thu May 20 15:23:42 CDT 2004

On Thu, 20 May 2004 12:03:22 -0400, Javier Gomez [SBS MVP] wrote:

We haven't purposely bought a new server to do this, we have another
hosting SQL Server so we can use that. I don't think it even has to be a
server, and it can be installed on a Windows 2000 or XP machine.

Check out this link for reasons why:-

http://kbase.gfi.com/showarticle.asp?id=KBID001428

Dan.

> I will let somebody with GFI experience tell you exactly... but I bet that
> if you are using the POP3 connector there is no way to do certain things.
> Maybe that's your issue... because I have never seen somebody here (in the
> SBS arena) setting a 2nd server for GFI (but maybe I'm wrong).