the drive on our server that was running SBS 2000 crashed on us. we
managed to take the backup of it after it failed.

so we made our Backup Domain Controller running Windows 2000 server
Service pack 4 as the PDC.

reinstallation seems to be the way to go at this point.

and reinstalling SBS doesn't seem straight forward.Firstly, I cannot
install Active Directory without being in the domain, it says setup
has detected a duplicate DNS Domain Name on the network(which is
correct becoz the server crashed on an existing domain). it cannot
continue with the setup when joined to the domain as well.

when I join the new computer(on which sbs2000 is being reinstalled) to
the existing domain, ADMT does not work ..it says i need to transfers
users & computers using different domains.

any clues on this would be great.

thank you.

Re: Reinstalling SBS 2000 by Cris

Cris
Sat May 31 14:48:11 CDT 2008

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at this point, you should probably contact Jeff Middleton at =
sbsmigration.com about doing a "swing migration"

to the best of my knowledge, there weren't any papers or recommendations =
about introducing a SBS 2000 server into an existing AD, although there =
is a paper on doing that for SBS 2003. The theory should pretty much =
be the same.



--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
-------------------------------------------------
Microsoft MVPs
Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
Real World Answers
---------------------------------------------------------
Please do not contact me directly regarding issues


<weirdscientist78@gmail.com> wrote in message =
news:e2729a44-0a10-465f-b5c9-c9122c694605@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...=

the drive on our server that was running SBS 2000 crashed on us. we
managed to take the backup of it after it failed.

so we made our Backup Domain Controller running Windows 2000 server
Service pack 4 as the PDC.

reinstallation seems to be the way to go at this point.

and reinstalling SBS doesn't seem straight forward.Firstly, I cannot
install Active Directory without being in the domain, it says setup
has detected a duplicate DNS Domain Name on the network(which is
correct becoz the server crashed on an existing domain). it cannot
continue with the setup when joined to the domain as well.

when I join the new computer(on which sbs2000 is being reinstalled) to
the existing domain, ADMT does not work ..it says i need to transfers
users & computers using different domains.

any clues on this would be great.

thank you.
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ft=20
MVPs<BR>&nbsp;Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)<BR>Real =
World=20
Answers<BR>---------------------------------------------------------<BR>P=
lease=20
do not contact me directly regarding issues</DIV>
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=
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=
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Re: Reinstalling SBS 2000 by Merv

Merv
Sat May 31 17:37:23 CDT 2008

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Thinking out loud here...

SG posted a reply to a similar situation a few years back...

Installation of SBS 2000 onto Current AD=20
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000/b=
rowse_thread/thread/7df95743b42feb4b/e7467a4ce811f9d9?hl=3Den&lnk=3Dst&q=3D=
reinstall+sbs+2000+into+existing+domain#e7467a4ce811f9d9
-----------------
Use one of your 'vanilla' W2K install CDs to add the new machine as a DC =
into your existing domain/forest. Transfer the AD FSMO roles to it and =
make it a GC, then upgrade it to SBS.
-----------------

As long you used the same server name as the original SBS 2000, I =
believe you could then restore your backup to the (in-placed upgraded) =
SBS server.

--=20
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D
"Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crisnospamhanna@cpunospamservices.net> wrote in =
message news:ONybDd1wIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
at this point, you should probably contact Jeff Middleton at =
sbsmigration.com about doing a "swing migration"

to the best of my knowledge, there weren't any papers or =
recommendations about introducing a SBS 2000 server into an existing AD, =
although there is a paper on doing that for SBS 2003. The theory =
should pretty much be the same.



