History: -

I did an upgrade to my servers, basically I had SBS 2003 with 50 users on
it, the server was old so we bought a new server. I built the server to be a
2003 Server in the same domain, server name, same settings the lot etc and
then installed Exchange with all the same settings etc etc

I then manually re-created all the users (easiest way as I only have 50
users, didnâ??t want to swing or migrate, wanted to leave current config in
place while I built the other).

I then Exmerged all the email, copied all the data and profiles, switched
off the old servers plugged in the new, re-added all the PCâ??s to the new
domain.

Issue: -

When I log in (with admin privileges) my profile comes down correctly, my
email works, printers are available and policies are present. All works fine.

When a normal user logs in (with Domain User privileges) firstly the group
policies aren't coming into effect. No got any more info than this at the
min, no errors no nothing! I backed up and restored my GPO's from the last
server.

Secondly when my users log on and download there profile form the server
they don't see all of the profile. I restored there profiles from backup.
When I look on the PC when they are logged in in documents and settings at
the profile they can only see certain folders: -

Users Documents
Desktop
Favorites
Start Menu
WINDOWS

They can't see: -

Application Data
Local Settings
etc
etc

I thought at first it wasn't downloading those folders but if I log on as an
administrator and click on the cached copy of there profile all the folders
are there, it's only when they are logged in that they can't see it.

It shouldn't be a permissions thing on the folder as they can download it.

It's not that they are hidden as I clicked to show hidden files and folders.
This is causing outlook to fail as they can't see the application data
folder. Also no printers etc

Anyone any ideas as to whatâ??s happening here? Not sure if thereâ??s an overall
permissions issue because the way I got round this problem was to put all my
users into the Domain Admins group, everything works fine now but I need to
get them all out of Domain Admins asap!

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Mike

Re: Permissions issue with users in Domain Users not able to see profi by Marina

Marina
Sun Oct 17 19:14:39 CDT 2004

Hi Ziguana,

Did you rejoin the workstations to the SBS? Although you kept the same name,
the SID has changed, so you will need to rejoin.

--
Regards,

Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP

"Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:8BC8CB78-B2F9-497E-979E-4297C0AC479B@microsoft.com...
> History: -
>
> I did an upgrade to my servers, basically I had SBS 2003 with 50 users on
> it, the server was old so we bought a new server. I built the server to be
a
> 2003 Server in the same domain, server name, same settings the lot etc and
> then installed Exchange with all the same settings etc etc
>
> I then manually re-created all the users (easiest way as I only have 50
> users, didn't want to swing or migrate, wanted to leave current config in
> place while I built the other).
>
> I then Exmerged all the email, copied all the data and profiles, switched
> off the old servers plugged in the new, re-added all the PC's to the new
> domain.
>
> Issue: -
>
> When I log in (with admin privileges) my profile comes down correctly, my
> email works, printers are available and policies are present. All works
fine.
>
> When a normal user logs in (with Domain User privileges) firstly the group
> policies aren't coming into effect. No got any more info than this at the
> min, no errors no nothing! I backed up and restored my GPO's from the last
> server.
>
> Secondly when my users log on and download there profile form the server
> they don't see all of the profile. I restored there profiles from backup.
> When I look on the PC when they are logged in in documents and settings
at
> the profile they can only see certain folders: -
>
> Users Documents
> Desktop
> Favorites
> Start Menu
> WINDOWS
>
> They can't see: -
>
> Application Data
> Local Settings
> etc
> etc
>
> I thought at first it wasn't downloading those folders but if I log on as
an
> administrator and click on the cached copy of there profile all the
folders
> are there, it's only when they are logged in that they can't see it.
>
> It shouldn't be a permissions thing on the folder as they can download it.
>
> It's not that they are hidden as I clicked to show hidden files and
folders.
> This is causing outlook to fail as they can't see the application data
> folder. Also no printers etc
>
> Anyone any ideas as to what's happening here? Not sure if there's an
overall
> permissions issue because the way I got round this problem was to put all
my
> users into the Domain Admins group, everything works fine now but I need
to
> get them all out of Domain Admins asap!
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Mike
>



Re: Permissions issue with users in Domain Users not able to see p by Ziguana

Ziguana
Sun Oct 17 21:45:04 CDT 2004

Yes I re-added all the workstations to the domain, one at a time adding a
domain user account (administrator) everytime.

Any other ideas?

It works when someone with admin or domain admin rights logs in. Not when
users with just domain user rights.

"Hopeing none of the users realise they have extra privaliges at the min"!!

