I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also have 10
workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured it was just running out
of CALS every now and again so we purchased 5 more CALS, so now we have 15
CALS with 10 PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a lengthy site
visit I found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then the 10th would
not log on. If I log 1 PC off then the 10th PC can get on but the PC I
logged off can't log on anymore. I have restarted the server and down all
PC's twice, removed WINS and DNS from the DHCP options. I have also
reapplied W2K SP3 with no success. I'm not putting SP4 on due to problems
with it. Does any1 have any ideas on why it's not letting more than 9 users
on when I have more than enough CALs?

All PC's are Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with a Windows 2000/XP machine
yet. The server is not connected to the internet in any way. It does simple
file sharing and that's all (not even print sharing).

Re: Clients not able to login - licensing question. by Cris

Cris
Mon Aug 11 21:21:21 CDT 2003

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Given the description of what you are using using the server for...I =
can't imagine why SBS was chosen as the OS.
Are there any third party products on the server which setup as a =
service??
Is Exchange being used for internal mail???

--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
Please DO NOT email me directly but respond only in the newsgroup so =
that all can benefit.
"BiLLz0r" <billz0r@fjpcs.com.au> wrote in message =
news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also have 10
workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured it was just =
running out
of CALS every now and again so we purchased 5 more CALS, so now we =
have 15
CALS with 10 PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a lengthy =
site
visit I found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then the 10th =
would
not log on. If I log 1 PC off then the 10th PC can get on but the PC I
logged off can't log on anymore. I have restarted the server and down =
all
PC's twice, removed WINS and DNS from the DHCP options. I have also
reapplied W2K SP3 with no success. I'm not putting SP4 on due to =
problems
with it. Does any1 have any ideas on why it's not letting more than 9 =
users
on when I have more than enough CALs?

All PC's are Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with a Windows 2000/XP =
machine
yet. The server is not connected to the internet in any way. It does =
simple
file sharing and that's all (not even print sharing).


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Re: Clients not able to login - licensing question. by Kevin

Kevin
Mon Aug 11 21:41:05 CDT 2003

Veritas Backup Exec was known to use up licenses. IF you indeed have a valid
number of CALS, then until you solve the problem, there simply stop the
Licenses Manager from running.

As Chris wrote, given your scenario, not sure why you bought SBS2000. If
there is no Internet access, then there's no email access - thus no need for
either Exchange or ISA or IIS, three of the biggest reasons for going with
SBS.
-kw

"BiLLz0r" <billz0r@fjpcs.com.au> wrote in message
news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also have 10
> workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured it was just running
out
> of CALS every now and again so we purchased 5 more CALS, so now we have 15
> CALS with 10 PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a lengthy site
> visit I found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then the 10th
would
> not log on. If I log 1 PC off then the 10th PC can get on but the PC I
> logged off can't log on anymore. I have restarted the server and down all
> PC's twice, removed WINS and DNS from the DHCP options. I have also
> reapplied W2K SP3 with no success. I'm not putting SP4 on due to problems
> with it. Does any1 have any ideas on why it's not letting more than 9
users
> on when I have more than enough CALs?
>
> All PC's are Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with a Windows 2000/XP
machine
> yet. The server is not connected to the internet in any way. It does
simple
> file sharing and that's all (not even print sharing).
>
>



Re: Clients not able to login - licensing question. by BiLLz0r

BiLLz0r
Mon Aug 11 21:55:44 CDT 2003

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Because there were plans to have one of their software programs ported =
to SQL server.
"Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in message =
news:OEZwuhHYDHA.1644@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Given the description of what you are using using the server for...I =
can't imagine why SBS was chosen as the OS.
Are there any third party products on the server which setup as a =
service??
Is Exchange being used for internal mail???