--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
-------------------------------------------------
Microsoft MVPs
Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
Real World Answers
---------------------------------------------------------
Please do not contact me directly regarding issues


<weirdscientist78@gmail.com> wrote in message =
news:e2729a44-0a10-465f-b5c9-c9122c694605@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...=

the drive on our server that was running SBS 2000 crashed on us. we
managed to take the backup of it after it failed.

so we made our Backup Domain Controller running Windows 2000 server
Service pack 4 as the PDC.

reinstallation seems to be the way to go at this point.

and reinstalling SBS doesn't seem straight forward.Firstly, I cannot
install Active Directory without being in the domain, it says setup
has detected a duplicate DNS Domain Name on the network(which is
correct becoz the server crashed on an existing domain). it cannot
continue with the setup when joined to the domain as well.

when I join the new computer(on which sbs2000 is being reinstalled) =
to
the existing domain, ADMT does not work ..it says i need to =
transfers
users & computers using different domains.

any clues on this would be great.

thank you.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SG posted a reply to a similar =
situation a few=20
years back...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Installation of SBS 2000 onto Current =
AD <BR><A=20
href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.backoffice.smallb=
iz2000/browse_thread/thread/7df95743b42feb4b/e7467a4ce811f9d9?hl=3Den&amp=
;lnk=3Dst&amp;q=3Dreinstall+sbs+2000+into+existing+domain#e7467a4ce811f9d=
9">http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz200=
0/browse_thread/thread/7df95743b42feb4b/e7467a4ce811f9d9?hl=3Den&amp;lnk=3D=
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R>-----------------<BR>Use=20
one of your 'vanilla' W2K install CDs to add the new machine as a DC =
into your=20
existing domain/forest. Transfer the AD FSMO roles to it and make it a =
GC, then=20
upgrade it to SBS.<BR>-----------------</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As long you used the same server name =
as the=20
original SBS 2000, I believe you could then restore your backup to the=20
(in-placed upgraded) SBS server.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>-- <BR>Merv&nbsp; Porter&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
[SBS-MVP]<BR>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR></FONT>"Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)"=20
&lt;<A=20
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nospamservices.net</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:ONybDd1wIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl">news:ONybDd1wIHA.4376=
@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>at this point, you should probably =
contact Jeff=20
Middleton at sbsmigration.com about doing a "swing =
migration"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to the best of my knowledge, there =
weren't any=20
papers or recommendations about introducing a SBS 2000 server into an =
existing=20
AD, although there is a paper on doing that for SBS 2003.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
The=20
theory should pretty much be the same.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Cris Hanna=20
=
[SBS-MVP]<BR>-------------------------------------------------<BR>Microso=
ft=20
MVPs<BR>&nbsp;Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)<BR>Real =
World=20
=
Answers<BR>---------------------------------------------------------<BR>P=
lease=20
do not contact me directly regarding issues</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>&lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:weirdscientist78@gmail.com">weirdscientist78@gmail.com</A>=
&gt;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:e2729a44-0a10-465f-b5c9-c9122c694605@e39g2000hsf.googlegroup=
s.com">news:e2729a44-0a10-465f-b5c9-c9122c694605@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups=
.com</A>...</DIV>the=20
drive on our server that was running SBS 2000 crashed on us. =
we<BR>managed=20
to take the backup of it after it failed.<BR><BR>so we made our =
Backup=20
Domain Controller running Windows 2000 server<BR>Service pack 4 as =
the=20
PDC.<BR><BR>reinstallation seems to be the way to go at this=20
point.<BR><BR>and reinstalling SBS doesn't seem straight =
forward.Firstly, I=20
cannot<BR>install Active Directory without being in the domain, it =
says=20
setup<BR>has detected a duplicate DNS Domain Name on the =
network(which=20
is<BR>correct becoz the server crashed on an existing domain). it=20
cannot<BR>continue with the setup when joined to the domain as=20
well.<BR><BR>when I join the new computer(on which sbs2000 is being=20
reinstalled) to<BR>the existing domain, ADMT does not work ..it says =
i need=20
to transfers<BR>users &amp; computers using&nbsp; different=20
domains.<BR><BR>any clues on this would be great.<BR><BR>thank=20
you.</BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Re: Reinstalling SBS 2000 by SuperGumby

SuperGumby
Sat May 31 17:48:46 CDT 2008

I can run but I can't hide :-)

May need some AD 'tidy up' . (Jeff's notes/tools could be useful)

Better idea would be to recover the existing installation from backup (LFN
issues and all) taken before the error.
Bog standard 'Disaster Recovery'.

