Hello All.

I have a remote office of 3 PCs that I was going set up
as a workgroup. DSL is not available in the location, so
each PC is going to dialup to the main office (SBS 2000)
to get email and files.

However, once the PC is connected, it does not seem to be
receiving internal DNS information. I canNOT ping the
server by name, only IP address. Also, no internet
access, no email and no network browsing (accept by IP
address).

Another location uses VPN over DSL flawlessly.

What am I missing? What should the remote local IP,
subnet and gateway be? How might ISA server need to be
configured?

TIA,

Corey

Re: Remote Workgroup Dialup Problem by Merv

Merv
Wed May 26 21:25:25 CDT 2004

Some references...

Set up SBS 2000 for remote access
http://www.smallbizserver.net/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=108

Set up remote clients for VPN access to SBS 2000
http://www.smallbizserver.net/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=109

Also, for name resolution, in the VPN connectoid of the each remote
workstation, go into the TCP/IP properties and set the DNS to the IP address
of the SBS server (probably 192.168.16.2). It would also help if you could
set up the workgroup name for the remote workstations to be the same name as
the SBS domain (if SBS domain is: mycompany.local, set remote workgroup name
to mycompany).

In addition, make sure that the private subnet at the remote location is
different from that on the SBS domain (if SBS domain is 192.168.16.x, make
the remote location something like 192.168.17.x; any private range will do,
just as long as it's not the same as the SBS domain IP range).

As you probably know, a VPN using dial-up Internet access is going to be
painfully slow for your remote users; even more so if the remote Internet
connection is shared. One way to speed this up a little would be to set up
a cheap WinXP Pro workstation on the SBS LAN. Then have the remote users
VPN into the SBS LAN and fire up an RDC session to that WinXP Pro
workstation. Of course, only one remote workstation at a time could access
the SBS LAN WinXP Pro workstation.

Another way to speed up there link would be to have the telephone company
install an ISDN line. Somewhat more expensive but your remote users would
have a better "experience".

Not sure what "files" you're planning on shoving down the VPN tunnel, but
you may find that this is all but useless using a dial-up connection.

Just my $.02

--
Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
===================================
"Corey" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:12fa001c44363$a8cdcf20$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> Hello All.
>
> I have a remote office of 3 PCs that I was going set up
> as a workgroup. DSL is not available in the location, so
> each PC is going to dialup to the main office (SBS 2000)
> to get email and files.
>
> However, once the PC is connected, it does not seem to be
> receiving internal DNS information. I canNOT ping the
> server by name, only IP address. Also, no internet
> access, no email and no network browsing (accept by IP
> address).
>
> Another location uses VPN over DSL flawlessly.
>
> What am I missing? What should the remote local IP,
> subnet and gateway be? How might ISA server need to be
> configured?
>
> TIA,
>
> Corey



Re: Remote Workgroup Dialup Problem by anonymous

anonymous
Thu May 27 10:40:24 CDT 2004

Thanks Merv. I will give it a shot today.


