I am a SBS Newbie and am in the process of setting up a
SBS2K server & a Win2000 TS in Application Mode.

I have a number of questions re. the setup

1) I want to move the default company & user shared
folders from the C-Drive to another drive. I have read the
MS article 329640 on moving the folders but some help is
required. The C-Drive is 12 GB, using 4 already, D-Drive
is 34 GB and has Exchange Server installed on it and an E-
Drive of 22 GB. Which would be the better drive to move
the shared folders to or not move them at all ?

2) If I do move the folders, I assume the User setup
wizard will know the folders have moved and to where and
when using the magic disk the folders that appear on the
users desktop will be mapped correctly ?

3) When I installed SBS, I used a basic password for the
Administrator, but I have not installed any backup, AV
software yet and from the postings it seems I should
change the Admin password before I start doing any major
software installations / continue with the SBS2k setup.
Correct ?

4) I am also going to install Office XP on the TS in
Applic Server Mode. Do I install Office on the C-Drive or
the D-Drive ? Do I store the bespoke Access Database we
use, on the D-Drive of the TS or on the SBS2k server ? Do
I install any Accounting applications that we use on the
TS as well or on the SBS2k server ?

5) Is it better for users to use Outlook thru TS ? or use
Outlook from SBS2k server ? I have been told that using
the internet thru TS takes quite a lot of bandwidth so
best to use IE from the local desktop ? Correct ?

6) If I want to personalise the TS screen for each user,
how do I save the settings created for user or is it
better to have a default TS session screen ?

7) I have not tried it yet, but when I log onto a TS
session am I able to view my specific users folder
shortcut on the desktop or do I use my network places to
find my folder on the SBS2k server ?


Any assistance greatly appreciated.

Regards
Antony

Re: Default Shared folders, Admin Password, Outlook thru TS by Jim

Jim
Mon Dec 22 08:57:28 CST 2003

You know SBS 2003 is available. I hate installing old software when
the new stuff is out and works well.

Move folders to E: if you like.

You install no software on the SBS except what came on the SBS cds.
Well not really true. You do not install Outlook on your server. Any
client applications that a user will really use should be installed on
the application server. I have Office, Outlook, SQL client apps
installed on my application servers. The Bespoke client woudl be
installed on the application server but the actual database would be
installed on your SBS. The other things you can install on the server
ar AV and backup software. You just do not need to load any Office
software including Outlook on the SBS.

Your administrator account shoudl have a "secure " password. 8
characters or more with 3 or 4 of the possible keyboard keys used.

I find files on the server by start run \\servername. You can paste
shortcuts to the all users folder on the apps server.

I usually bumble around on setting up apps servers. It takes me about
an hour after the os is done to get it to work properly but I have not
noted all the steps. You have to change a local policy on the apps
server to allow interactive logons for regular users.

"antony.catella@kingleaplants.co.uk"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I am a SBS Newbie and am in the process of setting up a
>SBS2K server & a Win2000 TS in Application Mode.
>
>I have a number of questions re. the setup
>
>1) I want to move the default company & user shared
>folders from the C-Drive to another drive. I have read the
>MS article 329640 on moving the folders but some help is
>required. The C-Drive is 12 GB, using 4 already, D-Drive
>is 34 GB and has Exchange Server installed on it and an E-
>Drive of 22 GB. Which would be the better drive to move
>the shared folders to or not move them at all ?
>
>2) If I do move the folders, I assume the User setup
>wizard will know the folders have moved and to where and
>when using the magic disk the folders that appear on the
>users desktop will be mapped correctly ?
>
>3) When I installed SBS, I used a basic password for the
>Administrator, but I have not installed any backup, AV
>software yet and from the postings it seems I should
>change the Admin password before I start doing any major
>software installations / continue with the SBS2k setup.
>Correct ?
>
>4) I am also going to install Office XP on the TS in
>Applic Server Mode. Do I install Office on the C-Drive or
>the D-Drive ? Do I store the bespoke Access Database we
>use, on the D-Drive of the TS or on the SBS2k server ? Do
>I install any Accounting applications that we use on the
>TS as well or on the SBS2k server ?
>
>5) Is it better for users to use Outlook thru TS ? or use
>Outlook from SBS2k server ? I have been told that using
>the internet thru TS takes quite a lot of bandwidth so
>best to use IE from the local desktop ? Correct ?
>
>6) If I want to personalise the TS screen for each user,
>how do I save the settings created for user or is it
>better to have a default TS session screen ?
>
>7) I have not tried it yet, but when I log onto a TS
>session am I able to view my specific users folder
>shortcut on the desktop or do I use my network places to
>find my folder on the SBS2k server ?
>
>
>Any assistance greatly appreciated.
>
>Regards
>Antony
>
>
>
>

