Using SBS2000, running Exchange, using GFI MailEssentials
9. Blocking 99% of spam using exchange manager filter
along with GFI. However, there are a few spammers who
are spoofing our domain and sending emails to our
employees using the employee's email address.

The spam messages gets through since all of my employees
are on the GFI whitelist. How do you block these
spammers from sending you email like this. I have
relaying turned off and have run all the tests to ensure
my server is not set up for relaying.

Here is one of the smtp log entries:

2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 EHLO - +domain.com 250 0
329 19 15 SMTP - - - -
2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 MAIL -
+FROM:<user@domain.com> 250 0 46 33 0 SMTP - - - -
2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 RCPT -
+TO:<user@domain.com> 250 0 34 31 0 SMTP - - - -
2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 DATA - +<02b701c39526
$2c2d2631$b400a8c0@S0030140329> 250 0 128 1598

Thanks for your help.

Scott

Re: Help! Spoofing by Mark

Mark
Thu Oct 23 15:29:35 CDT 2003

I'm using the same SBS, Exchange, GFI setup and have experienced the same
problem. A couple solutions:

1. Add keywords from the spam to GFI for screening e-mail subject and text.

2. Do a whois lookup on the spammer and permanently block their IP
address(es). I find BlackIce server version good for this, though you can do
something similar with SBS itself , I think.




"Scott ***" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0b7e01c3996b$536c1b10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Using SBS2000, running Exchange, using GFI MailEssentials
> 9. Blocking 99% of spam using exchange manager filter
> along with GFI. However, there are a few spammers who
> are spoofing our domain and sending emails to our
> employees using the employee's email address.
>
> The spam messages gets through since all of my employees
> are on the GFI whitelist. How do you block these
> spammers from sending you email like this. I have
> relaying turned off and have run all the tests to ensure
> my server is not set up for relaying.
>
> Here is one of the smtp log entries:
>
> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 EHLO - +domain.com 250 0
> 329 19 15 SMTP - - - -
> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 MAIL -
> +FROM:<user@domain.com> 250 0 46 33 0 SMTP - - - -
> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 RCPT -
> +TO:<user@domain.com> 250 0 34 31 0 SMTP - - - -
> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 DATA - +<02b701c39526
> $2c2d2631$b400a8c0@S0030140329> 250 0 128 1598
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Scott



Re: Help! Spoofing by Scott

Scott
Fri Oct 24 08:38:06 CDT 2003

Can't do #1 since all of my users are on the whitelist.
GFI won't touch anything that is sent from one of my
users (even if it is spoofed).

As for #2, I have done this but it is so time consuming
since most spammers have a ton of ip addresses to choose
from. Some I have been able to block individually or by
IP range. I just wish I could stop them from getting to
my email server another way.

Anyway, thanks for the message.

>-----Original Message-----
>I'm using the same SBS, Exchange, GFI setup and have
experienced the same
>problem. A couple solutions:
>
>1. Add keywords from the spam to GFI for screening e-
mail subject and text.
>
>2. Do a whois lookup on the spammer and permanently
block their IP
>address(es). I find BlackIce server version good for
this, though you can do
>something similar with SBS itself , I think.
>
>
>
>
>"Scott ***" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
in message
>news:0b7e01c3996b$536c1b10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> Using SBS2000, running Exchange, using GFI
MailEssentials
>> 9. Blocking 99% of spam using exchange manager filter
>> along with GFI. However, there are a few spammers who
>> are spoofing our domain and sending emails to our
>> employees using the employee's email address.
>>
>> The spam messages gets through since all of my
employees
>> are on the GFI whitelist. How do you block these
>> spammers from sending you email like this. I have
>> relaying turned off and have run all the tests to
ensure
>> my server is not set up for relaying.
>>
>> Here is one of the smtp log entries:
>>
>> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
>> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 EHLO - +domain.com 250
0
>> 329 19 15 SMTP - - - -
>> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
>> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 MAIL -
>> +FROM:<user@domain.com> 250 0 46 33 0 SMTP - - - -
>> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
>> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 RCPT -
>> +TO:<user@domain.com> 250 0 34 31 0 SMTP - - - -
>> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
>> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 DATA - +<02b701c39526
>> $2c2d2631$b400a8c0@S0030140329> 250 0 128 1598
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Scott
>
>
>.
>

Re: Help! Spoofing by Karl

Karl
Sat Oct 25 18:46:46 CDT 2003

Set Exchange to do a reverse DNS lookup on the calling IP address. Reverse
lookup will fail because the calling IP address will not match the MX record
of your domain. Exchange will then refuse the connection and SPAM from this
sender won't get in.

I have set up my customers in this fashion and it is very effective. Beware
that legitimate mail can sometimes be blocked because the postmaster doesn't
set up their mail system correctly. It is amazing how many major corps that
you would think could afford to know better set up their mail wrong! Usually
an email to them gets it corrected.