--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
Please DO NOT email me directly but respond only in the newsgroup so =
that all can benefit.
"BiLLz0r" <billz0r@fjpcs.com.au> wrote in message =
news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also have 10
workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured it was just =
running out
of CALS every now and again so we purchased 5 more CALS, so now we =
have 15
CALS with 10 PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a lengthy =
site
visit I found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then the =
10th would
not log on. If I log 1 PC off then the 10th PC can get on but the PC =
I
logged off can't log on anymore. I have restarted the server and =
down all
PC's twice, removed WINS and DNS from the DHCP options. I have also
reapplied W2K SP3 with no success. I'm not putting SP4 on due to =
problems
with it. Does any1 have any ideas on why it's not letting more than =
9 users
on when I have more than enough CALs?

All PC's are Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with a Windows 2000/XP =
machine
yet. The server is not connected to the internet in any way. It does =
simple
file sharing and that's all (not even print sharing).


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Re: Clients not able to login - licensing question. by BiLLz0r

BiLLz0r
Mon Aug 11 21:57:22 CDT 2003

Thanks, but unfortunately they don't use Veritas Backup Exec. They only use
NTBackup.

I tried stopping the License Logging service but had the same result. Is
there another service I need to stop?




"Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
news:%23y4UusHYDHA.652@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Veritas Backup Exec was known to use up licenses. IF you indeed have a
valid
> number of CALS, then until you solve the problem, there simply stop the
> Licenses Manager from running.
>
> As Chris wrote, given your scenario, not sure why you bought SBS2000. If
> there is no Internet access, then there's no email access - thus no need
for
> either Exchange or ISA or IIS, three of the biggest reasons for going with
> SBS.
> -kw
>
> "BiLLz0r" <billz0r@fjpcs.com.au> wrote in message
> news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also have 10
> > workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured it was just running
> out
> > of CALS every now and again so we purchased 5 more CALS, so now we have
15
> > CALS with 10 PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a lengthy site
> > visit I found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then the 10th
> would
> > not log on. If I log 1 PC off then the 10th PC can get on but the PC I
> > logged off can't log on anymore. I have restarted the server and down
all
> > PC's twice, removed WINS and DNS from the DHCP options. I have also
> > reapplied W2K SP3 with no success. I'm not putting SP4 on due to
problems
> > with it. Does any1 have any ideas on why it's not letting more than 9
> users
> > on when I have more than enough CALs?
> >
> > All PC's are Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with a Windows 2000/XP
> machine
> > yet. The server is not connected to the internet in any way. It does
> simple
> > file sharing and that's all (not even print sharing).
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Clients not able to login - licensing question. by Javier

Javier
Mon Aug 11 22:05:07 CDT 2003

Are you able to see the 15 CALs installed tru the console?

-JG

"Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:OEZwuhHYDHA.1644@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Given the description of what you are using using the server for...I can't
imagine why SBS was chosen as the OS.
Are there any third party products on the server which setup as a service??
Is Exchange being used for internal mail???

--
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
Please DO NOT email me directly but respond only in the newsgroup so that
all can benefit.
"BiLLz0r" <billz0r@fjpcs.com.au> wrote in message
news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also have 10
workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured it was just running out
of CALS every now and again so we purchased 5 more CALS, so now we have 15
CALS with 10 PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a lengthy site
visit I found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then the 10th would
not log on. If I log 1 PC off then the 10th PC can get on but the PC I
logged off can't log on anymore. I have restarted the server and down all
PC's twice, removed WINS and DNS from the DHCP options. I have also
reapplied W2K SP3 with no success. I'm not putting SP4 on due to problems
with it. Does any1 have any ideas on why it's not letting more than 9 users
on when I have more than enough CALs?

All PC's are Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with a Windows 2000/XP machine
yet. The server is not connected to the internet in any way. It does simple
file sharing and that's all (not even print sharing).