Jim B. SBS MVP
remove the mvp to send email

Re: Default Shared folders, Admin Password, Outlook thru TS by anonymous

anonymous
Mon Dec 22 09:41:25 CST 2003

Unfortunately we have bought SBS2k already.

Should I install Office XP on the D-Drive of Applic
Server ?

Install AV & Backup Software on SBS only ? Correct ?

What is the point of the TSAdmin user, that the MS paper
SBS with TS Applic Server Mode, recommends you create ?
Is the TSAdmin user used to install SBS applics on the TS
server ? Right ? But I would install Outlook when
installing Office XP ?

Bespoke client vs Actual Database ? Do you mean front-end
and back-end of the database ?

By implication it will be better for users to use Outlook
thru TS ? However I have been told that using the internet
thru TS takes quite a lot of bandwidth so best to use IE
from the local desktop ? Just thinking in terms of
hyperlinks that I often receive in e-mails ? Correct ?

Regards
Antony

>-----Original Message-----
>You know SBS 2003 is available. I hate installing old
software when
>the new stuff is out and works well.
>
>Move folders to E: if you like.
>
>You install no software on the SBS except what came on
the SBS cds.
>Well not really true. You do not install Outlook on your
server. Any
>client applications that a user will really use should be
installed on
>the application server. I have Office, Outlook, SQL
client apps
>installed on my application servers. The Bespoke client
woudl be
>installed on the application server but the actual
database would be
>installed on your SBS. The other things you can install
on the server
>ar AV and backup software. You just do not need to load
any Office
>software including Outlook on the SBS.
>
>Your administrator account shoudl have a "secure "
password. 8
>characters or more with 3 or 4 of the possible keyboard
keys used.
>
>I find files on the server by start run \\servername. You
can paste
>shortcuts to the all users folder on the apps server.
>
>I usually bumble around on setting up apps servers. It
takes me about
>an hour after the os is done to get it to work properly
but I have not
>noted all the steps. You have to change a local policy on
the apps
>server to allow interactive logons for regular users.
>
>"antony.catella@kingleaplants.co.uk"
><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>I am a SBS Newbie and am in the process of setting up a
>>SBS2K server & a Win2000 TS in Application Mode.
>>
>>I have a number of questions re. the setup
>>
>>1) I want to move the default company & user shared
>>folders from the C-Drive to another drive. I have read
the
>>MS article 329640 on moving the folders but some help is
>>required. The C-Drive is 12 GB, using 4 already, D-Drive
>>is 34 GB and has Exchange Server installed on it and an
E-
>>Drive of 22 GB. Which would be the better drive to move
>>the shared folders to or not move them at all ?
>>
>>2) If I do move the folders, I assume the User setup
>>wizard will know the folders have moved and to where and
>>when using the magic disk the folders that appear on the
>>users desktop will be mapped correctly ?
>>
>>3) When I installed SBS, I used a basic password for the
>>Administrator, but I have not installed any backup, AV
>>software yet and from the postings it seems I should
>>change the Admin password before I start doing any major
>>software installations / continue with the SBS2k setup.
>>Correct ?
>>
>>4) I am also going to install Office XP on the TS in
>>Applic Server Mode. Do I install Office on the C-Drive
or
>>the D-Drive ? Do I store the bespoke Access Database we
>>use, on the D-Drive of the TS or on the SBS2k server ?
Do
>>I install any Accounting applications that we use on the
>>TS as well or on the SBS2k server ?
>>
>>5) Is it better for users to use Outlook thru TS ? or
use
>>Outlook from SBS2k server ? I have been told that using
>>the internet thru TS takes quite a lot of bandwidth so
>>best to use IE from the local desktop ? Correct ?
>>
>>6) If I want to personalise the TS screen for each user,
>>how do I save the settings created for user or is it
>>better to have a default TS session screen ?
>>
>>7) I have not tried it yet, but when I log onto a TS
>>session am I able to view my specific users folder
>>shortcut on the desktop or do I use my network places to
>>find my folder on the SBS2k server ?
>>
>>
>>Any assistance greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Regards
>>Antony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Jim B. SBS MVP
>remove the mvp to send email
>.
>

