What is the general consensus regarding performing regular maintenance, and
updates to SBS Servers via terminal services?

As I add more clients, it's getting harder to visit each regularly for
maintenance, and more tempting to rely on TS.

Any thoughts or experiences?

Gavin

Re: Mainteneace and updates remotely by Roger

Roger
Sat Jul 19 20:23:22 CDT 2003

Well I for one I use TS a lot to watch over the servers I take care of and
networks. If there is a patch that needs to be gotten on the box right away
I test it on my server at home and if that doesn't cause any problems I the
hit the sites I need to and get this done. I haven't had a issue with it yet
of a server not coming back up or what and I do them one at a time in the
eveing so If it goes down I can be there first thing the next morning to fix
the server. But all my customers trust me to keep them patched and just
today for example I Patched 20 servers from home here scattered from 20
miles away from me to 120 miles away. I wouldn't be able to hit them all in
the same day to do the same thing. Plus at the same time I can check drive
space and event logs and see how the box is doing. If I see something that
warrants a on-site visit I mark it down and call the customer the next day
and then usually make a stop. And the plus to it is it's billible time. So
it has helped me a lot and I do this regularly.

Roger Crawford
HTS


"Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
news:%23p4PpclTDHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> What is the general consensus regarding performing regular maintenance,
and
> updates to SBS Servers via terminal services?
>
> As I add more clients, it's getting harder to visit each regularly for
> maintenance, and more tempting to rely on TS.
>
> Any thoughts or experiences?
>
> Gavin
>
>



Re: Mainteneace and updates remotely by Mark

Mark
Sat Jul 19 21:25:11 CDT 2003

The only problem I had in 5 years was a hotfix that MS quickly pulled that
caused a 7b error with a free call/hotfix that I didn't nbeed b/c a parallel
install fix did the trick. I pretty much remotely admin a couple dozen
clients w/out issue. I VNC or RDP to their desktop to be their admin even
though I'm in bed half the time.

--
Sincerely,
Mark Mancini, CCA, CCNA, Master CIW&CI, CNE 4&5, MCSE+I 4&2000
www.MCSE2000.com
www.AppLauncher.com



"Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
news:%23p4PpclTDHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> What is the general consensus regarding performing regular maintenance,
and
> updates to SBS Servers via terminal services?
>
> As I add more clients, it's getting harder to visit each regularly for
> maintenance, and more tempting to rely on TS.
>
> Any thoughts or experiences?
>
> Gavin
>
>



Re: Mainteneace and updates remotely by Gavin

Gavin
Sun Jul 20 08:02:05 CDT 2003

Why VNC as opposed to built in Terminal Services in Remote ADmin mode, Kev?

"Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
news:uxS0ggnTDHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I install the VNC service on all my SBS servers, and all workstations at
> each site. So, remotely all I need to do is initiate a VPN session to the
> server, and run VNC. I can run WU, I can even reboot the server --- all
as
> if I was there.
> -kw
>
> "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> news:%23p4PpclTDHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > What is the general consensus regarding performing regular maintenance,
> and
> > updates to SBS Servers via terminal services?
> >
> > As I add more clients, it's getting harder to visit each regularly for
> > maintenance, and more tempting to rely on TS.
> >
> > Any thoughts or experiences?
> >
> > Gavin
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Mainteneace and updates remotely by Kevin

Kevin
Sun Jul 20 09:23:56 CDT 2003

Because often there is a message on the server that I want to see, and VNC
allows me to "see" what's on the server monitor - vs opening a new user
session via TS.
-kw

"Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
news:OpuVE6rTDHA.2252@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Why VNC as opposed to built in Terminal Services in Remote ADmin mode,
Kev?
>
> "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:uxS0ggnTDHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I install the VNC service on all my SBS servers, and all workstations at
> > each site. So, remotely all I need to do is initiate a VPN session to
the
> > server, and run VNC. I can run WU, I can even reboot the server --- all
> as
> > if I was there.
> > -kw
> >
> > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23p4PpclTDHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > What is the general consensus regarding performing regular
maintenance,
> > and
> > > updates to SBS Servers via terminal services?
> > >
> > > As I add more clients, it's getting harder to visit each regularly for
> > > maintenance, and more tempting to rely on TS.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts or experiences?
> > >
> > > Gavin
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Mainteneace and updates remotely by Gavin

Gavin
Sun Jul 20 12:04:28 CDT 2003

Doesn't logging onto the "console" via TS do the same thing, as opposed to
just a session?

"Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
news:eE3LPqsTDHA.212@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Because often there is a message on the server that I want to see, and VNC
> allows me to "see" what's on the server monitor - vs opening a new user
> session via TS.
> -kw
>
> "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> news:OpuVE6rTDHA.2252@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Why VNC as opposed to built in Terminal Services in Remote ADmin mode,
> Kev?
> >
> > "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> > news:uxS0ggnTDHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > I install the VNC service on all my SBS servers, and all workstations
at
> > > each site. So, remotely all I need to do is initiate a VPN session to
> the
> > > server, and run VNC. I can run WU, I can even reboot the server ---
all
> > as
> > > if I was there.
> > > -kw
> > >
> > > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23p4PpclTDHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > What is the general consensus regarding performing regular
> maintenance,
> > > and
> > > > updates to SBS Servers via terminal services?
> > > >
> > > > As I add more clients, it's getting harder to visit each regularly
for
> > > > maintenance, and more tempting to rely on TS.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts or experiences?
> > > >
> > > > Gavin
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Mainteneace and updates remotely by Susan

Susan
Sun Jul 20 12:12:28 CDT 2003

Not necessarily... sometimes there's a front message ....session 0 or something
like that [I forget the technical term for it] and TS may not show you that the
console is sitting there waiting for you to "OK" something.

Gavin wrote:

> Doesn't logging onto the "console" via TS do the same thing, as opposed to
> just a session?
>
> "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:eE3LPqsTDHA.212@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Because often there is a message on the server that I want to see, and VNC
> > allows me to "see" what's on the server monitor - vs opening a new user
> > session via TS.
> > -kw
> >
> > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > news:OpuVE6rTDHA.2252@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Why VNC as opposed to built in Terminal Services in Remote ADmin mode,
> > Kev?
> > >
> > > "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> > > news:uxS0ggnTDHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > I install the VNC service on all my SBS servers, and all workstations
> at
> > > > each site. So, remotely all I need to do is initiate a VPN session to
> > the
> > > > server, and run VNC. I can run WU, I can even reboot the server ---
> all
> > > as
> > > > if I was there.
> > > > -kw
> > > >
> > > > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:%23p4PpclTDHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > What is the general consensus regarding performing regular
> > maintenance,
> > > > and
> > > > > updates to SBS Servers via terminal services?
> > > > >
> > > > > As I add more clients, it's getting harder to visit each regularly
> for
> > > > > maintenance, and more tempting to rely on TS.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any thoughts or experiences?
> > > > >
> > > > > Gavin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

--
"Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being, not a
state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does not win.
Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your patches. Demand
better security from vendors and hold them responsible. Use what
you have, and make sure you know how to use it properly and effectively."
~ Rain Forest Puppy

http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt



Re: Mainteneace and updates remotely by Merv

Merv
Sun Jul 20 12:55:53 CDT 2003

Nope, you've got the right technical term Susan: Session 0.

An excerpt from a previous post by Brother Middleton...

<SNIP>
With Windows 2000 Server, the Terminal Services is the same core
functionality, but there is a single, slightly less robust condition: W2K TS
controls a virtual session, but not the "console", aka Session 0, aka, what
you see on the screen when you sit at the computer. Therefore, applications
like VNC and PCanywhere provide the ability to literally control the Session
0 console. There are some occasions when this ability is essential to an
Administration task (like doing Service Pack updates, or altering Terminal
Services itself), but that's the extent of it.
<END SNIP>

The full Google thread...
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=OeB2O9XwCHA.2668%40TK2MSFTNGP12&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26q%3Dconsole%2Bsession%2B0%2Bmiddleton