"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OcBnm72wIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Thinking out loud here...

SG posted a reply to a similar situation a few years back...

Installation of SBS 2000 onto Current AD
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000/browse_thread/thread/7df95743b42feb4b/e7467a4ce811f9d9?hl=en&lnk=st&q=reinstall+sbs+2000+into+existing+domain#e7467a4ce811f9d9
-----------------
Use one of your 'vanilla' W2K install CDs to add the new machine as a DC
into your existing domain/forest. Transfer the AD FSMO roles to it and make
it a GC, then upgrade it to SBS.
-----------------

As long you used the same server name as the original SBS 2000, I believe
you could then restore your backup to the (in-placed upgraded) SBS server.

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================
"Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crisnospamhanna@cpunospamservices.net> wrote in
message news:ONybDd1wIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
at this point, you should probably contact Jeff Middleton at
sbsmigration.com about doing a "swing migration"

to the best of my knowledge, there weren't any papers or recommendations
about introducing a SBS 2000 server into an existing AD, although there is a
paper on doing that for SBS 2003. The theory should pretty much be the
same.



--
Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
-------------------------------------------------
Microsoft MVPs
Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
Real World Answers
---------------------------------------------------------
Please do not contact me directly regarding issues


<weirdscientist78@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e2729a44-0a10-465f-b5c9-c9122c694605@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
the drive on our server that was running SBS 2000 crashed on us. we
managed to take the backup of it after it failed.

so we made our Backup Domain Controller running Windows 2000 server
Service pack 4 as the PDC.

reinstallation seems to be the way to go at this point.

and reinstalling SBS doesn't seem straight forward.Firstly, I cannot
install Active Directory without being in the domain, it says setup
has detected a duplicate DNS Domain Name on the network(which is
correct becoz the server crashed on an existing domain). it cannot
continue with the setup when joined to the domain as well.

when I join the new computer(on which sbs2000 is being reinstalled) to
the existing domain, ADMT does not work ..it says i need to transfers
users & computers using different domains.

any clues on this would be great.

thank you.



Re: Reinstalling SBS 2000 by Merv

Merv
Sat May 31 18:34:25 CDT 2008

But the old "BDC" has been promoted to the "PDC". Wouldn't that complicate
a standard 'disaster recovery'?

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================


"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
news:e$qJ%23B3wIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I can run but I can't hide :-)
>
> May need some AD 'tidy up' . (Jeff's notes/tools could be useful)
>
> Better idea would be to recover the existing installation from backup (LFN
> issues and all) taken before the error.
> Bog standard 'Disaster Recovery'.
>
> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OcBnm72wIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thinking out loud here...
>
> SG posted a reply to a similar situation a few years back...
>
> Installation of SBS 2000 onto Current AD
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000/browse_thread/thread/7df95743b42feb4b/e7467a4ce811f9d9?hl=en&lnk=st&q=reinstall+sbs+2000+into+existing+domain#e7467a4ce811f9d9
> -----------------
> Use one of your 'vanilla' W2K install CDs to add the new machine as a DC
> into your existing domain/forest. Transfer the AD FSMO roles to it and
> make it a GC, then upgrade it to SBS.
> -----------------
>
> As long you used the same server name as the original SBS 2000, I believe
> you could then restore your backup to the (in-placed upgraded) SBS server.
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> ============================
> "Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crisnospamhanna@cpunospamservices.net> wrote in
> message news:ONybDd1wIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> at this point, you should probably contact Jeff Middleton at
> sbsmigration.com about doing a "swing migration"
>
> to the best of my knowledge, there weren't any papers or recommendations
> about introducing a SBS 2000 server into an existing AD, although there is
> a paper on doing that for SBS 2003. The theory should pretty much be the
> same.
>
>
>
> --
> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
> -------------------------------------------------
> Microsoft MVPs
> Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
> Real World Answers
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
>
>
> <weirdscientist78@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e2729a44-0a10-465f-b5c9-c9122c694605@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> the drive on our server that was running SBS 2000 crashed on us. we
> managed to take the backup of it after it failed.
>
> so we made our Backup Domain Controller running Windows 2000 server
> Service pack 4 as the PDC.
>
> reinstallation seems to be the way to go at this point.
>
> and reinstalling SBS doesn't seem straight forward.Firstly, I cannot
> install Active Directory without being in the domain, it says setup
> has detected a duplicate DNS Domain Name on the network(which is
> correct becoz the server crashed on an existing domain). it cannot
> continue with the setup when joined to the domain as well.
>
> when I join the new computer(on which sbs2000 is being reinstalled) to
> the existing domain, ADMT does not work ..it says i need to transfers
> users & computers using different domains.
>
> any clues on this would be great.
>
> thank you.
>



