We currently have a SBS2000 server and we are looking to
go to SBS2003 server starting from scratch, not upgrading.
(me might get the upgrade version, and I do not even know
if that's a good idea since SBS2003 comes in different
flavors)

Would any of you with enough time and desire to help,
please outline the ideal Server configuration for a
SBS2003 server? Feel free to suggest the O/S version and
hardware brand and model.

Thanks

Re: Ideal SBS 2003 config by Javier

Javier
Mon Dec 06 14:46:28 CST 2004

I suggest you give us some details first. :-)

If you want a meaningful suggestion... you should start by answering some
questions like-> How many users? How you plan to use the server? What
components you need and/or plan to use (i.e. ISA/SQL/Sharepoint/etc.)? Any
information relevant to your setup will be important (remote offices, remote
users, etc.).

The more information you give to us... you will get a better the
recommendation.

--
Javier [SBS MVP]
www.msmvps.com/javier
<< SBS ROCKS!!! >>

"JohnJump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:187401c4dbd1$a7bb3c10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> We currently have a SBS2000 server and we are looking to
> go to SBS2003 server starting from scratch, not upgrading.
> (me might get the upgrade version, and I do not even know
> if that's a good idea since SBS2003 comes in different
> flavors)
>
> Would any of you with enough time and desire to help,
> please outline the ideal Server configuration for a
> SBS2003 server? Feel free to suggest the O/S version and
> hardware brand and model.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>



Re: Ideal SBS 2003 config by Kevin

Kevin
Mon Dec 06 15:14:13 CST 2004

H/W brand is personal choice ...

Since you have SBS2000 already, are you using ISA and/or SQL? If so, then
you want SBS2003 Premium.
But, everythng else depends on what you have or will need.

--
Kevin Weilbacher [SBS-MVP]
"The days pass by so quickly now, the nights are seldom long"



"JohnJump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:187401c4dbd1$a7bb3c10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> We currently have a SBS2000 server and we are looking to
> go to SBS2003 server starting from scratch, not upgrading.
> (me might get the upgrade version, and I do not even know
> if that's a good idea since SBS2003 comes in different
> flavors)
>
> Would any of you with enough time and desire to help,
> please outline the ideal Server configuration for a
> SBS2003 server? Feel free to suggest the O/S version and
> hardware brand and model.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>



Re: Ideal SBS 2003 config by SuperGumby

SuperGumby
Mon Dec 06 15:34:10 CST 2004

I think KW and JG have missed an important point, while making other
important points.

As a SBS2000 owner you are eligible for upgrade pricing to SBS2003 Premium.
In AU the price is about the same as SBS2003 Standard as a straight
purchase. So, you really don't have a choice software wise, buy the upgrade
to SBS2003 Premium even if you don't use ISA/SQL.

SBS2003 newsgroup is microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs, your question
would be better off there, when you decide to give us a little more info,
that is :-)

ROUGH guideline.
SBS is not CPU intensive, any current CPU will do. For some wierd reason I
would rather a Xeon.
(I can copy and paste from a recent post) SBS is IO and memory hungry, fast
HDDs, fast FSB, fast RAM of sufficient quantity and the CPU will sit idle
most of the time.
2GB of RAM will suit almost all scenarios.


"JohnJump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:187401c4dbd1$a7bb3c10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> We currently have a SBS2000 server and we are looking to
> go to SBS2003 server starting from scratch, not upgrading.
> (me might get the upgrade version, and I do not even know
> if that's a good idea since SBS2003 comes in different
> flavors)
>
> Would any of you with enough time and desire to help,
> please outline the ideal Server configuration for a
> SBS2003 server? Feel free to suggest the O/S version and
> hardware brand and model.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>



Re: Ideal SBS 2003 config by John

John
Mon Dec 06 17:26:05 CST 2004

Thanks Super Gumby for your answer. Being more specific,
I'm needing more help on the hardware side.

I'm doing some customization on the Dell site :

I want to do RAID 1 with two 146 GB HD's.
they offer PERC4-DC 1 int channel 1 ex or 2 ext channel
(what's the difference)

Which Tape backup unit do I want? They offer PowerVault
100T, DAT72 36/72 GB. Is that enough for my Raid 1
solution?

