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    - SBS Domain with SQL ODBC ERROR Hi, I have SBS 2003 Domain with serveral Member Servers (mixed 2003 & 2000 SVR). I have just replaced the Server Hardware with a reinstalled SBS2003 and rejoined each of the member servers to the new domain. One of the Windows 2000 Member Servers hosts a WEB Application that connects to the SQL database on the Domain Controller. After Disjoining from the Old Server and rejoint to the new server (both old and new servers have the same server name) The Application (Crystal Enterprise 10) cant read the SQL data from the Domain Controler. If you user the OBDC Conneter to configure the OBDC Connection and test it the connectind test is OK. If you exit the ODBC and go back in just to test connection fails. We are using SQL user & Password Does any on have any idears? Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179702
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    - Can we upgrade the OEMSBS2000 to SBS2003 R2 Hi, I have OEM SBS2000 - my concern is that can I upgrade this to OEM SBS2003 R2 in to a different server PC(I would like to change the existing server PC) (I will buy a new Server PC plus the upgrade version of SBS2003 R2 - is that possible?) Kindly advise Rgds Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179698
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    - Anyone installed Thunderbird under sbs2000? Can a plain jane "User" run it? Can each user have their own profile under TB? Did you have to config user /install.....config user /execute? I ask because I was unable to run openoffice for multiple, simultaneous users. Thank you. Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179691
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    - SBS 2000 license Hi all, I have SBS2000 with me and need to add few more license, according to the vendor license no more available, is there any option? can we buy sbs2003 licene and use on top of my SBS2000? I heard sbs2003 license can only activate through internet and it is not like SBS2000 license setup from a floppy. Is there any workaround? kindly advise Rgds Anver Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179689
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    - application mode or not? Hi. Am I going nuts? Can I or can I not install sbs 2000 in application mode? I selected it during setup and have people logging on with old 98 boxes just fine. I've pasted a comment from the terminal_services group. Unless he/she was talking about sbs 2003. Thank you. > Well..... I've installed sbs in application mode so all users will be > accessing it via old computers. >>Hi - note that this is a very bad idea. You shouldn't use your SBS box as a >>terminal server.....in 2003 it won't even let you. >>The best place for SBS2000 questions is >>microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000. Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179685
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    - Multiple SMTP QUEUE Hi There. I have an SBS 2000 sever. BUT- having serious problems sending and receiving EMail. When I look at the SMTP ques there are 50 (ish) "foreign" ques - e.g. giga.net.tw - remote delivery, ms32.hinet.net . In addition when i look at the logons - I have SMTP (FE065EC7-539D-4587-87951-32BDDDFA282) . Obviously the servr has bit breached by , I think a spammer- Any advice how I can clean this up and stop it happening. Thanks for any advice Fixit Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179679
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    - IP address already in use on new install I have done about 10 SBS2003 setups over the last 18 months and have not had this issue: Dual core 3.2 4 g system memory, two nic At setup both nics are identified, one external is disconnected and one internal just connected to a switch with no other users or DHCP. Next step configures local IP address and no matter what I put in there (192.168.x.254, 255.255.255.0, 192.168.x.254 or nothing for gateway) With a gateway in I get IP address already in use, with no gateway I get invalid IP address. Help Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179671
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    - procedure for SBS 2000 to Windows 2003 plus exchange 2007 Hi all, I have a SBS 2000 with exchange 2000 in a domain, and I want to reomve the SBS 2000 with the Windows 2003 plus exchange 2007. Is it possible to join the windows 2003 into the SBS 2000 domain, promote the windows 2003 to DC and install exchange 2007 into the windows 2003 DC? Is there any reference in microsoft web talking about this scenario? regards, Samson Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179667
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    - VPN to SBS2000 Shares I have a Widows XP PRo Desktop at a remote location, that is NOT a part of the SBS2000 Domain. I have connected to my SBS2000 Server via Native Windows VPN connector, connected successfully, and then tried to MAP a drive and Create a Network place. Both failed. Is there a way to connect to a share without establishing a DOMAIN relationship? jdc Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179663
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    - Updating Windows server 2000 Is it possible to update server 2000 to Server 2003 small business premium edition or do you have to buy and install server 2003. Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179660
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    - How to move from Windows 2000SBS environment to Windows 2003 stand Hi, Our client has Windows 2000 SBS, including exchange in use. They now determined to move Windows 2003 Std environment, as their business is growing. They use also Roaming profiles. They have already purchased new hardware and operating systems. So the future scenario should be, that they have 2 Windows 2003 std servers, where server A would have all file and printing services, and server B would be exchange 2007 std server. Any suggestions what would be the easiest way to make this operation. I have read about sbsmigration, but is it useful, when moving to Windows standard domain? Thanks in advance, Jouko Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179658
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    - DNS Domain Name and Pre-Win2K Domain Name divergence in SBS 2K Hi there Gents! Oh please, listen to my plea: Exists a Win 2000 SBS Premium, named "ZX", or better "ZX.CO.local". We wish to add two more DCs so that ? among other things - we may speed up user authentication in two remote sites. However for reasons beyond the scope of this message (previous admin) DNS Domain Name and Pre-Win2K Domain Name differ in our installation. The first is "CO.local" while the second is "NWTRADERS" (fictitious names altogether). This divergence seems to inhibit adding AD servers in our domain. We did in fact manage to add a second AD server recently, one that was already present as a member server from the initial NT4 domain days. Still, a problem in File Replication Service (NTFRS errors 13506 ?a? 13555 appearing in the DC event log) prevents it from sharing its SYSVOL and becoming an active AD server. Newly installed servers can?t even perform dcpromo: Having selected that we wish to set up an "additional domain controller for an existing domain" we reach the point where we provide user credentials and select a domain. Alas, we are immediately informed of an imminent shutdown in the next 60 seconds provoked by NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM and that "The system process C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32\SERVICES.EXE terminated unexpectedly with status code 128". Please note that these new AD server candidates run Win2K Server and that all machines are fully patched. As I considered that it was due to an erroneous/quirky installation of the new servers, I looked into this direction first. Unfortunately, my search using the status code mentioned above didn?t really provide any clues. This same problem was supposedly fixed by Win2K SP2. However, during the umpteenth installation and dcpromo I noticed that should I change ? in the 60 secs I have until the system shuts down ? the domain name that appears in the screen from "CO.local" to "NWTRADERS" (i.e. from DNS name to pre-Win2K domain name) dcpromo can indeed proceed. Needless to say it can never finish, as the system powers down, but it seems that it could finish the task. Following this I found a KB article (KB257623) that seems to be applicable to our case. Although no mention is made of the error code or of the forced shutdown, it really seems to point to a new direction. Netdiag reports no errors to speak of. What could I do to either impede the dcpromo error from incurring or reconcile the differing domain names? Is the latter going to have a negative impact to the Exchange in my SBS server? Would I have to remove and then add / reset all computer memberships in our domain? Thanks in advance for your time and consideration. Any idea or suggestion would be most welcome. Manos Petridis Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179653
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    - Login error when retrieving messages via POP3 Hello, I have a user who just got a Motorola Q phone. He wants to receive messages from our SBS 2000 server. The Q phone has options to receive mail using either POP3 or IMAP4. I configured it for POP3, but kept getting a login error. To test I also tried Outlook Express and get the same login error. The user does have remote login enabled and can view his messages via OWA. Next I tried using the administrator account on the phone. That worked. I then gave the user administrator rights, but he is still not able to login. I have been searching for a place that enables POP3 logins. Can anyone help? The server has W2k SP4 and Exchange 2000 SP3. Thank you Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179646
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    - ACCPAC with Longhorn "Windows Server 2008" Hi Can somebody please let me know when will ACCPAC start supporting Windows Server 2008 / Longhorn. Thanks, Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179642
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    - MAS 90/200 and 500 support for Longhorn "Windows Server 2008" Hi Can somebody please let me know when will MAS 90/200 and MAS 500 start supporting Windows Server 2008 / Longhorn. Thanks, Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179641
