SBC DSL Configuration Problem

I have SBS 2000 with SP3 applied. I have a computer with two NIC cards, one
internal the other for the internet.

I have SBC DSL which has a dynamic IP address and uses PPOE. Trying to
configure without the use of a router.

First is there a "how to" document for typical configuration? If not I have
a few questions.

1. How do I supply the name and password for the PPOE authentication?
2. With a dynamic IP address, their gateway unknown, their DNS unknown, how
do I set up the NIC?

TIA

--

Mark Butler

Marina
Mon Sep 29 15:45:30 CDT 2003

Better get a router. It will make life much easier for you.

Marina

"Mark Butler" <mredhat@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
news:u1YncnshDHA.2120@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I have SBS 2000 with SP3 applied. I have a computer with two NIC cards,
one
> internal the other for the internet.
>
> I have SBC DSL which has a dynamic IP address and uses PPOE. Trying to
> configure without the use of a router.
>
> First is there a "how to" document for typical configuration? If not I
have
> a few questions.
>
> 1. How do I supply the name and password for the PPOE authentication?
> 2. With a dynamic IP address, their gateway unknown, their DNS unknown,
how
> do I set up the NIC?
>
> TIA
>
> --
>
> Mark Butler
>
>

Julian
Mon Sep 29 16:48:47 CDT 2003

Your ISP still has a gateway and DNS servers so should be able to give you
the settings.

I'd also suggest you get a router on there anyway and look at
smallbizserver.net for configs

Julian

Julian

Mark Butler wrote:
> I have SBS 2000 with SP3 applied. I have a computer with two NIC
> cards, one internal the other for the internet.
>
> I have SBC DSL which has a dynamic IP address and uses PPOE. Trying
> to configure without the use of a router.
>
> First is there a "how to" document for typical configuration? If not
> I have a few questions.
>
> 1. How do I supply the name and password for the PPOE authentication?
> 2. With a dynamic IP address, their gateway unknown, their DNS
> unknown, how do I set up the NIC?
>
> TIA

SuperGumby
Mon Sep 29 17:48:48 CDT 2003

Mark, just to be a nodding head,

get yourself a little inexpensive router that can handle the PPPoE login.
This obviates the need for PPPoE software on the server, which has been
known to cause problems, and additionally gives you a stable controllable IP
space on the external NIC. A caution I'll throw in is not to get a VPN
capable router, you want to terminate VPN's on the SBS, so check the router
handles PPTP/GRE passthrough.

The extra security of an additional NAT layer is a disputable bonus.

"Mark Butler" <mredhat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u1YncnshDHA.2120@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I have SBS 2000 with SP3 applied. I have a computer with two NIC cards,
one
> internal the other for the internet.
>
> I have SBC DSL which has a dynamic IP address and uses PPOE. Trying to
> configure without the use of a router.
>
> First is there a "how to" document for typical configuration? If not I
have
> a few questions.
>
> 1. How do I supply the name and password for the PPOE authentication?
> 2. With a dynamic IP address, their gateway unknown, their DNS unknown,
how
> do I set up the NIC?
>
> TIA
>
> --
>
> Mark Butler
>
>

Susan
Mon Sep 29 19:06:25 CDT 2003

Sweetie get a router. That stupid Yahoo SBC loads up so much gunk it's
unbelievable. Take a laptop, use that to sign up and then put the stuff
in a Linksys.

Mark Butler wrote:
> I have SBS 2000 with SP3 applied. I have a computer with two NIC cards, one
> internal the other for the internet.
>
> I have SBC DSL which has a dynamic IP address and uses PPOE. Trying to
> configure without the use of a router.
>
> First is there a "how to" document for typical configuration? If not I have
> a few questions.
>
> 1. How do I supply the name and password for the PPOE authentication?
> 2. With a dynamic IP address, their gateway unknown, their DNS unknown, how
> do I set up the NIC?
>
> TIA
>
> --
>
> Mark Butler
>
>

--
"Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
to use it properly and effectively."
~Rain Forest Puppy
http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt

Mark
Mon Sep 29 20:34:46 CDT 2003

If I use a router as suggested, what about remote FTP, Terminal Server,
HTTP...

Assuming a LinkSys router.