Re: Reinstalling SBS 2000 by Merv

Merv
Sat May 31 18:37:07 CDT 2008

But the old "BDC" has been promoted to the "PDC". Wouldn't that complicate
a standard 'disaster recovery'?

--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================

"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
news:e$qJ%23B3wIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I can run but I can't hide :-)
>
> May need some AD 'tidy up' . (Jeff's notes/tools could be useful)
>
> Better idea would be to recover the existing installation from backup (LFN
> issues and all) taken before the error.
> Bog standard 'Disaster Recovery'.
>
> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OcBnm72wIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thinking out loud here...
>
> SG posted a reply to a similar situation a few years back...
>
> Installation of SBS 2000 onto Current AD
> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000/browse_thread/thread/7df95743b42feb4b/e7467a4ce811f9d9?hl=en&lnk=st&q=reinstall+sbs+2000+into+existing+domain#e7467a4ce811f9d9
> -----------------
> Use one of your 'vanilla' W2K install CDs to add the new machine as a DC
> into your existing domain/forest. Transfer the AD FSMO roles to it and
> make it a GC, then upgrade it to SBS.
> -----------------
>
> As long you used the same server name as the original SBS 2000, I believe
> you could then restore your backup to the (in-placed upgraded) SBS server.
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> ============================
> "Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crisnospamhanna@cpunospamservices.net> wrote in
> message news:ONybDd1wIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> at this point, you should probably contact Jeff Middleton at
> sbsmigration.com about doing a "swing migration"
>
> to the best of my knowledge, there weren't any papers or recommendations
> about introducing a SBS 2000 server into an existing AD, although there is
> a paper on doing that for SBS 2003. The theory should pretty much be the
> same.
>
>
>
> --
> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
> -------------------------------------------------
> Microsoft MVPs
> Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
> Real World Answers
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
>
>
> <weirdscientist78@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e2729a44-0a10-465f-b5c9-c9122c694605@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> the drive on our server that was running SBS 2000 crashed on us. we
> managed to take the backup of it after it failed.
>
> so we made our Backup Domain Controller running Windows 2000 server
> Service pack 4 as the PDC.
>
> reinstallation seems to be the way to go at this point.
>
> and reinstalling SBS doesn't seem straight forward.Firstly, I cannot
> install Active Directory without being in the domain, it says setup
> has detected a duplicate DNS Domain Name on the network(which is
> correct becoz the server crashed on an existing domain). it cannot
> continue with the setup when joined to the domain as well.
>
> when I join the new computer(on which sbs2000 is being reinstalled) to
> the existing domain, ADMT does not work ..it says i need to transfers
> users & computers using different domains.
>
> any clues on this would be great.
>
> thank you.
>



Re: Reinstalling SBS 2000 by SuperGumby

SuperGumby
Sat May 31 19:00:37 CDT 2008

yes

Maybe I should have said:
Better idea would have been to recover the existing... before the 2nd DC was
made primary (OH NO, we don't have them! do we?).