Thanks


"Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> Hi Ziguana,
>
> Did you rejoin the workstations to the SBS? Although you kept the same name,
> the SID has changed, so you will need to rejoin.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Marina
> Microsoft SBS-MVP
>
> "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> news:8BC8CB78-B2F9-497E-979E-4297C0AC479B@microsoft.com...
> > History: -
> >
> > I did an upgrade to my servers, basically I had SBS 2003 with 50 users on
> > it, the server was old so we bought a new server. I built the server to be
> a
> > 2003 Server in the same domain, server name, same settings the lot etc and
> > then installed Exchange with all the same settings etc etc
> >
> > I then manually re-created all the users (easiest way as I only have 50
> > users, didn't want to swing or migrate, wanted to leave current config in
> > place while I built the other).
> >
> > I then Exmerged all the email, copied all the data and profiles, switched
> > off the old servers plugged in the new, re-added all the PC's to the new
> > domain.
> >
> > Issue: -
> >
> > When I log in (with admin privileges) my profile comes down correctly, my
> > email works, printers are available and policies are present. All works
> fine.
> >
> > When a normal user logs in (with Domain User privileges) firstly the group
> > policies aren't coming into effect. No got any more info than this at the
> > min, no errors no nothing! I backed up and restored my GPO's from the last
> > server.
> >
> > Secondly when my users log on and download there profile form the server
> > they don't see all of the profile. I restored there profiles from backup.
> > When I look on the PC when they are logged in in documents and settings
> at
> > the profile they can only see certain folders: -
> >
> > Users Documents
> > Desktop
> > Favorites
> > Start Menu
> > WINDOWS
> >
> > They can't see: -
> >
> > Application Data
> > Local Settings
> > etc
> > etc
> >
> > I thought at first it wasn't downloading those folders but if I log on as
> an
> > administrator and click on the cached copy of there profile all the
> folders
> > are there, it's only when they are logged in that they can't see it.
> >
> > It shouldn't be a permissions thing on the folder as they can download it.
> >
> > It's not that they are hidden as I clicked to show hidden files and
> folders.
> > This is causing outlook to fail as they can't see the application data
> > folder. Also no printers etc
> >
> > Anyone any ideas as to what's happening here? Not sure if there's an
> overall
> > permissions issue because the way I got round this problem was to put all
> my
> > users into the Domain Admins group, everything works fine now but I need
> to
> > get them all out of Domain Admins asap!
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Mike
> >
>
>
>

Re: Permissions issue with users in Domain Users not able to see p by Marina

Marina
Mon Oct 18 05:29:24 CDT 2004

Hi Ziguana,

What if you add the domain users to the local administrators group on the
computer?

--
Regards,

Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP

"Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:B3D7DD94-4C69-4DA3-9F13-8A63340186EA@microsoft.com...
> Yes I re-added all the workstations to the domain, one at a time adding a
> domain user account (administrator) everytime.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> It works when someone with admin or domain admin rights logs in. Not when
> users with just domain user rights.
>
> "Hopeing none of the users realise they have extra privaliges at the
min"!!
>
> Thanks
>
>
> "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Hi Ziguana,
> >
> > Did you rejoin the workstations to the SBS? Although you kept the same
name,
> > the SID has changed, so you will need to rejoin.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Marina
> > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> >
> > "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> > news:8BC8CB78-B2F9-497E-979E-4297C0AC479B@microsoft.com...
> > > History: -
> > >
> > > I did an upgrade to my servers, basically I had SBS 2003 with 50 users
on
> > > it, the server was old so we bought a new server. I built the server
to be
> > a
> > > 2003 Server in the same domain, server name, same settings the lot etc
and
> > > then installed Exchange with all the same settings etc etc
> > >
> > > I then manually re-created all the users (easiest way as I only have
50
> > > users, didn't want to swing or migrate, wanted to leave current config
in
> > > place while I built the other).
> > >
> > > I then Exmerged all the email, copied all the data and profiles,
switched
> > > off the old servers plugged in the new, re-added all the PC's to the
new
> > > domain.
> > >
> > > Issue: -
> > >
> > > When I log in (with admin privileges) my profile comes down correctly,
my
> > > email works, printers are available and policies are present. All
works
> > fine.
> > >
> > > When a normal user logs in (with Domain User privileges) firstly the
group
> > > policies aren't coming into effect. No got any more info than this at
the
> > > min, no errors no nothing! I backed up and restored my GPO's from the
last
> > > server.
> > >
> > > Secondly when my users log on and download there profile form the
server
> > > they don't see all of the profile. I restored there profiles from
backup.
> > > When I look on the PC when they are logged in in documents and
settings
> > at
> > > the profile they can only see certain folders: -
> > >
> > > Users Documents
> > > Desktop
> > > Favorites
> > > Start Menu
> > > WINDOWS
> > >
> > > They can't see: -
> > >
> > > Application Data
> > > Local Settings
> > > etc
> > > etc
> > >
> > > I thought at first it wasn't downloading those folders but if I log on
as
> > an
> > > administrator and click on the cached copy of there profile all the
> > folders
> > > are there, it's only when they are logged in that they can't see it.
> > >
> > > It shouldn't be a permissions thing on the folder as they can download
it.
> > >
> > > It's not that they are hidden as I clicked to show hidden files and
> > folders.
> > > This is causing outlook to fail as they can't see the application data
> > > folder. Also no printers etc
> > >
> > > Anyone any ideas as to what's happening here? Not sure if there's an
> > overall
> > > permissions issue because the way I got round this problem was to put
all
> > my
> > > users into the Domain Admins group, everything works fine now but I
need
> > to
> > > get them all out of Domain Admins asap!
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> >
> >
> >