1. Turn on PPOE and supply the name/password.

2. Let the LinkSys obtain the external (SBC) IP address, associated mask,
Gateway and DNS servers.

3. I assume I would turn off DHCP and configure the external nic IP address
in the 192.168.1.xxx range. Use 255.255.255.0 as the mask and use the
192.168.1.1 as the gateway.

4. Update the routing table to send various ports to the 192.168.1.xxx
address assigned above.

---------------------

With all that said, it seems that it would be better to use SBS to just
supply the PPOE login information. If I go this route, what software or SBS
item do I configure to supply the PPOE login information?

Any suggestions, pro/con would be appreciated.

Mark

"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
wrote in message news:eaQ46buhDHA.4088@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Sweetie get a router. That stupid Yahoo SBC loads up so much gunk it's
> unbelievable. Take a laptop, use that to sign up and then put the stuff
> in a Linksys.
>
> Mark Butler wrote:
> > I have SBS 2000 with SP3 applied. I have a computer with two NIC cards,
one
> > internal the other for the internet.
> >
> > I have SBC DSL which has a dynamic IP address and uses PPOE. Trying to
> > configure without the use of a router.
> >
> > First is there a "how to" document for typical configuration? If not I
have
> > a few questions.
> >
> > 1. How do I supply the name and password for the PPOE authentication?
> > 2. With a dynamic IP address, their gateway unknown, their DNS unknown,
how
> > do I set up the NIC?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > --
> >
> > Mark Butler
> >
> >
>
> --
> "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
> not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
> not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
> patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
> responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
> to use it properly and effectively."
> ~Rain Forest Puppy
> http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
>

Merv
Mon Sep 29 22:25:47 CDT 2003

Network config...
http://www.smallbizserver.net/sbs2000/With_two_network_adapters_a_dynamic_IP_address_ISA_and_a_router.aspx

Router config...
http://www.smallbizserver.net/sbs2000/How_to_setup_your_Router_and_DSL_modem_to_work_with_SBS_2000.aspx

--
Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
===================================

"Mark Butler" <mbutler@marxware.com> wrote in message
news:#$seL3vhDHA.1932@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> If I use a router as suggested, what about remote FTP, Terminal Server,
> HTTP...
>
> Assuming a LinkSys router.
>
> 1. Turn on PPOE and supply the name/password.
>
> 2. Let the LinkSys obtain the external (SBC) IP address, associated mask,
> Gateway and DNS servers.
>
> 3. I assume I would turn off DHCP and configure the external nic IP
address
> in the 192.168.1.xxx range. Use 255.255.255.0 as the mask and use the
> 192.168.1.1 as the gateway.
>
> 4. Update the routing table to send various ports to the 192.168.1.xxx
> address assigned above.
>
> ---------------------
>
> With all that said, it seems that it would be better to use SBS to just
> supply the PPOE login information. If I go this route, what software or
SBS
> item do I configure to supply the PPOE login information?
>
> Any suggestions, pro/con would be appreciated.
>
> Mark
>
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> wrote in message news:eaQ46buhDHA.4088@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Sweetie get a router. That stupid Yahoo SBC loads up so much gunk it's
> > unbelievable. Take a laptop, use that to sign up and then put the stuff
> > in a Linksys.
> >
> > Mark Butler wrote:
> > > I have SBS 2000 with SP3 applied. I have a computer with two NIC
cards,
> one
> > > internal the other for the internet.
> > >
> > > I have SBC DSL which has a dynamic IP address and uses PPOE. Trying
to
> > > configure without the use of a router.
> > >
> > > First is there a "how to" document for typical configuration? If not
I
> have
> > > a few questions.
> > >
> > > 1. How do I supply the name and password for the PPOE authentication?
> > > 2. With a dynamic IP address, their gateway unknown, their DNS
unknown,
> how
> > > do I set up the NIC?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Mark Butler
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > "Don't lose sight of security. Security is a state of being,
> > not a state of budget. He with the most firewalls still does
> > not win. Put down that honeypot and keep up to date on your
> > patches. Demand better security from vendors and hold them
> > responsible. Use what you have, and make sure you know how
> > to use it properly and effectively."
> > ~Rain Forest Puppy
> > http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/txt/evolution.txt
> >
>
>