Hey all:

I have a question regarding repartitioning my Raid 5
configuration. Is there a product that will allow me to
repartition the configuration? Right now, I have two
drives set up C: and D: (also M: for exchange). The
consultant who installed my SBS 2000 didn't think to leave
the C: partition big enough for all of the patches MS
would put out. Is there a way I can resize the C:
(currently 600 MB free) and the D:(currently 5.0 GB free)
partitions? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Juan

Re: Repartitioning a Raid 5 configuration by Phil

Phil
Mon May 03 18:45:56 CDT 2004

Juan:

Please let us know if this RAID 5 is OS (windows disk manager) or BIOS (SCSI
raid card).

If it is windows disk manager RAID 5, may we presume the logical disk C and
D are dynamic disks as opposed to basic?

Third question, do you have the physical room and connections available for
adding additional disk(s).

Fourth question: do you have an absolute positive GOOD backup of EVERY thing
on the SBS box? Have you tested the backup for by restoring a small text
file on C drive, D drive, and restoring an exchange mail box folder?

Phil S.

"Juan Ocasio" <jocasio@globaltechfinancial.com> wrote in message
news:7a8801c43145$5392ca90$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> Hey all:
>
> I have a question regarding repartitioning my Raid 5
> configuration. Is there a product that will allow me to
> repartition the configuration? Right now, I have two
> drives set up C: and D: (also M: for exchange). The
> consultant who installed my SBS 2000 didn't think to leave
> the C: partition big enough for all of the patches MS
> would put out. Is there a way I can resize the C:
> (currently 600 MB free) and the D:(currently 5.0 GB free)
> partitions? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks
>
> Juan


Re: Repartitioning a Raid 5 configuration by Jim

Jim
Mon May 03 21:46:39 CDT 2004

It may be possible that you can recover a lot of space with some
housekeeping. You failed to mention the C: partition size. Sometimes
the partition can get cluttered with gigs of junk like dmp, tmp, log
files that proper backup and general cleanup can fix. You can also
easily move client apps and exchange databases of the C: partition.

"Phil S." <nospam-m-phil-NoSpam@123.net> wrote:

>Juan:
>
>Please let us know if this RAID 5 is OS (windows disk manager) or BIOS (SCSI
>raid card).
>
>If it is windows disk manager RAID 5, may we presume the logical disk C and
>D are dynamic disks as opposed to basic?
>
>Third question, do you have the physical room and connections available for
>adding additional disk(s).
>
>Fourth question: do you have an absolute positive GOOD backup of EVERY thing
>on the SBS box? Have you tested the backup for by restoring a small text
>file on C drive, D drive, and restoring an exchange mail box folder?
>
>Phil S.
>
>"Juan Ocasio" <jocasio@globaltechfinancial.com> wrote in message
>news:7a8801c43145$5392ca90$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>> Hey all:
>>
>> I have a question regarding repartitioning my Raid 5
>> configuration. Is there a product that will allow me to
>> repartition the configuration? Right now, I have two
>> drives set up C: and D: (also M: for exchange). The
>> consultant who installed my SBS 2000 didn't think to leave
>> the C: partition big enough for all of the patches MS
>> would put out. Is there a way I can resize the C:
>> (currently 600 MB free) and the D:(currently 5.0 GB free)
>> partitions? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Juan

Jim B. SBS MVP
remove the mvp to send email

Re: Repartitioning a Raid 5 configuration by D

D
Mon May 03 22:57:02 CDT 2004

Juan,
I have used Partition Magic to reconfigure partitions on a hardware Raid5.
It was a little pricey for one time use on a server, but it worked on a
Win2000 server without a problem.
- D Carroll