Re: Clients not able to login - licensing question. by Cris

Cris
Mon Aug 11 22:23:39 CDT 2003

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If you have stopped the licensed logging service...technically you =
should be able to log on a limitless number of workstations, because =
there is no validation again the number of CALs

You may want to consider contacting MS Support directly unless someone =
else pulls some gem out of their hat

--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
Please DO NOT email me directly but respond only in the newsgroup so =
that all can benefit.
"BiLLz0r" <billz0r@nospam.com.au> wrote in message =
news:eJKy40HYDHA.3724@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Thanks, but unfortunately they don't use Veritas Backup Exec. They =
only use
NTBackup.

I tried stopping the License Logging service but had the same result. =
Is
there another service I need to stop?




"Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
news:%23y4UusHYDHA.652@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Veritas Backup Exec was known to use up licenses. IF you indeed have =
a
valid
> number of CALS, then until you solve the problem, there simply stop =
the
> Licenses Manager from running.
>
> As Chris wrote, given your scenario, not sure why you bought =
SBS2000. If
> there is no Internet access, then there's no email access - thus no =
need
for
> either Exchange or ISA or IIS, three of the biggest reasons for =
going with
> SBS.
> -kw
>
> "BiLLz0r" <billz0r@fjpcs.com.au> wrote in message
> news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also have 10
> > workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured it was just =
running
> out
> > of CALS every now and again so we purchased 5 more CALS, so now we =
have
15
> > CALS with 10 PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a =
lengthy site
> > visit I found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then the =
10th
> would
> > not log on. If I log 1 PC off then the 10th PC can get on but the =
PC I
> > logged off can't log on anymore. I have restarted the server and =
down
all
> > PC's twice, removed WINS and DNS from the DHCP options. I have =
also
> > reapplied W2K SP3 with no success. I'm not putting SP4 on due to
problems
> > with it. Does any1 have any ideas on why it's not letting more =
than 9
> users
> > on when I have more than enough CALs?
> >
> > All PC's are Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with a Windows =
2000/XP
> machine
> > yet. The server is not connected to the internet in any way. It =
does
> simple
> > file sharing and that's all (not even print sharing).
> >
> >
>
>


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&lt;<A =
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=
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&gt; I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also have=20
10<BR>&gt; &gt; workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured =
it was=20
just running<BR>&gt; out<BR>&gt; &gt; of CALS every now and again so =
we=20
purchased 5 more CALS, so now we have<BR>15<BR>&gt; &gt; CALS with 10 =
PC's.=20
The problem still occurs though. After a lengthy site<BR>&gt; &gt; =
visit I=20
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get on=20
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DNS from=20
the DHCP options. I have also<BR>&gt; &gt; reapplied W2K SP3 with no =
success.=20
I'm not putting SP4 on due to<BR>problems<BR>&gt; &gt; with it. Does =
any1 have=20
any ideas on why it's not letting more than 9<BR>&gt; users<BR>&gt; =
&gt; on=20
when I have more than enough CALs?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; All PC's =
are=20
Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with a Windows 2000/XP<BR>&gt;=20
machine<BR>&gt; &gt; yet. The server is not connected to the internet =
in any=20
way. It does<BR>&gt; simple<BR>&gt; &gt; file sharing and that's all =
(not even=20
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Re: Clients not able to login - licensing question. by BiLLz0r

BiLLz0r
Tue Aug 12 00:38:06 CDT 2003

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Currently on hold to support for the last 30mins. It was engaged for =
hours b4 that :(
"Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in message =
news:O6rwgEIYDHA.1680@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
If you have stopped the licensed logging service...technically you =
should be able to log on a limitless number of workstations, because =
there is no validation again the number of CALs

You may want to consider contacting MS Support directly unless someone =
else pulls some gem out of their hat

--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
Please DO NOT email me directly but respond only in the newsgroup so =
that all can benefit.
"BiLLz0r" <billz0r@nospam.com.au> wrote in message =
news:eJKy40HYDHA.3724@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Thanks, but unfortunately they don't use Veritas Backup Exec. They =
only use
NTBackup.

I tried stopping the License Logging service but had the same =
result. Is
there another service I need to stop?




"Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
news:%23y4UusHYDHA.652@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Veritas Backup Exec was known to use up licenses. IF you indeed =
have a
valid
> number of CALS, then until you solve the problem, there simply =
stop the
> Licenses Manager from running.
>
> As Chris wrote, given your scenario, not sure why you bought =
SBS2000. If
> there is no Internet access, then there's no email access - thus =
no need
for
> either Exchange or ISA or IIS, three of the biggest reasons for =
going with
> SBS.
> -kw
>
> "BiLLz0r" <billz0r@fjpcs.com.au> wrote in message
> news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also have =
10
> > workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured it was just =
running
> out
> > of CALS every now and again so we purchased 5 more CALS, so now =
we have
15
> > CALS with 10 PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a =
lengthy site
> > visit I found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then the =
10th
> would
> > not log on. If I log 1 PC off then the 10th PC can get on but =
the PC I
> > logged off can't log on anymore. I have restarted the server and =
down
all
> > PC's twice, removed WINS and DNS from the DHCP options. I have =
also
> > reapplied W2K SP3 with no success. I'm not putting SP4 on due to
problems
> > with it. Does any1 have any ideas on why it's not letting more =
than 9
> users
> > on when I have more than enough CALs?
> >
> > All PC's are Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with a Windows =
2000/XP
> machine
> > yet. The server is not connected to the internet in any way. It =
does
> simple
> > file sharing and that's all (not even print sharing).
> >
> >
>
>


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=
href=3D"mailto:crishanna@mindspring.com">crishanna@mindspring.com</A>&gt;=
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:O6rwgEIYDHA.1680@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl">news:O6rwgEIYDHA.1680=
@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you have stopped the licensed =
logging=20
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of=20
workstations, because there is no validation again the number of=20
CALs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You may want to consider contacting =
MS Support=20
directly unless someone else pulls some gem out of their =
hat</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]<BR>Please DO NOT email me =
directly but=20
respond only in the newsgroup so that all can benefit.</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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<DIV>"BiLLz0r" &lt;<A=20
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wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:eJKy40HYDHA.3724@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl">news:eJKy40HYDHA.3724=
@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>Thanks,=20
but unfortunately they don't use Veritas Backup Exec. They only=20
use<BR>NTBackup.<BR><BR>I tried stopping the License Logging service =
but had=20
the same result. Is<BR>there another service I need to=20
stop?<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Kevin Weilbacher" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:kweilbac@gte.net">kweilbac@gte.net</A>&gt; wrote in=20
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=
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52@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl</A>...<BR>&gt;=20
Veritas Backup Exec was known to use up licenses. IF you indeed have =

a<BR>valid<BR>&gt; number of CALS, then until you solve the problem, =
there=20
simply stop the<BR>&gt; Licenses Manager from =
running.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; As=20
Chris wrote, given your scenario, not sure why you bought SBS2000.=20
If<BR>&gt; there is no Internet access, then there's no email access =
- thus=20
no need<BR>for<BR>&gt; either Exchange or ISA or IIS, three of the =
biggest=20
reasons for going with<BR>&gt; SBS.<BR>&gt; -kw<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
"BiLLz0r"=20
&lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:billz0r@fjpcs.com.au">billz0r@fjpcs.com.au</A>&gt; wrote=20
in message<BR>&gt; <A=20
=
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@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl</A>...<BR>&gt;=20
&gt; I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also have =

10<BR>&gt; &gt; workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured =
it was=20
just running<BR>&gt; out<BR>&gt; &gt; of CALS every now and again so =
we=20
purchased 5 more CALS, so now we have<BR>15<BR>&gt; &gt; CALS with =
10 PC's.=20
The problem still occurs though. After a lengthy site<BR>&gt; &gt; =
visit I=20
found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then the =
10th<BR>&gt;=20
would<BR>&gt; &gt; not log on. If I log 1 PC off then the 10th PC =
can get on=20
but the PC I<BR>&gt; &gt; logged off can't log on anymore. I have =
restarted=20
the server and down<BR>all<BR>&gt; &gt; PC's twice, removed WINS and =
DNS=20
from the DHCP options. I have also<BR>&gt; &gt; reapplied W2K SP3 =
with no=20
success. I'm not putting SP4 on due to<BR>problems<BR>&gt; &gt; with =
it.=20
Does any1 have any ideas on why it's not letting more than 9<BR>&gt; =