Which Tape backup software do I want?. DELL Options follow:

"Suites are the core Tape Backup Software. You cannot use
On-Line or Remote Server Packs without the core TBU
software suite. Please note the following: (1) Tapeware
Remote Server Pack is an option for multi-server
environments. It requires Tapeware Software bundled with a
Tape Backup Unit (above). (2) Veritas does not support IDE
Drives. None


TBU S/W Veritas BUE Online Options Pack [add $1,399 or
$37/month1]


TBU S/W Veritas BUE Remote Server Pack [add $299 or
$8/month1]


TBU S/W Veritas BUE Enhanced Suite [add $509 or
$13/month1]


TBU S/W Veritas BUE Professional Suite [add $1,699 or
$45/month1]


TBU S/W TapeWare Enhanced Suite [add $299 or $8/month1]


TBU S/W TapeWare Remote Server Pack [add $99 or
$2/month1]


Veritas Backup Exec, SBS Suite [add $349 or $9/month1]


TBU S/W TapeWare, Server Suite [add $199 or $5/month1]


TBU S/W TapeWare, Power Suite [add $99 or $2/month1] "

I appreciate your help

Thanks







>-----Original Message-----
>I think KW and JG have missed an important point, while
making other
>important points.
>
>As a SBS2000 owner you are eligible for upgrade pricing
to SBS2003 Premium.
>In AU the price is about the same as SBS2003 Standard as
a straight
>purchase. So, you really don't have a choice software
wise, buy the upgrade
>to SBS2003 Premium even if you don't use ISA/SQL.
>
>SBS2003 newsgroup is microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs,
your question
>would be better off there, when you decide to give us a
little more info,
>that is :-)
>
>ROUGH guideline.
>SBS is not CPU intensive, any current CPU will do. For
some wierd reason I
>would rather a Xeon.
>(I can copy and paste from a recent post) SBS is IO and
memory hungry, fast
>HDDs, fast FSB, fast RAM of sufficient quantity and the
CPU will sit idle
>most of the time.
>2GB of RAM will suit almost all scenarios.
>
>
>"JohnJump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:187401c4dbd1$a7bb3c10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> We currently have a SBS2000 server and we are looking to
>> go to SBS2003 server starting from scratch, not
upgrading.
>> (me might get the upgrade version, and I do not even
know
>> if that's a good idea since SBS2003 comes in different
>> flavors)
>>
>> Would any of you with enough time and desire to help,
>> please outline the ideal Server configuration for a
>> SBS2003 server? Feel free to suggest the O/S version and
>> hardware brand and model.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

Re: Ideal SBS 2003 config by Jim

Jim
Mon Dec 06 19:45:49 CST 2004

Backup solution depends on your data size, not hard drive size. Most
of my accounts backup to a 20/40 tape drive. Others need much more, a
few can backup to a 12/24. I use Backup Exec SBS.

1 channel probably means 2 drives, 2 channel probably means up to 4
drives.

"John Jump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Thanks Super Gumby for your answer. Being more specific,
>I'm needing more help on the hardware side.
>
>I'm doing some customization on the Dell site :
>