Re: Permissions issue with users in Domain Users not able to see p by Ziguana

Ziguana
Mon Nov 08 00:45:02 CST 2004

Marina I still have this problem. Yes adding the domain users to the local
admin group fixes it but I don't want to go this far. I don't want to give
the users admin permissions to there own machine.

What has changed that they would need this? Are there any other solutions?

Thanks



"Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> Hi Ziguana,
>
> What if you add the domain users to the local administrators group on the
> computer?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Marina
> Microsoft SBS-MVP
>
> "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> news:B3D7DD94-4C69-4DA3-9F13-8A63340186EA@microsoft.com...
> > Yes I re-added all the workstations to the domain, one at a time adding a
> > domain user account (administrator) everytime.
> >
> > Any other ideas?
> >
> > It works when someone with admin or domain admin rights logs in. Not when
> > users with just domain user rights.
> >
> > "Hopeing none of the users realise they have extra privaliges at the
> min"!!
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ziguana,
> > >
> > > Did you rejoin the workstations to the SBS? Although you kept the same
> name,
> > > the SID has changed, so you will need to rejoin.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Marina
> > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > >
> > > "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> > > news:8BC8CB78-B2F9-497E-979E-4297C0AC479B@microsoft.com...
> > > > History: -
> > > >
> > > > I did an upgrade to my servers, basically I had SBS 2003 with 50 users
> on
> > > > it, the server was old so we bought a new server. I built the server
> to be
> > > a
> > > > 2003 Server in the same domain, server name, same settings the lot etc
> and
> > > > then installed Exchange with all the same settings etc etc
> > > >
> > > > I then manually re-created all the users (easiest way as I only have
> 50
> > > > users, didn't want to swing or migrate, wanted to leave current config
> in
> > > > place while I built the other).
> > > >
> > > > I then Exmerged all the email, copied all the data and profiles,
> switched
> > > > off the old servers plugged in the new, re-added all the PC's to the
> new
> > > > domain.
> > > >
> > > > Issue: -
> > > >
> > > > When I log in (with admin privileges) my profile comes down correctly,
> my
> > > > email works, printers are available and policies are present. All
> works
> > > fine.
> > > >
> > > > When a normal user logs in (with Domain User privileges) firstly the
> group
> > > > policies aren't coming into effect. No got any more info than this at
> the
> > > > min, no errors no nothing! I backed up and restored my GPO's from the
> last
> > > > server.
> > > >
> > > > Secondly when my users log on and download there profile form the
> server
> > > > they don't see all of the profile. I restored there profiles from
> backup.
> > > > When I look on the PC when they are logged in in documents and
> settings
> > > at
> > > > the profile they can only see certain folders: -
> > > >
> > > > Users Documents
> > > > Desktop
> > > > Favorites
> > > > Start Menu
> > > > WINDOWS
> > > >
> > > > They can't see: -
> > > >
> > > > Application Data
> > > > Local Settings
> > > > etc
> > > > etc
> > > >
> > > > I thought at first it wasn't downloading those folders but if I log on
> as
> > > an
> > > > administrator and click on the cached copy of there profile all the
> > > folders
> > > > are there, it's only when they are logged in that they can't see it.
> > > >
> > > > It shouldn't be a permissions thing on the folder as they can download
> it.
> > > >
> > > > It's not that they are hidden as I clicked to show hidden files and
> > > folders.
> > > > This is causing outlook to fail as they can't see the application data
> > > > folder. Also no printers etc
> > > >
> > > > Anyone any ideas as to what's happening here? Not sure if there's an
> > > overall
> > > > permissions issue because the way I got round this problem was to put
> all
> > > my
> > > > users into the Domain Admins group, everything works fine now but I
> need
> > > to
> > > > get them all out of Domain Admins asap!
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