Re: Default Shared folders, Admin Password, Outlook thru TS by Jim

Jim
Tue Dec 23 07:15:53 CST 2003

I don't care where I install stuff on the application server. I
created a c: and D: on the application server I loaded last night but
I don't know where I will install office. It does not matter to me and
I do not see any reason to worry.

The AV software and backup software I use is installed on SBS because
it pushes av to the clients. The backup software is on the SBS because
that is the only server I need to backup. I tell users that the only
machine that is backed up the SBS. If they have important files they
need to be placed on the SBS. The application server will get an av
client though.

You can install any application that will work on the application
server including Outlook. You just do not want to install Office
applications on the SBS. You need to be logged into the application
server as some sort of adminstrator to install applications. I have
not paid attention as I log in as me. I have adminstrator rights. I
just do a change user /install from the command prompt and run my
windows updates and Office install. I have had some problems running
Windows Update unless I first do the change user /install switch.

Yes front end/ backend. To me actual database can be flat files like
Access users or having to set up SQL, MySQL, or whatever version of
sql you need to service the sql clients. This gets set up on the
server.

Outlook is not the internet. My servers run Exchange. Outlook is just
a client to see the Exchange database. IE works from a TS session. It
is just not pretty as Server 2000 seems to serve in 256 colors. Server
2003 has more depth but a bit more bandwidth sending that depth.
Hyperlinks are hard to click on if you do not have Outlook open and
access to IE. I do not get many emails with hyperlinks but it has been
an issue at some accounts.

Set up the application server and see how you like it. It takes about
2 hours to set one up including loading client apps. If you don't like
the setup you can spend a few hours reloading.


<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Unfortunately we have bought SBS2k already.
>
>Should I install Office XP on the D-Drive of Applic
>Server ?
>
>Install AV & Backup Software on SBS only ? Correct ?
>
>What is the point of the TSAdmin user, that the MS paper
>SBS with TS Applic Server Mode, recommends you create ?
>Is the TSAdmin user used to install SBS applics on the TS
>server ? Right ? But I would install Outlook when
>installing Office XP ?
>
>Bespoke client vs Actual Database ? Do you mean front-end
>and back-end of the database ?
>
>By implication it will be better for users to use Outlook
>thru TS ? However I have been told that using the internet
>thru TS takes quite a lot of bandwidth so best to use IE
>from the local desktop ? Just thinking in terms of
>hyperlinks that I often receive in e-mails ? Correct ?
>
>Regards
>Antony
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>You know SBS 2003 is available. I hate installing old
>software when
>>the new stuff is out and works well.
>>
>>Move folders to E: if you like.
>>
>>You install no software on the SBS except what came on
>the SBS cds.
>>Well not really true. You do not install Outlook on your
>server. Any
>>client applications that a user will really use should be
>installed on
>>the application server. I have Office, Outlook, SQL
>client apps
>>installed on my application servers. The Bespoke client
>woudl be
>>installed on the application server but the actual
>database would be
>>installed on your SBS. The other things you can install
>on the server
>>ar AV and backup software. You just do not need to load
>any Office
>>software including Outlook on the SBS.
>>
>>Your administrator account shoudl have a "secure "
>password. 8
>>characters or more with 3 or 4 of the possible keyboard
>keys used.
>>
>>I find files on the server by start run \\servername. You
>can paste
>>shortcuts to the all users folder on the apps server.
>>
>>I usually bumble around on setting up apps servers. It
>takes me about
>>an hour after the os is done to get it to work properly
>but I have not
>>noted all the steps. You have to change a local policy on
>the apps
>>server to allow interactive logons for regular users.
>>
>>"antony.catella@kingleaplants.co.uk"
>><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I am a SBS Newbie and am in the process of setting up a
>>>SBS2K server & a Win2000 TS in Application Mode.
>>>
>>>I have a number of questions re. the setup
>>>
>>>1) I want to move the default company & user shared
>>>folders from the C-Drive to another drive. I have read
>the
>>>MS article 329640 on moving the folders but some help is
>>>required. The C-Drive is 12 GB, using 4 already, D-Drive
>>>is 34 GB and has Exchange Server installed on it and an
>E-
>>>Drive of 22 GB. Which would be the better drive to move
>>>the shared folders to or not move them at all ?
>>>
>>>2) If I do move the folders, I assume the User setup
>>>wizard will know the folders have moved and to where and
>>>when using the magic disk the folders that appear on the
>>>users desktop will be mapped correctly ?
>>>
>>>3) When I installed SBS, I used a basic password for the
>>>Administrator, but I have not installed any backup, AV
>>>software yet and from the postings it seems I should
>>>change the Admin password before I start doing any major
>>>software installations / continue with the SBS2k setup.
>>>Correct ?
>>>
>>>4) I am also going to install Office XP on the TS in
>>>Applic Server Mode. Do I install Office on the C-Drive
>or
>>>the D-Drive ? Do I store the bespoke Access Database we
>>>use, on the D-Drive of the TS or on the SBS2k server ?
>Do
>>>I install any Accounting applications that we use on the
>>>TS as well or on the SBS2k server ?
>>>
>>>5) Is it better for users to use Outlook thru TS ? or
>use
>>>Outlook from SBS2k server ? I have been told that using
>>>the internet thru TS takes quite a lot of bandwidth so
>>>best to use IE from the local desktop ? Correct ?
>>>
>>>6) If I want to personalise the TS screen for each user,
>>>how do I save the settings created for user or is it
>>>better to have a default TS session screen ?
>>>
>>>7) I have not tried it yet, but when I log onto a TS
>>>session am I able to view my specific users folder
>>>shortcut on the desktop or do I use my network places to
>>>find my folder on the SBS2k server ?
>>>
>>>
>>>Any assistance greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Antony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Jim B. SBS MVP
>>remove the mvp to send email
>>.
>>