>I want to do RAID 1 with two 146 GB HD's.
>they offer PERC4-DC 1 int channel 1 ex or 2 ext channel
>(what's the difference)
>
>Which Tape backup unit do I want? They offer PowerVault
>100T, DAT72 36/72 GB. Is that enough for my Raid 1
>solution?
>
>Which Tape backup software do I want?. DELL Options follow:
>
>"Suites are the core Tape Backup Software. You cannot use
>On-Line or Remote Server Packs without the core TBU
>software suite. Please note the following: (1) Tapeware
>Remote Server Pack is an option for multi-server
>environments. It requires Tapeware Software bundled with a
>Tape Backup Unit (above). (2) Veritas does not support IDE
>Drives. None
>
>
> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Online Options Pack [add $1,399 or
>$37/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Remote Server Pack [add $299 or
>$8/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Enhanced Suite [add $509 or
>$13/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Professional Suite [add $1,699 or
>$45/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W TapeWare Enhanced Suite [add $299 or $8/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W TapeWare Remote Server Pack [add $99 or
>$2/month1]
>
>
> Veritas Backup Exec, SBS Suite [add $349 or $9/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W TapeWare, Server Suite [add $199 or $5/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W TapeWare, Power Suite [add $99 or $2/month1] "
>
>I appreciate your help
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I think KW and JG have missed an important point, while
>making other
>>important points.
>>
>>As a SBS2000 owner you are eligible for upgrade pricing
>to SBS2003 Premium.
>>In AU the price is about the same as SBS2003 Standard as
>a straight
>>purchase. So, you really don't have a choice software
>wise, buy the upgrade
>>to SBS2003 Premium even if you don't use ISA/SQL.
>>
>>SBS2003 newsgroup is microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs,
>your question
>>would be better off there, when you decide to give us a
>little more info,
>>that is :-)
>>
>>ROUGH guideline.
>>SBS is not CPU intensive, any current CPU will do. For
>some wierd reason I
>>would rather a Xeon.
>>(I can copy and paste from a recent post) SBS is IO and
>memory hungry, fast
>>HDDs, fast FSB, fast RAM of sufficient quantity and the
>CPU will sit idle
>>most of the time.
>>2GB of RAM will suit almost all scenarios.
>>
>>
>>"JohnJump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>message
>>news:187401c4dbd1$a7bb3c10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>>> We currently have a SBS2000 server and we are looking to
>>> go to SBS2003 server starting from scratch, not
>upgrading.
>>> (me might get the upgrade version, and I do not even
>know
>>> if that's a good idea since SBS2003 comes in different
>>> flavors)
>>>
>>> Would any of you with enough time and desire to help,
>>> please outline the ideal Server configuration for a
>>> SBS2003 server? Feel free to suggest the O/S version and
>>> hardware brand and model.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>

