Client PCs still losing their connection to the server :-(

Hi,

A few weeks ago I posted a question "Client PCs lose their connection to the
server".

Marina Roos was kind enough to help :-) and as a result I found the
"welchia" virus on the server :-(

Everything is now clean. All the latest patches have been downloaded and
installed on the server and the clients. My virus software (Trend) is upto
date.

However, my client PCs are still losing their connections. As soon as one
can't connect then I find that the others can't connect either.

Everything was fine until I downloaded the first Microsoft patches - it's
all gone TU since I installed them.

I've swapped NICs between machines (should I buy and install new ones?).

FYI, my original post is reproduced below.

Does anyone have any ideas.

Regards
Andy Wiggins

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Original post:

I've been having problems with my SBS2000 setup since downloading
Microsoft's upgrades relating to MsBlast.

Every so often, my client PCs lose their connection to the server. In
Explorer I get a red X across the drive so, for example, when I click on my
K drive I get the message "K:\ drive is not accessible. The networkpath was
not found". Clicking on the drive letters several times does not get back
the connection so I don't think it's the time-out issue I've read about.

It's not always every PC on the network that loses the connection but, more
often than not, it is.

The only way that I seem to be able to get around it is by rebooting all the
machines, starting with the server.

I haven't noticed that I am doing, or using, anything unusual in the sense
that the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is as a result
of the Microsoft upgrade (coincidence?).

I'm running SBS2000 with a maximum of four client PCs. The server has one
NIC and has the ADSL modem attached. Three of the PCs run Windows 2000 and
the fourth runs Windows 98. The latter was not on this morning when the
latest two events happened.

Marina
Fri Sep 19 18:00:10 CDT 2003

How exactly have you got the ADSL connected if you only have 1 nic in the
server?
Can you give us the ipconfig/all from the server and one from a client?
Got WINS installed on the server (w98 needs it)?
Got options 003, 006, 015, 044 and 046 (0x8) set in DHCP-server?
You might try the regedits in 292822, certainly if you're using RRAS.

Marina

"Andy Wiggins" <ngroups@bygsoftware.com> schreef in bericht
news:uU5fRqvfDHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> A few weeks ago I posted a question "Client PCs lose their connection to
the
> server".
>
> Marina Roos was kind enough to help :-) and as a result I found the
> "welchia" virus on the server :-(
>
> Everything is now clean. All the latest patches have been downloaded and
> installed on the server and the clients. My virus software (Trend) is upto
> date.
>
> However, my client PCs are still losing their connections. As soon as one
> can't connect then I find that the others can't connect either.
>
> Everything was fine until I downloaded the first Microsoft patches - it's
> all gone TU since I installed them.
>
> I've swapped NICs between machines (should I buy and install new ones?).
>
> FYI, my original post is reproduced below.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas.
>
> Regards
> Andy Wiggins
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Original post:
>
> I've been having problems with my SBS2000 setup since downloading
> Microsoft's upgrades relating to MsBlast.
>
> Every so often, my client PCs lose their connection to the server. In
> Explorer I get a red X across the drive so, for example, when I click on
my
> K drive I get the message "K:\ drive is not accessible. The networkpath
was
> not found". Clicking on the drive letters several times does not get back
> the connection so I don't think it's the time-out issue I've read about.
>
> It's not always every PC on the network that loses the connection but,
more
> often than not, it is.
>
> The only way that I seem to be able to get around it is by rebooting all
the
> machines, starting with the server.
>
> I haven't noticed that I am doing, or using, anything unusual in the sense
> that the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is as a
result
> of the Microsoft upgrade (coincidence?).
>
> I'm running SBS2000 with a maximum of four client PCs. The server has one
> NIC and has the ADSL modem attached. Three of the PCs run Windows 2000 and
> the fourth runs Windows 98. The latter was not on this morning when the
> latest two events happened.
>
>

jimbehning
Fri Sep 19 22:27:51 CDT 2003

Two nics works great. One can be iffy. What nics are you using? What
network hub or switch are you using. Is all your network cable in the
walls and the patch cables all labled as Cat5 or higher? Marina has
all the other questions covered.

go to command prompt and type ipconfig/all from the server. Right
click on command prompt title bar and chose edit and mark. Use the
left mouse and mark all the text to save. Click on the title bar again
and choose edit and copy. Open notepad and paste.

