Pop/SMTP problems

Hi,

I know the pop3-connector isn't the best way to retrieve your mail and
we're planning to switch to smtp soon. But till then I have some big
problems here (SBS 2k):

- people are getting unwanted mails from our server. It seems the pop3-
connector is "sending out" messages again that have a different (domain)
name then ours. The probable result is that people are receiving those
messages twice and complain about it. Is there a way to prevent this?

- one advice I did get was to turn off basic authentication (and
anonymous authentication). This didn't work because no mail was getting
through (I probably must change something at the client-side, too?).
Unfortunately when we came back online the mailserver collected all the
messages at our ISP, but didn't deliver them in the mailboxes (probably
'cause no one was authenticated?). My question: where are those messages?

In a couple of days I hope we have a new mx-record and bSMTP to deliver
mail in a good way. But till then I must use the ol' pop-3-collector in a
safe way and I really want to know what happened to all our mail that
just vanished.

Thanks,
David

Javier
Wed Nov 19 12:22:09 CST 2003

I don't know about the 2nd issue... but the first one is a known problem
with the POP3 connector + using a global POP3 account + cc/bcc addresses in
messages. AFAIK-> There's nothing you can do about that (short of changing
any of these 3 factors).

--
-Javier

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"David" <monk@xs5all.nl> wrote in message
news:Xns9438B3EEC6FE3monkxs4allnl@194.109.133.20...
> Hi,
>
> I know the pop3-connector isn't the best way to retrieve your mail and
> we're planning to switch to smtp soon. But till then I have some big
> problems here (SBS 2k):
>
> - people are getting unwanted mails from our server. It seems the pop3-
> connector is "sending out" messages again that have a different (domain)
> name then ours. The probable result is that people are receiving those
> messages twice and complain about it. Is there a way to prevent this?
>
> - one advice I did get was to turn off basic authentication (and
> anonymous authentication). This didn't work because no mail was getting
> through (I probably must change something at the client-side, too?).
> Unfortunately when we came back online the mailserver collected all the
> messages at our ISP, but didn't deliver them in the mailboxes (probably
> 'cause no one was authenticated?). My question: where are those messages?
>
> In a couple of days I hope we have a new mx-record and bSMTP to deliver
> mail in a good way. But till then I must use the ol' pop-3-collector in a
> safe way and I really want to know what happened to all our mail that
> just vanished.
>
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
>

David
Thu Nov 20 03:31:01 CST 2003

> "David" <monk@xs5all.nl> wrote in message
> news:Xns9438B3EEC6FE3monkxs4allnl@194.109.133.20...

>> - people are getting unwanted mails from our server. It seems the
>> pop3- connector is "sending out" messages again that have a different
>> (domain) name then ours.

"Javier Gomez" <javier_gomez@remove.this.bit.engineer.com> wrote in
news:eDPj2nsrDHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl:
> problem with the POP3 connector + using a global POP3 account + cc/bcc
> addresses in messages. AFAIK-> There's nothing you can do about that
> (short of changing any of these 3 factors).
hmm, I wonder what the reason could be behind this 'feature', because it
looks kinda stupid to me. Can you recommend a solution until the mx-records
are ready? I was thinking of putting one userbox in the popconnector and
let outlook filter all the mail for a couple of days....or is the
popconnector still relaying messages?

> -Javier
><< SBS ROCKS !!! >>
ehmm....well not all of it actually...;-)

>> - one advice I did get was to turn off basic authentication (and
>> anonymous authentication). This didn't work because no mail was
>> getting through (I probably must change something at the client-side,
>> too?). Unfortunately when we came back online the mailserver
>> collected all the messages at our ISP, but didn't deliver them in the
>> mailboxes (probably 'cause no one was authenticated?). My question:
>> where are those messages?
ehm...anyone?

Javier
Thu Nov 20 06:53:15 CST 2003

> hmm, I wonder what the reason could be behind this 'feature', because it
> looks kinda stupid to me. Can you recommend a solution until the
mx-records
> are ready? I was thinking of putting one userbox in the popconnector and
> let outlook filter all the mail for a couple of days....or is the
> popconnector still relaying messages?

I don't know the specific reason for this problem... sometime ago someone
said something about the way the headers work and when the POP3 connector
comes has to modify those headers and it gets confused somehow. If you use
individual POP3 accounts that will take care of the problem... so that will
work.

--
-Javier

<< SBS ROCKS !!! >>

David
Thu Nov 20 08:55:56 CST 2003

"Javier Gomez" <javier_gomez@remove.this.bit.engineer.com> wrote in
news:u$RtDV2rDHA.2880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl:

>> hmm, I wonder what the reason could be behind this 'feature', because
>> it looks kinda stupid to me. Can you recommend a solution until the
> mx-records
>> are ready? I was thinking of putting one userbox in the popconnector
>> and let outlook filter all the mail for a couple of days....or is the
>> popconnector still relaying messages?
>
> I don't know the specific reason for this problem... sometime ago
> someone said something about the way the headers work and when the
> POP3 connector comes has to modify those headers and it gets confused
> somehow. If you use individual POP3 accounts that will take care of
> the problem... so that will work.
Unfortunately we have about 50 e-mailaliases and only 5 pop-mailboxes. The
purpose of the global account was just that: exchange will sort out the
aliases. It's a shame that this doesn't work.....and even gives you a name
as a spammer.


anyway, thanks for your answers...