My apologies for the blantent promotion ... but this is one event that I
know that if there is one training event to go to, pick this one.

[and in full disclosure, as a speaker, Harry Brelsford is covering the
hotel but I don't get any "speaker" fees and I'm taking personal
vacation days for the days I'll be in Seattle]

This conference is like my experiences with the MVP summit....more than
the other geek conferences and events, there is a level of communication
that occurs with SMBNation and MVP summits that are beyond any other.

First off, we're totally all SBSers and we don't have to explain why we
are as wacko as we are, we KNOW hands down the product works. And this
year, even more so than last years conference, man are the attendees in
for a treat. You do realize that per the schedule
http://www.smbnation.com/schedule.htm you will be face to face with SBS
dev team members/ marketing team members based in Redmond.

Just like the MVP summits I've gone to, SMBnation, you arrive, you begin
to talk SBS "geek" talk, and you don't stop talking SBS talk until the
time you leave.

Impromptu chats over dinner, "birds of a feather" type meetings,
swapping tech stories, business ideas. Those of you guys and gals that
attend your local user group meetings.... think of that and multiply
that by 10. Those of you guys and gals that only meeting up via online,
this is the opportunity to put faces with email addresses.

Again my apologies for the promotion, I hope you will indulge me in this
posting as in my personal opinion, will send you back to your businesses
more recharged and pumped up than ever before.


---------------------

P.S. I know us SBSers are cheap and in fact Anne Stanton and I are
sharing a room because.. well it's flat out more fun for girl talk and
just because. [Okay so in honesty it's because we really have fun
catching up on the girl talk... it's fun to have a fellow girl geek
around] So if anyone is on the borderline about going, consider sharing
a room. [snorers try to bunk up with snorers you know ;-)

--
http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm

Re: << SMB Nation - THE get together for SBSers>> by Les

Les
Sun Aug 15 14:46:20 CDT 2004

ok, I'll come then.

--
Les Connor [SBS MVP]
-------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !



"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
wrote in message news:OKQBkKigEHA.396@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> My apologies for the blantent promotion ... but this is one event that I
> know that if there is one training event to go to, pick this one.
>
> [and in full disclosure, as a speaker, Harry Brelsford is covering the
> hotel but I don't get any "speaker" fees and I'm taking personal vacation
> days for the days I'll be in Seattle]
>
> This conference is like my experiences with the MVP summit....more than
> the other geek conferences and events, there is a level of communication
> that occurs with SMBNation and MVP summits that are beyond any other.
>
> First off, we're totally all SBSers and we don't have to explain why we
> are as wacko as we are, we KNOW hands down the product works. And this
> year, even more so than last years conference, man are the attendees in
> for a treat. You do realize that per the schedule
> http://www.smbnation.com/schedule.htm you will be face to face with SBS
> dev team members/ marketing team members based in Redmond.
>
> Just like the MVP summits I've gone to, SMBnation, you arrive, you begin
> to talk SBS "geek" talk, and you don't stop talking SBS talk until the
> time you leave.
>
> Impromptu chats over dinner, "birds of a feather" type meetings, swapping
> tech stories, business ideas. Those of you guys and gals that attend your
> local user group meetings.... think of that and multiply that by 10.
> Those of you guys and gals that only meeting up via online, this is the
> opportunity to put faces with email addresses.
>
> Again my apologies for the promotion, I hope you will indulge me in this
> posting as in my personal opinion, will send you back to your businesses
> more recharged and pumped up than ever before.
>
>
> ---------------------
>
> P.S. I know us SBSers are cheap and in fact Anne Stanton and I are
> sharing a room because.. well it's flat out more fun for girl talk and
> just because. [Okay so in honesty it's because we really have fun
> catching up on the girl talk... it's fun to have a fellow girl geek
> around] So if anyone is on the borderline about going, consider sharing a
> room. [snorers try to bunk up with snorers you know ;-)
>
> --
> http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm



Re: << SMB Nation - THE get together for SBSers>> by Jeff

Jeff
Mon Aug 16 08:07:12 CDT 2004

I'll be there too!

Adding to Susan's comments...Many of the community members you see here and
in the Yahoogroups will be there, as will many of the SBS MVPs, many of the
familiar MS names. This is one of those conferences where you will know the
people and names on the badges, you just never met face to face.