Jim B. SBS MVP
remove the mvp to send email

Re: Default Shared folders, Admin Password, Outlook thru TS by antony

antony
Wed Dec 24 03:17:10 CST 2003

Jim

Thanks very much for the help & hints. Will give it a go
and see what happens!

Regards
Antony

>-----Original Message-----
>I don't care where I install stuff on the application
server. I
>created a c: and D: on the application server I loaded
last night but
>I don't know where I will install office. It does not
matter to me and
>I do not see any reason to worry.
>
>The AV software and backup software I use is installed on
SBS because
>it pushes av to the clients. The backup software is on
the SBS because
>that is the only server I need to backup. I tell users
that the only
>machine that is backed up the SBS. If they have important
files they
>need to be placed on the SBS. The application server will
get an av
>client though.
>
>You can install any application that will work on the
application
>server including Outlook. You just do not want to install
Office
>applications on the SBS. You need to be logged into the
application
>server as some sort of adminstrator to install
applications. I have
>not paid attention as I log in as me. I have adminstrator
rights. I
>just do a change user /install from the command prompt
and run my
>windows updates and Office install. I have had some
problems running
>Windows Update unless I first do the change user /install
switch.
>
>Yes front end/ backend. To me actual database can be flat
files like
>Access users or having to set up SQL, MySQL, or whatever
version of
>sql you need to service the sql clients. This gets set up
on the
>server.
>
>Outlook is not the internet. My servers run Exchange.
Outlook is just
>a client to see the Exchange database. IE works from a TS
session. It
>is just not pretty as Server 2000 seems to serve in 256
colors. Server
>2003 has more depth but a bit more bandwidth sending that
depth.
>Hyperlinks are hard to click on if you do not have
Outlook open and
>access to IE. I do not get many emails with hyperlinks
but it has been
>an issue at some accounts.
>
>Set up the application server and see how you like it. It
takes about
>2 hours to set one up including loading client apps. If
you don't like
>the setup you can spend a few hours reloading.
>
>
><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>Unfortunately we have bought SBS2k already.
>>
>>Should I install Office XP on the D-Drive of Applic
>>Server ?
>>
>>Install AV & Backup Software on SBS only ? Correct ?
>>
>>What is the point of the TSAdmin user, that the MS paper
>>SBS with TS Applic Server Mode, recommends you create ?
>>Is the TSAdmin user used to install SBS applics on the
TS
>>server ? Right ? But I would install Outlook when
>>installing Office XP ?
>>
>>Bespoke client vs Actual Database ? Do you mean front-
end
>>and back-end of the database ?
>>
>>By implication it will be better for users to use
Outlook
>>thru TS ? However I have been told that using the
internet
>>thru TS takes quite a lot of bandwidth so best to use IE
>>from the local desktop ? Just thinking in terms of
>>hyperlinks that I often receive in e-mails ? Correct ?
>>
>>Regards
>>Antony
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>You know SBS 2003 is available. I hate installing old
>>software when
>>>the new stuff is out and works well.
>>>
>>>Move folders to E: if you like.
>>>
>>>You install no software on the SBS except what came on
>>the SBS cds.
>>>Well not really true. You do not install Outlook on
your
>>server. Any
