Recently we had a problem at a customer's site where 12 of 16 desktop PC's
were failing.
These are Dell Desktop PC's.
The failure occured every 5 days, like clockwork.

When the failure occured the event viewer was filled with:
"Event ID: 2019
Description: The server was unable to allocate from the system nonpaged pool
because the pool was empty"

Note that 4 of the customer's PC's did not develop this problem.

Task Manager, Performance tab, showed that the "non-paged" Kernel memory was
slowly but steadily being used up.
This resulted in a non-functioning PC after 5 days.

Researching the event on the internet led to:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;177415
"How to Use Memory Pool Monitor (Poolmon.exe) to Troubleshoot Kernel Mode
Memory Leaks"

The use of poolmon indicated a problem with a "tagged" driver, where the tag
was "Smax".

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;298102
"How to Find Pool Tags That Are Used By Third-Party Drivers"

Poolmon requires the user to watch the display for hours.
Several high usage "tags" were noticed.
Several of these tags can not be found using the above method. Presumably
these are Microsoft drivers, and therefore need not be found because they
could never be a problem. Hah.

The driver found was:
c:\winnt\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys
driver name: smwdm.sys
file version: 5.12.1.3508
modified: may 28 2003

This driver is used by the "SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio" device.
The driver is authored by Analog Devices.

The remaining 4 not-failing PC's had a different driver:
driver name: smwdm.sys
file version: 5.12.1.3538
modified: dec 20 2002

Note that the revision number differs in only one digit.

We used device manager to disable the SoundMax Integrated Audio.
Task Manager, Processes tab, showed that the Kernel Memory Nonpaged usage
growth stopped immediately.

Trying to do the right thing, we went searching for the updated driver.

Since these were Dell PC's, we went to the Dell driver download site.
At the Dell site, the SoundMax is also named "Analog Devices AD1885
Integrated Audio" .
Unfortunately Dell only provided the failing driver version, and not the
newer version.
Yes, the 4 non-failing PC's were Dell also.
Dell does not keep the drivers download section up to date.

We went to the Analog Devices site.
Unfortunately, Analog Devices does not provide drivers for download, and
instead refers users to the PC Manufacturer or Mainboard manufacturer.

Since Dell was not helpful, we looked at intel, who manufactures the Dell
mainboards.
Intel provides many drivers for many motherboards, and many drivers for
"Analog Devices AD1885 Integrated Audio".
But these drivers appear to be Mainboard specific.
We did not have the option of traveling to the customer's site, and
dis-assembling each PC to determine the Intel Mainboard identification.

An updated driver for these PC's has not yet been found.
But we have at least solved the main problem. The loss of sound capability
can be handled.

This problem has cost us a considerable amount of time and trouble.
The result of the problem is a mysteriously dead PC.
Since Dell, Microsoft, Analog Devices, and Intel were all involved, it
should have been much easier to locate and repair.

I post this here in the hopes that others may be spared the time and
trouble.

Re: Event ID: 2019 nonpaged pool empty by Gizmo

Gizmo
Sat Sep 27 16:17:28 CDT 2003

Hi Richard, thanks for the info...

Just a thought I dont know if you are aware of this site www.eventid.net ,
searching eventid 2019 does point to your solutions but I don't know if it
would have helped you narrow it down to the soundcard file, but another good
resource for you though..