"Marina Roos" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote:

>How exactly have you got the ADSL connected if you only have 1 nic in the
>server?
>Can you give us the ipconfig/all from the server and one from a client?
>Got WINS installed on the server (w98 needs it)?
>Got options 003, 006, 015, 044 and 046 (0x8) set in DHCP-server?
>You might try the regedits in 292822, certainly if you're using RRAS.
>
>Marina
>
>"Andy Wiggins" <ngroups@bygsoftware.com> schreef in bericht
>news:uU5fRqvfDHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> A few weeks ago I posted a question "Client PCs lose their connection to
>the
>> server".
>>
>> Marina Roos was kind enough to help :-) and as a result I found the
>> "welchia" virus on the server :-(
>>
>> Everything is now clean. All the latest patches have been downloaded and
>> installed on the server and the clients. My virus software (Trend) is upto
>> date.
>>
>> However, my client PCs are still losing their connections. As soon as one
>> can't connect then I find that the others can't connect either.
>>
>> Everything was fine until I downloaded the first Microsoft patches - it's
>> all gone TU since I installed them.
>>
>> I've swapped NICs between machines (should I buy and install new ones?).
>>
>> FYI, my original post is reproduced below.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas.
>>
>> Regards
>> Andy Wiggins
>>
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> Original post:
>>
>> I've been having problems with my SBS2000 setup since downloading
>> Microsoft's upgrades relating to MsBlast.
>>
>> Every so often, my client PCs lose their connection to the server. In
>> Explorer I get a red X across the drive so, for example, when I click on
>my
>> K drive I get the message "K:\ drive is not accessible. The networkpath
>was
>> not found". Clicking on the drive letters several times does not get back
>> the connection so I don't think it's the time-out issue I've read about.
>>
>> It's not always every PC on the network that loses the connection but,
>more
>> often than not, it is.
>>
>> The only way that I seem to be able to get around it is by rebooting all
>the
>> machines, starting with the server.
>>
>> I haven't noticed that I am doing, or using, anything unusual in the sense
>> that the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is as a
>result
>> of the Microsoft upgrade (coincidence?).
>>
>> I'm running SBS2000 with a maximum of four client PCs. The server has one
>> NIC and has the ADSL modem attached. Three of the PCs run Windows 2000 and
>> the fourth runs Windows 98. The latter was not on this morning when the
>> latest two events happened.
>>
>>
>

Jim B. SBS MVP

Andy
Sat Sep 20 06:03:59 CDT 2003

Hi Marina and Jim,

A small piece of backgound. There are a couple of us. Networking is not what
we do (shows, doesn't it) so we are working in the dark when it comes to
this. We have been considering moving away from using SBS mainly because of
these problems, but currently, on balance, it's too useful for web-testing
that we have to do before uploading.

I think WINS is installed.
Sorry Marina but the "003, 006, 015, 044 and 046 (0x8) set in DHCP-server"
needs a little more explanation :-(

The ADSL modem is attached to a USB port.
Network NICs and hub are all NetGear.
All cables are Cat5
The server and two of the clients sit, more or less, next to each other so
the cabling is floating under the desks.
The other client PC is in another room and is rarely used. The cable is
channelled as best we can in this old building.