Jim B. SBS Community Member
remove the mvp to send email

Re: Ideal SBS 2003 config by SuperGumby

SuperGumby
Mon Dec 06 20:07:52 CST 2004

sorry Jim, gotta correct that. He's questioning the number of internal vs
external SCSI channels, with can take 15 devices per channel. I'd only opt
for the 2*external if I was going to connect two drive towers to it.

The client WILL FILL 146GB, this is known as 'Mick's law of diminishing
space', most of the files will be rubbish the client will suggest is
necessary but really doesn't need to be live on the server (this is known as
'Mick's law of garbage collection'). BUT I SWEAR TO YA, the business owner
will probably rather pay for a DLT/AIT backup solution which fits the whole
lot on one tape than 'manage his data'.

"Jim Behning" <jimbehningmvp@atl.mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:ng2ar0h4f1r6cbqqib1c7gm8l2vrqcm7q8@4ax.com...
> Backup solution depends on your data size, not hard drive size. Most
> of my accounts backup to a 20/40 tape drive. Others need much more, a
> few can backup to a 12/24. I use Backup Exec SBS.
>
> 1 channel probably means 2 drives, 2 channel probably means up to 4
> drives.
>
> "John Jump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks Super Gumby for your answer. Being more specific,
>>I'm needing more help on the hardware side.
>>
>>I'm doing some customization on the Dell site :
>>
>>I want to do RAID 1 with two 146 GB HD's.
>>they offer PERC4-DC 1 int channel 1 ex or 2 ext channel
>>(what's the difference)
>>
>>Which Tape backup unit do I want? They offer PowerVault
>>100T, DAT72 36/72 GB. Is that enough for my Raid 1
>>solution?
>>
>>Which Tape backup software do I want?. DELL Options follow:
>>
>>"Suites are the core Tape Backup Software. You cannot use
>>On-Line or Remote Server Packs without the core TBU
>>software suite. Please note the following: (1) Tapeware
>>Remote Server Pack is an option for multi-server
>>environments. It requires Tapeware Software bundled with a
>>Tape Backup Unit (above). (2) Veritas does not support IDE
>>Drives. None
>>
>>
>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Online Options Pack [add $1,399 or
>>$37/month1]
>>
>>
>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Remote Server Pack [add $299 or
>>$8/month1]
>>
>>
>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Enhanced Suite [add $509 or
>>$13/month1]
>>
>>
>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Professional Suite [add $1,699 or
>>$45/month1]
>>
>>
>> TBU S/W TapeWare Enhanced Suite [add $299 or $8/month1]
>>
>>
>> TBU S/W TapeWare Remote Server Pack [add $99 or
>>$2/month1]
>>
>>
>> Veritas Backup Exec, SBS Suite [add $349 or $9/month1]
>>
>>
>> TBU S/W TapeWare, Server Suite [add $199 or $5/month1]
>>
>>
>> TBU S/W TapeWare, Power Suite [add $99 or $2/month1] "
>>
>>I appreciate your help
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I think KW and JG have missed an important point, while
>>making other
>>>important points.
>>>
>>>As a SBS2000 owner you are eligible for upgrade pricing
>>to SBS2003 Premium.
>>>In AU the price is about the same as SBS2003 Standard as
>>a straight
>>>purchase. So, you really don't have a choice software
>>wise, buy the upgrade
>>>to SBS2003 Premium even if you don't use ISA/SQL.
>>>
>>>SBS2003 newsgroup is microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs,
>>your question
>>>would be better off there, when you decide to give us a
>>little more info,
>>>that is :-)
>>>
>>>ROUGH guideline.
>>>SBS is not CPU intensive, any current CPU will do. For
>>some wierd reason I
>>>would rather a Xeon.
>>>(I can copy and paste from a recent post) SBS is IO and
>>memory hungry, fast
>>>HDDs, fast FSB, fast RAM of sufficient quantity and the
>>CPU will sit idle
>>>most of the time.
>>>2GB of RAM will suit almost all scenarios.
>>>
>>>
>>>"JohnJump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>message
>>>news:187401c4dbd1$a7bb3c10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>>>> We currently have a SBS2000 server and we are looking to
>>>> go to SBS2003 server starting from scratch, not
>>upgrading.
>>>> (me might get the upgrade version, and I do not even
>>know
>>>> if that's a good idea since SBS2003 comes in different
>>>> flavors)
>>>>
>>>> Would any of you with enough time and desire to help,
>>>> please outline the ideal Server configuration for a
>>>> SBS2003 server? Feel free to suggest the O/S version and
>>>> hardware brand and model.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>
> Jim B. SBS Community Member
> remove the mvp to send email