"Juan Ocasio" <jocasio@globaltechfinancial.com> wrote in message
news:7a8801c43145$5392ca90$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> Hey all:
>
> I have a question regarding repartitioning my Raid 5
> configuration. Is there a product that will allow me to
> repartition the configuration? Right now, I have two
> drives set up C: and D: (also M: for exchange). The
> consultant who installed my SBS 2000 didn't think to leave
> the C: partition big enough for all of the patches MS
> would put out. Is there a way I can resize the C:
> (currently 600 MB free) and the D:(currently 5.0 GB free)
> partitions? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks
>
> Juan



Re: Repartitioning a Raid 5 configuration by Juan

Juan
Tue May 04 10:06:53 CDT 2004

Phil:

Thanks for the response. I have a Hardware Raid 5
(Adaptec Ultra2 SCSI model AAA-133U2). I curretnly have 4
hard drives attached each one is 9 gigs. My C: drive is 4
gigs and I have all essential installs on this drive
(Backup Exec, Virus,etc). I also have ExchSrvr on this
partition, and I'm not too familiar with Exchange, but it
has mdbdata which I think creates dynamic files which at
some point getr written to the Exchanged database, which
is on my D: Drive (which has 6.5 Gigs available). I'm
trying to free up space on my C: drive so that I can patch
my server. Are there any folders I can delete? For
example, I'm not using SQL Server on this box, and there
seems to be a lot of log files (but I know some are
needed).

Thanks for your help!

Juan
>-----Original Message-----
>It may be possible that you can recover a lot of space
with some
>housekeeping. You failed to mention the C: partition
size. Sometimes
>the partition can get cluttered with gigs of junk like
dmp, tmp, log
>files that proper backup and general cleanup can fix. You
can also
>easily move client apps and exchange databases of the C:
partition.
>
>"Phil S." <nospam-m-phil-NoSpam@123.net> wrote:
>
>>Juan:
>>
>>Please let us know if this RAID 5 is OS (windows disk
manager) or BIOS (SCSI
>>raid card).
>>
>>If it is windows disk manager RAID 5, may we presume the
logical disk C and
>>D are dynamic disks as opposed to basic?
>>
>>Third question, do you have the physical room and
connections available for
>>adding additional disk(s).
>>
>>Fourth question: do you have an absolute positive GOOD
backup of EVERY thing
>>on the SBS box? Have you tested the backup for by
restoring a small text
>>file on C drive, D drive, and restoring an exchange mail
box folder?
>>
>>Phil S.
>>
>>"Juan Ocasio" <jocasio@globaltechfinancial.com> wrote in
message
>>news:7a8801c43145$5392ca90$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>>> Hey all:
>>>
>>> I have a question regarding repartitioning my Raid 5
>>> configuration. Is there a product that will allow me
to
>>> repartition the configuration? Right now, I have two
>>> drives set up C: and D: (also M: for exchange). The
>>> consultant who installed my SBS 2000 didn't think to
leave
>>> the C: partition big enough for all of the patches MS
>>> would put out. Is there a way I can resize the C:
>>> (currently 600 MB free) and the D:(currently 5.0 GB
free)
>>> partitions? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Juan
>
>Jim B. SBS MVP
>remove the mvp to send email
>.
>

Re: Repartitioning a Raid 5 configuration by Juan

Juan
Tue May 04 10:08:12 CDT 2004

D Carroll,

Which version of Partition Magic did you use? I have 5.0

Thanks

Juan
>-----Original Message-----
>Juan,
>I have used Partition Magic to reconfigure partitions on
a hardware Raid5.
>It was a little pricey for one time use on a server, but
it worked on a
>Win2000 server without a problem.
>- D Carroll
>
>"Juan Ocasio" <jocasio@globaltechfinancial.com> wrote in
message
>news:7a8801c43145$5392ca90$a601280a@phx.gbl...
>> Hey all:
>>
>> I have a question regarding repartitioning my Raid 5
>> configuration. Is there a product that will allow me to
>> repartition the configuration? Right now, I have two
>> drives set up C: and D: (also M: for exchange). The
>> consultant who installed my SBS 2000 didn't think to
leave
>> the C: partition big enough for all of the patches MS
>> would put out. Is there a way I can resize the C:
>> (currently 600 MB free) and the D:(currently 5.0 GB
free)
>> partitions? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Juan
>
>
>.
>