Here are the ipconfig /all listings.
I took three from the server: one after it last stopped responding, one
after reboot with no clients and one with a client (W2000) attached. They
were all the same so only the latest is listed:

Server:
========
C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bygone
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : byg.home
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : byg.home

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethernet
Adapter (NGRPCI)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-CC-64-5F-F3
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2

PPP adapter Alcatel Speedtouch Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.107.226.162
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 81.107.255.254
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.168.4.100
194.168.8.100

Client
=====

C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SLEEPY
Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : byg.home
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : byg.home

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR FA311 Fast Ethernet PCI
Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-E3-18-89-3F
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.21
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 20 September 2003 11:34:24
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 28 September 2003 11:34:24

= = = = = = = =

TIA

Regards
Andy



<jimbehning@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:j5inmvo1l3tv2sqnl13nifiliut75a7p55@4ax.com...
> Two nics works great. One can be iffy. What nics are you using? What
> network hub or switch are you using. Is all your network cable in the
> walls and the patch cables all labled as Cat5 or higher? Marina has
> all the other questions covered.
>
> go to command prompt and type ipconfig/all from the server. Right
> click on command prompt title bar and chose edit and mark. Use the
> left mouse and mark all the text to save. Click on the title bar again
> and choose edit and copy. Open notepad and paste.
>
> "Marina Roos" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote:
>
> >How exactly have you got the ADSL connected if you only have 1 nic in the
> >server?
> >Can you give us the ipconfig/all from the server and one from a client?
> >Got WINS installed on the server (w98 needs it)?
> >Got options 003, 006, 015, 044 and 046 (0x8) set in DHCP-server?
> >You might try the regedits in 292822, certainly if you're using RRAS.
> >
> >Marina
> >
> >"Andy Wiggins" <ngroups@bygsoftware.com> schreef in bericht
> >news:uU5fRqvfDHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> A few weeks ago I posted a question "Client PCs lose their connection
to
> >the
> >> server".
> >>
> >> Marina Roos was kind enough to help :-) and as a result I found the
> >> "welchia" virus on the server :-(
> >>
> >> Everything is now clean. All the latest patches have been downloaded
and
> >> installed on the server and the clients. My virus software (Trend) is
upto
> >> date.
> >>
> >> However, my client PCs are still losing their connections. As soon as
one
> >> can't connect then I find that the others can't connect either.
> >>
> >> Everything was fine until I downloaded the first Microsoft patches -
it's
> >> all gone TU since I installed them.
> >>
> >> I've swapped NICs between machines (should I buy and install new
ones?).
> >>
> >> FYI, my original post is reproduced below.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any ideas.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Andy Wiggins
> >>
> >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >> Original post:
> >>
> >> I've been having problems with my SBS2000 setup since downloading
> >> Microsoft's upgrades relating to MsBlast.
> >>
> >> Every so often, my client PCs lose their connection to the server. In
> >> Explorer I get a red X across the drive so, for example, when I click
on
> >my
> >> K drive I get the message "K:\ drive is not accessible. The networkpath
> >was
> >> not found". Clicking on the drive letters several times does not get
back
> >> the connection so I don't think it's the time-out issue I've read
about.
> >>
> >> It's not always every PC on the network that loses the connection but,
> >more
> >> often than not, it is.
> >>
> >> The only way that I seem to be able to get around it is by rebooting
all
> >the
> >> machines, starting with the server.
> >>
> >> I haven't noticed that I am doing, or using, anything unusual in the
sense
> >> that the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is as a
> >result
> >> of the Microsoft upgrade (coincidence?).
> >>
> >> I'm running SBS2000 with a maximum of four client PCs. The server has
one
> >> NIC and has the ADSL modem attached. Three of the PCs run Windows 2000
and
> >> the fourth runs Windows 98. The latter was not on this morning when the
> >> latest two events happened.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> Jim B. SBS MVP

Marina
Sat Sep 20 06:28:01 CDT 2003

In DHCP-server (SBS-console, Computermanagement, Services) you set the
Scope, Reservations and Options. I was talking about these options. 003
point to your router (when 2 nics, it will always point to your server-IP,
when 1 nic it point to your gateway), 006 and 044 point to your server-IP as
well, 015 will be your local domainname, something like company.local and
the 046 should be set top 0x8.

DNS on your PPP-adapter is not good. It should point to your server-IP.
In your DNS-server you should put the ISP-DNS-numbers on the tab Forwarders.