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    - Vista PC connection to SBS 2000. Can I connect a Vista PC to SBS 2000? If so how? If not is the only solution to upgrade to SBS 2003 and run the patch? What will that run me? Thanks! Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179631
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    - <<<< LAST CALL>>>>>> Survey: SBS WW Community Survey 2007: http://connect.microsoft.com/SBSCommunity/Survey/Survey.aspx?SurveyID=3232 Last call for feedback... last call for the Tshirt contest. http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/06/20/community-tshirts.aspx Want to tell Microsoft what you like? What you don't like? What you like about the resources? Support offerings? Tell Kevin what you had/having for dinner? This is your last chance before he comes back from vacation on Monday to give your feedback. So tell Microsoft your thoughts..... Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179623
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    - slow disk response i have sbs 2000 installed with sp4 and am having an issue with slow disk response. the kb's say to ensure the drive is on a seperate ultra ata ribbon cable (done that) and to check bios (done that) check advanced properties for dma enabled (done that) and it is still the same. i found some info on disk.sys causing the hdd to slow donw with wrtie cache enabled. i have removed that (i have a ups on the server to ensure the data is not corrupted with a crash / loss of power) still the same. however i have checked the date and tried to update the hdd driver (disk.sys) and the date is 1999 and the update says it finds a newer driver and installs but the date is the same. i have seen disk.sys files shown in various kb's with dates as new as 2005, even the i386 original disks show 2001. QUESTION: can i just copy the newer disk.sys to the wnnt\system32\drivers directory without the chance of the data being corrupted? QUESTION: sp4 will not re-apply, it says sp already applied. how can i re-apply sp4 without removing it first and then running the risk of other newer programs installed not working properly? i hope some guru out there can help, especially since sbs 2000 is not supported anymore!! Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179616
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    - DHCP server Event ID 1053 Hello, I have a problem with the DHCP server ond my SBS server 2000. It wont start. I get the following message (eventID 1053): The DHCP/BINL service on this Small Business Server has encountered another server on this network with IP Address, 192.168.2.1, belonging to the domain: . I cannot ping this adress from any computer in the network (which are 192.168.16.x adresses) I have been doing a little searching this morning, and saw 2 possible causes/solutions, both of which do not seem to work. First and foremost... you have a router that is also a DHCP server. This is not the case, I checked and DHCP is disabled on the router. A second possible casue/solution I found here: http://forums.windrivers.com/archive/index.php/t-57658.html Now I am not really an expert in these things, but some searching led me to believe this is also not the case here. I think this because of the following: I go to Admin Tools\Routing and Remote Access I expand <the server>\IP Routing\ I only see General and Static Routes and I see nothing that has to do with NAT (you can add this, I tried this and the DHCP checkbox wasn't checked, and afterwards I deleted it again). As I said, I don't fully understand the last solution, so maybe something is to be gained there, but I have a feeling that also is not the problem. Any help would be greatly appriciated. Jurre Koning (Netherlands) Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179613
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    - Impact of Partitions on RAID I am running SBS 2000 with hardware RAID (3 disks in one RAID 5 container partitioned as C: & D:). I have the Exchange database and 2 SQL databases on partition D:. I recently also moved the page file to D: when I went to 2GB RAM because C: did not have enough room to hold it. Now, as you might guess, the disk activity is heavily weighted towards the D:. Is there any incentive to split the page file between C: & D:? Does a choice of partitions have any impact on speed when both are in the same container? Thanks, Joe M Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179611
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    - Client computer access for SBS2000 Hi, This may seem like an odd question but. I have a client computer that is successfully connected to our SBS, all working fine no problems. However, I have a requirement for that client computer to be able to access the Internet without going through the SBS. I have a laptop that can successfully connect to my router and access the net without going through the SBS but I cannot get this client to do the same. What I am looking for is for the hardwired network card and cable to go through the router but to use the wireless net connector to connect to router when I need to go without SBS. When I disconnect the hardwire connection and enable wireless it simply won't connect the router. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance, Gary. Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179609
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    - ISA RAS configuration?? Hello. I have a question about ISA VPN configuration. I have sbs2000 with 2 NICS configured has infomation below: Z:\>ipconfig /all Windows 2000 IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : golias Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : CANNONHYGIENE.local Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : CANNONHYGIENE.local Ethernet adapter Internal: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7781 Gigabit Server Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-CD-0C-5A-5B DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1 Ethernet adapter External: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP NC7771 Gigabit Server Adapter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-0A-86-88-3D DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.100.10 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.100.2 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.1 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled The router where the ISA external card is connected is 192.168.100.2. Our branches have routers with the following IP scheme: 10.0.2.2 mask 255.255.255.0 10.0.4.2 mask 255.255.255.0 10.0.5.2 mask 255.255.255.0 10.0.6.2 mask 255.255.255.0 10.0.7.2 mask 255.255.255.0 -When i try to acess one branck from another branche everything goes well. -If i try to access the SBS network ican connect to the SBS server but i can't connect to any of the machines inside the network. -If i try to connect one branch from the a computer inside the SBS network is also not possible, only if i connect directly from the ISA server. In some posts i have read that we need to configure RAS, i'm not sure if i need to do this. Could anyone give me some ideas about what i must do, if necessary please put some aditional questions. Nuno Santos Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179608
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    - Windows Deployment Services (WDS) is it supported on Win 2003 SBS And can I use it to deploy XP PRO images to workstations? Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179605
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    - enforcing logon times in Win2K Group Policy... I have an OU where all users in the OU have the same account logon hours set. I want to set it so that if the user happens to be logged on when the logon time expires, they will be notified and then be automatically logged off or disconnected. I have a windows 2000 small business server. I did some research and did find in group policy ->Computer Configuration->Windows Settings->Security Settings->Local Policies where you can enable the automatic log off setting. So I modified the exisiting group policy to enable this feature and I also have the security settings set for this group policy so that the box 'Enforce Group Policy' is checked for all "authenticated users". I even added an individual user in there for test purposes and made sure the enforce check box was checked... I then did a gpupdate/force on teh machine the test user woul dbe logging onto. Even after doing all of this, it does not seem to work. I logged a user on using a terminal server session and let their session sit idle. It passed the account expiry time I had set for that account and nothing happened. They continued to be logged on.. So I then logged the user off and when attempting to log the user back on again, it did indicate they were unable to do so due to account restrictions... So that was good. However, what else needs to be done to ensure that if a user is logged on when the account logon time expires, they will be notified and then be automatically logged off? Thanks, Brad Thanks, Brad Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179602
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    - Recommended Max Memory for SQL - MSFW, WSUS, SBSMonitoring, SharePoint It's well known that SQL takes as much memory as it can, and several experts tell us to manually set the memory size to xxx. But what number should I use for xxx? I often see "100" as the example. I assume this means 100MB. But why that number? How could I be more methodical in picking a number? In the SQL 2005 Enterprise Manager that comes with the Premium Edition, I can pick a SQL instance, choose properties, and select the 'Memory' page. Can I get the same result by entering 100 in the field called "Maximum server memory (in MB)"? What is the recommend Maximum and Minimum for: MSFW WSUS SBSMonitoring SharePoint Thanks for your help in fixing the slowness of some services. Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179597
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    - audit logins. I would like to start an audit trail of who has logged in/out on the network and when so that I can access the trail from time to time. Can that that be done? Thanks! Joe. Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179596
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    - wat the POP3 and SMTP servers? wat the POP3 and SMTP servers? Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179593