Re: Repartitioning a Raid 5 configuration by D

D
Tue May 04 21:25:11 CDT 2004

Juan,
It is now called Volume Manager and costs $700. Partition Magic does not
work on servers.
- D Carroll

"Juan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:802701c431e9$9e515d90$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> D Carroll,
>
> Which version of Partition Magic did you use? I have 5.0
>
> Thanks
>
> Juan
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Juan,
> >I have used Partition Magic to reconfigure partitions on
> a hardware Raid5.
> >It was a little pricey for one time use on a server, but
> it worked on a
> >Win2000 server without a problem.
> >- D Carroll
> >
> >"Juan Ocasio" <jocasio@globaltechfinancial.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:7a8801c43145$5392ca90$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Hey all:
> >>
> >> I have a question regarding repartitioning my Raid 5
> >> configuration. Is there a product that will allow me to
> >> repartition the configuration? Right now, I have two
> >> drives set up C: and D: (also M: for exchange). The
> >> consultant who installed my SBS 2000 didn't think to
> leave
> >> the C: partition big enough for all of the patches MS
> >> would put out. Is there a way I can resize the C:
> >> (currently 600 MB free) and the D:(currently 5.0 GB
> free)
> >> partitions? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Juan
> >
> >
> >.
> >



Re: Repartitioning a Raid 5 configuration by SuperGumby

SuperGumby
Wed May 05 09:20:03 CDT 2004

PM can be 'encouraged' to repartition server HDD's.

Of course, I found this out accidently.

"D Carroll" <dc9902@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:#qtC0gkMEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Juan,
> It is now called Volume Manager and costs $700. Partition Magic does not
> work on servers.
> - D Carroll
>
> "Juan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:802701c431e9$9e515d90$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> > D Carroll,
> >
> > Which version of Partition Magic did you use? I have 5.0
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Juan
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Juan,
> > >I have used Partition Magic to reconfigure partitions on
> > a hardware Raid5.
> > >It was a little pricey for one time use on a server, but
> > it worked on a
> > >Win2000 server without a problem.
> > >- D Carroll
> > >
> > >"Juan Ocasio" <jocasio@globaltechfinancial.com> wrote in
> > message
> > >news:7a8801c43145$5392ca90$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> > >> Hey all:
> > >>
> > >> I have a question regarding repartitioning my Raid 5
> > >> configuration. Is there a product that will allow me to
> > >> repartition the configuration? Right now, I have two
> > >> drives set up C: and D: (also M: for exchange). The
> > >> consultant who installed my SBS 2000 didn't think to
> > leave
> > >> the C: partition big enough for all of the patches MS
> > >> would put out. Is there a way I can resize the C:
> > >> (currently 600 MB free) and the D:(currently 5.0 GB
> > free)
> > >> partitions? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >>
> > >> Juan
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>



Re: Repartitioning a Raid 5 configuration by SuperGumby

SuperGumby
Wed May 05 09:30:22 CDT 2004

the other 'of course' is that MS do not support any method of reassigning
drive space than backup/restore.

It doesn't matter how you do it, if you need to contact MS and have used
other than their suggested method they have the option of refusing to help.