Marina

"Andy Wiggins" <ngroups@bygsoftware.com> schreef in bericht
news:eE97sb2fDHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi Marina and Jim,
>
> A small piece of backgound. There are a couple of us. Networking is not
what
> we do (shows, doesn't it) so we are working in the dark when it comes to
> this. We have been considering moving away from using SBS mainly because
of
> these problems, but currently, on balance, it's too useful for web-testing
> that we have to do before uploading.
>
> I think WINS is installed.
> Sorry Marina but the "003, 006, 015, 044 and 046 (0x8) set in DHCP-server"
> needs a little more explanation :-(
>
> The ADSL modem is attached to a USB port.
> Network NICs and hub are all NetGear.
> All cables are Cat5
> The server and two of the clients sit, more or less, next to each other so
> the cabling is floating under the desks.
> The other client PC is in another room and is rarely used. The cable is
> channelled as best we can in this old building.
>
> Here are the ipconfig /all listings.
> I took three from the server: one after it last stopped responding, one
> after reboot with no clients and one with a client (W2000) attached. They
> were all the same so only the latest is listed:
>
> Server:
> ========
> C:\>ipconfig /all
>
> Windows 2000 IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bygone
> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : byg.home
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : byg.home
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethernet
> Adapter (NGRPCI)
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-CC-64-5F-F3
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>
> PPP adapter Alcatel Speedtouch Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.107.226.162
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 81.107.255.254
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.168.4.100
> 194.168.8.100
>
> Client
> =====
>
> C:\>ipconfig /all
>
> Windows 2000 IP Configuration
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SLEEPY
> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : byg.home
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : byg.home
>
> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>
> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR FA311 Fast Ethernet
PCI
> Adapter
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-E3-18-89-3F
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.21
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 20 September 2003 11:34:24
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 28 September 2003 11:34:24
>
> = = = = = = = =
>
> TIA
>
> Regards
> Andy
>
>
>
> <jimbehning@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:j5inmvo1l3tv2sqnl13nifiliut75a7p55@4ax.com...
> > Two nics works great. One can be iffy. What nics are you using? What
> > network hub or switch are you using. Is all your network cable in the
> > walls and the patch cables all labled as Cat5 or higher? Marina has
> > all the other questions covered.
> >
> > go to command prompt and type ipconfig/all from the server. Right
> > click on command prompt title bar and chose edit and mark. Use the
> > left mouse and mark all the text to save. Click on the title bar again
> > and choose edit and copy. Open notepad and paste.
> >
> > "Marina Roos" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote:
> >
> > >How exactly have you got the ADSL connected if you only have 1 nic in
the
> > >server?
> > >Can you give us the ipconfig/all from the server and one from a client?
> > >Got WINS installed on the server (w98 needs it)?
> > >Got options 003, 006, 015, 044 and 046 (0x8) set in DHCP-server?
> > >You might try the regedits in 292822, certainly if you're using RRAS.
> > >
> > >Marina
> > >
> > >"Andy Wiggins" <ngroups@bygsoftware.com> schreef in bericht
> > >news:uU5fRqvfDHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> A few weeks ago I posted a question "Client PCs lose their connection
> to
> > >the
> > >> server".
> > >>
> > >> Marina Roos was kind enough to help :-) and as a result I found the
> > >> "welchia" virus on the server :-(
> > >>
> > >> Everything is now clean. All the latest patches have been downloaded
> and
> > >> installed on the server and the clients. My virus software (Trend) is
> upto
> > >> date.
> > >>
> > >> However, my client PCs are still losing their connections. As soon as
> one
> > >> can't connect then I find that the others can't connect either.
> > >>
> > >> Everything was fine until I downloaded the first Microsoft patches -
> it's
> > >> all gone TU since I installed them.
> > >>
> > >> I've swapped NICs between machines (should I buy and install new
> ones?).
> > >>
> > >> FYI, my original post is reproduced below.
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone have any ideas.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >> Andy Wiggins
> > >>
> > >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > >> Original post:
> > >>
> > >> I've been having problems with my SBS2000 setup since downloading
> > >> Microsoft's upgrades relating to MsBlast.
> > >>
> > >> Every so often, my client PCs lose their connection to the server. In
> > >> Explorer I get a red X across the drive so, for example, when I click
> on
> > >my
> > >> K drive I get the message "K:\ drive is not accessible. The
networkpath
> > >was
> > >> not found". Clicking on the drive letters several times does not get
> back
> > >> the connection so I don't think it's the time-out issue I've read
> about.
> > >>
> > >> It's not always every PC on the network that loses the connection
but,
> > >more
> > >> often than not, it is.
> > >>
> > >> The only way that I seem to be able to get around it is by rebooting
> all
> > >the
> > >> machines, starting with the server.
> > >>
> > >> I haven't noticed that I am doing, or using, anything unusual in the
> sense
> > >> that the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is as a
> > >result
> > >> of the Microsoft upgrade (coincidence?).
> > >>
> > >> I'm running SBS2000 with a maximum of four client PCs. The server has
> one
> > >> NIC and has the ADSL modem attached. Three of the PCs run Windows
2000
> and
> > >> the fourth runs Windows 98. The latter was not on this morning when
the
> > >> latest two events happened.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> > Jim B. SBS MVP
>
>

