I have an issue with a server running SBS2003 std
edition, and wonder if anyone has any constructive advice:
The server is in use and developed a physical problem with
hard drive number 1, (a 3 partitioned system mirror drive)
I replaced this drive and attempted to re-build the mirror
from the default operating system drive number 0, it re-
built 2 out of 3, but failed to mirror the actual
operating system partition. Further investigation showed
the existing drive number 0, to contain a bad block,
presumably preventing the re-sync. The most recent and now
only complete system backup also failed, rendering it
useless, which is what alerted me to the condition.
Can anyone see a way for me to now replace the existing
drive 0 and restore the system back to a fault tolerant
condition without having to resort to a complete operating
system re-install.

Re: SBS 2003 - Fault Tolerance by Jeff

Jeff
Fri May 21 09:27:47 CDT 2004

I would replace the drive with a new drive.

Boot to the other partion and then mirror the drives using the appropriate
utility for your hardware or software raid.

Depending on whther or not you set this up in advance you may have to edit
your boot.ini.

Regards,
Jeff Loucks
Available Technology ®
Solutions For Professionals ®
www.availabletechnology.com



"Chris" <chris@melton.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fa1701c43e55$a224f5d0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> I have an issue with a server running SBS2003 std
> edition, and wonder if anyone has any constructive advice:
> The server is in use and developed a physical problem with
> hard drive number 1, (a 3 partitioned system mirror drive)
> I replaced this drive and attempted to re-build the mirror
> from the default operating system drive number 0, it re-
> built 2 out of 3, but failed to mirror the actual
> operating system partition. Further investigation showed
> the existing drive number 0, to contain a bad block,
> presumably preventing the re-sync. The most recent and now
> only complete system backup also failed, rendering it
> useless, which is what alerted me to the condition.
> Can anyone see a way for me to now replace the existing
> drive 0 and restore the system back to a fault tolerant
> condition without having to resort to a complete operating
> system re-install.
>



Re: SBS 2003 - Fault Tolerance by Chris

Chris
Sat May 22 03:19:14 CDT 2004

Thanks for the reply Jeff,
There is a problem with doing as you suggest, in that=20
although the drive is running and showing as healthy on=20
all 3 partitions, when I try to mirror it to the new drive=20
I installed to replace the defunct original mirror drive,=20
it only synchronises 2 of the 3 partitions. The Partition=20
it will not mirror is the operating system, thus I have=20
only 1 drive running at the moment which despite showing=20
healthy, reports a bad block which must be preventing a=20
successful mirror. It's a chance in a million that both=20
these drives need replacing at virtually the same time,=20
which gives me the dilemma.
I'd be grateful for any more suggestions ~ thanks again
>-----Original Message-----
>I would replace the drive with a new drive.
>
>Boot to the other partion and then mirror the drives=20
using the appropriate
>utility for your hardware or software raid.
>
>Depending on whther or not you set this up in advance you=20
may have to edit
>your boot.ini.
>
>Regards,
>Jeff Loucks
> Available Technology =AE
> Solutions For Professionals =AE
> www.availabletechnology.com
>
>
>
>"Chris" <chris@melton.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:fa1701c43e55$a224f5d0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>> I have an issue with a server running SBS2003 std
>> edition, and wonder if anyone has any constructive=20
advice:
>> The server is in use and developed a physical problem=20
with
>> hard drive number 1, (a 3 partitioned system mirror=20
drive)
>> I replaced this drive and attempted to re-build the=20
mirror
>> from the default operating system drive number 0, it re-
>> built 2 out of 3, but failed to mirror the actual
>> operating system partition. Further investigation showed
>> the existing drive number 0, to contain a bad block,
>> presumably preventing the re-sync. The most recent and=20
now
>> only complete system backup also failed, rendering it
>> useless, which is what alerted me to the condition.
>> Can anyone see a way for me to now replace the existing
>> drive 0 and restore the system back to a fault tolerant
>> condition without having to resort to a complete=20
operating
>> system re-install.
>>
>
>
>.
>

Re: SBS 2003 - Fault Tolerance by Jeff

Jeff
Sat May 22 11:16:49 CDT 2004

Chris,

One thing you might try is deleting the mirrors of one of the other
partitions. Then just mirror the system drive. I have had problems mirroring
drives when I use the entire drive. In others words, you cannot use every MB
on the drive.

So here is the procedure I would follow: *** Read this through before you
start ***
1) Break the mirror of one partion (I will call this the Sacrifice Drive).
2) Delete one of the two replicas(on the drive that you want to add for the
system mirror) so the partition is gone and the space is available. This
will make the space available for the system partitionyou should be able to
mirror.
3) Mirror the system partion.

To restore the mirror of the Scarifice Drive:

1) After that system mirror is complete make a partition in the remaining
empty space. Do not use the entire remaining space on the drive (leave at 50
MB or so). (I will call this drive the New Drive)
2) Copy the data over to the New Drive from the left over broken mirror of
the Sacrifice Drive in the system mirroring procedure above.
3) Once the data is copied over, verify it against the original.
4) Deleting the remaing partition of the Sacrifce Drive and make the space
available.
5) Rebuild the mirror of the New Drive.