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    - ATM issue on VPN network connection Since we have setup some ATM there are lots of problem raised that we don't know the real cause of problem. But now we have mention something related to network that also raised some problem to us. We have notice that ATM location which are installed on network where is using lease line, micro wave or fiber optic are runnning well than ATM which are installed on VPN network. The problem is that, ATM goes out of service wothout reason event we can ping to ATM ip address. We have contact to ATM vender related to network speed requirement and they replied the network speed that ATM can work is 64 kbps and there is not because of VPN or other network type. There is true in this case because lots of problem are raised on the same ATM running on VPN network. Hi reader, you may understand well about problem we facing right? If you all have any commend related to this problem could share with us to sold it. Thanks you very much in advance. Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179592
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    - MI5 Persecution: Stasi 21/4/96 (16079) Subject: Chief Constable Alderson Condemns "Stasi" MI5 Newsgroups:uk.misc,uk.politics,uk.media,uk.legal,soc.culture.british Organization: Toronto Free-Net Summary: Keywords: John Alderson, former Chief Constable of Devon and Cornwall, had the following to say about the expansion of the Security Service's powers, in a recent magazine article; "It is fatal to let the secret service into the area of ordinary crime. MI5 is not under the same restraints as the police. They infiltrate organisations, people's jobs and lives. They operate almost like a cancer." "At the moment the acorn of a Stasi [the former East German communists' secret service] has been planted. It is there for future governments to build on." The message is clear. Criminal subversion and criminal harassment by an unpoliced minority not subject to the law, "infiltration of people's jobs and lives" is with us today. 16079 Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179591
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    - MI5 Persecution: Leant On 7/4/96 (14565) From: Green <Green@guidion.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british Subject: Re: MI5 Persecution: Why Aren't the British Police Doing Their Job? Reply-To: Green@guidion.demon.co.uk Date: Sun Apr 7 21:13:30 1996 In article <DpIE0r.736.0.bloor@torfree.net> bu765@torfree.net "Mike Corley" writes: > Last Easter (1995) I went into the local police station in London and spoke to > an officer about the harassment against me. But I couldn't provide tangible > evidence; what people said, in many cases years ago, is beyond proof, and > without something to support my statements I cannot expect a police officer to > take the complaint seriously. This in itself dos not suggest that the police have it in for you. The old bill operates on extremely tight spending limits forced on them by that pillock Michael Howard, and without evidence, they often have higher priorities than chasing something that cannot go to court. I doubt that the police are actually being leant on, but they probably realise that if they looked into this, they would be leant on hard. The met always stays away from anything that looks like it has Defence, Security or secret service interest already, because they realise that they are below these government agencies in the general pecking order. This attitude was made clear in a TV show where a left wing comedian heckled some aristocratic Tory candidate in a local election. The police officer gave the comic a ticking off, even though you could see that this young copper sympathised with the comedian, and regarded the Tory as an upper-crust wanker. He said, and I quote "I'm giving you the ticking off and not him because he's a Lord and I'm a Police Constable." If I walked into my local nick and complained that MI5 were snooping on me, they would show me the door without even looking at my evidence, because that bored desk seargant with only five years to go before he retires doesn't want to start fucking about with somebody who has incurred the wrath of Stella Rimington. He would rather deal with the lost dogs and driving licence producers, eat his cheese and pickle sandwiches and piss off home at the end of his shift than have some high ranking spook having a go at his boss and getting him a bollocking. In short, you have earned much sympathy but little surprise. Just remember that saying about the enemy of your enemies. Have a nice day. ******************************************* QUOTE OF THE DAY****************** * You have just read the opinons of : * "Common sense is merely the set * * * of prejudices a person acquires* ========================================================================= Subject: Re: MI5 Persecution: Why Aren't the British Police Doing Their Job? Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british Followup-To: uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british References: <DpIE0r.736.0.bloor@torfree.net> Organization: Toronto Free-Net Distribution: >This in itself dos not suggest that the police have it in for you. >The old bill operates on extremely tight spending limits forced on >them by that pillock Michael Howard, and without evidence, they >often have higher priorities than chasing something that cannot go >to court. I think the police know well what's going on. It is up to them to do something about it. They know I've made a complaint at a police station. I could probably do more to try to help myself (I think someone suggested making a written complaint to the chief constable) but even then I nthink they would not take action. > >I doubt that the police are actually being leant on, but they probably >realise that if they looked into this, they would be leant on hard. >The met always stays away from anything that looks like it has Defence, >Security or secret service interest already, because they realise that >they are below these government agencies in the general pecking order. > So we have a situation where the security service breaks the law, everyone knows MI5 breaks the law, and the police won't investigate crimes that would otherwise earn a jail sentence. Oh good, I'm really glad the UK is a democracy. (<sarcasm>, for those of you who didn't catch that) >If I walked into my local nick and complained that MI5 were snooping on me, >they would show me the door without even looking at my evidence, because >that bored desk seargant with only five years to go before he retires >doesn't want to start fucking about with somebody who has incurred the >wrath of Stella Rimington. He would rather deal with the lost dogs and >driving licence producers, eat his cheese and pickle sandwiches and piss >off home at the end of his shift than have some high ranking spook having >a go at his boss and getting him a bollocking. In this case I think it is 'high-ranking' police officers who are aware of the persecution, they know a complaint has been made, and they're doing nothing. What is more, I don't think there is anything I can do that would make them take action, both because they may be being 'leant on' and through the wider view that it could be deleterious to the state to have a persecution by state organs exposed. They're wrong in taking that point of view, because sooner or later this will all out anyway, and they it will be n years of police inaction (n>=6) that will be questioned. > >In short, you have earned much sympathy but little surprise. Just remember >that saying about the enemy of your enemies. > >Have a nice day. 14565 Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179590
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    - MI5 Persecution: Shoot to Kill 4/4/96 (13051) Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british From: jbaker@pobox.com (Jill Baker) Subject: Re: MI5 Persecution: How and Why Did it Start? Reply-To: jbaker@pobox.com Date: Thu Apr 4 05:03:01 1996 jbaker@pobox.com (Jill Baker) wrote: >bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) wrote: >>Why would >>the security services expend hundreds of thousands of pounds and more than fiv >>years of manpower to try to kill a British citizen? Because ... >So why didn't they just shoot you dead? >It would have been a lot cheaper. Please make the effort to respond to this point Mike. It was a serious question. Jill (my opinions are entirely my own, no-one else's) ================================================================= Subject: Re: MI5 Persecution: How and Why Did it Start? Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british Followup-To: uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british References: <Dp5IAr.1EB.0.bloor@torfree.net> Organization: Toronto Free-Net Distribution: jbaker@pobox.com (Jill Baker) wrote: >bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) wrote: >>Why would >>the security services expend hundreds of thousands of pounds and more than fiv >>years of manpower to try to kill a British citizen? Because ... >So why didn't they just shoot you dead? >It would have been a lot cheaper. I think there are two reasons nobody has taken physical action as opposed to verbal; a) A lot of people "know". Perhaps you the reader might not know, but lots of people in the media etc do. Remember, I was born in the UK and lived there until a couple of years ago. I don't think these people would condone state-sponsored murder of someone who might be seen on a good day as one of their own. b) Rather than doind anything directly, they're going for spying, verbal harassment, media harassment, every form of persecution short of the physical. Because as soon as anything turns physical, the police become involved; and unless it turns physical, the police can shrug and say 'not our problem'. So they persecute you and try to get you to react, either by hitting one of them (in which case I clearly find myself in the wrong as far as the police are concerned), or by trying to harm myself (in which case they can pretend they weren't responsible). It's a pretty unproductive form of harassment actually, because if you don't react then they're wasting they're time. Or perhaps they're just cheap bullies and trying to wreck someone's life, without any ulterior motive? 13051 Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179589