users<BR>&gt; &gt; on when I have more than enough CALs?<BR>&gt;=20
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; All PC's are Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with =
a=20
Windows 2000/XP<BR>&gt; machine<BR>&gt; &gt; yet. The server is not=20
connected to the internet in any way. It does<BR>&gt; simple<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
file sharing and that's all (not even print sharing).<BR>&gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
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Re: Clients not able to login - licensing question. by Marina

Marina
Tue Aug 12 05:12:23 CDT 2003

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Are the clients using Microsoft Outlook? Make sure that they don't just =
shut down the application but also Log off. That can only be done by =
using the Menu File, Shut down AND Log off.

Marina

"BiLLz0r" <billz0r@nospam.com.au> schreef in bericht =
news:#qB6sOJYDHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Currently on hold to support for the last 30mins. It was engaged for =
hours b4 that :(
"Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in message =
news:O6rwgEIYDHA.1680@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
If you have stopped the licensed logging service...technically you =
should be able to log on a limitless number of workstations, because =
there is no validation again the number of CALs

You may want to consider contacting MS Support directly unless =
someone else pulls some gem out of their hat

--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
Please DO NOT email me directly but respond only in the newsgroup so =
that all can benefit.
"BiLLz0r" <billz0r@nospam.com.au> wrote in message =
news:eJKy40HYDHA.3724@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Thanks, but unfortunately they don't use Veritas Backup Exec. They =
only use
NTBackup.

I tried stopping the License Logging service but had the same =
result. Is
there another service I need to stop?




"Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
news:%23y4UusHYDHA.652@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Veritas Backup Exec was known to use up licenses. IF you indeed =
have a
valid
> number of CALS, then until you solve the problem, there simply =
stop the
> Licenses Manager from running.
>
> As Chris wrote, given your scenario, not sure why you bought =
SBS2000. If
> there is no Internet access, then there's no email access - thus =
no need
for
> either Exchange or ISA or IIS, three of the biggest reasons for =
going with
> SBS.
> -kw
>
> "BiLLz0r" <billz0r@fjpcs.com.au> wrote in message
> news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also =
have 10
> > workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured it was =
just running
> out
> > of CALS every now and again so we purchased 5 more CALS, so =
now we have
15
> > CALS with 10 PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a =
lengthy site
> > visit I found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then =
the 10th
> would
> > not log on. If I log 1 PC off then the 10th PC can get on but =
the PC I
> > logged off can't log on anymore. I have restarted the server =
and down
all
> > PC's twice, removed WINS and DNS from the DHCP options. I have =
also
> > reapplied W2K SP3 with no success. I'm not putting SP4 on due =
to
problems
> > with it. Does any1 have any ideas on why it's not letting more =
than 9
> users
> > on when I have more than enough CALs?
> >
> > All PC's are Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with a Windows =
2000/XP
> machine
> > yet. The server is not connected to the internet in any way. =
It does
> simple
> > file sharing and that's all (not even print sharing).
> >
> >
>
>