>-----Original Message-----
>Some references...
>
>Set up SBS 2000 for remote access
>http://www.smallbizserver.net/DesktopDefault.aspx?
tabid=108
>
>Set up remote clients for VPN access to SBS 2000
>http://www.smallbizserver.net/DesktopDefault.aspx?
tabid=109
>
>Also, for name resolution, in the VPN connectoid of the
each remote
>workstation, go into the TCP/IP properties and set the
DNS to the IP address
>of the SBS server (probably 192.168.16.2). It would
also help if you could
>set up the workgroup name for the remote workstations to
be the same name as
>the SBS domain (if SBS domain is: mycompany.local, set
remote workgroup name
>to mycompany).
>
>In addition, make sure that the private subnet at the
remote location is
>different from that on the SBS domain (if SBS domain is
192.168.16.x, make
>the remote location something like 192.168.17.x; any
private range will do,
>just as long as it's not the same as the SBS domain IP
range).
>
>As you probably know, a VPN using dial-up Internet
access is going to be
>painfully slow for your remote users; even more so if
the remote Internet
>connection is shared. One way to speed this up a little
would be to set up
>a cheap WinXP Pro workstation on the SBS LAN. Then have
the remote users
>VPN into the SBS LAN and fire up an RDC session to that
WinXP Pro
>workstation. Of course, only one remote workstation at
a time could access
>the SBS LAN WinXP Pro workstation.
>
>Another way to speed up there link would be to have the
telephone company
>install an ISDN line. Somewhat more expensive but your
remote users would
>have a better "experience".
>
>Not sure what "files" you're planning on shoving down
the VPN tunnel, but
>you may find that this is all but useless using a dial-
up connection.
>
>Just my $.02
>
>--
>Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
>===================================
>"Corey" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:12fa001c44363$a8cdcf20$a001280a@phx.gbl...
>> Hello All.
>>
>> I have a remote office of 3 PCs that I was going set up
>> as a workgroup. DSL is not available in the location,
so
>> each PC is going to dialup to the main office (SBS
2000)
>> to get email and files.
>>
>> However, once the PC is connected, it does not seem to
be
>> receiving internal DNS information. I canNOT ping the
>> server by name, only IP address. Also, no internet
>> access, no email and no network browsing (accept by IP
>> address).
>>
>> Another location uses VPN over DSL flawlessly.
>>
>> What am I missing? What should the remote local IP,
>> subnet and gateway be? How might ISA server need to be
>> configured?
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Corey
>
>
>.
>

Re: Remote Workgroup Dialup Problem by Corey

Corey
Fri May 28 10:10:52 CDT 2004

Merv,

I did as you suggested and still had the same results.
Is there anything I should look for on the server?
RRAS? ISA?

I can ping everything on the main SBS LAN by IP Address.
I can ping everything on the main SBS LAN by FQDN. I can
NOT ping by machine name. I can NOT access the internet.

Thanks again for your suggestions.

Corey


>-----Original Message-----
>Some references...
>
>Set up SBS 2000 for remote access
>http://www.smallbizserver.net/DesktopDefault.aspx?
tabid=108
>
>Set up remote clients for VPN access to SBS 2000
>http://www.smallbizserver.net/DesktopDefault.aspx?
tabid=109
>
>Also, for name resolution, in the VPN connectoid of the
each remote
>workstation, go into the TCP/IP properties and set the
DNS to the IP address
>of the SBS server (probably 192.168.16.2). It would
also help if you could
>set up the workgroup name for the remote workstations to
be the same name as
>the SBS domain (if SBS domain is: mycompany.local, set
remote workgroup name
>to mycompany).
>
>In addition, make sure that the private subnet at the
remote location is
>different from that on the SBS domain (if SBS domain is
192.168.16.x, make
>the remote location something like 192.168.17.x; any
private range will do,
>just as long as it's not the same as the SBS domain IP
range).
>
>As you probably know, a VPN using dial-up Internet
access is going to be
>painfully slow for your remote users; even more so if
the remote Internet
>connection is shared. One way to speed this up a little
would be to set up
>a cheap WinXP Pro workstation on the SBS LAN. Then have
the remote users
>VPN into the SBS LAN and fire up an RDC session to that
WinXP Pro
>workstation. Of course, only one remote workstation at
a time could access
>the SBS LAN WinXP Pro workstation.
>
>Another way to speed up there link would be to have the
telephone company
>install an ISDN line. Somewhat more expensive but your
remote users would
>have a better "experience".
>
>Not sure what "files" you're planning on shoving down
the VPN tunnel, but
>you may find that this is all but useless using a dial-
up connection.
>
>Just my $.02
>
>--
>Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
>===================================
>"Corey" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:12fa001c44363$a8cdcf20$a001280a@phx.gbl...
>> Hello All.
>>
>> I have a remote office of 3 PCs that I was going set up
>> as a workgroup. DSL is not available in the location,
so
>> each PC is going to dialup to the main office (SBS
2000)
>> to get email and files.
>>
>> However, once the PC is connected, it does not seem to
be
>> receiving internal DNS information. I canNOT ping the
>> server by name, only IP address. Also, no internet
>> access, no email and no network browsing (accept by IP
>> address).
>>
>> Another location uses VPN over DSL flawlessly.
>>
>> What am I missing? What should the remote local IP,
>> subnet and gateway be? How might ISA server need to be
>> configured?
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Corey
>
>
>.
>