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    - MI5 Persecution: Email Cruelty 11/3/96 (11537) From: D.S.Toube@qmw.ac.uk (David Toube) Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,uk.legal,uk.media,soc.culture.british Subject: Re: Why Censorship Must Not Be Allowed on Uk.* Reply-To: D.S.Toube@qmw.ac.uk Date: Mon Mar 11 11:47:13 1996 A OSHINEYE <TA5330@QMWCC7.qmw.ac.uk> wrote: :D.S.Toube@qmw.ac.uk (David Toube) wrote: :>I would also be very pleased if Mike Corley would not mailbomb me :>via my university account with messages entitled 'This Is What :>You Get For Censorship', thus closing down the entire college :>email system. :> :>Although it does not personally inconvenience me, it is rather :>dull for the college. :When did this happen? BTW you can always use Pegasus Mail to send all :email from Corley's address back to him and see how he likes it. :--Ade : This weekend. The result, Mike Corley will be gratified to hear, was that all users of the college system were prevented from using email. I suspect that there is no stopping Mike Corley. If mail is automatically returned to him, he will return it back to you tenfold. If he is thrown off his account, as he surely will be, he will find another one. I do not care whether Mike Corley has an email account or not. It is a matter of supreme indifference to me whether his fanciful account of persecution is aired or not. If he thinks that he has been persecuted by M15 and Chris Tarrant, then that is a matter for him. But there is a world of difference between repeatedly spamming usenet - which is unacceptable - and setting up a Web Site containing his post, which is entirely acceptable. Then it will be possible to choose whether or not to partake of his fantasy. However although I would not like to see the censorship of posts because they demonstrate evidence of mental illness, I suspect that Mike Corley will inevitably be censored by his ISP following a number of complaints of usenet abuse and mailbombing. ---- David Toube Lecturer in Law QMW, University of London WWW: http://www.qmw.ac.uk/~ugtl027/index.html David Boothroyd's British Elections Home Page WWW: http://www.qmw.ac.uk/~laws/election/home.html 11537 Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179588
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    - MI5 Persecution: Jeff Rooker MP 5/3/96 (10023) From: rael@midnight.org (Rael A. Fenchurch) Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,uk.media,uk.legal,alt.politics.british Subject: Re: Persecution in the U.K. Date: Tue Mar 5 04:37:52 1996 Mike, >"go away" replies, and one from a Labour MP saying he was aware of my situation >but wouldn't help me because he regarded me as the "bad guy". Gee thanks, they >do this and then offload the shame they should feel onto you by telling you "oh >but it's your fault". It's a mad world. Do you happen to have a copy of this MPs letter? After all, a scanned copy of it would lend great weight to your case here. At the moment, you've offered us nothing in the way of evidence, which is one of the main reasons we all think you've truly gone fishing. So? Rael... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Rael A. Fenchurch (rael@midnight.org, http://www.midnight.org/rael/) --- --- "I don't think compassion's the language of our time" --- --- "Doubt or Die" --- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================== From: Andy Howard <andy@kiss100.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,uk.media,uk.legal,alt.politics.british Subject: Re: Persecution in the U.K. Reply-To: andy@kiss100.demon.co.uk Date: Tue Mar 5 06:06:15 1996 In article: <DnrMsq.239.0.bloor@torfree.net> bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) wr I got a few > "go away" replies, and one from a Labour MP saying he was aware of my situatio > but wouldn't help me because he regarded me as the "bad guy". Which Labour MP Mike? > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Andy Howard EMail andy@kiss100.demon.co.uk | | My opinions, not my employer's (Jolly nice people though they are). | | If my employers shared my opinions... Well, frankly I'd be amazed | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ==================================================================== Subject: Re: Persecution in the U.K. Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,uk.media,uk.legal,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.br$ Followup-To: uk.misc,uk.politics,uk.media,uk.legal,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.b$ References: <DnFtLs.E37.0.bloor@torfree.net> <4h45nq$87o_002@leeds.ac.uk> <4h6gkb$ivc$ Organization: Toronto Free-Net Distribution: Mike Corley (bu765@torfree.net) wrote: : >Do you happen to have a copy of this MPs letter? After all, a scanned : >copy of it would lend great weight to your case here. At the moment, : >you've offered us nothing in the way of evidence, which is one of the : >main reasons we all think you've truly gone fishing. So? : The letter was by email, not on paper. (In addition to snail-mailing, I : emailed all the relevant addresses I could find.) I'll see if I can find : it, I keep a record of most of this correspondence so I may still have it. I'm afraid I don't have a copy of the correspondence. In future I will keep useful letters, so with luck there may be a "next time". The MP was Jeff Rooker, Labour MP. Having looked again at the Labour web page I find he doesn't have an address listed, but I have a record of his address as having been jeff.rooker@geo2.poptel.org.uk. I don't know where I got the address from. I'm so disorganised! ==================================================================== Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,uk.media,uk.legal,alt.politics.british From: J.J.Smith@ftel.co.uk (John J Smith) Subject: Re: Persecution in the U.K. X-Nntp-Posting-Host: death-on-the-rock.ftel.co.uk Message-ID: <Dnw49L.D1H@ftel.co.uk> Sender: smid@death-on-the-rock.ftel.co.uk (RFC931) Organization: Fujitsu Telecommunications Europe Ltd References: <DnFtLs.E37.0.bloor@torfree.net> <DnrMsq.239.0.bloor@torfree.net> <Dnsrnu.Jr1.0.bloor@torfree.net> <DntKEo.86E.0.bloor@torfree.net> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:12:56 GMT Lines: 54 In article <DntKEo.86E.0.bloor@torfree.net>, Mike Corley <bu765@torfree.net> wrote: >Mike Corley (bu765@torfree.net) wrote: >: >Do you happen to have a copy of this MPs letter? After all, a scanned >: >copy of it would lend great weight to your case here. At the moment, >: >you've offered us nothing in the way of evidence, which is one of the >: >main reasons we all think you've truly gone fishing. So? > >: The letter was by email, not on paper. (In addition to snail-mailing, I >: emailed all the relevant addresses I could find.) I'll see if I can find >: it, I keep a record of most of this correspondence so I may still have it. > >I'm afraid I don't have a copy of the correspondence. In future I will keep >useful letters, so with luck there may be a "next time". Don't believe you. Because that might be proof, and we just *cant* have that. >The MP was Jeff Rooker, Labour MP. Having looked again at the Labour web page I >find he doesn't have an address listed, but I have a record of his address as >having been jeff.rooker@geo2.poptel.org.uk. I don't know where I got the >address from. I'm so disorganised! I did Email this MP yesterday. This is what I wrote: Smid>I am sorry to bother you, but there is a person with a known Smid>personality disorder on the internet usenet, claiming that you Smid>as an MP have backed up his claims that he is being persecuted Smid>by MI5. Smid>His name is Mike Corely, and posts from canada (email address Smid>available if you require). Smid> Smid>He claims that you have told him that his claims that the Smid>"television is watching him", are justified, yet cannot find the Smid>email in which he did so.. Smid>I'd be interested in what you have said to him, because we have Smid>had a long term battle to convince him that he really is schizophrenic Smid>and that Chris Tarrent, MI5 and Martin Lewis from News On Ten are Smid>persecuting him... If you do have the original Email, then that'd Smid>be nice... Smid>If you nothing of this subject, it would not suprise me, however. His reply, surpise, suprise was: MP>No idea what you are on about. I am getting really sick of some of MP>the junk on E mail. I just dump it so he may have contacted MP>but as to an answer I 've better things to do. Your move, Mike. Smid 10023 Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179587
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    - MI5 Persecution: Flight or fight 7/1/96 (8509) From: huge@axalotl.demon.co.uk (Hugh Davies) Newsgroups: uk.misc Subject: Re: persecution rant (re-post) Reply-To: huge@axalotl.demon.co.uk Date: Sun Jan 7 04:43:41 1996 Yo, Mike, Happy New Year! Haven't you killed yourself yet? In article <DKMIs5.158.0.bloor@torfree.net>, bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) wri >For anyone who hasn't yet read this, There is no-one in the known Universe who hasn't read this at least 5 times. >and really really wants to then here No-one wants to read it, Mike. It's drivel. >is the article that was posted last year in this newsgroup.... Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.... -- Regards, Huge. ================================================== Subject: persecution rant (re-post) Newsgroups: uk.misc Organization: Toronto Free-Net Summary: Keywords: >Yo, Mike, Happy New Year! Haven't you killed yourself yet? But I can't, you see then I wouldn't know how things would turn out ("we're only doing this because we don't know how it's all going to end" - logic error in line 100) >There is no-one in the known Universe who hasn't read this at least 5 times. It doesn't seem to have done a whole lot of good since the good old persecution stuff is still going on. Over Christmas I was flying BA and got hassled by a couple of people on the flight (sounds like something you've heard before, doesn't it?). All the usual stuff about the town I'd been staying, "he doesn't know who we are", self-justification that we're doing it because he's a "nutter" etc. Real friendly like. Also a fairly obvious wind-up and attempt to get some reaction. I think they're trying quite hard to get a reaction. If I hit someone on a flight over the Atlantic, am I actually breaking any laws, and if so whose? Is a BA aircraft British territory subject to British laws while it's in mid-flight? It is really tempting to "reply" and that's obviously what they want, so who am I to refuse a blow to the head for people who ask for it so consistently? 8509 Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179586