I want to point out that while SMB Nation clearly isn't without an
attendance entry fee, it's otherwise the closest thing to these NGs you are
going to find on a national level with a live and face to face version
experience.

Conference Event Dates: Sept 10-13, 2004
Location: Seattle, WA (Susan said that)
SBS MVPs expected to hang out there: 9 expected to attend

In addition to SBS MVPs Susan Bradley and Wayne Small who are already listed
on the presenters list (Susan posted the agenda link on this thread), it
looks like a session on SBS Migration will be added. That will provide me a
forum to explain the alternative method I've mentioned already in this NG,
and have now documented for SBS migrations.

[My migration documentation will be a full chapter in an upcoming SBS book
Harry will publish. An SMB Nation pass was part of my writers compensation,
that's the extent of my connection. Since the documentation will be ready to
discuss, I'll be there, and SMB Nation is providing the venue, I've not
asked to be compensated or reimbursed for speaking. I figure it will be
convenient for me, it may save me repeating a conversation in the hall 100
times!]

Due to the popular demand and timing of my completing the related
documentation, the migration session is being added to the schedule, but the
online schedule doesn't show an outline or time for this session yet. It
will probably on the end of Sunday's schedule. Here's a quick summary of
the session topic:

The SBS 2003 Migration session to be presented by Jeff Middleton, will
identify a migration alternative to ADMT, In-Place or "abandon the domain"
new-installs. The session will feature a flexible method for building a
clean SBS server install into the existing Windows/SBS 2000 and later
domain, and bringing the new SBS server in almost transparently. This nifty
process has a number of advantages to IT Pros and the organization running
SBS, including:

- Retain identical servername
- Retain identical domainname
- Retain identical server IPs
- Retain the same AD, users/groups/computers upgraded to SBS 2003
- Retain Group Policies, all namespace, all domain security contexts
- Retain DHCP, WINS and DNS configuration and customizations
- No loss of SIDs, no change to workstation profiles
- Optional method is outlined to retain the Exchange Stores intact via
direct offline restore to the new server, or use Exmerge to purge mailboxes
if you prefer
- Suitable steps allow for server replacement or redeployment with same
hardware

Some of the extend benefits realized in this migration method are:

- Virtually no prep and reconfiguration required to perform on existing SBS
server.
- Essentially no prep or intrusive recovery work required to perform at the
workstations before or after the migration. Only the normal client
application updates are needed
- No loss of SBS standard setup process: you use SBS media, get a clean
server setup, installation is still using the standard SBS server install
and completion experience
- Exchange migration occurs as last step, therefore email remains
continuously operational until store transfer, downtime is limited to store
transfer time and method
- Method defines working offline from production LAN, protecting the
production server, and allows for even offsite construction. Therefore, you
are provided a safe rollback during the process, or even full-regret
abandonment of the migration attempt without even requiring repairs to
production domain. (IT Pros can work in their shop M-F, 8-5, not be on-site
in off hours and weekends, and solve all transition problems and
supplemental upgrade issues conveniently before the transition process.)
- Production domain on existing SBS remains running for the entire time of
construction, sparing the owner the 'upgrade panic', "when will it be back
up and is it going to work?".
- open ended construction time, can span days, weeks (arguably months) for
your convenience in working when you have free time, or spanning multiple
weekends if that's your preference.
- Limited downtime: With a new server replacement, the downtime is limited
to the time required for data transfer, then you snap the new server into
place of the old server.
- With a redeployment of the same server, you have to option to do your
preparations conveniently over a period of time, as opposed to a weeked
crash project, provided you can use an extra drive during construction.
- the process outlined for migration is also suitable for disaster recovery.

I'm looking forward to seeing some familiar names and faces at SMB Nation.
If you have been on the fence about attending, it's not too late to get
yourself in. It should be a fun time and a very worthwhile professional
development experience!



Re: << SMB Nation - THE get together for SBSers>> by SuperGumby

SuperGumby
Mon Aug 16 08:20:13 CDT 2004

Jeff,

that's all well and good, but you DO REALISE you'll be spending a bucketload
of time standing in corridors explaining the self same thing you have just
discussed, and put in a book, and standing there wondering just what's
happened to the story meantime.

I had hoped I may meet you at TechEd, I'm unlikely to rectify this at SMB
Nation.


"Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <jeff@cfisolutions.com> wrote in message
news:e$lVzH5gEHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I'll be there too!
>
> Adding to Susan's comments...Many of the community members you see here
> and
> in the Yahoogroups will be there, as will many of the SBS MVPs, many of
> the
> familiar MS names. This is one of those conferences where you will know
> the
> people and names on the badges, you just never met face to face.
>
> I want to point out that while SMB Nation clearly isn't without an
> attendance entry fee, it's otherwise the closest thing to these NGs you
> are
> going to find on a national level with a live and face to face version
> experience.
>
> Conference Event Dates: Sept 10-13, 2004
> Location: Seattle, WA (Susan said that)
> SBS MVPs expected to hang out there: 9 expected to attend
>
> In addition to SBS MVPs Susan Bradley and Wayne Small who are already
> listed
> on the presenters list (Susan posted the agenda link on this thread), it
> looks like a session on SBS Migration will be added. That will provide me
> a
> forum to explain the alternative method I've mentioned already in this NG,
> and have now documented for SBS migrations.
>
> [My migration documentation will be a full chapter in an upcoming SBS book
> Harry will publish. An SMB Nation pass was part of my writers
> compensation,
> that's the extent of my connection. Since the documentation will be ready
> to
> discuss, I'll be there, and SMB Nation is providing the venue, I've not
> asked to be compensated or reimbursed for speaking. I figure it will be
> convenient for me, it may save me repeating a conversation in the hall 100
> times!]
>
> Due to the popular demand and timing of my completing the related
> documentation, the migration session is being added to the schedule, but
> the
> online schedule doesn't show an outline or time for this session yet. It
> will probably on the end of Sunday's schedule. Here's a quick summary of
> the session topic:
>
> The SBS 2003 Migration session to be presented by Jeff Middleton, will
> identify a migration alternative to ADMT, In-Place or "abandon the domain"
> new-installs. The session will feature a flexible method for building a
> clean SBS server install into the existing Windows/SBS 2000 and later
> domain, and bringing the new SBS server in almost transparently. This
> nifty
> process has a number of advantages to IT Pros and the organization running
> SBS, including:
>
> - Retain identical servername
> - Retain identical domainname
> - Retain identical server IPs
> - Retain the same AD, users/groups/computers upgraded to SBS 2003
> - Retain Group Policies, all namespace, all domain security contexts
> - Retain DHCP, WINS and DNS configuration and customizations
> - No loss of SIDs, no change to workstation profiles
> - Optional method is outlined to retain the Exchange Stores intact via
> direct offline restore to the new server, or use Exmerge to purge
> mailboxes
> if you prefer
> - Suitable steps allow for server replacement or redeployment with same
> hardware
>
> Some of the extend benefits realized in this migration method are:
>
> - Virtually no prep and reconfiguration required to perform on existing
> SBS
> server.
> - Essentially no prep or intrusive recovery work required to perform at
> the
> workstations before or after the migration. Only the normal client
> application updates are needed
> - No loss of SBS standard setup process: you use SBS media, get a clean
> server setup, installation is still using the standard SBS server install
> and completion experience
> - Exchange migration occurs as last step, therefore email remains
> continuously operational until store transfer, downtime is limited to
> store
> transfer time and method
> - Method defines working offline from production LAN, protecting the
> production server, and allows for even offsite construction. Therefore,
> you
> are provided a safe rollback during the process, or even full-regret
> abandonment of the migration attempt without even requiring repairs to
> production domain. (IT Pros can work in their shop M-F, 8-5, not be
> on-site
> in off hours and weekends, and solve all transition problems and
> supplemental upgrade issues conveniently before the transition process.)
> - Production domain on existing SBS remains running for the entire time of
> construction, sparing the owner the 'upgrade panic', "when will it be back
> up and is it going to work?".
> - open ended construction time, can span days, weeks (arguably months) for
> your convenience in working when you have free time, or spanning multiple
> weekends if that's your preference.
> - Limited downtime: With a new server replacement, the downtime is limited
> to the time required for data transfer, then you snap the new server into
> place of the old server.
> - With a redeployment of the same server, you have to option to do your
> preparations conveniently over a period of time, as opposed to a weeked
> crash project, provided you can use an extra drive during construction.
> - the process outlined for migration is also suitable for disaster
> recovery.
>
> I'm looking forward to seeing some familiar names and faces at SMB Nation.
> If you have been on the fence about attending, it's not too late to get
> yourself in. It should be a fun time and a very worthwhile professional
> development experience!
>
>