Hello people,

We are moving to a new building, and I thought I would take the
opportunity to upgrade from SBS2000 to 2003. The boss has also
volunteered to buy us a new machine for the server. I think it is
going to be a similar spec, but with IDE instead of SCSI drives (more
space, possibly not as fast).

I am looking for some advice about how best to set-up and configure
the new network, and how best to make use of the old server. I already
have a copy of SBS 2003 which came with this year's Action Pack
subscription (I have two copies of SBS 2000, one which we bought with
the original server, and one from last year's Action Pack). However, I
believe it is not possible to have two SBS machines connected on the
same network. Is this correct? Obviously it would be useful to have
both machines connected together to transfer data across (although I
do have a couple of removable USB drives that I could use for this if
necessary).
Currently I have an old 486 machine that I am using as a web server
(running Apache on Win98 with Web Forwarding from the SBS machine).
This is very slow, but does the job (our main website is hosted
externally at the ISP). My thought is to throw this away and perhaps
use the old server for this instead. When I originallay set this up I
was advised by people in this group that having a web server sitting
in the SBS network was not a good idea from a security point of view,
and instead I should have set it up in it's own 'DMZ'. I decided to
take the risk and don't seem to have had any problems. Would the same
considerations apply with SBS 2003? If I decide to use the old SBS box
for the web server, it would seem a bit of a waste to have it sitting
there just doing this one job. I would prefer to have it on the
network and available for other things, possibly hosting a database.
Might it be a good idea to have exchange running on this machine
instead of the new server?

Anyway, this will hopefully all be happening in a couple of weeks time
(as soon as the boss signs the lease on the new building). This will
only be my second SBS installation, and my first attempt at copying
stuff across from one to another so any advance warning of any likely
problems would be greatly appreciated. Are there any patches I should
download in advance?

Thanks,
Phil.

Re: Imminent upgrade to SBS2003 & new hardware by Marina

Marina
Wed Apr 28 05:05:20 CDT 2004

Start here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/default.mspx

And no, you can't have two sbs's in one network.

--
Regards,

Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP

"Phil Preen" <phil@triton-technology.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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> Hello people,
>
> We are moving to a new building, and I thought I would take the
> opportunity to upgrade from SBS2000 to 2003. The boss has also
> volunteered to buy us a new machine for the server. I think it is
> going to be a similar spec, but with IDE instead of SCSI drives (more
> space, possibly not as fast).
>
> I am looking for some advice about how best to set-up and configure
> the new network, and how best to make use of the old server. I already
> have a copy of SBS 2003 which came with this year's Action Pack
> subscription (I have two copies of SBS 2000, one which we bought with
> the original server, and one from last year's Action Pack). However, I
> believe it is not possible to have two SBS machines connected on the
> same network. Is this correct? Obviously it would be useful to have
> both machines connected together to transfer data across (although I
> do have a couple of removable USB drives that I could use for this if
> necessary).
> Currently I have an old 486 machine that I am using as a web server
> (running Apache on Win98 with Web Forwarding from the SBS machine).
> This is very slow, but does the job (our main website is hosted
> externally at the ISP). My thought is to throw this away and perhaps
> use the old server for this instead. When I originallay set this up I
> was advised by people in this group that having a web server sitting
> in the SBS network was not a good idea from a security point of view,
> and instead I should have set it up in it's own 'DMZ'. I decided to
> take the risk and don't seem to have had any problems. Would the same
> considerations apply with SBS 2003? If I decide to use the old SBS box
> for the web server, it would seem a bit of a waste to have it sitting
> there just doing this one job. I would prefer to have it on the
> network and available for other things, possibly hosting a database.
> Might it be a good idea to have exchange running on this machine
> instead of the new server?
>
> Anyway, this will hopefully all be happening in a couple of weeks time
> (as soon as the boss signs the lease on the new building). This will
> only be my second SBS installation, and my first attempt at copying
> stuff across from one to another so any advance warning of any likely
> problems would be greatly appreciated. Are there any patches I should
> download in advance?
>
> Thanks,
> Phil.



Re: Imminent upgrade to SBS2003 & new hardware by phil

phil
Thu Apr 29 06:19:01 CDT 2004

"Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in message news:<u5jlmhQLEHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
> Start here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/default.mspx

Thanks for that. Unfortunately this page contains nothing of relevance
to my specific questions, unless you are suggesting that I read the
whole of the sbs section of the Microsoft website?
>
> And no, you can't have two sbs's in one network.

That's what I thought, but I wondered if there was a way of
re-configuring the old server so that it isn't a domain controller (or
initially setting up the new machine so it's not the controller), at
least temporarily while I transfer files across from one to another.
Alternatively is there a simple way to connect the two networks
together in order to transfer the data.
>

Re: Imminent upgrade to SBS2003 & new hardware by Marina

Marina
Thu Apr 29 06:42:32 CDT 2004

There are links on that site that will get you to the page about upgrading
and migrating.

You can't demote the old SBS. Just format....

--
Regards,

Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP

"Phil Preen" <phil@triton-technology.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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> "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in
message news:<u5jlmhQLEHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
> > Start here:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/default.mspx
>
> Thanks for that. Unfortunately this page contains nothing of relevance
> to my specific questions, unless you are suggesting that I read the
> whole of the sbs section of the Microsoft website?
> >
> > And no, you can't have two sbs's in one network.
>
> That's what I thought, but I wondered if there was a way of
> re-configuring the old server so that it isn't a domain controller (or
> initially setting up the new machine so it's not the controller), at
> least temporarily while I transfer files across from one to another.
> Alternatively is there a simple way to connect the two networks
> together in order to transfer the data.
> >



Re: Imminent upgrade to SBS2003 & new hardware by phil

phil
Thu Apr 29 08:55:59 CDT 2004

"Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in message news:<u5jlmhQLEHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
> Start here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/default.mspx

I haven't searched through the whole of the Microsoft SBS site yet,
but I found a link to SBS_MigratingSBS2k.doc and this seems to cover
most of what I want to do. I haven't read it all yet, but I don't
think it will help me decide what best to do with the old server, once
the new one is set-up.
>
> And no, you can't have two sbs's in one network.

The migration document seems to explain how I can connect the two
machines together to transfer the data across. Once this is done,
presumably I can wipe the old machine, and install Windows 2000 Server
on it, to avoid the 2xSBS restriction. I should then be able to use it
for a web server, database server or whatever. Does that sound a
sensible thing to do?

Re: Imminent upgrade to SBS2003 & new hardware by Marina

Marina
Thu Apr 29 09:22:06 CDT 2004

You've got it.

--
Regards,

Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP

"Phil Preen" <phil@triton-technology.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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> "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in
message news:<u5jlmhQLEHA.1192@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
> > Start here:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/default.mspx
>
> I haven't searched through the whole of the Microsoft SBS site yet,
> but I found a link to SBS_MigratingSBS2k.doc and this seems to cover
> most of what I want to do. I haven't read it all yet, but I don't
> think it will help me decide what best to do with the old server, once
> the new one is set-up.
> >
> > And no, you can't have two sbs's in one network.
>
> The migration document seems to explain how I can connect the two
> machines together to transfer the data across. Once this is done,
> presumably I can wipe the old machine, and install Windows 2000 Server
> on it, to avoid the 2xSBS restriction. I should then be able to use it
> for a web server, database server or whatever. Does that sound a
> sensible thing to do?