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    - MI5 Persecution: Dihydrocodeine 26/11/95 (6995) From: michaelm@easynet.co.uk (michaelm@easynet.co.uk) Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.media,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,alt.radio.uk Subject: Re: Britain's Shame (repost) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 09:19:13 GMT Organization: ------------ Lines: 89 Message-ID: <817374781.20251@michaelm.easynet.co.uk> References: <DIM34L.755.0.bloor@torfree.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: michaelm.easynet.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: michaelm.easynet.co.uk X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corblymee) wrote: | In June 1990 a horrifying campaign of harassment was initiated in London by | what are believed to be elements of the security services. The harassment has | continued for over five years, starting from the broadcast and print media, | and encompassing abuse through set-up situations and by people in public | places. It has been brought to the attention of the police and they are aware | what is happening, but are not taking any action to prevent it. <whopping great snip of 884 lines> corley, you puzzle me! i've narrowed your possible motives down to one or more of the following: 1) you work on behalf of the british government with a hidden agenda of furthering the largely right wing (most to hide) censorship brigade's cause, "a drug-crazed psycho posting dangerous nonsense - how very very sad - but in the public interest,we must act." draft internet (censorship) bills rolling off hm govt's banders at this very moment, I don't doubt it! 2) you work for the daily mail which has started to feel the "internet pinch" as it suddenly clicks in the chronically adled minds of yet more and more of their readers - that shudder-inducing realisation that the entire editorial staff at the mail are scaremongering, imbecilic, blood-leeching , totalitarian twats - can any else sense a coordinated campaign on its way ??- "Mail urges (their) government to act - internet safety endangered by uncontrolled surfing lunatics - boys hands blown off by internet maniacs - net porn responsible for 392323rd rape " .net porn responsible for 392324th rape " .net porn responsible for 392325th rape " .net porn responsible for 392326th rape " .net porn responsible for 392327th rape " net porn responsible for 392328th rape " .net porn responsible for 392329th rape " <yawn> .net porn responsible for 392330th rape " .net porn responsible for 392331st rape " .net porn responsible for 392332nd rape " net porn responsible for 392333rd rape " <yawn> .net porn responsible for 392334th rape " .net porn responsible for 392335th rape " .net porn responsible for 392336th rape " .net porn responsible for 392337th rape " net porn responsible for 392338th rape " etcetera, straight from the old nag's mouth.. lee-potter (and english), take particular note.. (how ever you two common ********* managed to avoid encarceration for what was, quite evidently,wilful contempt of court in the regina v taylforth & knights case, is frankly beyond me.. those dreaded and now all too familiar words "endemic corruption" were muttered by at least one Q.C. >3) you (at least) believe there's (some) substance to your claim(s) and you >have a genuine axe to grind. If so, bloody well go for it, but scrape the >heavy layer of steaming dung off the top (that's assuming you're even >capable of distinguishing fantasy from reality.) 4) you (as an email address) are serving as some bizarre "educational" programme orchestrated by the psychiatric industry - ever keen to justify enforced electrical lobotomies, electroshock and dwugs .All poised for the echo? - "corley frigging well needs lobotomising" 5) you're just clinically insane with absolutely no comprehension or insight into the consequences you will possibly face as a result of repeatedly posting what, certainly on the face of it, looks like complete and utter bullshit. 6) you're some weirdo prankster(s) - probably a group of student psychiatrists having a cheap crack whilst high as kites on pilfered dihydrocodeine. 7) You are infact working for the ss yourself, gauging public awareness of the extent and methods of bugging - infinity transmitters, microwave surveillance devices, satellite tracking equipment, 'chipping' of black crims, say no more. 8) You're fuelling the central usenet administration committee, who, it is believed, are keen to see the introduction of a wide-reaching framework of self-created powers relating to posting cancellation. (see the 'son of RFC1036') my bet's on (5) - but just fuck off corley- irritate the lard-arsed canucks instead. The cia's financing of "professor" cameron's brain-washing experiments in montreal.. would be a good starting point ... or perhaps "professor" watts and his widely admired masterful double eye-jabbing trick - a couple of wallops with an icepick. such a waste of perfectly edible four year old hispanics !!!!.. Perhaps the old marylebone rd posse could fill us in with a few more facts on this one...?? You are all on the .net now ????? A very warm welcome :-) ... christmas rapidly approaching.. >business booming?? Do we all get a look in at flotation ??!! ====================================================== From: Gulliver <kst2co@herts.ac.uk> Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.media,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,alt.radio.uk Subject: Re: Britain's Shame (repost) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 18:25:32 +0000 Organization: University of Hertfordshire Lines: 12 Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951126182156.16879B-100000@altair.herts.ac.uk> References: <DIM34L.755.0.bloor@torfree.net> <817343873snz@objmedia.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: altair.herts.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <817343873snz@objmedia.demon.co.uk> Actually, upon thinking about Mike's story it reminds me of someone I heard about who suffered from a persecution copmlex. He was an immigrant from some Eastern Bloc country who believed that 30 years after he emigrated the KGB were still after him. He would blame them if he had difficulty unlocking his car for instance (he reckoned they were putting something into the locks!). Something is very wrong, probably in Mike's head but what the hell, loonies make life more fun! -- Angus Gulliver ======================================================= Subject: Castrate the depraved MI5 buggers now Newsgroups: uk.misc Organization: Toronto Free-Net >Something is very wrong, probably in Mike's head but what the hell, >loonies make life more fun! Something is very wrong when the security services abandon their usual target of politicians and the well-known, to pursue the hitherto unknown nonentities such as myself. >corley, you puzzle me! Why? Because of my pathological truthfulness? >3) you (at least) believe there's (some) substance to your claim(s) and you >have a genuine axe to grind. If so, bloody well go for it, but scrape the >heavy layer of steaming dung off the top (that's assuming you're even >capable of distinguishing fantasy from reality.) Bloody well go for it I will. I think the "standard spiel" is quite studded with facts actually. There's plenty of "meat" there if the appropriate people can be motivated to get their act together and pursue the case. >my bet's on (5) - but just fuck off corley- irritate the lard-arsed canucks >instead. The cia's financing of "professor" cameron's brain-washing the lard-arsed canucks (?) are irritating me, but you don't want to hear about that >business booming?? Do we all get a look in at flotation ??!! 6995 Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179585
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    - MI5 Persecution: A new Kafka? 3/10/95 (5481) Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,uk.media,uk.politics From: jackson@soldev.tti.com (Dick Jackson) Subject: Re: What it's like to be watched by the security services Message-ID: <1995Oct13.225312.6514@ttinews.tti.com> Sender: usenet@ttinews.tti.com (Usenet Admin) Nntp-Posting-Host: soldev Organization: Citicorp-TTI at Santa Monica (CA) by the Sea References: <DFy9tB.3JK.0.bloor@torfree.net> <813188298snz129.os2.7@blackcat.demon.co.uk> <DGE7uJ.8tF.0.bloor@torfree.net> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 1995 22:53:12 GMT Lines: 34 In article <DGE7uJ.8tF.0.bloor@torfree.net> bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) writes: > >Strangers in the street have recognized me on sight many times, and shown >awareness of the current thread of abuse. To give you one example, in 1992 >I was seriously ill, and a manager at work somewhat humouroursly said that >"it wasn't fair" that people were bullying me. A few days later, I >attended for the first time a clinic in London as an outpatient, and on my >way out was accosted by someone who asked if "they had paid my fare", with >emphasis on the word "fare". He repeated the word several times in this >different context; that they should have paid my "fare", each time >emphasising the word. > >For two and a half years from the time their harassment started until >November 1992 I refused to see a psychiatrist, because I reasoned that I >was not ill of my own action or fault, but through the stress caused by >harassment, and that a lessening of the illness would have to be >consequent to a removal of its immediate cause, in other words a cessation >of harassment. I also reasoned that since they were taunting me with jokes >about mental illness, if I were to seek treatment then the abusers would >think that they had "won" and been proved "right". <I've deleted a lot, but I think this gives the idea> I have so far not contributed to this tread, it has been unpleasant in my opinion. However, I was struck by the resemblance of the above passages to the writing of Franz Kafka. Viz. while from an objective viewpoint it seems to refer to a abnormal world, in a strange way it does resonate strongly at other levels. Mr. Corley, have you tried to write for publication? I honestly think it might lead somewhere positive. Dick Jackson (serious for a change and expecting to get beaten up) 5481 Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179584
