Removing Router from Network?

I'm writing about an SBS 2000 server which is having slow VPN connection
speeds and am considering a hardware change. I have written about my
problems earlier (VPN Sloooow). Although I received good feedback I haven't
seen any improvement in speeds. I'd like any suggestions on whether the
hardware change will improve the speed and how to implement the change.

The current network is using a 192K SDSL connection. (When we originally
set up the network we had ADSL on a Verizon line with no static IP. That's
why we installed the router.)

DSL WAN: 155.x.x.x
DSL LAN: 216.x.x.111
Linksys WAN: 216.x.x.112
Linksys LAN: 192.168.16.99
SBS WAN: 192.168.16.1
SBS LAN: 192.168.1.2

I am considering removing the Linksys router, putting the SBS server on the
'net'. The Linksys is the BEFSX41. Given the slow speeds of the VPN we are
currently having, I'm wondering if the router is causing the problems. The
ISP tech said that this could be causing the problem.

Questions:
- Can anyone confirm or reject my suspicions about the router? Is it likely
that removing it will speed up the VPN traffic?
- Would the SBS server be safe with a public address? I'm feeling a bit
cautious here. We have ISA. Is that enough?
- If we go ahead with the change, how should I reconfigure the server with
the new address?

--
Michael Rudnick
news@RCC-pcSupport.com

Steve
Mon Feb 09 12:18:18 CST 2004

Michael Rudnick wrote:

> I'm writing about an SBS 2000 server which is having slow VPN
> connection speeds and am considering a hardware change. I have
> written about my problems earlier (VPN Sloooow). Although I received
> good feedback I haven't seen any improvement in speeds. I'd like any
> suggestions on whether the hardware change will improve the speed and
> how to implement the change.
>
> The current network is using a 192K SDSL connection. (When we
> originally set up the network we had ADSL on a Verizon line with no
> static IP. That's why we installed the router.)
>
> DSL WAN: 155.x.x.x
> DSL LAN: 216.x.x.111
> Linksys WAN: 216.x.x.112
> Linksys LAN: 192.168.16.99
> SBS WAN: 192.168.16.1
> SBS LAN: 192.168.1.2
>
> I am considering removing the Linksys router, putting the SBS server
> on the 'net'. The Linksys is the BEFSX41. Given the slow speeds of
> the VPN we are currently having, I'm wondering if the router is
> causing the problems. The ISP tech said that this could be causing
> the problem.
>
> Questions:
> - Can anyone confirm or reject my suspicions about the router? Is it
> likely that removing it will speed up the VPN traffic?
> - Would the SBS server be safe with a public address? I'm feeling a
> bit cautious here. We have ISA. Is that enough?
> - If we go ahead with the change, how should I reconfigure the server
> with the new address?

I doubt that the router is in the way. Mind you, with just 192k
connection speed, I wouldn't expect VPN activity to be lightning fast
anyway.

Also, what are you trying to run over the VPN?

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Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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Michael
Mon Feb 09 12:53:46 CST 2004

"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in
news:um5bYkz7DHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:

> Michael Rudnick wrote:
>
>> I'm writing about an SBS 2000 server which is having slow VPN
>> connection speeds and am considering a hardware change. I have
>> written about my problems earlier (VPN Sloooow). Although I received
>> good feedback I haven't seen any improvement in speeds. I'd like any
>> suggestions on whether the hardware change will improve the speed and
>> how to implement the change.
>>
>> The current network is using a 192K SDSL connection. (When we
>> originally set up the network we had ADSL on a Verizon line with no
>> static IP. That's why we installed the router.)
>>
>> DSL WAN: 155.x.x.x
>> DSL LAN: 216.x.x.111
>> Linksys WAN: 216.x.x.112
>> Linksys LAN: 192.168.16.99
>> SBS WAN: 192.168.16.1
>> SBS LAN: 192.168.1.2
>>
>> I am considering removing the Linksys router, putting the SBS server
>> on the 'net'. The Linksys is the BEFSX41. Given the slow speeds of
>> the VPN we are currently having, I'm wondering if the router is
>> causing the problems. The ISP tech said that this could be causing
>> the problem.
>>
>> Questions:
>> - Can anyone confirm or reject my suspicions about the router? Is it
>> likely that removing it will speed up the VPN traffic?
>> - Would the SBS server be safe with a public address? I'm feeling a
>> bit cautious here. We have ISA. Is that enough?
>> - If we go ahead with the change, how should I reconfigure the server
>> with the new address?
>
> I doubt that the router is in the way. Mind you, with just 192k
> connection speed, I wouldn't expect VPN activity to be lightning fast
> anyway.
>
> Also, what are you trying to run over the VPN?
>

Just browsing the folders on the network is intolerable. It can take over a
minute to move between folders. I have another client who has an ISDN line
and it's much faster when I browse the folders on their server.