Wondering whether recovering the original and then rolling back the 2nd to
'pre-error state' would be quicker, not sure.

Easier is probably the 2 stage re-install.

"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23iVb%23c3wIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> But the old "BDC" has been promoted to the "PDC". Wouldn't that
> complicate a standard 'disaster recovery'?
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> ============================
>
> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
> news:e$qJ%23B3wIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I can run but I can't hide :-)
>>
>> May need some AD 'tidy up' . (Jeff's notes/tools could be useful)
>>
>> Better idea would be to recover the existing installation from backup
>> (LFN issues and all) taken before the error.
>> Bog standard 'Disaster Recovery'.
>>
>> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OcBnm72wIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Thinking out loud here...
>>
>> SG posted a reply to a similar situation a few years back...
>>
>> Installation of SBS 2000 onto Current AD
>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000/browse_thread/thread/7df95743b42feb4b/e7467a4ce811f9d9?hl=en&lnk=st&q=reinstall+sbs+2000+into+existing+domain#e7467a4ce811f9d9
>> -----------------
>> Use one of your 'vanilla' W2K install CDs to add the new machine as a DC
>> into your existing domain/forest. Transfer the AD FSMO roles to it and
>> make it a GC, then upgrade it to SBS.
>> -----------------
>>
>> As long you used the same server name as the original SBS 2000, I believe
>> you could then restore your backup to the (in-placed upgraded) SBS
>> server.
>>
>> --
>> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
>> ============================
>> "Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crisnospamhanna@cpunospamservices.net> wrote in
>> message news:ONybDd1wIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> at this point, you should probably contact Jeff Middleton at
>> sbsmigration.com about doing a "swing migration"
>>
>> to the best of my knowledge, there weren't any papers or recommendations
>> about introducing a SBS 2000 server into an existing AD, although there
>> is a paper on doing that for SBS 2003. The theory should pretty much be
>> the same.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
>> -------------------------------------------------
>> Microsoft MVPs
>> Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
>> Real World Answers
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
>>
>>
>> <weirdscientist78@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e2729a44-0a10-465f-b5c9-c9122c694605@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> the drive on our server that was running SBS 2000 crashed on us. we
>> managed to take the backup of it after it failed.
>>
>> so we made our Backup Domain Controller running Windows 2000 server
>> Service pack 4 as the PDC.
>>
>> reinstallation seems to be the way to go at this point.
>>
>> and reinstalling SBS doesn't seem straight forward.Firstly, I cannot
>> install Active Directory without being in the domain, it says setup
>> has detected a duplicate DNS Domain Name on the network(which is
>> correct becoz the server crashed on an existing domain). it cannot
>> continue with the setup when joined to the domain as well.
>>
>> when I join the new computer(on which sbs2000 is being reinstalled) to
>> the existing domain, ADMT does not work ..it says i need to transfers
>> users & computers using different domains.
>>
>> any clues on this would be great.
>>
>> thank you.
>>
>
>



Re: Reinstalling SBS 2000 by weirdscientist78

weirdscientist78
Sun Jun 01 11:39:22 CDT 2008

thanks for your replies.

apparently you cannot install sbs while on an existing domain. I had
to do an install of SBS on a separate network.

used the ldifde tool to export users from the existing PDC and
imported it back using a thumb drive.
ldifde retains the structure of AD(more or less), blanks the password,
disables user accts, does not retain permissions...but it works.

now am in the process of restoring Exchange 2000.

I have already installed Exchange 2000 on sbs(which is on a separate
network) ...but I read somewhere that it has to be installed in
disaster recovery mode. is that true? if so, I can go ahead reinstall
it again.

how do i create DFS links?

thanks for your help.