Regards,
Jeff Loucks
Available Technology ®
Solutions For Professionals ®
www.availabletechnology.com


"Chris" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1083301c43fd5$7800d180$a101280a@phx.gbl...
Thanks for the reply Jeff,
There is a problem with doing as you suggest, in that
although the drive is running and showing as healthy on
all 3 partitions, when I try to mirror it to the new drive
I installed to replace the defunct original mirror drive,
it only synchronises 2 of the 3 partitions. The Partition
it will not mirror is the operating system, thus I have
only 1 drive running at the moment which despite showing
healthy, reports a bad block which must be preventing a
successful mirror. It's a chance in a million that both
these drives need replacing at virtually the same time,
which gives me the dilemma.
I'd be grateful for any more suggestions ~ thanks again
>-----Original Message-----
>I would replace the drive with a new drive.
>
>Boot to the other partion and then mirror the drives
using the appropriate
>utility for your hardware or software raid.
>
>Depending on whther or not you set this up in advance you
may have to edit
>your boot.ini.
>
>Regards,
>Jeff Loucks
> Available Technology ®
> Solutions For Professionals ®
> www.availabletechnology.com
>
>
>
>"Chris" <chris@melton.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:fa1701c43e55$a224f5d0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>> I have an issue with a server running SBS2003 std
>> edition, and wonder if anyone has any constructive
advice:
>> The server is in use and developed a physical problem
with
>> hard drive number 1, (a 3 partitioned system mirror
drive)
>> I replaced this drive and attempted to re-build the
mirror
>> from the default operating system drive number 0, it re-
>> built 2 out of 3, but failed to mirror the actual
>> operating system partition. Further investigation showed
>> the existing drive number 0, to contain a bad block,
>> presumably preventing the re-sync. The most recent and
now
>> only complete system backup also failed, rendering it
>> useless, which is what alerted me to the condition.
>> Can anyone see a way for me to now replace the existing
>> drive 0 and restore the system back to a fault tolerant
>> condition without having to resort to a complete
operating
>> system re-install.
>>
>
>
>.
>



Re: SBS 2003 - Fault Tolerance by Chris

Chris
Sat May 22 12:03:38 CDT 2004

Thanks Jeff, I will try that, but it will be next week as=20
the company closes for the weekend ~ watch this space .. I=20
will let you know the outcome=20
>-----Original Message-----
>Chris,
>
>One thing you might try is deleting the mirrors of one of=20
the other
>partitions. Then just mirror the system drive. I have had=20
problems mirroring
>drives when I use the entire drive. In others words, you=20
cannot use every MB
>on the drive.
>
>So here is the procedure I would follow: *** Read this=20
through before you
>start ***
>1) Break the mirror of one partion (I will call this the=20
Sacrifice Drive).
>2) Delete one of the two replicas(on the drive that you=20
want to add for the
>system mirror) so the partition is gone and the space is=20
available. This
>will make the space available for the system partitionyou=20
should be able to
>mirror.
>3) Mirror the system partion.
>
>To restore the mirror of the Scarifice Drive:
>
>1) After that system mirror is complete make a partition=20
in the remaining
>empty space. Do not use the entire remaining space on the=20
drive (leave at 50
>MB or so). (I will call this drive the New Drive)
>2) Copy the data over to the New Drive from the left over=20
broken mirror of
>the Sacrifice Drive in the system mirroring procedure=20
above.
>3) Once the data is copied over, verify it against the=20
original.
>4) Deleting the remaing partition of the Sacrifce Drive=20
and make the space
>available.
>5) Rebuild the mirror of the New Drive.
>
>Regards,
>Jeff Loucks
> Available Technology =AE
> Solutions For Professionals =AE
> www.availabletechnology.com
>
>
>"Chris" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in=20
message
>news:1083301c43fd5$7800d180$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>Thanks for the reply Jeff,
>There is a problem with doing as you suggest, in that
>although the drive is running and showing as healthy on
>all 3 partitions, when I try to mirror it to the new drive
>I installed to replace the defunct original mirror drive,
>it only synchronises 2 of the 3 partitions. The Partition
>it will not mirror is the operating system, thus I have
>only 1 drive running at the moment which despite showing
>healthy, reports a bad block which must be preventing a
>successful mirror. It's a chance in a million that both
>these drives need replacing at virtually the same time,
>which gives me the dilemma.
>I'd be grateful for any more suggestions ~ thanks again
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I would replace the drive with a new drive.
>>
>>Boot to the other partion and then mirror the drives
>using the appropriate
>>utility for your hardware or software raid.
>>
>>Depending on whther or not you set this up in advance you
>may have to edit
>>your boot.ini.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Jeff Loucks
>> Available Technology =AE
>> Solutions For Professionals =AE
>> www.availabletechnology.com
>>
>>
>>
>>"Chris" <chris@melton.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:fa1701c43e55$a224f5d0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>> I have an issue with a server running SBS2003 std
>>> edition, and wonder if anyone has any constructive
>advice:
>>> The server is in use and developed a physical problem
>with
>>> hard drive number 1, (a 3 partitioned system mirror
>drive)
>>> I replaced this drive and attempted to re-build the
>mirror
>>> from the default operating system drive number 0, it=20
re-
>>> built 2 out of 3, but failed to mirror the actual
>>> operating system partition. Further investigation=20
showed
>>> the existing drive number 0, to contain a bad block,
>>> presumably preventing the re-sync. The most recent and
>now
>>> only complete system backup also failed, rendering it
>>> useless, which is what alerted me to the condition.
>>> Can anyone see a way for me to now replace the existing
>>> drive 0 and restore the system back to a fault tolerant
>>> condition without having to resort to a complete
>operating
>>> system re-install.
>>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>
>
>.
>