So you don't think it's worth removing the router?

--
Michael Rudnick
news@RCC-pcSupport.com

Steve
Mon Feb 09 18:14:32 CST 2004

Michael Rudnick wrote:

> "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in
> news:um5bYkz7DHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
>
> > Michael Rudnick wrote:
> >
> >> I'm writing about an SBS 2000 server which is having slow VPN
> >> connection speeds and am considering a hardware change. I have
> >> written about my problems earlier (VPN Sloooow). Although I
> received >> good feedback I haven't seen any improvement in speeds.
> I'd like any >> suggestions on whether the hardware change will
> improve the speed and >> how to implement the change.
> >>
> >> The current network is using a 192K SDSL connection. (When we
> >> originally set up the network we had ADSL on a Verizon line with no
> >> static IP. That's why we installed the router.)
> >>
> >> DSL WAN: 155.x.x.x
> >> DSL LAN: 216.x.x.111
> >> Linksys WAN: 216.x.x.112
> >> Linksys LAN: 192.168.16.99
> >> SBS WAN: 192.168.16.1
> >> SBS LAN: 192.168.1.2
> >>
> >> I am considering removing the Linksys router, putting the SBS
> server >> on the 'net'. The Linksys is the BEFSX41. Given the slow
> speeds of >> the VPN we are currently having, I'm wondering if the
> router is >> causing the problems. The ISP tech said that this could
> be causing >> the problem.
> >>
> >> Questions:
> >> - Can anyone confirm or reject my suspicions about the router? Is
> it >> likely that removing it will speed up the VPN traffic?
> >> - Would the SBS server be safe with a public address? I'm feeling a
> >> bit cautious here. We have ISA. Is that enough?
> >> - If we go ahead with the change, how should I reconfigure the
> server >> with the new address?
> >
> > I doubt that the router is in the way. Mind you, with just 192k
> > connection speed, I wouldn't expect VPN activity to be lightning
> > fast anyway.
> >
> > Also, what are you trying to run over the VPN?
> >
>
> Just browsing the folders on the network is intolerable. It can take
> over a minute to move between folders. I have another client who has
> an ISDN line and it's much faster when I browse the folders on their
> server.

I would compare DNS and WINS settings for the established VPN
connections and compare.

>
> So you don't think it's worth removing the router?

I doubt that it's making a difference, since the VPN packets are simply
being forwarded to the SBS.

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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Michael
Thu Feb 12 13:14:08 CST 2004

"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in
news:#lszcr27DHA.2044@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:

> Michael Rudnick wrote:
>
>> "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:um5bYkz7DHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
>>
>> > Michael Rudnick wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm writing about an SBS 2000 server which is having slow VPN
>> >> connection speeds and am considering a hardware change. I have
>> >> written about my problems earlier (VPN Sloooow). Although I
>> received >> good feedback I haven't seen any improvement in speeds.
>> I'd like any >> suggestions on whether the hardware change will
>> improve the speed and >> how to implement the change.
>> >>
>> >> The current network is using a 192K SDSL connection. (When we
>> >> originally set up the network we had ADSL on a Verizon line with no
>> >> static IP. That's why we installed the router.)
>> >>
>> >> DSL WAN: 155.x.x.x
>> >> DSL LAN: 216.x.x.111
>> >> Linksys WAN: 216.x.x.112
>> >> Linksys LAN: 192.168.16.99
>> >> SBS WAN: 192.168.16.1
>> >> SBS LAN: 192.168.1.2
>> >>
>> >> I am considering removing the Linksys router, putting the SBS
>> server >> on the 'net'. The Linksys is the BEFSX41. Given the slow
>> speeds of >> the VPN we are currently having, I'm wondering if the
>> router is >> causing the problems. The ISP tech said that this could
>> be causing >> the problem.
>> >>
>> >> Questions:
>> >> - Can anyone confirm or reject my suspicions about the router? Is
>> it >> likely that removing it will speed up the VPN traffic?
>> >> - Would the SBS server be safe with a public address? I'm feeling a
>> >> bit cautious here. We have ISA. Is that enough?
>> >> - If we go ahead with the change, how should I reconfigure the
>> server >> with the new address?
>> >
>> > I doubt that the router is in the way. Mind you, with just 192k
>> > connection speed, I wouldn't expect VPN activity to be lightning
>> > fast anyway.
>> >
>> > Also, what are you trying to run over the VPN?
>> >
>>
>> Just browsing the folders on the network is intolerable. It can take
>> over a minute to move between folders. I have another client who has
>> an ISDN line and it's much faster when I browse the folders on their
>> server.
>
> I would compare DNS and WINS settings for the established VPN
> connections and compare.
>
>>
>> So you don't think it's worth removing the router?
>
> I doubt that it's making a difference, since the VPN packets are simply
> being forwarded to the SBS.
>

