First off, Thanks for reading this post.

Iâ??m a bit new to what Iâ??m trying to do in this post, so if this sounds a bit
simple to some, please pass anything you can along to me.

I am trying to get SBS2003 to play well with a DSL Modem/Router.

The Server has an inside and outside NIC card.

We attempted to get a connection to the Internet two ways.

#1, Connect the DSL Modem to the outside NIC, turn off the router functions,
and let SBS2003 handle all of the connection information. User Name,
Password and so on. The Modem dials out, but the IP address coming back from
the modem is not the static number that we have. Tried several modems from
the DSL provider, but the problem is between SBS2003 and the DSL Modem.
Unfortunately the DSL provided will not allow â??Otherâ?? brands of modems so we
are stuck. This modem will simply not pass on the Static IP address that is
ours, and provides a phantom address, which renders this useless in this
configuration. So seeing that this will not work, no matter what we try, we
moved to connection #2.

#2, Connect the DSL Modem to the network switch, turn ON the router
functions, and let the Modem/Router handle all connection information,
Username, Password and so on. Making sure the Server now knows the Internet
Gateway is the router that is on the switch. This works fine, but we can not
provide for most of the needed functions of SBS2003 from the outside world.
The most we get is Internet to all of the machines. Remote Access, Remote
Mail, Remote Desktop among other things simply will not work with this
configuration. We know this. And connecting this configuration to the
outside NIC also does not work since the Server and the Router functions
fight with each other and the Static IP again is not passed to the server.
But the odd thing, the STATIC IP address is showing in this configuration but
will not pass off to the server no matter what we try with Configuration #1
or #2.

This sent us in many directions, and our final thought was to try what we
are trying now.

I will give a bunch of fake IP numbers just to show what directions we are
moving in right now.

We have connected the DSL Modem to a Linksys Router BEFSR41.

In the router, DHCP is turned off, and it is given an IP of 192.168.30.1 We
have also programmed in the static IP address given by the Modem.

The Linksys router is then connected to the server through its outside NIC
with an IP address of 192.168.30.2 All pertinent Gateway, Subnet and DNS
information is programmed into the Linksys Router as well.

The outside NIC on the server is then given the IP of 192.168.30.2, Subnet
of 255.255.255.0, Gateway of 192.168.30.1 (the Linksys Router) and the DNS of
the router 192.168.30.1

And finally, the DMZ of the Linksys Router is turned on for the IP address
of the Outside NIC of the server. (192.168.30.2)

In theory, what we think should have happened was to basically get by the
DSL Modem Problem by making the DSL Modem and the LinkSys Router one big
Cable Modem that just hands over to the server a Static IP address
(192.168.30.1) from the router, and make it think itâ??s the outside one and
let the router deal with the DSL Modem problem on not handing off our Real
static IP address.

This works, for about 90% of what we need. We are able to connect to our
serverâ??s remote sites, (http://remote.whatever.com/remote) and we are able
to check mail, and most of the other functions of the remote area, but we are
unable to connect to a remote desktop at all.

When we choose this selection, it sends us the certificate to allow us to
get into the remote area. Then it displays the lists of machines on the
network. When we click on one of the machine to remotely work on that
machine, it does nothing until it ultimately times out.

I know this is a long shot, but has anyone else ever had problems with DSL
like we have and connecting DSL with SBS2003, or have ever tried what we are
trying. It seems for the most part we are on the right path since we have
more and more things that we are able to do, but there is something missing
that we canâ??t quite figure out that might be on the Server end or the
Modem/Linksys end, and we are now stumped.

We canâ??t figure out why SBS2003 will not work with DSL Cable Modems, and we
have also found that there are many people who have the same problems when
trying to let SBS2003 do the dialing, login and password functions of the DSL
Modem. So we have tried other routes as I have said, with great results but
can not get there 100%.

Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on our problem. I know this is not
something that everyone would or should try, but we are trying to keep things
as secure as possibly and still have our remote access with this stubborn DSL
Modem and Company.

Thanks for all the help!

Re: SBS2003 and DSL Modems. by Steve

Steve
Fri Jan 13 15:10:31 CST 2006

So you're saying this is a static assigned IP address from the ISP but you
have to authenticate using something like PPPOE to connect? The ISPs I use
don't require that type of authentication with a static IP DSL service so
not quite sure what to suggest. Usually with a PPPOE connection its best to
let the router do the authentication rather than some software on the SBS
box doing it.