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    - MI5 Persecution: Do they fear truth? 3/10/95 (3967) From: flames@flames.cityscape.co.uk (Peter Krüger) Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,uk.politics,alt.politics.british Subject: Re: What it's like to be watched by the security services Date: 3 Oct 1995 15:38:20 GMT Organization: Steinkrug Publications Lines: 66 Message-ID: <44rldc$nrm@news.cityscape.co.uk> References: <DFus24.HxB.0.bloor@torfree.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: aa040.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ In article <DFus24.HxB.0.bloor@torfree.net>, bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) says: > >It completely mystifies me how it can be done. One night in June 1992 I >was in a bed-and-breakfast in Oxford (some hard facts now, you?ll be >bored of the generalisations). I booked the B&B from the office phone. >So if they had the office bugged, or the phone system bugged, they could >have heard the call. If it was as late as 1992 then there was already a system available to feed digital video out of a domestic TV via the mains. Each raster of video was preceded by a sixteen bit address which identified the television set. All that was needed was a decoder box plugged into the mains somewhere between your room and the grid transformer. The signal was decoded and then fed down to the phone line. They probably even had a PC which enabled them to see the picture as well. By 1992 the technology had moved on from slowscan to near real time video with the advent of devices from Brooktree and Harris etc. >the newsreader reacted. Breathed deeply, as if in psychological relief. Maybe, or perhaps as if in:- sci.psychology.announce sci.psychology.consciousness sci.psychology.journals.psyche sci.psychology.journals.psycoloquy sci.psychology.misc sci.psychology.personality sci.psychology.psychotherapy sci.psychology.research sci.psychology.theory >I can't describe to you what goes through your mind when you know >someone on TV is "seeing" you the viewer. You?re doing OK so far. >Your instinct is to switch the TV off, to change channel, Not much point unless you switch off the TV at the mains >like an ostrich, Looks like Ostrich farming is going to catch on in the UK as you may have seen in some of the other uk newsgroups >The one time I did directly ask someone in the company who knew what was >going on, first he spewed wool about, "well we have to think what is >reality and what is proof anyway", then went into barefaced denial liar >mode. It opens your eyes, if they can't say out loud what they keep >saying in a disguised fashion, they must fear exposure, they must fear >the truth. wool_ barefaced_ denial_ liar_ eyes_ fashion_ fear_ exposure, How is your mother these days Mike? And BTW - How is the thesis coming along? Peter Kruger ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.gold.net/flames/ flames@flames.cityscape.co.uk 3967 Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179583
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    - MI5 Persecution: Grievous Bodily Harm 2/10/95 (2453) From: jeibisch@revolver.demon.co.uk (James Eibisch) Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,uk.politics,uk.media,rec.arts.tv.uk.misc Subject: Re: Auntie gets it in the emails Reply-To: jeibisch@revolver.demon.co.uk Date: Mon Oct 2 19:44:19 1995 lig0007@queens-belfast.ac.uk (TOM OATES) wrote: >However, I'm pleased to say that, in the past couple of days, Mike Corley has >stopped doing it and he appears (I say this cautiously) to be acting more >reasonably. True, his postings are still based on paranoid delusions. >However, so long as he doesn't go back to his old practices of multiple, >identical, unreadable postings, I'm sure that most people on this newsgroup >are willing to put up with him. Time to come out of the woodwork of this thread (or variations thereof)... I find it annoying that discussion of Mike's situation is spread over multiple threads - it makes it hard to follow, and especially to follow up. If it could be consolidated into one thread on relevant newsgroups (I'm reading this on uk.media btw). I'm a little surprised with the volume of abuse Mike has received, but believe strongly in freedom of speech if such a thing were to exist, which clearly includes abuse as much as anything. One thing which has been missing from this discussion is this simple prognosis: that maybe Mike is right and that, despite his admitted mental condition, there really is a campaign against him organised by now-influential ex-students of his university. Does anyone remember the TV series GBH, a fictional account of security service and governmental power games? Fictional, certainly, but one of the most powerful pieces of TV drama I've seen in many years, fascinating and quite believable, even. The fact is, as Mike has pointed out (oh, so many times :-), that the security services _do_ have the influence, contacts, resources, and time to conduct such a campaign of surveillance and even psychological terror if they so chose. If they have this power, then they will surely use it We still don't have all the facts from Mike, and the most pertinent here I think would be about his time at university - the people who took against him, the ringleaders. We need to know far more about Mike: his political and social affiliations, put in context with his univeristy years, the enemies he made, the reasons people ganged up on him at the very early stages. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories generally, but I know there is far more that goes on in the universities, old boy's clubs, civil and secret services and Parliament than is ever made public. Mike, I leave it to you to construct a _single_ thread in a relevant newsgroup about this topic and keep to this thread to give us new information and answer questions about your situation. Ignore the 'Mike Corley is a nutter' posts unless they are relevant. Give us more detail. Who knows? It may be true, stranger things have happened. _ James Eibisch ('v') N : E : T : A : D : E : L : I : C : A Reading, U.K. (,_,) http://metro.turnpike.net/J/jeibisch/ ======= ------------------------------- Tue, 03 Oct 1995 04:01:34 uk.misc Thread 3 of 14 Lines 58 Re: Auntie gets it in the emails Respno 16 of 16 J.J.Smith@ftel.co.uk John J Smith at Fujitsu Telecommunications Europe Ltd In article <812677261.12841@revolver.demon.co.uk>, James Eibisch <jeibisch@revolver.demon.co.uk> wrote: >lig0007@queens-belfast.ac.uk (TOM OATES) wrote: >One thing which has been missing from this discussion is this simple >prognosis: that maybe Mike is right and that, despite his admitted >mental condition, there really is a campaign against him organised by >now-influential ex-students of his university. We're trying to find this out on uk.misc. He's posted some *new* *huge* replies (which I'd have to give up my day job to reply to), detailing some things like: a) Mike Corley is *not* his real name b) Exactly what the "abuse" is (it seems be such things, as taking completely unrelated newspaper articles, striving to make them a disgusting insult, then redirecting against himself). c) How he came to the conclusion. I think he's doing rather better nowadays.. >Does anyone remember the TV series GBH, a fictional account of security >service and governmental power games? Fictional, certainly, but one of >the most powerful pieces of TV drama I've seen in many years, >fascinating and quite believable, even. This would be a point, apart from the fact that this was directed against someone of political importance. I don't believe Mike is... >The fact is, as Mike has pointed out (oh, so many times :-), that the >security services _do_ have the influence, contacts, resources, and time >to conduct such a campaign of surveillance and even psychological terror >if they so chose. If they have this power, then they will surely use it >at some point against some people. It appears he has formed the Security Service conclusion, because they are the only ones capable of doing it. A "searching for an enemy capable of it". >We still don't have all the facts from Mike, and the most pertinent here >I think would be about his time at university - the people who took >against him, the ringleaders. We need to know far more about Mike: his >political and social affiliations, put in context with his univeristy >years, the enemies he made, the reasons people ganged up on him at the >very early stages. I'm beginning to think that we never will get all the facts from Mike. We may, however, get enough... >Mike, I leave it to you to construct a _single_ thread in a relevant >newsgroup about this topic and keep to this thread to give us new >information and answer questions about your situation. Ignore the 'Mike >Corley is a nutter' posts unless they are relevant. Uk.misc, me boy... Smid ========================================================== From: flames@flames.cityscape.co.uk (Peter Kr|ger) Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,uk.media,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: What it's like to be watched by the security services Date: Tue Oct 3 15:41:54 1995 In article <44rrrh$t6v@news.ox.ac.uk>, idaniel@jesus.ox.ac.uk (Illtud Daniel) says: > >And what do you mean when you state that the symptoms are too >'textbook'? Are the textbooks wrong? I think what is meant by 'textbook' is that some of the symptoms of 'illness' displayed in the posts seem to have been lifted from textbooks describing mental instability and personality disorders. I must admit I haven't seen Mike's postings before has he only just started posting again? Peter Kruger ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.gold.net/flames/ flames@flames.cityscape.co.uk 2453 Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179582