Re: Ideal SBS 2003 config by Lanwench

Lanwench
Mon Dec 06 21:52:26 CST 2004

SuperGumby [SBS MVP] wrote:
> sorry Jim, gotta correct that. He's questioning the number of
> internal vs external SCSI channels, with can take 15 devices per
> channel. I'd only opt for the 2*external if I was going to connect
> two drive towers to it.
>
> The client WILL FILL 146GB, this is known as 'Mick's law of
> diminishing space', most of the files will be rubbish the client will
> suggest is necessary but really doesn't need to be live on the server
> (this is known as 'Mick's law of garbage collection'). BUT I SWEAR TO
> YA, the business owner will probably rather pay for a DLT/AIT backup
> solution which fits the whole lot on one tape than 'manage his data'.

One of my clients had a meeting with her staff recently, and said, either
the company can invest in more disk & bigger tape backup, or you guys can
spend some time cleaning up your ___ on the server and we can use the money
to give you raises instead.

Guess which they chose?

I like this woman. :)


>
> "Jim Behning" <jimbehningmvp@atl.mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:ng2ar0h4f1r6cbqqib1c7gm8l2vrqcm7q8@4ax.com...
>> Backup solution depends on your data size, not hard drive size. Most
>> of my accounts backup to a 20/40 tape drive. Others need much more, a
>> few can backup to a 12/24. I use Backup Exec SBS.
>>
>> 1 channel probably means 2 drives, 2 channel probably means up to 4
>> drives.
>>
>> "John Jump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Super Gumby for your answer. Being more specific,
>>> I'm needing more help on the hardware side.
>>>
>>> I'm doing some customization on the Dell site :
>>>
>>> I want to do RAID 1 with two 146 GB HD's.
>>> they offer PERC4-DC 1 int channel 1 ex or 2 ext channel
>>> (what's the difference)
>>>
>>> Which Tape backup unit do I want? They offer PowerVault
>>> 100T, DAT72 36/72 GB. Is that enough for my Raid 1
>>> solution?
>>>
>>> Which Tape backup software do I want?. DELL Options follow:
>>>
>>> "Suites are the core Tape Backup Software. You cannot use
>>> On-Line or Remote Server Packs without the core TBU
>>> software suite. Please note the following: (1) Tapeware
>>> Remote Server Pack is an option for multi-server
>>> environments. It requires Tapeware Software bundled with a
>>> Tape Backup Unit (above). (2) Veritas does not support IDE
>>> Drives. None
>>>
>>>
>>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Online Options Pack [add $1,399 or
>>> $37/month1]
>>>
>>>
>>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Remote Server Pack [add $299 or
>>> $8/month1]
>>>
>>>
>>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Enhanced Suite [add $509 or
>>> $13/month1]
>>>
>>>
>>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Professional Suite [add $1,699 or
>>> $45/month1]
>>>
>>>
>>> TBU S/W TapeWare Enhanced Suite [add $299 or $8/month1]
>>>
>>>
>>> TBU S/W TapeWare Remote Server Pack [add $99 or
>>> $2/month1]
>>>
>>>
>>> Veritas Backup Exec, SBS Suite [add $349 or $9/month1]
>>>
>>>
>>> TBU S/W TapeWare, Server Suite [add $199 or $5/month1]
>>>
>>>
>>> TBU S/W TapeWare, Power Suite [add $99 or $2/month1] "
>>>
>>> I appreciate your help
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> I think KW and JG have missed an important point, while
>>> making other
>>>> important points.
>>>>
>>>> As a SBS2000 owner you are eligible for upgrade pricing
>>> to SBS2003 Premium.
>>>> In AU the price is about the same as SBS2003 Standard as
>>> a straight
>>>> purchase. So, you really don't have a choice software
>>> wise, buy the upgrade
>>>> to SBS2003 Premium even if you don't use ISA/SQL.
>>>>
>>>> SBS2003 newsgroup is microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs,
>>> your question
>>>> would be better off there, when you decide to give us a
>>> little more info,
>>>> that is :-)
>>>>
>>>> ROUGH guideline.
>>>> SBS is not CPU intensive, any current CPU will do. For
>>> some wierd reason I
>>>> would rather a Xeon.
>>>> (I can copy and paste from a recent post) SBS is IO and
>>> memory hungry, fast
>>>> HDDs, fast FSB, fast RAM of sufficient quantity and the
>>> CPU will sit idle
>>>> most of the time.
>>>> 2GB of RAM will suit almost all scenarios.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "JohnJump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>>> news:187401c4dbd1$a7bb3c10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>> We currently have a SBS2000 server and we are looking to
>>>>> go to SBS2003 server starting from scratch, not
>>> upgrading.
>>>>> (me might get the upgrade version, and I do not even
>>> know
>>>>> if that's a good idea since SBS2003 comes in different
>>>>> flavors)
>>>>>
>>>>> Would any of you with enough time and desire to help,
>>>>> please outline the ideal Server configuration for a
>>>>> SBS2003 server? Feel free to suggest the O/S version and
>>>>> hardware brand and model.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>
>> Jim B. SBS Community Member
>> remove the mvp to send email



Re: Ideal SBS 2003 config by SuperGumby

SuperGumby
Tue Dec 07 04:47:14 CST 2004

that should be a common scenario.