"Scott" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0aa801c39a34$0e48e120$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> Can't do #1 since all of my users are on the whitelist.
> GFI won't touch anything that is sent from one of my
> users (even if it is spoofed).
>
> As for #2, I have done this but it is so time consuming
> since most spammers have a ton of ip addresses to choose
> from. Some I have been able to block individually or by
> IP range. I just wish I could stop them from getting to
> my email server another way.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the message.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I'm using the same SBS, Exchange, GFI setup and have
> experienced the same
> >problem. A couple solutions:
> >
> >1. Add keywords from the spam to GFI for screening e-
> mail subject and text.
> >
> >2. Do a whois lookup on the spammer and permanently
> block their IP
> >address(es). I find BlackIce server version good for
> this, though you can do
> >something similar with SBS itself , I think.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Scott ***" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> in message
> >news:0b7e01c3996b$536c1b10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Using SBS2000, running Exchange, using GFI
> MailEssentials
> >> 9. Blocking 99% of spam using exchange manager filter
> >> along with GFI. However, there are a few spammers who
> >> are spoofing our domain and sending emails to our
> >> employees using the employee's email address.
> >>
> >> The spam messages gets through since all of my
> employees
> >> are on the GFI whitelist. How do you block these
> >> spammers from sending you email like this. I have
> >> relaying turned off and have run all the tests to
> ensure
> >> my server is not set up for relaying.
> >>
> >> Here is one of the smtp log entries:
> >>
> >> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
> >> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 EHLO - +domain.com 250
> 0
> >> 329 19 15 SMTP - - - -
> >> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
> >> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 MAIL -
> >> +FROM:<user@domain.com> 250 0 46 33 0 SMTP - - - -
> >> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
> >> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 RCPT -
> >> +TO:<user@domain.com> 250 0 34 31 0 SMTP - - - -
> >> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
> >> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 DATA - +<02b701c39526
> >> $2c2d2631$b400a8c0@S0030140329> 250 0 128 1598
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >
> >
> >.
> >



Re: Help! Spoofing by Chad

Chad
Sat Oct 25 23:13:21 CDT 2003

Hi Karl -

Are you using a 3rd party app to drop the messages? Last time I checked,
Exchange2k does not refuse messages that fail a reverse DNS lookup. Thanks!

--
Chad A Gross [SBS-MVP]

SBS ROCKS!!!


Karl Middleton wrote:
> Set Exchange to do a reverse DNS lookup on the calling IP address.
> Reverse lookup will fail because the calling IP address will not
> match the MX record of your domain. Exchange will then refuse the
> connection and SPAM from this sender won't get in.
>
> I have set up my customers in this fashion and it is very effective.
> Beware that legitimate mail can sometimes be blocked because the
> postmaster doesn't set up their mail system correctly. It is amazing
> how many major corps that you would think could afford to know better
> set up their mail wrong! Usually an email to them gets it corrected.
>
>
>
> "Scott" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0aa801c39a34$0e48e120$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>> Can't do #1 since all of my users are on the whitelist.
>> GFI won't touch anything that is sent from one of my
>> users (even if it is spoofed).
>>
>> As for #2, I have done this but it is so time consuming
>> since most spammers have a ton of ip addresses to choose
>> from. Some I have been able to block individually or by
>> IP range. I just wish I could stop them from getting to
>> my email server another way.
>>
>> Anyway, thanks for the message.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> I'm using the same SBS, Exchange, GFI setup and have
>> experienced the same
>>> problem. A couple solutions:
>>>
>>> 1. Add keywords from the spam to GFI for screening e-
>> mail subject and text.
>>>
>>> 2. Do a whois lookup on the spammer and permanently
>> block their IP
>>> address(es). I find BlackIce server version good for
>> this, though you can do
>>> something similar with SBS itself , I think.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Scott ***" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> in message
>>> news:0b7e01c3996b$536c1b10$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>>>> Using SBS2000, running Exchange, using GFI
>> MailEssentials
>>>> 9. Blocking 99% of spam using exchange manager filter
>>>> along with GFI. However, there are a few spammers who
>>>> are spoofing our domain and sending emails to our
>>>> employees using the employee's email address.
>>>>
>>>> The spam messages gets through since all of my
>> employees
>>>> are on the GFI whitelist. How do you block these
>>>> spammers from sending you email like this. I have
>>>> relaying turned off and have run all the tests to
>> ensure
>>>> my server is not set up for relaying.
>>>>
>>>> Here is one of the smtp log entries:
>>>>
>>>> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
>>>> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 EHLO - +domain.com 250
>> 0
>>>> 329 19 15 SMTP - - - -
>>>> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
>>>> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 MAIL -
>>>> +FROM:<user@domain.com> 250 0 46 33 0 SMTP - - - -
>>>> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
>>>> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 RCPT -
>>>> +TO:<user@domain.com> 250 0 34 31 0 SMTP - - - -
>>>> 2003-10-18 03:10:37 66.24.190.227 domain.com SMTPSVC1
>>>> MYEMAILSERVERNAME 192.168.1.2 0 DATA - +<02b701c39526
>>>> $2c2d2631$b400a8c0@S0030140329> 250 0 128 1598
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>
>>>
>>> .