--
Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
===================================
"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net> wrote
in message news:3F1ACD7C.8AC8E012@pacbell.net...
> Not necessarily... sometimes there's a front message ....session 0 or
something
> like that [I forget the technical term for it] and TS may not show you
that the
> console is sitting there waiting for you to "OK" something.
>
> Gavin wrote:
>
> > Doesn't logging onto the "console" via TS do the same thing, as opposed
to
> > just a session?
> >
> > "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> > news:eE3LPqsTDHA.212@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Because often there is a message on the server that I want to see, and
VNC
> > > allows me to "see" what's on the server monitor - vs opening a new
user
> > > session via TS.
> > > -kw
> > >
> > > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OpuVE6rTDHA.2252@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > Why VNC as opposed to built in Terminal Services in Remote ADmin
mode,
> > > Kev?
> > > >
> > > > "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:uxS0ggnTDHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > I install the VNC service on all my SBS servers, and all
workstations
> > at
> > > > > each site. So, remotely all I need to do is initiate a VPN session
to
> > > the
> > > > > server, and run VNC. I can run WU, I can even reboot the
server ---
> > all
> > > > as
> > > > > if I was there.
> > > > > -kw
> > > > >
> > > > > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:%23p4PpclTDHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > What is the general consensus regarding performing regular
> > > maintenance,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > updates to SBS Servers via terminal services?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As I add more clients, it's getting harder to visit each
regularly
> > for
> > > > > > maintenance, and more tempting to rely on TS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any thoughts or experiences?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gavin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being, not a
> state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does not win.
> Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your patches. Demand
> better security from vendors and hold them responsible. Use what
> you have, and make sure you know how to use it properly and effectively."
> ~ Rain Forest Puppy
>
> http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
>
>



Re: Mainteneace and updates remotely by Gavin

Gavin
Sun Jul 20 20:38:15 CDT 2003

The Remote Desktop utility included as part of the adminpak.msi on teh
WIndows 2003 disk allows connection to the console of a terminal server. The
help file states the following:

A connection to the console session always provides a full desktop session,
just as you would see if you were logged on to the server locally. If you
want to start a specific program on connection to the server, you must
uncheck Connect to console ands specify a program path and file name on the
Other tab.

I assume this is the same as a VNC or PC Anywhere session?

Gavin

"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net> wrote
in message news:3F1ACD7C.8AC8E012@pacbell.net...
> Not necessarily... sometimes there's a front message ....session 0 or
something
> like that [I forget the technical term for it] and TS may not show you
that the
> console is sitting there waiting for you to "OK" something.
>
> Gavin wrote:
>
> > Doesn't logging onto the "console" via TS do the same thing, as opposed
to
> > just a session?
> >
> > "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> > news:eE3LPqsTDHA.212@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Because often there is a message on the server that I want to see, and
VNC
> > > allows me to "see" what's on the server monitor - vs opening a new
user
> > > session via TS.
> > > -kw
> > >
> > > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OpuVE6rTDHA.2252@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > Why VNC as opposed to built in Terminal Services in Remote ADmin
mode,
> > > Kev?
> > > >
> > > > "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:uxS0ggnTDHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > I install the VNC service on all my SBS servers, and all
workstations
> > at
> > > > > each site. So, remotely all I need to do is initiate a VPN session
to
> > > the
> > > > > server, and run VNC. I can run WU, I can even reboot the
server ---
> > all
> > > > as
> > > > > if I was there.
> > > > > -kw
> > > > >
> > > > > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:%23p4PpclTDHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > What is the general consensus regarding performing regular
> > > maintenance,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > updates to SBS Servers via terminal services?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As I add more clients, it's getting harder to visit each
regularly
> > for
> > > > > > maintenance, and more tempting to rely on TS.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any thoughts or experiences?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gavin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being, not a
> state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does not win.
> Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your patches. Demand
> better security from vendors and hold them responsible. Use what
> you have, and make sure you know how to use it properly and effectively."
> ~ Rain Forest Puppy
>
> http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
>
>



Re: Mainteneace and updates remotely by Kevin

Kevin
Sun Jul 20 21:05:36 CDT 2003

Gavin,

I really don't know the answer to your question. All I know is that VNC is
free, and works, and allows me to see exactly what is on a user or servert
console screen, and respond accordingly.