On May 31, 8:00 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...@your.nellie> wrote:
> yes
>
> Maybe I should have said:
> Better idea would have been to recover the existing... before the 2nd DC was
> made primary (OH NO, we don't have them! do we?).
>
> Wondering whether recovering the original and then rolling back the 2nd to
> 'pre-error state' would be quicker, not sure.
>
> Easier is probably the 2 stage re-install.
>
> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:%23iVb%23c3wIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> > But the old "BDC" has been promoted to the "PDC". Wouldn't that
> > complicate a standard 'disaster recovery'?
>
> > --
> > Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> > ============================
>
> > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...@your.nellie> wrote in message
> >news:e$qJ%23B3wIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>I can run but I can't hide :-)
>
> >> May need some AD 'tidy up' . (Jeff's notes/tools could be useful)
>
> >> Better idea would be to recover the existing installation from backup
> >> (LFN issues and all) taken before the error.
> >> Bog standard 'Disaster Recovery'.
>
> >> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:OcBnm72wIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> Thinking out loud here...
>
> >> SG posted a reply to a similar situation a few years back...
>
> >> Installation of SBS 2000 onto Current AD
> >>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz20...
> >> -----------------
> >> Use one of your 'vanilla' W2K install CDs to add the new machine as a DC
> >> into your existing domain/forest. Transfer the AD FSMO roles to it and
> >> make it a GC, then upgrade it to SBS.
> >> -----------------
>
> >> As long you used the same server name as the original SBS 2000, I believe
> >> you could then restore your backup to the (in-placed upgraded) SBS
> >> server.
>
> >> --
> >> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> >> ============================
> >> "Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crisnospamha...@cpunospamservices.net> wrote in
> >> messagenews:ONybDd1wIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> at this point, you should probably contact Jeff Middleton at
> >> sbsmigration.com about doing a "swing migration"
>
> >> to the best of my knowledge, there weren't any papers or recommendations
> >> about introducing a SBS 2000 server into an existing AD, although there
> >> is a paper on doing that for SBS 2003. The theory should pretty much be
> >> the same.
>
> >> --
> >> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
> >> -------------------------------------------------
> >> Microsoft MVPs
> >> Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
> >> Real World Answers
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >> Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
>
> >> <weirdscientis...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:e2729a44-0a10-465f-b5c9-c9122c694605@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >> the drive on our server that was running SBS 2000 crashed on us. we
> >> managed to take the backup of it after it failed.
>
> >> so we made our Backup Domain Controller running Windows 2000 server
> >> Service pack 4 as the PDC.
>
> >> reinstallation seems to be the way to go at this point.
>
> >> and reinstalling SBS doesn't seem straight forward.Firstly, I cannot
> >> install Active Directory without being in the domain, it says setup
> >> has detected a duplicate DNS Domain Name on the network(which is
> >> correct becoz the server crashed on an existing domain). it cannot
> >> continue with the setup when joined to the domain as well.
>
> >> when I join the new computer(on which sbs2000 is being reinstalled) to
> >> the existing domain, ADMT does not work ..it says i need to transfers
> >> users & computers using different domains.
>
> >> any clues on this would be great.
>
> >> thank you.






Re: Reinstalling SBS 2000 by weirdscientist78

weirdscientist78
Sun Jun 01 16:00:06 CDT 2008

sorry about the question on DFS links..it was in the admin tools menu.

now I reinstalled sbs 2000. am in the process of trying to recover
Exchange...copying the .edb and .stm files have taken up the last 3
hours...and itz not done yet.

ok..now when it does get done...do I run setup /disasterrecovery(i
have already installed Exchange 2000 but not in disasterrecovery mode)
or eseutil /c?