>>>client applications that a user will really use should
be
>>installed on
>>>the application server. I have Office, Outlook, SQL
>>client apps
>>>installed on my application servers. The Bespoke client
>>woudl be
>>>installed on the application server but the actual
>>database would be
>>>installed on your SBS. The other things you can install
>>on the server
>>>ar AV and backup software. You just do not need to load
>>any Office
>>>software including Outlook on the SBS.
>>>
>>>Your administrator account shoudl have a "secure "
>>password. 8
>>>characters or more with 3 or 4 of the possible keyboard
>>keys used.
>>>
>>>I find files on the server by start run \\servername.
You
>>can paste
>>>shortcuts to the all users folder on the apps server.
>>>
>>>I usually bumble around on setting up apps servers. It
>>takes me about
>>>an hour after the os is done to get it to work properly
>>but I have not
>>>noted all the steps. You have to change a local policy
on
>>the apps
>>>server to allow interactive logons for regular users.
>>>
>>>"antony.catella@kingleaplants.co.uk"
>>><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am a SBS Newbie and am in the process of setting up
a
>>>>SBS2K server & a Win2000 TS in Application Mode.
>>>>
>>>>I have a number of questions re. the setup
>>>>
>>>>1) I want to move the default company & user shared
>>>>folders from the C-Drive to another drive. I have read
>>the
>>>>MS article 329640 on moving the folders but some help
is
>>>>required. The C-Drive is 12 GB, using 4 already, D-
Drive
>>>>is 34 GB and has Exchange Server installed on it and
an
>>E-
>>>>Drive of 22 GB. Which would be the better drive to
move
>>>>the shared folders to or not move them at all ?
>>>>
>>>>2) If I do move the folders, I assume the User setup
>>>>wizard will know the folders have moved and to where
and
>>>>when using the magic disk the folders that appear on
the
>>>>users desktop will be mapped correctly ?
>>>>
>>>>3) When I installed SBS, I used a basic password for
the
>>>>Administrator, but I have not installed any backup, AV
>>>>software yet and from the postings it seems I should
>>>>change the Admin password before I start doing any
major
>>>>software installations / continue with the SBS2k
setup.
>>>>Correct ?
>>>>
>>>>4) I am also going to install Office XP on the TS in
>>>>Applic Server Mode. Do I install Office on the C-Drive
>>or
>>>>the D-Drive ? Do I store the bespoke Access Database
we
>>>>use, on the D-Drive of the TS or on the SBS2k server ?
>>Do
>>>>I install any Accounting applications that we use on
the
>>>>TS as well or on the SBS2k server ?
>>>>
>>>>5) Is it better for users to use Outlook thru TS ? or
>>use
>>>>Outlook from SBS2k server ? I have been told that
using
>>>>the internet thru TS takes quite a lot of bandwidth so
>>>>best to use IE from the local desktop ? Correct ?
>>>>
>>>>6) If I want to personalise the TS screen for each
user,
>>>>how do I save the settings created for user or is it
>>>>better to have a default TS session screen ?
>>>>
>>>>7) I have not tried it yet, but when I log onto a TS
>>>>session am I able to view my specific users folder
>>>>shortcut on the desktop or do I use my network places
to
>>>>find my folder on the SBS2k server ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Any assistance greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Antony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Jim B. SBS MVP
>>>remove the mvp to send email
>>>.
>>>
>
>Jim B. SBS MVP
>remove the mvp to send email
>.
>