"Richard S Broad" <rsbroad@nospamworldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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>
> Recently we had a problem at a customer's site where 12 of 16 desktop PC's
> were failing.
> These are Dell Desktop PC's.
> The failure occured every 5 days, like clockwork.
>
> When the failure occured the event viewer was filled with:
> "Event ID: 2019
> Description: The server was unable to allocate from the system nonpaged
pool
> because the pool was empty"
>
> Note that 4 of the customer's PC's did not develop this problem.
>
> Task Manager, Performance tab, showed that the "non-paged" Kernel memory
was
> slowly but steadily being used up.
> This resulted in a non-functioning PC after 5 days.
>
> Researching the event on the internet led to:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;177415
> "How to Use Memory Pool Monitor (Poolmon.exe) to Troubleshoot Kernel Mode
> Memory Leaks"
>
> The use of poolmon indicated a problem with a "tagged" driver, where the
tag
> was "Smax".
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;298102
> "How to Find Pool Tags That Are Used By Third-Party Drivers"
>
> Poolmon requires the user to watch the display for hours.
> Several high usage "tags" were noticed.
> Several of these tags can not be found using the above method. Presumably
> these are Microsoft drivers, and therefore need not be found because they
> could never be a problem. Hah.
>
> The driver found was:
> c:\winnt\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys
> driver name: smwdm.sys
> file version: 5.12.1.3508
> modified: may 28 2003
>
> This driver is used by the "SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio" device.
> The driver is authored by Analog Devices.
>
> The remaining 4 not-failing PC's had a different driver:
> driver name: smwdm.sys
> file version: 5.12.1.3538
> modified: dec 20 2002
>
> Note that the revision number differs in only one digit.
>
> We used device manager to disable the SoundMax Integrated Audio.
> Task Manager, Processes tab, showed that the Kernel Memory Nonpaged usage
> growth stopped immediately.
>
> Trying to do the right thing, we went searching for the updated driver.
>
> Since these were Dell PC's, we went to the Dell driver download site.
> At the Dell site, the SoundMax is also named "Analog Devices AD1885
> Integrated Audio" .
> Unfortunately Dell only provided the failing driver version, and not the
> newer version.
> Yes, the 4 non-failing PC's were Dell also.
> Dell does not keep the drivers download section up to date.
>
> We went to the Analog Devices site.
> Unfortunately, Analog Devices does not provide drivers for download, and
> instead refers users to the PC Manufacturer or Mainboard manufacturer.
>
> Since Dell was not helpful, we looked at intel, who manufactures the Dell
> mainboards.
> Intel provides many drivers for many motherboards, and many drivers for
> "Analog Devices AD1885 Integrated Audio".
> But these drivers appear to be Mainboard specific.
> We did not have the option of traveling to the customer's site, and
> dis-assembling each PC to determine the Intel Mainboard identification.
>
> An updated driver for these PC's has not yet been found.
> But we have at least solved the main problem. The loss of sound capability
> can be handled.
>
> This problem has cost us a considerable amount of time and trouble.
> The result of the problem is a mysteriously dead PC.
> Since Dell, Microsoft, Analog Devices, and Intel were all involved, it
> should have been much easier to locate and repair.
>
> I post this here in the hopes that others may be spared the time and
> trouble.
>
>
>
>



Re: Event ID: 2019 nonpaged pool empty by Henry

Henry
Sat Sep 27 18:40:41 CDT 2003

Thanks Richard. Great Investigative work, and useful links to the KB.

I'd say that most wouldn't come across this problem as W/Ss wouldn't
be left up 24x7. Let's hope the OEM gets a new driver out to you soon.

Forewarned is forearmed, forsooth.

Henry Craven
-------------------
31 Oct = 25 Dec

"Richard S Broad" <rsbroad@nospamworldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:%23vDkPdShDHA.620@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>
> Recently we had a problem at a customer's site where 12 of 16 desktop PC's
> were failing.
> These are Dell Desktop PC's.
> The failure occured every 5 days, like clockwork.
>
> When the failure occured the event viewer was filled with:
> "Event ID: 2019
> Description: The server was unable to allocate from the system nonpaged
pool
> because the pool was empty"
>
> Note that 4 of the customer's PC's did not develop this problem.
>
> Task Manager, Performance tab, showed that the "non-paged" Kernel memory
was
> slowly but steadily being used up.
> This resulted in a non-functioning PC after 5 days.
>
> Researching the event on the internet led to:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;177415
> "How to Use Memory Pool Monitor (Poolmon.exe) to Troubleshoot Kernel Mode
> Memory Leaks"
>
> The use of poolmon indicated a problem with a "tagged" driver, where the
tag
> was "Smax".
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;298102
> "How to Find Pool Tags That Are Used By Third-Party Drivers"
>
> Poolmon requires the user to watch the display for hours.
> Several high usage "tags" were noticed.
> Several of these tags can not be found using the above method. Presumably
> these are Microsoft drivers, and therefore need not be found because they
> could never be a problem. Hah.
>
> The driver found was:
> c:\winnt\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys
> driver name: smwdm.sys
> file version: 5.12.1.3508
> modified: may 28 2003
>
> This driver is used by the "SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio" device.
> The driver is authored by Analog Devices.
>
> The remaining 4 not-failing PC's had a different driver:
> driver name: smwdm.sys
> file version: 5.12.1.3538
> modified: dec 20 2002
>
> Note that the revision number differs in only one digit.
>
> We used device manager to disable the SoundMax Integrated Audio.
> Task Manager, Processes tab, showed that the Kernel Memory Nonpaged usage
> growth stopped immediately.
>
> Trying to do the right thing, we went searching for the updated driver.
>
> Since these were Dell PC's, we went to the Dell driver download site.
> At the Dell site, the SoundMax is also named "Analog Devices AD1885
> Integrated Audio" .
> Unfortunately Dell only provided the failing driver version, and not the
> newer version.
> Yes, the 4 non-failing PC's were Dell also.
> Dell does not keep the drivers download section up to date.
>
> We went to the Analog Devices site.
> Unfortunately, Analog Devices does not provide drivers for download, and
> instead refers users to the PC Manufacturer or Mainboard manufacturer.
>
> Since Dell was not helpful, we looked at intel, who manufactures the Dell
> mainboards.
> Intel provides many drivers for many motherboards, and many drivers for
> "Analog Devices AD1885 Integrated Audio".
> But these drivers appear to be Mainboard specific.
> We did not have the option of traveling to the customer's site, and
> dis-assembling each PC to determine the Intel Mainboard identification.
>
> An updated driver for these PC's has not yet been found.
> But we have at least solved the main problem. The loss of sound capability
> can be handled.
>
> This problem has cost us a considerable amount of time and trouble.
> The result of the problem is a mysteriously dead PC.
> Since Dell, Microsoft, Analog Devices, and Intel were all involved, it
> should have been much easier to locate and repair.
>
> I post this here in the hopes that others may be spared the time and
> trouble.