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Outlook? Make sure=20
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can only=20
be done by using the Menu File, Shut down AND Log off.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Marina</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"BiLLz0r" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:billz0r@nospam.com.au">billz0r@nospam.com.au</A>&gt; =
schreef in=20
bericht <A=20
=
href=3D"news:#qB6sOJYDHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl">news:#qB6sOJYDHA.2424=
@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Currently on hold to support for the =
last 30mins.=20
It was engaged for hours b4 that :(</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:crishanna@mindspring.com">crishanna@mindspring.com</A>&gt;=
=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:O6rwgEIYDHA.1680@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl">news:O6rwgEIYDHA.1680=
@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you have stopped the licensed =
logging=20
service...technically you should be able to log on a limitless =
number of=20
workstations, because there is no validation again the number of=20
CALs</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>You may want to consider contacting =
MS Support=20
directly unless someone else pulls some gem out of their =
hat</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]<BR>Please DO NOT email me =
directly=20
but respond only in the newsgroup so that all can benefit.</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"BiLLz0r" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:billz0r@nospam.com.au">billz0r@nospam.com.au</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:eJKy40HYDHA.3724@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl">news:eJKy40HYDHA.3724=
@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl</A>...</DIV>Thanks,=20
but unfortunately they don't use Veritas Backup Exec. They only=20
use<BR>NTBackup.<BR><BR>I tried stopping the License Logging =
service but=20
had the same result. Is<BR>there another service I need to=20
stop?<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Kevin Weilbacher" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:kweilbac@gte.net">kweilbac@gte.net</A>&gt; wrote in =

message<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"news:%23y4UusHYDHA.652@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl">news:%23y4UusHYDHA.6=
52@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl</A>...<BR>&gt;=20
Veritas Backup Exec was known to use up licenses. IF you indeed =
have=20
a<BR>valid<BR>&gt; number of CALS, then until you solve the =
problem, there=20
simply stop the<BR>&gt; Licenses Manager from =
running.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; As=20
Chris wrote, given your scenario, not sure why you bought SBS2000. =

If<BR>&gt; there is no Internet access, then there's no email =
access -=20
thus no need<BR>for<BR>&gt; either Exchange or ISA or IIS, three =
of the=20
biggest reasons for going with<BR>&gt; SBS.<BR>&gt; =
-kw<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
"BiLLz0r" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:billz0r@fjpcs.com.au">billz0r@fjpcs.com.au</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message<BR>&gt; <A=20
=
href=3D"news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl">news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136=
@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl</A>...<BR>&gt;=20
&gt; I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also =
have=20
10<BR>&gt; &gt; workstations and 1 could often not log on. I =
figured it=20
was just running<BR>&gt; out<BR>&gt; &gt; of CALS every now and =
again so=20
we purchased 5 more CALS, so now we have<BR>15<BR>&gt; &gt; CALS =
with 10=20
PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a lengthy =
site<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
visit I found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then the=20
10th<BR>&gt; would<BR>&gt; &gt; not log on. If I log 1 PC off then =
the=20
10th PC can get on but the PC I<BR>&gt; &gt; logged off can't log =
on=20
anymore. I have restarted the server and down<BR>all<BR>&gt; &gt; =
PC's=20
twice, removed WINS and DNS from the DHCP options. I have =
also<BR>&gt;=20
&gt; reapplied W2K SP3 with no success. I'm not putting SP4 on due =

to<BR>problems<BR>&gt; &gt; with it. Does any1 have any ideas on =
why it's=20
not letting more than 9<BR>&gt; users<BR>&gt; &gt; on when I have =
more=20
than enough CALs?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; All PC's are Windows =
98SE. I=20
haven't tried it with a Windows 2000/XP<BR>&gt; machine<BR>&gt; =
&gt; yet.=20
The server is not connected to the internet in any way. It =
does<BR>&gt;=20
simple<BR>&gt; &gt; file sharing and that's all (not even print=20
sharing).<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;=20
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Re: Clients not able to login - licensing question. by Chas

Chas
Tue Aug 12 10:13:35 CDT 2003

I'm having the same problem.... We have 15 verified CAL's, but only 9 PC's,
yet when we try to add another PC, the clients are unable to log in. But if
we log off a machine that has access, we can then log on the 10th PC. Is it
possible that the DHCP server has run out of IP's? I think that the scope
is set to allow 50 ip's... should I increase the number of ip's? Change the
lease durations? Also, is there a way to determine what client or service
is currently using a CAL?