Re: Remote Workgroup Dialup Problem by Merv

Merv
Fri May 28 11:12:42 CDT 2004

When the remote users establish a VPN, are they assigned an IP address that
is in the same subnet as the SBS server (default would be 192.168.16.x) or
are they assigned from a static pool of IP addresses in a different subnet?
You should be able to check in RRAS to get this info.

--
Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
===================================

"Corey" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1433601c444c5$f73f8dc0$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> Merv,
>
> I did as you suggested and still had the same results.
> Is there anything I should look for on the server?
> RRAS? ISA?
>
> I can ping everything on the main SBS LAN by IP Address.
> I can ping everything on the main SBS LAN by FQDN. I can
> NOT ping by machine name. I can NOT access the internet.
>
> Thanks again for your suggestions.
>
> Corey
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Some references...
> >
> >Set up SBS 2000 for remote access
> >http://www.smallbizserver.net/DesktopDefault.aspx?
> tabid=108
> >
> >Set up remote clients for VPN access to SBS 2000
> >http://www.smallbizserver.net/DesktopDefault.aspx?
> tabid=109
> >
> >Also, for name resolution, in the VPN connectoid of the
> each remote
> >workstation, go into the TCP/IP properties and set the
> DNS to the IP address
> >of the SBS server (probably 192.168.16.2). It would
> also help if you could
> >set up the workgroup name for the remote workstations to
> be the same name as
> >the SBS domain (if SBS domain is: mycompany.local, set
> remote workgroup name
> >to mycompany).
> >
> >In addition, make sure that the private subnet at the
> remote location is
> >different from that on the SBS domain (if SBS domain is
> 192.168.16.x, make
> >the remote location something like 192.168.17.x; any
> private range will do,
> >just as long as it's not the same as the SBS domain IP
> range).
> >
> >As you probably know, a VPN using dial-up Internet
> access is going to be
> >painfully slow for your remote users; even more so if
> the remote Internet
> >connection is shared. One way to speed this up a little
> would be to set up
> >a cheap WinXP Pro workstation on the SBS LAN. Then have
> the remote users
> >VPN into the SBS LAN and fire up an RDC session to that
> WinXP Pro
> >workstation. Of course, only one remote workstation at
> a time could access
> >the SBS LAN WinXP Pro workstation.
> >
> >Another way to speed up there link would be to have the
> telephone company
> >install an ISDN line. Somewhat more expensive but your
> remote users would
> >have a better "experience".
> >
> >Not sure what "files" you're planning on shoving down
> the VPN tunnel, but
> >you may find that this is all but useless using a dial-
> up connection.
> >
> >Just my $.02
> >
> >--
> >Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
> >===================================
> >"Corey" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:12fa001c44363$a8cdcf20$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Hello All.
> >>
> >> I have a remote office of 3 PCs that I was going set up
> >> as a workgroup. DSL is not available in the location,
> so
> >> each PC is going to dialup to the main office (SBS
> 2000)
> >> to get email and files.
> >>
> >> However, once the PC is connected, it does not seem to
> be
> >> receiving internal DNS information. I canNOT ping the
> >> server by name, only IP address. Also, no internet
> >> access, no email and no network browsing (accept by IP
> >> address).
> >>
> >> Another location uses VPN over DSL flawlessly.
> >>
> >> What am I missing? What should the remote local IP,
> >> subnet and gateway be? How might ISA server need to be
> >> configured?
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >>
> >> Corey
> >
> >
> >.
> >