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OjEN8YB3EHA.3244@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> SuperGumby [SBS MVP] wrote:
>> sorry Jim, gotta correct that. He's questioning the number of
>> internal vs external SCSI channels, with can take 15 devices per
>> channel. I'd only opt for the 2*external if I was going to connect
>> two drive towers to it.
>>
>> The client WILL FILL 146GB, this is known as 'Mick's law of
>> diminishing space', most of the files will be rubbish the client will
>> suggest is necessary but really doesn't need to be live on the server
>> (this is known as 'Mick's law of garbage collection'). BUT I SWEAR TO
>> YA, the business owner will probably rather pay for a DLT/AIT backup
>> solution which fits the whole lot on one tape than 'manage his data'.
>
> One of my clients had a meeting with her staff recently, and said, either
> the company can invest in more disk & bigger tape backup, or you guys can
> spend some time cleaning up your ___ on the server and we can use the
> money
> to give you raises instead.
>
> Guess which they chose?
>
> I like this woman. :)
>
>
>>
>> "Jim Behning" <jimbehningmvp@atl.mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:ng2ar0h4f1r6cbqqib1c7gm8l2vrqcm7q8@4ax.com...
>>> Backup solution depends on your data size, not hard drive size. Most
>>> of my accounts backup to a 20/40 tape drive. Others need much more, a
>>> few can backup to a 12/24. I use Backup Exec SBS.
>>>
>>> 1 channel probably means 2 drives, 2 channel probably means up to 4
>>> drives.
>>>
>>> "John Jump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Super Gumby for your answer. Being more specific,
>>>> I'm needing more help on the hardware side.
>>>>
>>>> I'm doing some customization on the Dell site :
>>>>
>>>> I want to do RAID 1 with two 146 GB HD's.
>>>> they offer PERC4-DC 1 int channel 1 ex or 2 ext channel
>>>> (what's the difference)
>>>>
>>>> Which Tape backup unit do I want? They offer PowerVault
>>>> 100T, DAT72 36/72 GB. Is that enough for my Raid 1
>>>> solution?
>>>>
>>>> Which Tape backup software do I want?. DELL Options follow:
>>>>
>>>> "Suites are the core Tape Backup Software. You cannot use
>>>> On-Line or Remote Server Packs without the core TBU
>>>> software suite. Please note the following: (1) Tapeware
>>>> Remote Server Pack is an option for multi-server
>>>> environments. It requires Tapeware Software bundled with a
>>>> Tape Backup Unit (above). (2) Veritas does not support IDE
>>>> Drives. None
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Online Options Pack [add $1,399 or
>>>> $37/month1]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Remote Server Pack [add $299 or
>>>> $8/month1]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Enhanced Suite [add $509 or
>>>> $13/month1]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Professional Suite [add $1,699 or
>>>> $45/month1]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TBU S/W TapeWare Enhanced Suite [add $299 or $8/month1]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TBU S/W TapeWare Remote Server Pack [add $99 or
>>>> $2/month1]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Veritas Backup Exec, SBS Suite [add $349 or $9/month1]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TBU S/W TapeWare, Server Suite [add $199 or $5/month1]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TBU S/W TapeWare, Power Suite [add $99 or $2/month1] "
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate your help
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> I think KW and JG have missed an important point, while
>>>> making other
>>>>> important points.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a SBS2000 owner you are eligible for upgrade pricing
>>>> to SBS2003 Premium.
>>>>> In AU the price is about the same as SBS2003 Standard as
>>>> a straight
>>>>> purchase. So, you really don't have a choice software
>>>> wise, buy the upgrade
>>>>> to SBS2003 Premium even if you don't use ISA/SQL.
>>>>>
>>>>> SBS2003 newsgroup is microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs,
>>>> your question
>>>>> would be better off there, when you decide to give us a
>>>> little more info,
>>>>> that is :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> ROUGH guideline.
>>>>> SBS is not CPU intensive, any current CPU will do. For
>>>> some wierd reason I
>>>>> would rather a Xeon.
>>>>> (I can copy and paste from a recent post) SBS is IO and
>>>> memory hungry, fast
>>>>> HDDs, fast FSB, fast RAM of sufficient quantity and the
>>>> CPU will sit idle
>>>>> most of the time.
>>>>> 2GB of RAM will suit almost all scenarios.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "JohnJump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>>> news:187401c4dbd1$a7bb3c10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>>> We currently have a SBS2000 server and we are looking to
>>>>>> go to SBS2003 server starting from scratch, not
>>>> upgrading.
>>>>>> (me might get the upgrade version, and I do not even
>>>> know
>>>>>> if that's a good idea since SBS2003 comes in different
>>>>>> flavors)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would any of you with enough time and desire to help,
>>>>>> please outline the ideal Server configuration for a
>>>>>> SBS2003 server? Feel free to suggest the O/S version and
>>>>>> hardware brand and model.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Jim B. SBS Community Member
>>> remove the mvp to send email
>
>



Re: Ideal SBS 2003 config by Marina

Marina
Tue Dec 07 06:42:43 CST 2004

Power to the women!