System: SBS2000 w/SP3, clients operating XP 2000, and 98SE, plus one Mac w/
OS 10.2

Thanks,

Charley Armstrong

"BiLLz0r" <billz0r@fjpcs.com.au> wrote in message
news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also have 10
> workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured it was just running
out
> of CALS every now and again so we purchased 5 more CALS, so now we have 15
> CALS with 10 PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a lengthy site
> visit I found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then the 10th
would
> not log on. If I log 1 PC off then the 10th PC can get on but the PC I
> logged off can't log on anymore. I have restarted the server and down all
> PC's twice, removed WINS and DNS from the DHCP options. I have also
> reapplied W2K SP3 with no success. I'm not putting SP4 on due to problems
> with it. Does any1 have any ideas on why it's not letting more than 9
users
> on when I have more than enough CALs?
>
> All PC's are Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with a Windows 2000/XP
machine
> yet. The server is not connected to the internet in any way. It does
simple
> file sharing and that's all (not even print sharing).
>
>



Re: Clients not able to login - licensing question. by danabeckonline

danabeckonline
Tue Aug 12 12:46:12 CDT 2003

If you stopped the license logging service temporarily and still couldn't
log on, then your problem is definitely not licensing related. If you check
the Application and System logs on the SBS 2000 server, is there any
indication of what might be causing this? If so, copy and paste the results
of the event's so we can take a look at them.

Regards,

Dana Becker
Microsoft Small Business Server Support

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.




|
| Currently on hold to support for the last 30mins. It was engaged for
hours b4 that :(
| "Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:O6rwgEIYDHA.1680@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| If you have stopped the licensed logging service...technically you
should be able to log on a limitless number of workstations, because there
is no validation again the number of CALs
| You may want to consider contacting MS Support directly unless someone
else pulls some gem out of their hat
| --
| Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
| Please DO NOT email me directly but respond only in the newsgroup so
that all can benefit.
| "BiLLz0r" <billz0r@nospam.com.au> wrote in message
news:eJKy40HYDHA.3724@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| Thanks, but unfortunately they don't use Veritas Backup Exec. They
only use
| NTBackup.
| I tried stopping the License Logging service but had the same result.
Is
| there another service I need to stop?
| "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
| news:%23y4UusHYDHA.652@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > Veritas Backup Exec was known to use up licenses. IF you indeed
have a
| valid
| > number of CALS, then until you solve the problem, there simply stop
the
| > Licenses Manager from running.
| >
| > As Chris wrote, given your scenario, not sure why you bought
SBS2000. If
| > there is no Internet access, then there's no email access - thus no
need
| for
| > either Exchange or ISA or IIS, three of the biggest reasons for
going with
| > SBS.
| > -kw
| >
| > "BiLLz0r" <billz0r@fjpcs.com.au> wrote in message
| > news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > > I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also have 10
| > > workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured it was just
running
| > out
| > > of CALS every now and again so we purchased 5 more CALS, so now
we have
| 15
| > > CALS with 10 PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a
lengthy site
| > > visit I found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then the
10th
| > would
| > > not log on. If I log 1 PC off then the 10th PC can get on but the
PC I
| > > logged off can't log on anymore. I have restarted the server and
down
| all
| > > PC's twice, removed WINS and DNS from the DHCP options. I have
also
| > > reapplied W2K SP3 with no success. I'm not putting SP4 on due to
| problems
| > > with it. Does any1 have any ideas on why it's not letting more
than 9
| > users
| > > on when I have more than enough CALs?
| > >
| > > All PC's are Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with a Windows
2000/XP
| > machine
| > > yet. The server is not connected to the internet in any way. It
does
| > simple
| > > file sharing and that's all (not even print sharing).
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|


Re: Clients not able to login - licensing question. by Marina

Marina
Tue Aug 12 13:02:40 CDT 2003

Again, make sure people Shut down AND log off from Microsoft Outlook instead
of just closing it.