"TomH" <TomH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6717FA59-51B6-42F7-A928-781910DBA9CA@microsoft.com...
> First off, Thanks for reading this post.
>
> I'm a bit new to what I'm trying to do in this post, so if this sounds a
> bit
> simple to some, please pass anything you can along to me.
>
> I am trying to get SBS2003 to play well with a DSL Modem/Router.
>
> The Server has an inside and outside NIC card.
>
> We attempted to get a connection to the Internet two ways.
>
> #1, Connect the DSL Modem to the outside NIC, turn off the router
> functions,
> and let SBS2003 handle all of the connection information. User Name,
> Password and so on. The Modem dials out, but the IP address coming back
> from
> the modem is not the static number that we have. Tried several modems
> from
> the DSL provider, but the problem is between SBS2003 and the DSL Modem.
> Unfortunately the DSL provided will not allow "Other" brands of modems so
> we
> are stuck. This modem will simply not pass on the Static IP address that
> is
> ours, and provides a phantom address, which renders this useless in this
> configuration. So seeing that this will not work, no matter what we try,
> we
> moved to connection #2.
>
> #2, Connect the DSL Modem to the network switch, turn ON the router
> functions, and let the Modem/Router handle all connection information,
> Username, Password and so on. Making sure the Server now knows the
> Internet
> Gateway is the router that is on the switch. This works fine, but we can
> not
> provide for most of the needed functions of SBS2003 from the outside
> world.
> The most we get is Internet to all of the machines. Remote Access, Remote
> Mail, Remote Desktop among other things simply will not work with this
> configuration. We know this. And connecting this configuration to the
> outside NIC also does not work since the Server and the Router functions
> fight with each other and the Static IP again is not passed to the server.
> But the odd thing, the STATIC IP address is showing in this configuration
> but
> will not pass off to the server no matter what we try with Configuration
> #1
> or #2.
>
> This sent us in many directions, and our final thought was to try what we
> are trying now.
>
> I will give a bunch of fake IP numbers just to show what directions we are
> moving in right now.
>
> We have connected the DSL Modem to a Linksys Router BEFSR41.
>
> In the router, DHCP is turned off, and it is given an IP of 192.168.30.1
> We
> have also programmed in the static IP address given by the Modem.
>
> The Linksys router is then connected to the server through its outside NIC
> with an IP address of 192.168.30.2 All pertinent Gateway, Subnet and DNS
> information is programmed into the Linksys Router as well.
>
> The outside NIC on the server is then given the IP of 192.168.30.2,
> Subnet
> of 255.255.255.0, Gateway of 192.168.30.1 (the Linksys Router) and the DNS
> of
> the router 192.168.30.1
>
> And finally, the DMZ of the Linksys Router is turned on for the IP address
> of the Outside NIC of the server. (192.168.30.2)
>
> In theory, what we think should have happened was to basically get by the
> DSL Modem Problem by making the DSL Modem and the LinkSys Router one big
> Cable Modem that just hands over to the server a Static IP address
> (192.168.30.1) from the router, and make it think it's the outside one
> and
> let the router deal with the DSL Modem problem on not handing off our Real
> static IP address.
>
> This works, for about 90% of what we need. We are able to connect to our
> server's remote sites, (http://remote.whatever.com/remote) and we are
> able
> to check mail, and most of the other functions of the remote area, but we
> are
> unable to connect to a remote desktop at all.
>
> When we choose this selection, it sends us the certificate to allow us to
> get into the remote area. Then it displays the lists of machines on the
> network. When we click on one of the machine to remotely work on that
> machine, it does nothing until it ultimately times out.
>
> I know this is a long shot, but has anyone else ever had problems with DSL
> like we have and connecting DSL with SBS2003, or have ever tried what we
> are
> trying. It seems for the most part we are on the right path since we have
> more and more things that we are able to do, but there is something
> missing
> that we can't quite figure out that might be on the Server end or the
> Modem/Linksys end, and we are now stumped.
>
> We can't figure out why SBS2003 will not work with DSL Cable Modems, and
> we
> have also found that there are many people who have the same problems when
> trying to let SBS2003 do the dialing, login and password functions of the
> DSL
> Modem. So we have tried other routes as I have said, with great results
> but
> can not get there 100%.
>
> Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on our problem. I know this is
> not
> something that everyone would or should try, but we are trying to keep
> things
> as secure as possibly and still have our remote access with this stubborn
> DSL
> Modem and Company.
>
> Thanks for all the help!
>



Re: SBS2003 and DSL Modems. by Merv

Merv
Fri Jan 13 18:25:45 CST 2006

What is the make/model of the DSL modem-router your ISP gave you?