--
Regards,

Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> schreef in
bericht news:OjEN8YB3EHA.3244@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> SuperGumby [SBS MVP] wrote:
> > sorry Jim, gotta correct that. He's questioning the number of
> > internal vs external SCSI channels, with can take 15 devices per
> > channel. I'd only opt for the 2*external if I was going to connect
> > two drive towers to it.
> >
> > The client WILL FILL 146GB, this is known as 'Mick's law of
> > diminishing space', most of the files will be rubbish the client will
> > suggest is necessary but really doesn't need to be live on the server
> > (this is known as 'Mick's law of garbage collection'). BUT I SWEAR TO
> > YA, the business owner will probably rather pay for a DLT/AIT backup
> > solution which fits the whole lot on one tape than 'manage his data'.
>
> One of my clients had a meeting with her staff recently, and said, either
> the company can invest in more disk & bigger tape backup, or you guys can
> spend some time cleaning up your ___ on the server and we can use the
money
> to give you raises instead.
>
> Guess which they chose?
>
> I like this woman. :)
>
>
> >
> > "Jim Behning" <jimbehningmvp@atl.mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:ng2ar0h4f1r6cbqqib1c7gm8l2vrqcm7q8@4ax.com...
> >> Backup solution depends on your data size, not hard drive size. Most
> >> of my accounts backup to a 20/40 tape drive. Others need much more, a
> >> few can backup to a 12/24. I use Backup Exec SBS.
> >>
> >> 1 channel probably means 2 drives, 2 channel probably means up to 4
> >> drives.
> >>
> >> "John Jump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Super Gumby for your answer. Being more specific,
> >>> I'm needing more help on the hardware side.
> >>>
> >>> I'm doing some customization on the Dell site :
> >>>
> >>> I want to do RAID 1 with two 146 GB HD's.
> >>> they offer PERC4-DC 1 int channel 1 ex or 2 ext channel
> >>> (what's the difference)
> >>>
> >>> Which Tape backup unit do I want? They offer PowerVault
> >>> 100T, DAT72 36/72 GB. Is that enough for my Raid 1
> >>> solution?
> >>>
> >>> Which Tape backup software do I want?. DELL Options follow:
> >>>
> >>> "Suites are the core Tape Backup Software. You cannot use
> >>> On-Line or Remote Server Packs without the core TBU
> >>> software suite. Please note the following: (1) Tapeware
> >>> Remote Server Pack is an option for multi-server
> >>> environments. It requires Tapeware Software bundled with a
> >>> Tape Backup Unit (above). (2) Veritas does not support IDE
> >>> Drives. None
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Online Options Pack [add $1,399 or
> >>> $37/month1]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Remote Server Pack [add $299 or
> >>> $8/month1]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Enhanced Suite [add $509 or
> >>> $13/month1]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Professional Suite [add $1,699 or
> >>> $45/month1]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TBU S/W TapeWare Enhanced Suite [add $299 or $8/month1]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TBU S/W TapeWare Remote Server Pack [add $99 or
> >>> $2/month1]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Veritas Backup Exec, SBS Suite [add $349 or $9/month1]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TBU S/W TapeWare, Server Suite [add $199 or $5/month1]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> TBU S/W TapeWare, Power Suite [add $99 or $2/month1] "
> >>>
> >>> I appreciate your help
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> I think KW and JG have missed an important point, while
> >>> making other
> >>>> important points.
> >>>>
> >>>> As a SBS2000 owner you are eligible for upgrade pricing
> >>> to SBS2003 Premium.
> >>>> In AU the price is about the same as SBS2003 Standard as
> >>> a straight
> >>>> purchase. So, you really don't have a choice software
> >>> wise, buy the upgrade
> >>>> to SBS2003 Premium even if you don't use ISA/SQL.
> >>>>
> >>>> SBS2003 newsgroup is microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs,
> >>> your question
> >>>> would be better off there, when you decide to give us a
> >>> little more info,
> >>>> that is :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> ROUGH guideline.
> >>>> SBS is not CPU intensive, any current CPU will do. For
> >>> some wierd reason I
> >>>> would rather a Xeon.
> >>>> (I can copy and paste from a recent post) SBS is IO and
> >>> memory hungry, fast
> >>>> HDDs, fast FSB, fast RAM of sufficient quantity and the
> >>> CPU will sit idle
> >>>> most of the time.
> >>>> 2GB of RAM will suit almost all scenarios.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "JohnJump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >>> message
> >>>> news:187401c4dbd1$a7bb3c10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >>>>> We currently have a SBS2000 server and we are looking to
> >>>>> go to SBS2003 server starting from scratch, not
> >>> upgrading.
> >>>>> (me might get the upgrade version, and I do not even
> >>> know
> >>>>> if that's a good idea since SBS2003 comes in different
> >>>>> flavors)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Would any of you with enough time and desire to help,
> >>>>> please outline the ideal Server configuration for a
> >>>>> SBS2003 server? Feel free to suggest the O/S version and
> >>>>> hardware brand and model.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> .
> >>>>
> >>
> >> Jim B. SBS Community Member
> >> remove the mvp to send email
>
>



Re: Ideal SBS 2003 config by Lewej

Lewej
Tue Dec 07 09:31:04 CST 2004

Hi John

PERC controller supports 2 channels. Each channel can have fifteen devices.
This can be both external (i.e. they stick out the back of your machine) or
one sticking out the back and the other inside for use on local HDD's.

You need a SBS suite of backup software. Make sure you get Open File Agent
and Agent for Exhcange (if you use Exchange), these are add on need to
purchased additionally (ands cost extra).