Also, the info you quote is for Win 2003.
-kw

"Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
news:%23Q%23A9gyTDHA.2220@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> The Remote Desktop utility included as part of the adminpak.msi on teh
> WIndows 2003 disk allows connection to the console of a terminal server.
The
> help file states the following:
>
> A connection to the console session always provides a full desktop
session,
> just as you would see if you were logged on to the server locally. If you
> want to start a specific program on connection to the server, you must
> uncheck Connect to console ands specify a program path and file name on
the
> Other tab.
>
> I assume this is the same as a VNC or PC Anywhere session?
>
> Gavin
>
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
wrote
> in message news:3F1ACD7C.8AC8E012@pacbell.net...
> > Not necessarily... sometimes there's a front message ....session 0 or
> something
> > like that [I forget the technical term for it] and TS may not show you
> that the
> > console is sitting there waiting for you to "OK" something.
> >
> > Gavin wrote:
> >
> > > Doesn't logging onto the "console" via TS do the same thing, as
opposed
> to
> > > just a session?
> > >
> > > "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> > > news:eE3LPqsTDHA.212@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > Because often there is a message on the server that I want to see,
and
> VNC
> > > > allows me to "see" what's on the server monitor - vs opening a new
> user
> > > > session via TS.
> > > > -kw
> > > >
> > > > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:OpuVE6rTDHA.2252@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Why VNC as opposed to built in Terminal Services in Remote ADmin
> mode,
> > > > Kev?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:uxS0ggnTDHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > I install the VNC service on all my SBS servers, and all
> workstations
> > > at
> > > > > > each site. So, remotely all I need to do is initiate a VPN
session
> to
> > > > the
> > > > > > server, and run VNC. I can run WU, I can even reboot the
> server ---
> > > all
> > > > > as
> > > > > > if I was there.
> > > > > > -kw
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:%23p4PpclTDHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > What is the general consensus regarding performing regular
> > > > maintenance,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > updates to SBS Servers via terminal services?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I add more clients, it's getting harder to visit each
> regularly
> > > for
> > > > > > > maintenance, and more tempting to rely on TS.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any thoughts or experiences?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gavin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being, not a
> > state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does not win.
> > Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your patches. Demand
> > better security from vendors and hold them responsible. Use what
> > you have, and make sure you know how to use it properly and
effectively."
> > ~ Rain Forest Puppy
> >
> > http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Mainteneace and updates remotely by SuperGumby

SuperGumby
Sun Jul 20 21:29:16 CDT 2003

access to console0 was supposed to be implemented for 2k3, strangely enough
I haven't tried it enough to say whether it is FULLY implemented. ie.
whether an alert visible on console0 shows when you subsequently connect via
TS.

W2K will definitely show info on console0 which cannot be accessed from a
TS. The limiting factor being that console0 cannot remotely control, nor be
remotely controlled by, another session.


"Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
news:%23Q%23A9gyTDHA.2220@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> The Remote Desktop utility included as part of the adminpak.msi on teh
> WIndows 2003 disk allows connection to the console of a terminal server.
The
> help file states the following:
>
> A connection to the console session always provides a full desktop
session,
> just as you would see if you were logged on to the server locally. If you
> want to start a specific program on connection to the server, you must
> uncheck Connect to console ands specify a program path and file name on
the
> Other tab.
>
> I assume this is the same as a VNC or PC Anywhere session?
>
> Gavin
>
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
wrote
> in message news:3F1ACD7C.8AC8E012@pacbell.net...
> > Not necessarily... sometimes there's a front message ....session 0 or
> something
> > like that [I forget the technical term for it] and TS may not show you
> that the
> > console is sitting there waiting for you to "OK" something.
> >
> > Gavin wrote:
> >
> > > Doesn't logging onto the "console" via TS do the same thing, as
opposed
> to
> > > just a session?
> > >
> > > "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> > > news:eE3LPqsTDHA.212@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > Because often there is a message on the server that I want to see,
and
> VNC
> > > > allows me to "see" what's on the server monitor - vs opening a new
> user
> > > > session via TS.
> > > > -kw
> > > >
> > > > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:OpuVE6rTDHA.2252@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Why VNC as opposed to built in Terminal Services in Remote ADmin
> mode,
> > > > Kev?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:uxS0ggnTDHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > I install the VNC service on all my SBS servers, and all
> workstations
> > > at
> > > > > > each site. So, remotely all I need to do is initiate a VPN
session
> to
> > > > the
> > > > > > server, and run VNC. I can run WU, I can even reboot the
> server ---
> > > all
> > > > > as
> > > > > > if I was there.
> > > > > > -kw
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:%23p4PpclTDHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > What is the general consensus regarding performing regular
> > > > maintenance,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > updates to SBS Servers via terminal services?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I add more clients, it's getting harder to visit each
> regularly
> > > for
> > > > > > > maintenance, and more tempting to rely on TS.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any thoughts or experiences?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gavin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being, not a
> > state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does not win.
> > Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your patches. Demand
> > better security from vendors and hold them responsible. Use what
> > you have, and make sure you know how to use it properly and
effectively."
> > ~ Rain Forest Puppy
> >
> > http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Mainteneace and updates remotely by Merv

Merv
Sun Jul 20 21:41:17 CDT 2003

> A connection to the console session always provides a full desktop
session,
> just as you would see if you were logged on to the server locally. If you
> want to start a specific program on connection to the server, you must
> uncheck Connect to console ands specify a program path and file name on
the
> Other tab.

Looks like this is an enhancement to Windows 2003 TS.

How to Connect to and Shadow the Console Session with Windows Server 2003
Terminal Services
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;278845

--
Merv Porter
SBS-MVP
====================================

"Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
news:#Q#A9gyTDHA.2220@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> The Remote Desktop utility included as part of the adminpak.msi on teh
> WIndows 2003 disk allows connection to the console of a terminal server.
The
> help file states the following:
>
> A connection to the console session always provides a full desktop
session,
> just as you would see if you were logged on to the server locally. If you
> want to start a specific program on connection to the server, you must
> uncheck Connect to console ands specify a program path and file name on
the
> Other tab.
>
> I assume this is the same as a VNC or PC Anywhere session?
>
> Gavin
>
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
wrote
> in message news:3F1ACD7C.8AC8E012@pacbell.net...
> > Not necessarily... sometimes there's a front message ....session 0 or
> something
> > like that [I forget the technical term for it] and TS may not show you
> that the
> > console is sitting there waiting for you to "OK" something.
> >
> > Gavin wrote:
> >
> > > Doesn't logging onto the "console" via TS do the same thing, as
opposed
> to
> > > just a session?
> > >
> > > "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> > > news:eE3LPqsTDHA.212@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > Because often there is a message on the server that I want to see,
and
> VNC
> > > > allows me to "see" what's on the server monitor - vs opening a new
> user
> > > > session via TS.
> > > > -kw
> > > >
> > > > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:OpuVE6rTDHA.2252@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Why VNC as opposed to built in Terminal Services in Remote ADmin
> mode,
> > > > Kev?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:uxS0ggnTDHA.2324@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > I install the VNC service on all my SBS servers, and all
> workstations
> > > at
> > > > > > each site. So, remotely all I need to do is initiate a VPN
session
> to
> > > > the
> > > > > > server, and run VNC. I can run WU, I can even reboot the
> server ---
> > > all
> > > > > as
> > > > > > if I was there.
> > > > > > -kw
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Gavin" <gavin@interprom.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:%23p4PpclTDHA.2152@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > What is the general consensus regarding performing regular
> > > > maintenance,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > updates to SBS Servers via terminal services?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As I add more clients, it's getting harder to visit each
> regularly
> > > for
> > > > > > > maintenance, and more tempting to rely on TS.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any thoughts or experiences?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gavin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being, not a
> > state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does not win.
> > Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your patches. Demand
> > better security from vendors and hold them responsible. Use what
> > you have, and make sure you know how to use it properly and
effectively."
> > ~ Rain Forest Puppy
> >
> > http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
> >
> >
>
>