Marina

"Chas Armstrong" <usegroups@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:erEBPROYDHA.2032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I'm having the same problem.... We have 15 verified CAL's, but only 9
PC's,
> yet when we try to add another PC, the clients are unable to log in. But
if
> we log off a machine that has access, we can then log on the 10th PC. Is
it
> possible that the DHCP server has run out of IP's? I think that the scope
> is set to allow 50 ip's... should I increase the number of ip's? Change
the
> lease durations? Also, is there a way to determine what client or service
> is currently using a CAL?
>
> System: SBS2000 w/SP3, clients operating XP 2000, and 98SE, plus one Mac
w/
> OS 10.2
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charley Armstrong
>
> "BiLLz0r" <billz0r@fjpcs.com.au> wrote in message
> news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also have 10
> > workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured it was just running
> out
> > of CALS every now and again so we purchased 5 more CALS, so now we have
15
> > CALS with 10 PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a lengthy site
> > visit I found out I'd get to 9 PC's logging on fine and then the 10th
> would
> > not log on. If I log 1 PC off then the 10th PC can get on but the PC I
> > logged off can't log on anymore. I have restarted the server and down
all
> > PC's twice, removed WINS and DNS from the DHCP options. I have also
> > reapplied W2K SP3 with no success. I'm not putting SP4 on due to
problems
> > with it. Does any1 have any ideas on why it's not letting more than 9
> users
> > on when I have more than enough CALs?
> >
> > All PC's are Windows 98SE. I haven't tried it with a Windows 2000/XP
> machine
> > yet. The server is not connected to the internet in any way. It does
> simple
> > file sharing and that's all (not even print sharing).
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Clients not able to login - licensing question. by BiLLz0r

BiLLz0r
Tue Aug 12 22:31:52 CDT 2003

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Nah they don't use Outlook. They have a silly lotus diary and thats it.
"Marina Roos" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in message =
news:b43_a.88481$506.84460@typhoon.bart.nl...
Are the clients using Microsoft Outlook? Make sure that they don't =
just shut down the application but also Log off. That can only be done =
by using the Menu File, Shut down AND Log off.

Marina

"BiLLz0r" <billz0r@nospam.com.au> schreef in bericht =
news:#qB6sOJYDHA.2424@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Currently on hold to support for the last 30mins. It was engaged for =
hours b4 that :(
"Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]" <crishanna@mindspring.com> wrote in =
message news:O6rwgEIYDHA.1680@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
If you have stopped the licensed logging service...technically you =
should be able to log on a limitless number of workstations, because =
there is no validation again the number of CALs

You may want to consider contacting MS Support directly unless =
someone else pulls some gem out of their hat

--=20
Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP]
Please DO NOT email me directly but respond only in the newsgroup =
so that all can benefit.
"BiLLz0r" <billz0r@nospam.com.au> wrote in message =
news:eJKy40HYDHA.3724@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Thanks, but unfortunately they don't use Veritas Backup Exec. =
They only use
NTBackup.

I tried stopping the License Logging service but had the same =
result. Is
there another service I need to stop?




"Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
news:%23y4UusHYDHA.652@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Veritas Backup Exec was known to use up licenses. IF you =
indeed have a
valid
> number of CALS, then until you solve the problem, there simply =
stop the
> Licenses Manager from running.
>
> As Chris wrote, given your scenario, not sure why you bought =
SBS2000. If
> there is no Internet access, then there's no email access - =
thus no need
for
> either Exchange or ISA or IIS, three of the biggest reasons =
for going with
> SBS.
> -kw
>
> "BiLLz0r" <billz0r@fjpcs.com.au> wrote in message
> news:uuIe7MHYDHA.2136@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I have a client with a SBS2K server and 10 CALS. They also =
have 10
> > workstations and 1 could often not log on. I figured it was =
just running
> out
> > of CALS every now and again so we purchased 5 more CALS, so =
now we have
15
> > CALS with 10 PC's. The problem still occurs though. After a =
lengthy site
> > visit I f