"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
news:#3qDJwqMEHA.1608@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> PM can be 'encouraged' to repartition server HDD's.
>
> Of course, I found this out accidently.
>
> "D Carroll" <dc9902@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:#qtC0gkMEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Juan,
> > It is now called Volume Manager and costs $700. Partition Magic does not
> > work on servers.
> > - D Carroll
> >
> > "Juan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:802701c431e9$9e515d90$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> > > D Carroll,
> > >
> > > Which version of Partition Magic did you use? I have 5.0
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Juan
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >Juan,
> > > >I have used Partition Magic to reconfigure partitions on
> > > a hardware Raid5.
> > > >It was a little pricey for one time use on a server, but
> > > it worked on a
> > > >Win2000 server without a problem.
> > > >- D Carroll
> > > >
> > > >"Juan Ocasio" <jocasio@globaltechfinancial.com> wrote in
> > > message
> > > >news:7a8801c43145$5392ca90$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> > > >> Hey all:
> > > >>
> > > >> I have a question regarding repartitioning my Raid 5
> > > >> configuration. Is there a product that will allow me to
> > > >> repartition the configuration? Right now, I have two
> > > >> drives set up C: and D: (also M: for exchange). The
> > > >> consultant who installed my SBS 2000 didn't think to
> > > leave
> > > >> the C: partition big enough for all of the patches MS
> > > >> would put out. Is there a way I can resize the C:
> > > >> (currently 600 MB free) and the D:(currently 5.0 GB
> > > free)
> > > >> partitions? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >>
> > > >> Juan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >.
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Repartitioning a Raid 5 configuration by Dave

Dave
Wed May 05 10:45:55 CDT 2004

SG is correct, and I would just add a comment to Juan that PM5 can be
"encouraged" to work on Windows 2000 (it will create boot disks only) but
you must have the 5.01 version update, and it is no longer available. Won't
do dynamic disks either.

In fact, PowerQuest (now owned by Symantec) only has updates for PM8. Yet
another reason to always purchase maintenance, as I have learned the hard
way with my 1x version of V2i Protector which was obsolete before it was a
year old... <mutters choice expletives>

DS

"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
news:OR%23C61qMEHA.644@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> the other 'of course' is that MS do not support any method of reassigning
> drive space than backup/restore.
>
> It doesn't matter how you do it, if you need to contact MS and have used
> other than their suggested method they have the option of refusing to
help.
>
> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
> news:#3qDJwqMEHA.1608@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > PM can be 'encouraged' to repartition server HDD's.
> >
> > Of course, I found this out accidently.
> >
> > "D Carroll" <dc9902@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:#qtC0gkMEHA.2468@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Juan,
> > > It is now called Volume Manager and costs $700. Partition Magic does
not
> > > work on servers.
> > > - D Carroll
> > >
> > > "Juan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:802701c431e9$9e515d90$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > D Carroll,
> > > >
> > > > Which version of Partition Magic did you use? I have 5.0
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Juan
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >Juan,
> > > > >I have used Partition Magic to reconfigure partitions on
> > > > a hardware Raid5.
> > > > >It was a little pricey for one time use on a server, but
> > > > it worked on a
> > > > >Win2000 server without a problem.
> > > > >- D Carroll
> > > > >
> > > > >"Juan Ocasio" <jocasio@globaltechfinancial.com> wrote in
> > > > message
> > > > >news:7a8801c43145$5392ca90$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > >> Hey all:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have a question regarding repartitioning my Raid 5
> > > > >> configuration. Is there a product that will allow me to
> > > > >> repartition the configuration? Right now, I have two
> > > > >> drives set up C: and D: (also M: for exchange). The
> > > > >> consultant who installed my SBS 2000 didn't think to
> > > > leave
> > > > >> the C: partition big enough for all of the patches MS
> > > > >> would put out. Is there a way I can resize the C:
> > > > >> (currently 600 MB free) and the D:(currently 5.0 GB
> > > > free)
> > > > >> partitions? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Juan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >.
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Repartitioning a Raid 5 configuration by Phil

Phil
Wed May 05 17:29:25 CDT 2004

Juan:

I am not an "expert". There are some who disagree with me.
Your choice.

