Bill
Sun Sep 12 11:38:06 CDT 2004
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Hi Marcelo
Agree with cris for the indepth analysis but something I thought of =
could be a starting point is a Network inventory software tool.
Two I find useful are Emco =
http://www.emco.is/networkinventory3/nifeatures.html
and Newt (freeware and professional)
http://www.komododigital.com/ ..click on products
Bill
"Marcelo Goulart" <marcelo@plug-in.com.br> wrote in message =
news:OYf$4M0lEHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Thank you,
You are right. These boxes will have different problems, in different =
times. It doesn't matter if the hardware and the software and =
installation procedure are the same ones...
I only imagined if somebody knew some sorts things out of comparing =
the configuration of the two boxes. Maybe some tool of third. =20
=20
This tool could also be useful for the field technicians, when =
arriving in a new customer to compare the customer's box with an =
standard installation. =20
=20
I understand the difficulty and complexity of a tool like this. But it =
would be an excellent tool :-)
Marcelo
"CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <crishannanospam@computingpossibilities.net> =
escreveu na mensagem news:em4zR%23qlEHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
FWIW
I'm not sure I'd loose any sleep over this
I'm a firm believer that I could order two identical servers from =
Dell, or HP, or IBM or who ever
Order Two copies of SBS from the same distributor at the same time
Have a step by step document which outlines the install procedure =
and follow it to the letter, have them sitting side beside and one will =
have an error and the other will not
--=20
Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
_____________________
Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that =
everyone can share the information
"Marcelo Goulart" <marcelo@plug-in.com.br> wrote in message =
news:Oqg8m3qlEHA.2612@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Hi Cris,
Yes, this is the situation. Sometimes I have problems in one =
of the servers and I don't have in the other.
The installed softwares, services pack and updates are the same =
ones in both servers. The extra softwares (antivirus, no-break, etc) =
they are the same in both servers too. But I feel that they don't behave =
in the same way.
This week I had lots of errors ID 1008 / PerfLib / "PSched" into =
event viewer. Did I correct using information found in the Web but, why =
didn't the other server have the same error? The modifications that I =
did to correct the problem did in just one of the servers. And the =
other? They should be identical.
For that is that I would like then of comparing the two SBSes. May =
be to compare with a clean installation, with all SP and fixes =
installed.
Thank you,
Marcelo
"CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" =
<crishannanospam@computingpossibilities.net> escreveu na mensagem =
news:eeDN9TqlEHA.1904@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
To the best of my knowledge nothing exists which would =
accomplish this
Are you having a problem with one of the servers or does one of =
the servers do something the other won't???
--=20
Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
_____________________
Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so =
that everyone can share the information
"Marcelo Goulart" <marcelo@plug-in.com.br> wrote in message =
news:eRA9pQqlEHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
We have two SBS boxes installed in two different branches of =
our company.=20
The setup of two SBS were made in hardwares almost 100% =
identical (Dell=20
PowerEdger 1600).
As the two machines were installed in different moments and by =
different=20
people, we believed that they have different configurations.
Respecting the characteristics that are own of each =
installation of SBS=20
(domain name, users accounts, users files and folder, etc), =
Exist some tool=20
or tip to compare the two boxes and detect the differences? =
Maybe to compare=20
with a third installation, 100% clean and to detect the =
differences? (ISA=20
rules, DNS and DHCP, Windows configurations, etc)
The Objective is to have the configurations the most similar =
possible.
Differences into Registry, INI files, configuration files, =
version of DLLs.=20
I understand that the task is not easy. Maybe impossible. =
Maybe the simplest=20
way is reinstall the boxes starting from the zero, writing =
down and=20
following the same steps in the two branches. Does anybody =
have some=20
different idea?