Re: Permissions issue with users in Domain Users not able to see p by Marina

Marina
Mon Nov 08 04:09:39 CST 2004

Hi Ziguana,

What doesn't work? You will only need to add them to the local admin group
when you rejoin the clients. After all the applications have been installed,
you can remove them from the admin group. It will however depend on the
program they are using, if they need to be a local admin or not. Office only
needs it during installation, after that, a user can use the program without
problems.

--
Regards,

Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP

"Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:808D16CF-B12B-44D2-BF5B-C97B691AA269@microsoft.com...
> Marina I still have this problem. Yes adding the domain users to the local
> admin group fixes it but I don't want to go this far. I don't want to give
> the users admin permissions to there own machine.
>
> What has changed that they would need this? Are there any other solutions?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Hi Ziguana,
> >
> > What if you add the domain users to the local administrators group on
the
> > computer?
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Marina
> > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> >
> > "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> > news:B3D7DD94-4C69-4DA3-9F13-8A63340186EA@microsoft.com...
> > > Yes I re-added all the workstations to the domain, one at a time
adding a
> > > domain user account (administrator) everytime.
> > >
> > > Any other ideas?
> > >
> > > It works when someone with admin or domain admin rights logs in. Not
when
> > > users with just domain user rights.
> > >
> > > "Hopeing none of the users realise they have extra privaliges at the
> > min"!!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Ziguana,
> > > >
> > > > Did you rejoin the workstations to the SBS? Although you kept the
same
> > name,
> > > > the SID has changed, so you will need to rejoin.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Marina
> > > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > > >
> > > > "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> > > > news:8BC8CB78-B2F9-497E-979E-4297C0AC479B@microsoft.com...
> > > > > History: -
> > > > >
> > > > > I did an upgrade to my servers, basically I had SBS 2003 with 50
users
> > on
> > > > > it, the server was old so we bought a new server. I built the
server
> > to be
> > > > a
> > > > > 2003 Server in the same domain, server name, same settings the lot
etc
> > and
> > > > > then installed Exchange with all the same settings etc etc
> > > > >
> > > > > I then manually re-created all the users (easiest way as I only
have
> > 50
> > > > > users, didn't want to swing or migrate, wanted to leave current
config
> > in
> > > > > place while I built the other).
> > > > >
> > > > > I then Exmerged all the email, copied all the data and profiles,
> > switched
> > > > > off the old servers plugged in the new, re-added all the PC's to
the
> > new
> > > > > domain.
> > > > >
> > > > > Issue: -
> > > > >
> > > > > When I log in (with admin privileges) my profile comes down
correctly,
> > my
> > > > > email works, printers are available and policies are present. All
> > works
> > > > fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > When a normal user logs in (with Domain User privileges) firstly
the
> > group
> > > > > policies aren't coming into effect. No got any more info than this
at
> > the
> > > > > min, no errors no nothing! I backed up and restored my GPO's from
the
> > last
> > > > > server.
> > > > >
> > > > > Secondly when my users log on and download there profile form the
> > server
> > > > > they don't see all of the profile. I restored there profiles from
> > backup.
> > > > > When I look on the PC when they are logged in in documents and
> > settings
> > > > at
> > > > > the profile they can only see certain folders: -
> > > > >
> > > > > Users Documents
> > > > > Desktop
> > > > > Favorites
> > > > > Start Menu
> > > > > WINDOWS
> > > > >
> > > > > They can't see: -
> > > > >
> > > > > Application Data
> > > > > Local Settings
> > > > > etc
> > > > > etc
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought at first it wasn't downloading those folders but if I
log on
> > as
> > > > an
> > > > > administrator and click on the cached copy of there profile all
the
> > > > folders
> > > > > are there, it's only when they are logged in that they can't see
it.
> > > > >
> > > > > It shouldn't be a permissions thing on the folder as they can
download
> > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's not that they are hidden as I clicked to show hidden files
and
> > > > folders.
> > > > > This is causing outlook to fail as they can't see the application
data
> > > > > folder. Also no printers etc
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone any ideas as to what's happening here? Not sure if there's
an
> > > > overall
> > > > > permissions issue because the way I got round this problem was to
put
> > all
> > > > my
> > > > > users into the Domain Admins group, everything works fine now but
I
> > need
> > > > to
> > > > > get them all out of Domain Admins asap!
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >



Re: Permissions issue with users in Domain Users not able to see p by Ziguana

Ziguana
Mon Nov 08 15:29:02 CST 2004

Hi Marina, the stuff in my first post doesn't work, see below: -

History: -

I did an upgrade to my servers, basically I had SBS 2003 with 50 users on
it, the server was old so we bought a new server. I built the server to be a
2003 Server in the same domain, server name, same settings the lot etc and
then installed Exchange with all the same settings etc etc

I then manually re-created all the users (easiest way as I only have 50
users, didnâ??t want to swing or migrate, wanted to leave current config in
place while I built the other).

I then Exmerged all the email, copied all the data and profiles, switched
off the old servers plugged in the new, re-added all the PCâ??s to the new
domain.

Issue: -

When I log in (with admin privileges) my profile comes down correctly, my
email works, printers are available and policies are present. All works fine.

When a normal user logs in (with Domain User privileges) firstly the group
policies aren't coming into effect. No got any more info than this at the
min, no errors no nothing! I backed up and restored my GPO's from the last
server.

Secondly when my users log on and download there profile form the server
they don't see all of the profile. I restored there profiles from backup.
When I look on the PC when they are logged in in documents and settings at
the profile they can only see certain folders: -

Users Documents
Desktop
Favorites
Start Menu
WINDOWS

They can't see: -

Application Data
Local Settings
etc
etc

I thought at first it wasn't downloading those folders but if I log on as an
administrator and click on the cached copy of there profile all the folders
are there, it's only when they are logged in that they can't see it.

It shouldn't be a permissions thing on the folder as they can download it.

It's not that they are hidden as I clicked to show hidden files and folders.
This is causing outlook to fail as they can't see the application data
folder. Also no printers etc

Anyone any ideas as to whatâ??s happening here? Not sure if thereâ??s an overall
permissions issue because the way I got round this problem was to put all my
users into the Domain Admins group, everything works fine now but I need to
get them all out of Domain Admins asap!

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Mike



"Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> Hi Ziguana,
>
> What doesn't work? You will only need to add them to the local admin group
> when you rejoin the clients. After all the applications have been installed,
> you can remove them from the admin group. It will however depend on the
> program they are using, if they need to be a local admin or not. Office only
> needs it during installation, after that, a user can use the program without
> problems.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Marina
> Microsoft SBS-MVP
>
> "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> news:808D16CF-B12B-44D2-BF5B-C97B691AA269@microsoft.com...
> > Marina I still have this problem. Yes adding the domain users to the local
> > admin group fixes it but I don't want to go this far. I don't want to give
> > the users admin permissions to there own machine.
> >
> > What has changed that they would need this? Are there any other solutions?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ziguana,
> > >
> > > What if you add the domain users to the local administrators group on
> the
> > > computer?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Marina
> > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > >
> > > "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> > > news:B3D7DD94-4C69-4DA3-9F13-8A63340186EA@microsoft.com...
> > > > Yes I re-added all the workstations to the domain, one at a time
> adding a
> > > > domain user account (administrator) everytime.
> > > >
> > > > Any other ideas?
> > > >
> > > > It works when someone with admin or domain admin rights logs in. Not
> when
> > > > users with just domain user rights.
> > > >
> > > > "Hopeing none of the users realise they have extra privaliges at the
> > > min"!!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Ziguana,
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you rejoin the workstations to the SBS? Although you kept the
> same
> > > name,
> > > > > the SID has changed, so you will need to rejoin.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Marina
> > > > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > > > >
> > > > > "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> > > > > news:8BC8CB78-B2F9-497E-979E-4297C0AC479B@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > History: -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did an upgrade to my servers, basically I had SBS 2003 with 50
> users
> > > on
> > > > > > it, the server was old so we bought a new server. I built the
> server
> > > to be
> > > > > a
> > > > > > 2003 Server in the same domain, server name, same settings the lot
> etc
> > > and
> > > > > > then installed Exchange with all the same settings etc etc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I then manually re-created all the users (easiest way as I only
> have
> > > 50
> > > > > > users, didn't want to swing or migrate, wanted to leave current
> config
> > > in
> > > > > > place while I built the other).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I then Exmerged all the email, copied all the data and profiles,
> > > switched
> > > > > > off the old servers plugged in the new, re-added all the PC's to
> the
> > > new
> > > > > > domain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Issue: -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I log in (with admin privileges) my profile comes down
> correctly,
> > > my
> > > > > > email works, printers are available and policies are present. All
> > > works
> > > > > fine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When a normal user logs in (with Domain User privileges) firstly
> the
> > > group
> > > > > > policies aren't coming into effect. No got any more info than this
> at
> > > the
> > > > > > min, no errors no nothing! I backed up and restored my GPO's from
> the
> > > last
> > > > > > server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Secondly when my users log on and download there profile form the
> > > server
> > > > > > they don't see all of the profile. I restored there profiles from
> > > backup.
> > > > > > When I look on the PC when they are logged in in documents and
> > > settings
> > > > > at
> > > > > > the profile they can only see certain folders: -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Users Documents
> > > > > > Desktop
> > > > > > Favorites
> > > > > > Start Menu
> > > > > > WINDOWS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They can't see: -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Application Data
> > > > > > Local Settings
> > > > > > etc
> > > > > > etc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I thought at first it wasn't downloading those folders but if I
> log on
> > > as
> > > > > an
> > > > > > administrator and click on the cached copy of there profile all
> the
> > > > > folders
> > > > > > are there, it's only when they are logged in that they can't see
> it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It shouldn't be a permissions thing on the folder as they can
> download
> > > it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's not that they are hidden as I clicked to show hidden files
> and
> > > > > folders.
> > > > > > This is causing outlook to fail as they can't see the application
> data
> > > > > > folder. Also no printers etc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone any ideas as to what's happening here? Not sure if there's
> an
> > > > > overall
> > > > > > permissions issue because the way I got round this problem was to
> put
> > > all
> > > > > my
> > > > > > users into the Domain Admins group, everything works fine now but
> I
> > > need
> > > > > to
> > > > > > get them all out of Domain Admins asap!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>