--
Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
===================================
"TomH" <TomH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6717FA59-51B6-42F7-A928-781910DBA9CA@microsoft.com...
> First off, Thanks for reading this post.
>
> I'm a bit new to what I'm trying to do in this post, so if this sounds a
> bit
> simple to some, please pass anything you can along to me.
>
> I am trying to get SBS2003 to play well with a DSL Modem/Router.
>
> The Server has an inside and outside NIC card.
>
> We attempted to get a connection to the Internet two ways.
>
> #1, Connect the DSL Modem to the outside NIC, turn off the router
> functions,
> and let SBS2003 handle all of the connection information. User Name,
> Password and so on. The Modem dials out, but the IP address coming back
> from
> the modem is not the static number that we have. Tried several modems
> from
> the DSL provider, but the problem is between SBS2003 and the DSL Modem.
> Unfortunately the DSL provided will not allow "Other" brands of modems so
> we
> are stuck. This modem will simply not pass on the Static IP address that
> is
> ours, and provides a phantom address, which renders this useless in this
> configuration. So seeing that this will not work, no matter what we try,
> we
> moved to connection #2.
>
> #2, Connect the DSL Modem to the network switch, turn ON the router
> functions, and let the Modem/Router handle all connection information,
> Username, Password and so on. Making sure the Server now knows the
> Internet
> Gateway is the router that is on the switch. This works fine, but we can
> not
> provide for most of the needed functions of SBS2003 from the outside
> world.
> The most we get is Internet to all of the machines. Remote Access, Remote
> Mail, Remote Desktop among other things simply will not work with this
> configuration. We know this. And connecting this configuration to the
> outside NIC also does not work since the Server and the Router functions
> fight with each other and the Static IP again is not passed to the server.
> But the odd thing, the STATIC IP address is showing in this configuration
> but
> will not pass off to the server no matter what we try with Configuration
> #1
> or #2.
>
> This sent us in many directions, and our final thought was to try what we
> are trying now.
>
> I will give a bunch of fake IP numbers just to show what directions we are
> moving in right now.
>
> We have connected the DSL Modem to a Linksys Router BEFSR41.
>
> In the router, DHCP is turned off, and it is given an IP of 192.168.30.1
> We
> have also programmed in the static IP address given by the Modem.
>
> The Linksys router is then connected to the server through its outside NIC
> with an IP address of 192.168.30.2 All pertinent Gateway, Subnet and DNS
> information is programmed into the Linksys Router as well.
>
> The outside NIC on the server is then given the IP of 192.168.30.2,
> Subnet
> of 255.255.255.0, Gateway of 192.168.30.1 (the Linksys Router) and the DNS
> of
> the router 192.168.30.1
>
> And finally, the DMZ of the Linksys Router is turned on for the IP address
> of the Outside NIC of the server. (192.168.30.2)
>
> In theory, what we think should have happened was to basically get by the
> DSL Modem Problem by making the DSL Modem and the LinkSys Router one big
> Cable Modem that just hands over to the server a Static IP address
> (192.168.30.1) from the router, and make it think it's the outside one
> and
> let the router deal with the DSL Modem problem on not handing off our Real
> static IP address.
>
> This works, for about 90% of what we need. We are able to connect to our
> server's remote sites, (http://remote.whatever.com/remote) and we are
> able
> to check mail, and most of the other functions of the remote area, but we
> are
> unable to connect to a remote desktop at all.
>
> When we choose this selection, it sends us the certificate to allow us to
> get into the remote area. Then it displays the lists of machines on the
> network. When we click on one of the machine to remotely work on that
> machine, it does nothing until it ultimately times out.
>
> I know this is a long shot, but has anyone else ever had problems with DSL
> like we have and connecting DSL with SBS2003, or have ever tried what we
> are
> trying. It seems for the most part we are on the right path since we have
> more and more things that we are able to do, but there is something
> missing
> that we can't quite figure out that might be on the Server end or the
> Modem/Linksys end, and we are now stumped.
>
> We can't figure out why SBS2003 will not work with DSL Cable Modems, and
> we
> have also found that there are many people who have the same problems when
> trying to let SBS2003 do the dialing, login and password functions of the
> DSL
> Modem. So we have tried other routes as I have said, with great results
> but
> can not get there 100%.
>
> Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on our problem. I know this is
> not
> something that everyone would or should try, but we are trying to keep
> things
> as secure as possibly and still have our remote access with this stubborn
> DSL
> Modem and Company.
>
> Thanks for all the help!
>