1st, exchange of any version should not be on your C: drive, or more
correctly, the same logical drive as your operating system folders. All
messages that enter the Exchange are placed in a temporary Transaction log
file. Later, the messages are copied into individual mailboxes. The Temp
trans log files are not deleted until a full "brick level backup" is done.
Attachments, I think, are handled slightly differently.

2nd I presume you cannot simply add another 9gig HDD to your RAID 5 or you
would not have posted.
(there are a few RAID card software CDs that allow you to boot to the SCIS
card CD, and add drives to the RAID configuration and the CD software and
the SCSI card takes care of the rest. OBVIOUSLY, a good backup is worth
your paycheck.)

As far as SQL log files and expired backups try http://www.mssqlserver.com
and click on the FAQ links. I think there is an article near the bottom. Or
some other kind person can respond with more SQL expertise than I have.

My suggestions are:
1- do, and verify, a brick level backup on your exchange server, which
should result in the deletion of many exchange transaction logs. If nothing
else, use the built-in backup utility of SBS for exchange for the brick
level backup.

2. Go to http://www.smallbizserver.net and look for SBS2000, Exchange
Server, How do I Move Exchange Databases. Then move all the databases to
your D drive. (it is OK to leave the exchange program files on your C
drive).

Hope this helps

Phil S.

"Juan" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:802001c431e9$6ef30da0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> Phil:
>
> Thanks for the response. I have a Hardware Raid 5
> (Adaptec Ultra2 SCSI model AAA-133U2). I curretnly have 4
> hard drives attached each one is 9 gigs. My C: drive is 4
> gigs and I have all essential installs on this drive
> (Backup Exec, Virus,etc). I also have ExchSrvr on this
> partition, and I'm not too familiar with Exchange, but it
> has mdbdata which I think creates dynamic files which at
> some point getr written to the Exchanged database, which
> is on my D: Drive (which has 6.5 Gigs available). I'm
> trying to free up space on my C: drive so that I can patch
> my server. Are there any folders I can delete? For
> example, I'm not using SQL Server on this box, and there
> seems to be a lot of log files (but I know some are
> needed).
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Juan
> >-----Original Message-----
> >It may be possible that you can recover a lot of space
> with some
> >housekeeping. You failed to mention the C: partition
> size. Sometimes
> >the partition can get cluttered with gigs of junk like
> dmp, tmp, log
> >files that proper backup and general cleanup can fix. You
> can also
> >easily move client apps and exchange databases of the C:
> partition.
> >
> >"Phil S." <nospam-m-phil-NoSpam@123.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Juan:
> >>
> >>Please let us know if this RAID 5 is OS (windows disk
> manager) or BIOS (SCSI
> >>raid card).
> >>
> >>If it is windows disk manager RAID 5, may we presume the
> logical disk C and
> >>D are dynamic disks as opposed to basic?
> >>
> >>Third question, do you have the physical room and
> connections available for
> >>adding additional disk(s).
> >>
> >>Fourth question: do you have an absolute positive GOOD
> backup of EVERY thing
> >>on the SBS box? Have you tested the backup for by
> restoring a small text
> >>file on C drive, D drive, and restoring an exchange mail
> box folder?
> >>
> >>Phil S.
> >>
> >>"Juan Ocasio" <jocasio@globaltechfinancial.com> wrote in
> message
> >>news:7a8801c43145$5392ca90$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> >>> Hey all:
> >>>
> >>> I have a question regarding repartitioning my Raid 5
> >>> configuration. Is there a product that will allow me
> to
> >>> repartition the configuration? Right now, I have two
> >>> drives set up C: and D: (also M: for exchange). The
> >>> consultant who installed my SBS 2000 didn't think to
> leave
> >>> the C: partition big enough for all of the patches MS
> >>> would put out. Is there a way I can resize the C:
> >>> (currently 600 MB free) and the D:(currently 5.0 GB
> free)
> >>> partitions? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Juan
> >
> >Jim B. SBS MVP
> >remove the mvp to send email
> >.
> >