Re: Permissions issue with users in Domain Users not able to see p by Marina

Marina
Mon Nov 08 17:36:09 CST 2004

Hi Mike,

I think that you cannot just copy profiles from one server to another server
and expect them to work like that.
What you can try, is remove a computer account from the SBS. Put the
computer into a workgroup. Recreate the computeraccount on the SBS. Boot the
client and make sure the ipconfig/all is pointing to the server. Use
servername/connectcomputer to join the computer.
Then login as a user (make sure the user is a local admin on the computer)
and let it create a profile and install the applications if needed. Log out
as that user and login as admin. At this point you can copy the old user
profile over the new profile (assuming the old profile does work).
Login as that user again, after you have setup the roaming profile on the
server. At this point the local profile should be copied to the server when
login out.
Check it out. Than remove the user from the local admin group and try again.

--
Regards,

Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP

"Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:4E3BDCC3-3F2F-4EA9-853F-88396543F454@microsoft.com...
> Hi Marina, the stuff in my first post doesn't work, see below: -
>
> History: -
>
> I did an upgrade to my servers, basically I had SBS 2003 with 50 users on
> it, the server was old so we bought a new server. I built the server to be
a
> 2003 Server in the same domain, server name, same settings the lot etc and
> then installed Exchange with all the same settings etc etc
>
> I then manually re-created all the users (easiest way as I only have 50
> users, didn't want to swing or migrate, wanted to leave current config in
> place while I built the other).
>
> I then Exmerged all the email, copied all the data and profiles, switched
> off the old servers plugged in the new, re-added all the PC's to the new
> domain.
>
> Issue: -
>
> When I log in (with admin privileges) my profile comes down correctly, my
> email works, printers are available and policies are present. All works
fine.
>
> When a normal user logs in (with Domain User privileges) firstly the group
> policies aren't coming into effect. No got any more info than this at the
> min, no errors no nothing! I backed up and restored my GPO's from the last
> server.
>
> Secondly when my users log on and download there profile form the server
> they don't see all of the profile. I restored there profiles from backup.
> When I look on the PC when they are logged in in documents and settings
at
> the profile they can only see certain folders: -
>
> Users Documents
> Desktop
> Favorites
> Start Menu
> WINDOWS
>
> They can't see: -
>
> Application Data
> Local Settings
> etc
> etc
>
> I thought at first it wasn't downloading those folders but if I log on as
an
> administrator and click on the cached copy of there profile all the
folders
> are there, it's only when they are logged in that they can't see it.
>
> It shouldn't be a permissions thing on the folder as they can download it.
>
> It's not that they are hidden as I clicked to show hidden files and
folders.
> This is causing outlook to fail as they can't see the application data
> folder. Also no printers etc
>
> Anyone any ideas as to what's happening here? Not sure if there's an
overall
> permissions issue because the way I got round this problem was to put all
my
> users into the Domain Admins group, everything works fine now but I need
to
> get them all out of Domain Admins asap!
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Hi Ziguana,
> >
> > What doesn't work? You will only need to add them to the local admin
group
> > when you rejoin the clients. After all the applications have been
installed,
> > you can remove them from the admin group. It will however depend on the
> > program they are using, if they need to be a local admin or not. Office
only
> > needs it during installation, after that, a user can use the program
without
> > problems.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Marina
> > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> >
> > "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> > news:808D16CF-B12B-44D2-BF5B-C97B691AA269@microsoft.com...
> > > Marina I still have this problem. Yes adding the domain users to the
local
> > > admin group fixes it but I don't want to go this far. I don't want to
give
> > > the users admin permissions to there own machine.
> > >
> > > What has changed that they would need this? Are there any other
solutions?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Ziguana,
> > > >
> > > > What if you add the domain users to the local administrators group
on
> > the
> > > > computer?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Marina
> > > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > > >
> > > > "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> > > > news:B3D7DD94-4C69-4DA3-9F13-8A63340186EA@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Yes I re-added all the workstations to the domain, one at a time