You have two 146 GB HDDs ina RAID1. This means you can get up to 146GB of
data - so I would recommend a SDLT backup device. In a growing company you
may not be able to limit the sytem to using only 20Gb or 36 Gb of data. I
would not recommend using compression whilst backing up to tape

Lewej


"John Jump" wrote:

> Thanks Super Gumby for your answer. Being more specific,
> I'm needing more help on the hardware side.
>
> I'm doing some customization on the Dell site :
>
> I want to do RAID 1 with two 146 GB HD's.
> they offer PERC4-DC 1 int channel 1 ex or 2 ext channel
> (what's the difference)
>
> Which Tape backup unit do I want? They offer PowerVault
> 100T, DAT72 36/72 GB. Is that enough for my Raid 1
> solution?
>
> Which Tape backup software do I want?. DELL Options follow:
>
> "Suites are the core Tape Backup Software. You cannot use
> On-Line or Remote Server Packs without the core TBU
> software suite. Please note the following: (1) Tapeware
> Remote Server Pack is an option for multi-server
> environments. It requires Tapeware Software bundled with a
> Tape Backup Unit (above). (2) Veritas does not support IDE
> Drives. None
>
>
> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Online Options Pack [add $1,399 or
> $37/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Remote Server Pack [add $299 or
> $8/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Enhanced Suite [add $509 or
> $13/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W Veritas BUE Professional Suite [add $1,699 or
> $45/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W TapeWare Enhanced Suite [add $299 or $8/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W TapeWare Remote Server Pack [add $99 or
> $2/month1]
>
>
> Veritas Backup Exec, SBS Suite [add $349 or $9/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W TapeWare, Server Suite [add $199 or $5/month1]
>
>
> TBU S/W TapeWare, Power Suite [add $99 or $2/month1] "
>
> I appreciate your help
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I think KW and JG have missed an important point, while
> making other
> >important points.
> >
> >As a SBS2000 owner you are eligible for upgrade pricing
> to SBS2003 Premium.
> >In AU the price is about the same as SBS2003 Standard as
> a straight
> >purchase. So, you really don't have a choice software
> wise, buy the upgrade
> >to SBS2003 Premium even if you don't use ISA/SQL.
> >
> >SBS2003 newsgroup is microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs,
> your question
> >would be better off there, when you decide to give us a
> little more info,
> >that is :-)
> >
> >ROUGH guideline.
> >SBS is not CPU intensive, any current CPU will do. For
> some wierd reason I
> >would rather a Xeon.
> >(I can copy and paste from a recent post) SBS is IO and
> memory hungry, fast
> >HDDs, fast FSB, fast RAM of sufficient quantity and the
> CPU will sit idle
> >most of the time.
> >2GB of RAM will suit almost all scenarios.
> >
> >
> >"JohnJump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:187401c4dbd1$a7bb3c10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> We currently have a SBS2000 server and we are looking to
> >> go to SBS2003 server starting from scratch, not
> upgrading.
> >> (me might get the upgrade version, and I do not even
> know
> >> if that's a good idea since SBS2003 comes in different
> >> flavors)
> >>
> >> Would any of you with enough time and desire to help,
> >> please outline the ideal Server configuration for a
> >> SBS2003 server? Feel free to suggest the O/S version and
> >> hardware brand and model.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >
>

Re: Ideal SBS 2003 config by Jim

Jim
Wed Dec 08 20:06:43 CST 2004

Oh. Oops.

"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote:

>sorry Jim, gotta correct that. He's questioning the number of internal vs
>external SCSI channels, with can take 15 devices per channel. I'd only opt
>for the 2*external if I was going to connect two drive towers to it.
>
>The client WILL FILL 146GB, this is known as 'Mick's law of diminishing
>space', most of the files will be rubbish the client will suggest is
>necessary but really doesn't need to be live on the server (this is known as
>'Mick's law of garbage collection'). BUT I SWEAR TO YA, the business owner
>will probably rather pay for a DLT/AIT backup solution which fits the whole
>lot on one tape than 'manage his data'.
>
>"Jim Behning" <jimbehningmvp@atl.mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:ng2ar0h4f1r6cbqqib1c7gm8l2vrqcm7q8@4ax.com...
>> Backup solution depends on your data size, not hard drive size. Most
>> of my accounts backup to a 20/40 tape drive. Others need much more, a
>> few can backup to a 12/24. I use Backup Exec SBS.
>>
>> 1 channel probably means 2 drives, 2 channel probably means up to 4
>> drives.
>>
>> "John Jump" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks Super Gumby for your answer. Being more specific,
>>>