Thanks
Marcelo
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Marcelo</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Agree with cris for the indepth =
analysis but=20
something I thought of could be a starting point is a Network inventory =
software=20
tool.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Two I find useful are Emco <A=20
href=3D"
http://www.emco.is/networkinventory3/nifeatures.html">http://www.=
emco.is/networkinventory3/nifeatures.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and Newt (freeware and =
professional)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"
http://www.komododigital.com/">http://www.komododigital.com/</A>&=
nbsp;..click=20
on products</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bill</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Marcelo Goulart" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:marcelo@plug-in.com.br">marcelo@plug-in.com.br</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:OYf$4M0lEHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl">news:OYf$4M0lEHA.3896=
@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You are right. These boxes will have =
different=20
problems, in different times. It doesn't matter if the hardware and =
the=20
software and installation procedure are the same ones...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I only imagined if somebody knew some =
sorts=20
things out of comparing the configuration of the two boxes. Maybe some =
tool of=20
third. <BR> <BR>This tool could also be useful for the =
field=20
technicians, when arriving in a new customer to compare the customer's =
box=20
with an standard installation. <BR> <BR>I understand the=20
difficulty and complexity of a tool like this. But it would be an =
excellent=20
tool :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Marcelo</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:crishannanospam@computingpossibilities.net">crishannanospa=
m@computingpossibilities.net</A>>=20
escreveu na mensagem <A=20
=
href=3D"news:em4zR%23qlEHA.712@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl">news:em4zR%23qlEHA.7=
12@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>FWIW</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm not sure I'd loose any sleep =
over=20
this</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm a firm believer that I =
could order two=20
identical servers from Dell, or HP, or IBM or who ever</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Order Two copies of SBS from the =
same=20
distributor at the same time</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have a step by step document which =
outlines the=20
install procedure and follow it to the letter, have them sitting =
side beside=20
and one will have an error and the other will not</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Cris Hanna =
(SBS-MVP)<BR>_____________________<BR>Please only=20
respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that everyone =
can share=20
the information</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Marcelo Goulart" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:marcelo@plug-in.com.br">marcelo@plug-in.com.br</A>> =
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:Oqg8m3qlEHA.2612@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl">news:Oqg8m3qlEHA.2612=
@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Cris,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Yes, this is =
the=20
situation. Sometimes I have problems in one of the servers =
and I=20
don't have in the other.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The installed softwares, services =
pack and=20
updates are the same ones in both servers. The extra softwares =
(antivirus,=20
no-break, etc) they are the same in both servers too. But I feel =
that they=20
don't behave in the same way.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This week I had lots of errors ID =
1008 /=20
PerfLib / "PSched" into event viewer. </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Did I correct using information found in the Web but, why =
didn't=20
the other server have the same error? The modifications that I did =
to=20
correct the problem did in just one of the servers. And the other? =
They=20
should be identical.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For that is that I would like =
then of=20
comparing the two SBSes. May be to compare with=20
a clean installation, with all SP and fixes=20
installed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Marcelo</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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<DIV>"CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:crishannanospam@computingpossibilities.net">crishannanospa=
m@computingpossibilities.net</A>>=20
escreveu na mensagem <A=20
=
href=3D"news:eeDN9TqlEHA.1904@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl">news:eeDN9TqlEHA.1904=
@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>To the best of my knowledge =
nothing exists=20
which would accomplish this</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Are you having a problem =
with one of=20
the servers or does one of the servers do something the other=20
won't???</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Cris Hanna =
(SBS-MVP)<BR>_____________________<BR>Please=20
only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that =
everyone=20
can share the information</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: =
5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Marcelo Goulart" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:marcelo@plug-in.com.br">marcelo@plug-in.com.br</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:eRA9pQqlEHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl">news:eRA9pQqlEHA.536@T=
K2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV><BR>We=20
have two SBS boxes installed in two different branches of our =
company.=20
<BR>The setup of two SBS were made in hardwares almost 100% =
identical=20
(Dell <BR>PowerEdger 1600).<BR><BR>As the two machines were =
installed=20
in different moments and by different <BR>people, we believed =
that=20
they have different configurations.<BR><BR>Respecting the=20
characteristics that are own of each installation of SBS =
<BR>(domain=20
name, users accounts, users files and folder, etc), Exist some =
tool=20
<BR>or tip to compare the two boxes and detect the =
differences? Maybe=20
to compare <BR>with a third installation, 100% clean and to =
detect the=20
differences? (ISA <BR>rules, DNS and DHCP, Windows =
configurations,=20
etc)<BR><BR>The Objective is to have the configurations the =
most=20
similar possible.<BR><BR>Differences into Registry, INI files, =
configuration files, version of DLLs. <BR>I understand that =
the task=20
is not easy. Maybe impossible. Maybe the simplest <BR>way is =
reinstall=20
the boxes starting from the zero, writing down and =
<BR>following the=20
same steps in the two branches. Does anybody have some =
<BR>different=20
=
idea?<BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR>Marcelo<BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUO=
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