> > adding a
> > > > > domain user account (administrator) everytime.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any other ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > > It works when someone with admin or domain admin rights logs in.
Not
> > when
> > > > > users with just domain user rights.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Hopeing none of the users realise they have extra privaliges at
the
> > > > min"!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Ziguana,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did you rejoin the workstations to the SBS? Although you kept
the
> > same
> > > > name,
> > > > > > the SID has changed, so you will need to rejoin.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Marina
> > > > > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> > > > > > news:8BC8CB78-B2F9-497E-979E-4297C0AC479B@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > History: -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I did an upgrade to my servers, basically I had SBS 2003 with
50
> > users
> > > > on
> > > > > > > it, the server was old so we bought a new server. I built the
> > server
> > > > to be
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > 2003 Server in the same domain, server name, same settings the
lot
> > etc
> > > > and
> > > > > > > then installed Exchange with all the same settings etc etc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I then manually re-created all the users (easiest way as I
only
> > have
> > > > 50
> > > > > > > users, didn't want to swing or migrate, wanted to leave
current
> > config
> > > > in
> > > > > > > place while I built the other).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I then Exmerged all the email, copied all the data and
profiles,
> > > > switched
> > > > > > > off the old servers plugged in the new, re-added all the PC's
to
> > the
> > > > new
> > > > > > > domain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Issue: -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When I log in (with admin privileges) my profile comes down
> > correctly,
> > > > my
> > > > > > > email works, printers are available and policies are present.
All
> > > > works
> > > > > > fine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When a normal user logs in (with Domain User privileges)
firstly
> > the
> > > > group
> > > > > > > policies aren't coming into effect. No got any more info than
this
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > > > min, no errors no nothing! I backed up and restored my GPO's
from
> > the
> > > > last
> > > > > > > server.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Secondly when my users log on and download there profile form
the
> > > > server
> > > > > > > they don't see all of the profile. I restored there profiles
from
> > > > backup.
> > > > > > > When I look on the PC when they are logged in in documents
and
> > > > settings
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > the profile they can only see certain folders: -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Users Documents
> > > > > > > Desktop
> > > > > > > Favorites
> > > > > > > Start Menu
> > > > > > > WINDOWS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They can't see: -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Application Data
> > > > > > > Local Settings
> > > > > > > etc
> > > > > > > etc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I thought at first it wasn't downloading those folders but if
I
> > log on
> > > > as
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > administrator and click on the cached copy of there profile
all
> > the
> > > > > > folders
> > > > > > > are there, it's only when they are logged in that they can't
see
> > it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It shouldn't be a permissions thing on the folder as they can
> > download
> > > > it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's not that they are hidden as I clicked to show hidden
files
> > and
> > > > > > folders.
> > > > > > > This is causing outlook to fail as they can't see the
application
> > data
> > > > > > > folder. Also no printers etc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone any ideas as to what's happening here? Not sure if
there's
> > an
> > > > > > overall
> > > > > > > permissions issue because the way I got round this problem was
to
> > put
> > > > all
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > users into the Domain Admins group, everything works fine now
but
> > I
> > > > need
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > get them all out of Domain Admins asap!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >



Re: Permissions issue with users in Domain Users not able to see p by Ziguana

Ziguana
Mon Nov 08 18:09:01 CST 2004

Tnanks Marina, the plot thinkens and what you say definatly makes sence.