What specifically should I look for in the DNS and WINS settings? Does it
help at all to mention that when I connect to the server with Terminal
Server Client, the browsing is fine. It's only when I'm accessing the
shared folders on the server that it's very slow.

Thanks.

--
Michael Rudnick
news@RCC-pcSupport.com

Steve
Fri Feb 13 22:16:09 CST 2004

Michael Rudnick wrote:

> "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in
> news:#lszcr27DHA.2044@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
>
> > Michael Rudnick wrote:
> >
> >> "Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in
> >> news:um5bYkz7DHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
> >>
> >> > Michael Rudnick wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm writing about an SBS 2000 server which is having slow VPN
> >> >> connection speeds and am considering a hardware change. I have
> >> >> written about my problems earlier (VPN Sloooow). Although I
> >> received >> good feedback I haven't seen any improvement in speeds.
> >> I'd like any >> suggestions on whether the hardware change will
> >> improve the speed and >> how to implement the change.
> >> >>
> >> >> The current network is using a 192K SDSL connection. (When we
> >> >> originally set up the network we had ADSL on a Verizon line
> with no >> >> static IP. That's why we installed the router.)
> >> >>
> >> >> DSL WAN: 155.x.x.x
> >> >> DSL LAN: 216.x.x.111
> >> >> Linksys WAN: 216.x.x.112
> >> >> Linksys LAN: 192.168.16.99
> >> >> SBS WAN: 192.168.16.1
> >> >> SBS LAN: 192.168.1.2
> >> >>
> >> >> I am considering removing the Linksys router, putting the SBS
> >> server >> on the 'net'. The Linksys is the BEFSX41. Given the slow
> >> speeds of >> the VPN we are currently having, I'm wondering if the
> >> router is >> causing the problems. The ISP tech said that this
> could >> be causing >> the problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> Questions:
> >> >> - Can anyone confirm or reject my suspicions about the router?
> Is >> it >> likely that removing it will speed up the VPN traffic?
> >> >> - Would the SBS server be safe with a public address? I'm
> feeling a >> >> bit cautious here. We have ISA. Is that enough?
> >> >> - If we go ahead with the change, how should I reconfigure the
> >> server >> with the new address?
> >> >
> >> > I doubt that the router is in the way. Mind you, with just 192k
> >> > connection speed, I wouldn't expect VPN activity to be lightning
> >> > fast anyway.
> >> >
> >> > Also, what are you trying to run over the VPN?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Just browsing the folders on the network is intolerable. It can
> take >> over a minute to move between folders. I have another client
> who has >> an ISDN line and it's much faster when I browse the
> folders on their >> server.
> >
> > I would compare DNS and WINS settings for the established VPN
> > connections and compare.
> >
> >>
> >> So you don't think it's worth removing the router?
> >
> > I doubt that it's making a difference, since the VPN packets are
> > simply being forwarded to the SBS.
> >
>
> What specifically should I look for in the DNS and WINS settings?
> Does it help at all to mention that when I connect to the server with
> Terminal Server Client, the browsing is fine. It's only when I'm
> accessing the shared folders on the server that it's very slow.

I would simply be looking for differences between the acceptable VPN
and the slow one. I'd also be doing basic tests to verify proper name
resolution to correct IPs.

--
Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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