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    - MI5 Persecution: Goldfish and Piranha 29/9/95 (939) I just thought I'd let you know what I've been reading into the "Crusader" spam. I don't want to post this to usenet because somebody might try to tie that in to my posts in some way (someone already has, in uk.misc). First of all, I'd like to ask you to believe that my phone line in my apartment is bugged, and has been for many months. I have moved a couple of times this year, but "they" have faithfully been on my trail. Anyway, let's suppose my phone line is bugged. Now, when I talk to my internet service provider, it's over a SLIP (now PPP) connection. So if you wanted to bug what was said, either you'd listen in over the line and have to decode the transmission, or you could go to the service provider (more difficult) and ask them to decode a particular user's connection. OK, so now they're listening to everything I do over my SLIP/PPP connection. A couple of months ago I was messing around with faking articles through nntp servers and through anonymous remailers. I chose a nice inconspicuous newsgroup for my little tests, something no-one would ever notice. Guess which newsgroup I chose??? Yes, _FISH_!!! or rec.aquaria to be precise And guess what articles I tried to post? Goldfish, Koi carp and, you'll never guess... PIRANHA!!! The goldfish article and the Koi went through, but the piranha didn';t appear. by now you probably think this is too silly for words. But if you look in the papers a few eeks ago you will find John Major, Tonny Blair and Paddy Ashdown sharing a "private joke" about Major's sunburnt goldfish. We haven't had anything about Koi yet (they must be too dull ). Now, sent by someone who clearly knew what they were doing (they chose an Italian backbone site for their launch point) we have many thousands of messages to people all over the globe. All about piranha, and with the punchline "that gives you something to think about, doesn't it?" The way it works is that they're trying to kill two birds with one stone again. I don't knoiw why they should be against these national alliance people, but my interpretation is that they simultaneously try to discredit them, and stem the flow of Corley articles. ================================================================= In article <DFnE55.8tF.0.bloor@torfree.net>, Mike Corley <bu765@torfree.net> wrote: > >John J Smith (J.J.Smith@ftel.co.uk) wrote: > >: b) we do know who you are. Or are you someone else we don't know about? >: You are currently known as "That bloody persistant net nutter, who's >: expanding from uk.misc to the rest of the world". > >I think the point I was trying to make is that I could tell you things >from my personal life, at home and at work, which would add credibility >to my story. But if I named people, then (a) they would object violently >to being included in this shenanigans, and (b) I would be revealing my >identity which would be bad for my personal life and my work life. Of >course some people in my personal life, and at work, do know who "mike >corley" is. But at least we're observing a studied silence for now. :People can always be called "MR X", to save them being named. : :I'm completely perplexed as to what you mean by b). Revealing identity? :To who? And why would this be bad for any part of your life when you :already have a less than respectful reputation here? I'll just enumerate one or two things that I can still remember. Sometime around August/Sept 1992 I was living in a house in Oxford, and coming out of the house was physically attacked by someone - not punched, just grabbed by the coat, with some verbals thrown in for good measure. That was something the people at work shouldn't have known about... but soon after a couple of people were talking right in front of me about, "yeah, I heard he was attacked". Again, one I went for a walk in some woods outside Oxford. The next day, at work, someone said "you know he went to the forest yesterday". I don't want to put details on usenet of what happened because to do so would be to risk it happening again. If you put ideas in peoples' heads then you can find them reflecting back at you, and I don't want that. Also I can't remember that much from three years ago. From november 1992 I started taking "major tranquilizers" and just blotted the whole thing from my mind. >This is a feature time and time again, that the security services >(presumed) get at you by manipulating other people around you to get at >you. If you have their contacts, manpower, resources and technology then >you can do that sort of thing. :But why? Are you a threat? They pretend they "have" to get at me. After the first few weeks they had to find a reason to spy and abuse. You can't abuse someone unless they're in the wrong in some way. What I did "wrong" was to be ill. So it became "nutter" and "monster" and "he's going to attack us" coupled with "ha ha ha, he can't do anything to defend himself, it was so funny". That obvious contradiction within their propaganda is something they blithely ignore. :So, the Security Services never *actually* appear, and you assume that :they get someone else to do your dirty work. This is a bit of a big :logical step, here: That person doesn't like me, or is causing me trouble, :it's not because they've got problems themselves, it must be the "Security :Services". Yes. Because people are infallible. Or is there more? A single source is indicated because of the range of harassment. BBC + Capital + manipulated_public_at_large + set_up_situations, what does that add up to? Add in the technology to carry out the covert spying and the manpower and knowhow to follow you around for five years without being spotted. It smells very much of the security services, because there is no other organization (to my knowledge) which does the things I've seen these people do. Remember, they have deliberately chosen the softest of soft targets to victimize. They purposely chose a mentally ill person who they thought would be likely to kill himself anyway, so that they could get away with murder. And in all likelihood it will have started as a personal vendetta by someone. Who could that be? I don't know, but I can give you some clues. The first possibility (deep breath) is that someone from my college set me up. Six years ago I graduated from university in the UK, during the last year there I was steadily getting more and more ill. I know that I was talking in my sleep; although I don't know what I was saying, it got me a reputation, and if someone from my college talked afterwards to the "wrong" people then that could be the reason for all that has followed. I think that's the strongest contender for source. Directly beneath my room lived another bloke who frequently had his friends round late at night, after the time that I went to sleep. So they could have heard what I was saying in my sleep, and that could have got me the reputation for "talking to myself". What I don't know is why that should have rebounded a year after I left. You'd think it would have happened sooner; it's a bit odd to wait for a year and then start abuse. That leads me to question what in particular happened around May/June 1990 for them to start then. >What I don't know is how it looks from the other side, from the side of >the people who are being manipulated to get at me. On a couple of >occasions I have challenged people to tell the truth of the matter, but >they have alwats ducked the challenge. :Have you ever considered the possibility, that you have made a mistake, and :the people don't know what you are talking about? Yes. I am currently considering the possibility that some people around me know only what is being posted on Usenet, and have not been "contacted" by "them". But I _know_ that others have been contacted. :What words? Are they in common use? Could they be a catchphrase of a :popular comedian?: "Nice to see you, to see you nice"? In England the all-time No. 1 is "nutter". Easter this year, returning home from Clapham police station to report five years of harassment ("we're not saying it's happening and we're not saying it isn't happening"), another "not happening" incident of harassment when a cowardly little slut did her country proud by yelling "nutter, nutter, nutter" in the face of the hated enemy. What can you do about that? You can't yell abuse back in their face, because they know they're supported by their peers, by the media, by the murderers in the security forces. You can't put them down when the fascist establishment is on their side. You can't hit them, because they would deny their abuse, they would deny knowing anything, and bring charges against the "nutter" who attacked them "at random". >You know, you're >passing saomeone, they're hardly going to construct an argument for your >benefit, so they work a word of abuse into the conversation which they >can giggle at. :Abuse such as what? We're all adults here, we can take it. Is this abuse :aimed at you? How can you tell it is? I think I've said already what the words are. Thing is, at any given time the language is consistent. In January everyone's calling you X, then a few weeks later people stop calling you X and start calling you Y. You can tell it's aimed at me, because when people repeatedly say the same words are you walk past, then laugh, you would have to be hard of understanding not to recognize it. >Or they repeat something that's been said somewhere else... the PE thing >being a case in point. PE says it, then other people pick up the refrain. :Remind me who PE is again. PE = "Private Eye" >: >To give you an example, which I mentioned in another posting. In around >: >October 1992, Private Eye ran a cover with the heading "Major's support >: >lowest ever", with John calling to Norma on the cover "come back, Norma". >: >Only one obvious interpretation to that, isn';;t there? I certainly >: >thought so when I saw that cover. Wrongo!! Down the pub with people from work >: >Simon says to phil, "don';t you think it's wrong then?" phil says, "well >: >private eye are usuallyright"..."hislop strikes again.. > >: Erm. Mike? Heeeelllllooo? What are you on about. What is the other >: interpretation then? Norma having an affair? Seems a bit wrong, with the >: heading "Majors support Lowest ever"... > >No, this one isn't obvious , it really does need to be explained. I >certainly didn't understand it when I first saw it. You see, the kernel >of vitriol is in the words "come back". At the time, the themes of >abuse were centred around interpretations of those two words (stretch your >mind a little bit, I don't have to spell it out for you, surely). :You did in your mail item. : :You seem to be scouting about something called a "Double Entendre". The :inference being "Come" = Ejaculation, "Back" = Anus (not the first part :of the body I would have went for, I would have foolishly gone for "Back", :silly old me). : :You see to have picked a sodomy double entendre out of a Private Eye :headline. They are everywhere. The English language has much double :meaning in it, and if you put your mind to it, you could pull a double :entendre out of a randomly chosen page of the bible. So what? >The point is that when Simon pointed it out to Phil, he did recognise >what it meant after a moment's thought... and so did I... and