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Re: Event ID: 2019 nonpaged pool empty by Merv

Merv
Sat Sep 27 19:39:08 CDT 2003

Did this new sound driver come by way of Windows Update? If so, this is
another reason I don't recommend setting up workstations to blindly download
and install patches from Windows Update. As far as device drivers are
concerned, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

--
Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
===================================
"Richard S Broad" <rsbroad@nospamworldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:#vDkPdShDHA.620@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>
> Recently we had a problem at a customer's site where 12 of 16 desktop PC's
> were failing.
> These are Dell Desktop PC's.
> The failure occured every 5 days, like clockwork.
>
> When the failure occured the event viewer was filled with:
> "Event ID: 2019
> Description: The server was unable to allocate from the system nonpaged
pool
> because the pool was empty"
>
> Note that 4 of the customer's PC's did not develop this problem.
>
> Task Manager, Performance tab, showed that the "non-paged" Kernel memory
was
> slowly but steadily being used up.
> This resulted in a non-functioning PC after 5 days.
>
> Researching the event on the internet led to:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;177415
> "How to Use Memory Pool Monitor (Poolmon.exe) to Troubleshoot Kernel Mode
> Memory Leaks"
>
> The use of poolmon indicated a problem with a "tagged" driver, where the
tag
> was "Smax".
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;298102
> "How to Find Pool Tags That Are Used By Third-Party Drivers"
>
> Poolmon requires the user to watch the display for hours.
> Several high usage "tags" were noticed.
> Several of these tags can not be found using the above method. Presumably
> these are Microsoft drivers, and therefore need not be found because they
> could never be a problem. Hah.
>
> The driver found was:
> c:\winnt\system32\drivers\smwdm.sys
> driver name: smwdm.sys
> file version: 5.12.1.3508
> modified: may 28 2003
>
> This driver is used by the "SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio" device.
> The driver is authored by Analog Devices.
>
> The remaining 4 not-failing PC's had a different driver:
> driver name: smwdm.sys
> file version: 5.12.1.3538
> modified: dec 20 2002
>
> Note that the revision number differs in only one digit.
>
> We used device manager to disable the SoundMax Integrated Audio.
> Task Manager, Processes tab, showed that the Kernel Memory Nonpaged usage
> growth stopped immediately.
>
> Trying to do the right thing, we went searching for the updated driver.
>
> Since these were Dell PC's, we went to the Dell driver download site.
> At the Dell site, the SoundMax is also named "Analog Devices AD1885
> Integrated Audio" .
> Unfortunately Dell only provided the failing driver version, and not the
> newer version.
> Yes, the 4 non-failing PC's were Dell also.
> Dell does not keep the drivers download section up to date.
>
> We went to the Analog Devices site.
> Unfortunately, Analog Devices does not provide drivers for download, and
> instead refers users to the PC Manufacturer or Mainboard manufacturer.
>
> Since Dell was not helpful, we looked at intel, who manufactures the Dell
> mainboards.
> Intel provides many drivers for many motherboards, and many drivers for
> "Analog Devices AD1885 Integrated Audio".
> But these drivers appear to be Mainboard specific.
> We did not have the option of traveling to the customer's site, and
> dis-assembling each PC to determine the Intel Mainboard identification.
>
> An updated driver for these PC's has not yet been found.
> But we have at least solved the main problem. The loss of sound capability
> can be handled.
>
> This problem has cost us a considerable amount of time and trouble.
> The result of the problem is a mysteriously dead PC.
> Since Dell, Microsoft, Analog Devices, and Intel were all involved, it
> should have been much easier to locate and repair.
>
> I post this here in the hopes that others may be spared the time and
> trouble.
>
>
>
>



Re: Event ID: 2019 nonpaged pool empty by jimbehning

jimbehning
Sun Sep 28 08:18:47 CDT 2003

I do a google search when I have issues like that. I end up at
www.driversguide.com or some similar site. They have folks posting all
kinds of drivers and links that get you out of trouble. The OEM folks
sometimes do not have solutions but answers can be found at
www.driversguide.com

"Merv Porter" <mwport@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Did this new sound driver come by way of Windows Update? If so, this is
>another reason I don't recommend setting up workstations to blindly download
>and install patches from Windows Update. As far as device drivers are
>concerned, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

Jim B. SBS MVP