Thing is I just created a test new user and they work fine. Is there anyway
of listing the user rights like logon locally etc those rights so I can
compare an old user against my new user and see what is different.

If nothing then I have a long haul ahead to make the changes you talk about
below to all users :-(

Thanks

"Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> I think that you cannot just copy profiles from one server to another server
> and expect them to work like that.
> What you can try, is remove a computer account from the SBS. Put the
> computer into a workgroup. Recreate the computeraccount on the SBS. Boot the
> client and make sure the ipconfig/all is pointing to the server. Use
> servername/connectcomputer to join the computer.
> Then login as a user (make sure the user is a local admin on the computer)
> and let it create a profile and install the applications if needed. Log out
> as that user and login as admin. At this point you can copy the old user
> profile over the new profile (assuming the old profile does work).
> Login as that user again, after you have setup the roaming profile on the
> server. At this point the local profile should be copied to the server when
> login out.
> Check it out. Than remove the user from the local admin group and try again.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Marina
> Microsoft SBS-MVP
>
> "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> news:4E3BDCC3-3F2F-4EA9-853F-88396543F454@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Marina, the stuff in my first post doesn't work, see below: -
> >
> > History: -
> >
> > I did an upgrade to my servers, basically I had SBS 2003 with 50 users on
> > it, the server was old so we bought a new server. I built the server to be
> a
> > 2003 Server in the same domain, server name, same settings the lot etc and
> > then installed Exchange with all the same settings etc etc
> >
> > I then manually re-created all the users (easiest way as I only have 50
> > users, didn't want to swing or migrate, wanted to leave current config in
> > place while I built the other).
> >
> > I then Exmerged all the email, copied all the data and profiles, switched
> > off the old servers plugged in the new, re-added all the PC's to the new
> > domain.
> >
> > Issue: -
> >
> > When I log in (with admin privileges) my profile comes down correctly, my
> > email works, printers are available and policies are present. All works
> fine.
> >
> > When a normal user logs in (with Domain User privileges) firstly the group
> > policies aren't coming into effect. No got any more info than this at the
> > min, no errors no nothing! I backed up and restored my GPO's from the last
> > server.
> >
> > Secondly when my users log on and download there profile form the server
> > they don't see all of the profile. I restored there profiles from backup.
> > When I look on the PC when they are logged in in documents and settings
> at
> > the profile they can only see certain folders: -
> >
> > Users Documents
> > Desktop
> > Favorites
> > Start Menu
> > WINDOWS
> >
> > They can't see: -
> >
> > Application Data
> > Local Settings
> > etc
> > etc
> >
> > I thought at first it wasn't downloading those folders but if I log on as
> an
> > administrator and click on the cached copy of there profile all the
> folders
> > are there, it's only when they are logged in that they can't see it.
> >
> > It shouldn't be a permissions thing on the folder as they can download it.
> >
> > It's not that they are hidden as I clicked to show hidden files and
> folders.
> > This is causing outlook to fail as they can't see the application data
> > folder. Also no printers etc
> >
> > Anyone any ideas as to what's happening here? Not sure if there's an
> overall
> > permissions issue because the way I got round this problem was to put all
> my
> > users into the Domain Admins group, everything works fine now but I need
> to
> > get them all out of Domain Admins asap!
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ziguana,
> > >
> > > What doesn't work? You will only need to add them to the local admin
> group
> > > when you rejoin the clients. After all the applications have been
> installed,
> > > you can remove them from the admin group. It will however depend on the
> > > program they are using, if they need to be a local admin or not. Office
> only
> > > needs it during installation, after that, a user can use the program
> without
> > > problems.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Marina
> > > Microsoft SBS-MVP
> > >
> > > "Ziguana" <Ziguana@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> > > news:808D16CF-B12B-44D2-BF5B-C97B691AA269@microsoft.com...
> > > > Marina I still have this problem. Yes adding the domain users to the
> local
> > > > admin group fixes it but I don't want to go this far. I don't want to
> give
> > > > the users admin permissions to there own machine.
> > > >
> > > > What has changed that they would need this? Are there any other
> solutions?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
>