so did the >people who repeated it several times later... so however murky it may >seem to you, that is the meaning they intended it to have... I still don't really know if the meaning was intended when that headline was written, or if it was simply "found" after the fact. The reason I think it might be the former is that I got quite a lot of abuse along the lines of "sound-alike" or "double-entendre" at work, in particularly from Steve. So "double" inevitably came to mean split-personality, "two people in one"; "back" inevitably came to mean "backside", "come" inevitably meant you-know- what, "split" (well, we'd better split now) again you can guess, "bent" (of a similar bent), the list goes on forever. These aren't "nice" double- entendres intended for comedy, they're nasty words to humiliate and cause pain. If I could turn the clock back three years then I would sue my former employers for harassment and I would almost certainly win. I had to take pills after a year of Oxford, so they wouldn't be able to lie their way out of it. Actually, I could still take them to court - the main obstacle being that three years after the fact is a bit late and much of what happened, the details that would be necessary for a case to go to court, has just been obliterated by time. : Smid ============================================== From: flames@flames.cityscape.co.uk (Peter Kr|ger) Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,alt.conspiracy,uk.media,uk.legal Subject: Re: Mike Corley - a (helpful) suggestion Date: Mon Oct 2 05:43:42 1995 In article <812551172snz@objmedia.demon.co.uk>, Snail <snail@objmedia.demon.co.uk> says: >Indeed, I feel that my Usenet access is censored simply because I don't want >to download groups he is partaking in, because of his behaviour. > >I wasn't that bothered, but I am starting to get seriously pissed off >with him. Which takes a lot. Hi Snail This person Corley seems quite interesting for three reasons. I put the following at the end of a post in another thread just to see if he was reading any other threads in uk.media. It seems he is probably not. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Heres an interesting little story from back in the early days of CCD technology. There was this miniature camera which was designed to fit behind the infrared receiver lens of the remote control system (just beside the IR sensor itself) the camera clocked out the data in 256 lines of 256 pixels from a Fairchild chip and fed it out, a line at a time, into the VBI within the TV set itself. The signal could be picked up remotely from a standard license detector van from where it was stripped out of the surrounding RF signal and relayed back to the TV station where it was displayed as a slowscan monochrome image in a corner of the news readers monitor. 939 Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179581
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    - SBS 2000 with ISA and VISTA I have a user who needs access to pop mail from an external source and has been happily using the vista firewall client and outlook 2003 to achieve this. He has now upgraded to Visat and Office 2007. As the existing firewall client is not VISTA compatible he has upgraded to the latest ISA 2004 firewall client but is till unable to pop mail. Questions: IS the ISA 2004 firewall client useble with ISA 2000? Has anyone else made this configuration to work??? Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179575
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    - Share your Forte about the Latest in Computers & Internet Have you submitted articles in koonji.com? Share your expertise in computers and internet. The world needs Mavens like you who loves to learn and gather information and share your knowledge to educate others. Koonji allows you to share, organize and enhance every kind of information in a step by step how-to guide. It redefines the way people search for and use information on the web. It's a great way to educate others more about the computer and internet. Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179572
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    - SBS 2000 to Windows 2003 I have read some posts sorta pertaining to this but is still unclear. I have 2 servers. 1 SBS 2000 and 1 win2k3 standard The 2k3 box is joined to the 2000 domain and is acting as a secondary domain controller. 1) The goal would be to install Exchange 2003 on the 2k3 box and migrate all users mailboxes to the new server. 2) Follow the KB to remove the first Exchange server from the domain 3) Move the FSMO roles to the new server 4) Decommission 1st server Is there any reason that this would not work if the only thing to save is the Exchange and AD Accounts. The ultimate goal would be to add another new server as second domain controller acting as file and print. Thanks in advance! Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179566
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    - will this work? BO2k domain to 2k3 standard domain - but on new hardware, so not 'upgrading' existing OS I found no group specific to Microsoft BackOffice 2000 Server, this group is as close as I found. Hopefully some of you are also familiar with it. I currently have MS BackOffice 2000 Server accross 3 servers, 2 of which are acting as domain controllers for a windows 2000 native mode domain. Exchange 2000 is also on one of the DC's and SQL 2000 is on the other DC. ISA lives by itself on the 3rd. I now have 3 brand new servers on which I have Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard licenses for. I intend on upgrading the existing 2000 domain to a windows server 2003 domain (one forest, one site, one domain). Below is my current plan, which I'm in the middle of researching for issues. I found reference to not being able to upgrade a SBS 2000 domain to a standard windows 2003 domain which is the first thing that may wrinkle my plan... Although I did just find out, thankfully, that SBS 2000 is not the same as BackOffice 2000 Server, I was not sure of this thinking it may have just been a name change. So maybe this issue will not apply to me, but, since I'm assuming this issue takes place when adprep.exe tries to update the schema and sees the SBS custom objects, thus failing it, that the same may happen for BackOffice since it also has a modified schema, like SBS. my plan: 1) fresh install of windows server 2003 R2 on a new server (not trying to upgrade existing backoffice 2000 machines) 2) join new 2k3 machine to the existing backoffice 2000 domain, then promote it as an additional domain controller in the existing domain. 3) transfer all FSMO roles to the new 2k3 domain controller 4) dcpromo down (demote) the existing 2 backoffice 2000 domain controllers back to member servers. that leaves me with only the 2k3 domain controller at which point I assumed I could raise the forest and domain functional levels to windows server 2003. will it work? Not considering any exchange 2000 issues yet, thats next. So assuming for now that there are no exchange servers involved, does the plan for upgrading the domain look like it should work? I will be looking into exchange issues next, as I have already seen refernce to them as well, but one thing at a time... Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179564
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    - Remove or bypass ISA Server from SBS 2000 I want to discontinue using ISA server and instead rely on a hardware firewall. Can I simply use the internet configuration wizard to state I am only using a single NIC and proceed from there or must I physically uninstall ISA. Any sugestions as to how to proceed would be appreciated. Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179561
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    - Message POP UP Is it possible to generate a message on access of a folder? Thanks in advance umeriq Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179560
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    - Terminal Services Logon Windows 2000 SP4. New install and after a day or so the user is unable to logon remotely to the server using terminal services. After a reboot the issue is temporarily resolved. This has been an ongoing issu even after the system has been reloaded several times. Event logs are not full and there dosent seem to be an apparent reason for it to stop. The web server functions normally. Local desktop logon is also restricted until restarted. Shared file acces within the LAN is available. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179556
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    - USER LAN Settings access. Hi, I have a group of users who need on a regular basis to be able to change the LAN settings (more correctly enable or disable proxy settings) in Internet Explorer. I.E. Tools > Internet Options > Connections > LAN Settings. I would like to create a group in AD to achieve this that I can then add the necessary users to. One way I am aware is to add these users to the Domain Admins group, I don't want to do this! Could anyone advise on this please? Thanks Gawen. Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179554
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    - Must Read An excellent resource on ISA Server providing in depth knowledge of configuration, ISA Control service, Single-homed ISA server features and much more. Worth reading!! http://www.brsx.co.uk/Networking/Articles/ISAServer/isaart.asp Tag: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site Tag: 179553

When I type in domain.com name at any workstation I get a blank site. The DNS
on each the workstations points to the server, as it should be. How do I get
the outside domain name to resolve correctly?

How do I resolve this , I think I need to update the routing table in DNS?

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Re: Routing Issue, Same domain name of server and hosted outside site by John

John
Fri Aug 03 22:08:37 CDT 2007

What are you trying to accomplish here? Is your website hosted externally?

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> When I type in domain.com name at any workstation I get a blank site. The
> DNS
> on each the workstations points to the server, as it should be. How do I
> get
> the outside domain name to resolve correctly?
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> How do I resolve this , I think I need to update the routing table in DNS?

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