any help will be great

thanks.
On Jun 1, 12:39 pm, weirdscientis...@gmail.com wrote:
> thanks for your replies.
>
> apparently you cannot install sbs while on an existing domain. I had
> to do an install of SBS on a separate network.
>
> used the ldifde tool to export users from the existing PDC and
> imported it back using a thumb drive.
> ldifde retains the structure of AD(more or less), blanks the password,
> disables user accts, does not retain permissions...but it works.
>
> now am in the process of restoring Exchange 2000.
>
> I have already installed Exchange 2000 on sbs(which is on a separate
> network) ...but I read somewhere that it has to be installed in
> disaster recovery mode. is that true? if so, I can go ahead reinstall
> it again.
>
> how do i create DFS links?
>
> thanks for your help.
>
> On May 31, 8:00 pm, "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...@your.nellie> wrote:
>
> > yes
>
> > Maybe I should have said:
> > Better idea would have been to recover the existing... before the 2nd DC was
> > made primary (OH NO, we don't have them! do we?).
>
> > Wondering whether recovering the original and then rolling back the 2nd to
> > 'pre-error state' would be quicker, not sure.
>
> > Easier is probably the 2 stage re-install.
>
> > "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:%23iVb%23c3wIHA.4916@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> > > But the old "BDC" has been promoted to the "PDC". Wouldn't that
> > > complicate a standard 'disaster recovery'?
>
> > > --
> > > Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> > > ============================
>
> > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <n...@your.nellie> wrote in message
> > >news:e$qJ%23B3wIHA.704@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > >>I can run but I can't hide :-)
>
> > >> May need some AD 'tidy up' . (Jeff's notes/tools could be useful)
>
> > >> Better idea would be to recover the existing installation from backup
> > >> (LFN issues and all) taken before the error.
> > >> Bog standard 'Disaster Recovery'.
>
> > >> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:OcBnm72wIHA.4876@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > >> Thinking out loud here...
>
> > >> SG posted a reply to a similar situation a few years back...
>
> > >> Installation of SBS 2000 onto Current AD
> > >>http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz20...
> > >> -----------------
> > >> Use one of your 'vanilla' W2K install CDs to add the new machine as a DC
> > >> into your existing domain/forest. Transfer the AD FSMO roles to it and
> > >> make it a GC, then upgrade it to SBS.
> > >> -----------------
>
> > >> As long you used the same server name as the original SBS 2000, I believe
> > >> you could then restore your backup to the (in-placed upgraded) SBS
> > >> server.
>
> > >> --
> > >> Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
> > >> ============================
> > >> "Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)" <crisnospamha...@cpunospamservices.net> wrote in
> > >> messagenews:ONybDd1wIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > >> at this point, you should probably contact Jeff Middleton at
> > >> sbsmigration.com about doing a "swing migration"
>
> > >> to the best of my knowledge, there weren't any papers or recommendations
> > >> about introducing a SBS 2000 server into an existing AD, although there
> > >> is a paper on doing that for SBS 2003. The theory should pretty much be
> > >> the same.
>
> > >> --
> > >> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
> > >> -------------------------------------------------
> > >> Microsoft MVPs
> > >> Independent Experts (MVPs do not work for MS)
> > >> Real World Answers
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Please do not contact me directly regarding issues
>
> > >> <weirdscientis...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:e2729a44-0a10-465f-b5c9-c9122c694605@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > >> the drive on our server that was running SBS 2000 crashed on us. we
> > >> managed to take the backup of it after it failed.
>
> > >> so we made our Backup Domain Controller running Windows 2000 server
> > >> Service pack 4 as the PDC.
>
> > >> reinstallation seems to be the way to go at this point.
>
> > >> and reinstalling SBS doesn't seem straight forward.Firstly, I cannot
> > >> install Active Directory without being in the domain, it says setup
> > >> has detected a duplicate DNS Domain Name on the network(which is
> > >> correct becoz the server crashed on an existing domain). it cannot
> > >> continue with the setup when joined to the domain as well.
>
> > >> when I join the new computer(on which sbs2000 is being reinstalled) to
> > >> the existing domain, ADMT does not work ..it says i need to transfers
> > >> users & computers using different domains.
>
> > >> any clues on this would be great.
>
> > >> thank you.