Andy
Sat Sep 20 07:57:06 CDT 2003

046 was set to 0x1. I've set it to 0x8. What is the effect of this?
015 is not set.

What does "DNS on your PPP-adapter is not good" mean? Are you saying that
Microsoft's default settings are not correct?

> In your DNS-server you should put the ISP-DNS-numbers on the tab
Forwarders.
We do not have a static IP address - the IP DNS numbers change each time we
reconnect.

--

Regards
Andy


"Marina Roos" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in message
news:5RWab.106984$506.106910@typhoon.bart.nl...
> In DHCP-server (SBS-console, Computermanagement, Services) you set the
> Scope, Reservations and Options. I was talking about these options. 003
> point to your router (when 2 nics, it will always point to your server-IP,
> when 1 nic it point to your gateway), 006 and 044 point to your server-IP
as
> well, 015 will be your local domainname, something like company.local and
> the 046 should be set top 0x8.
>
> DNS on your PPP-adapter is not good. It should point to your server-IP.
> In your DNS-server you should put the ISP-DNS-numbers on the tab
Forwarders.
>
> Marina
>
> "Andy Wiggins" <ngroups@bygsoftware.com> schreef in bericht
> news:eE97sb2fDHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Marina and Jim,
> >
> > A small piece of backgound. There are a couple of us. Networking is not
> what
> > we do (shows, doesn't it) so we are working in the dark when it comes to
> > this. We have been considering moving away from using SBS mainly because
> of
> > these problems, but currently, on balance, it's too useful for
web-testing
> > that we have to do before uploading.
> >
> > I think WINS is installed.
> > Sorry Marina but the "003, 006, 015, 044 and 046 (0x8) set in
DHCP-server"
> > needs a little more explanation :-(
> >
> > The ADSL modem is attached to a USB port.
> > Network NICs and hub are all NetGear.
> > All cables are Cat5
> > The server and two of the clients sit, more or less, next to each other
so
> > the cabling is floating under the desks.
> > The other client PC is in another room and is rarely used. The cable is
> > channelled as best we can in this old building.
> >
> > Here are the ipconfig /all listings.
> > I took three from the server: one after it last stopped responding, one
> > after reboot with no clients and one with a client (W2000) attached.
They
> > were all the same so only the latest is listed:
> >
> > Server:
> > ========
> > C:\>ipconfig /all
> >
> > Windows 2000 IP Configuration
> >
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bygone
> > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : byg.home
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : byg.home
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR FA310TX Fast
Ethernet
> > Adapter (NGRPCI)
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-CC-64-5F-F3
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> >
> > PPP adapter Alcatel Speedtouch Connection:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.107.226.162
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 81.107.255.254
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.168.4.100
> > 194.168.8.100
> >
> > Client
> > =====
> >
> > C:\>ipconfig /all
> >
> > Windows 2000 IP Configuration
> >
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SLEEPY
> > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : byg.home
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : byg.home
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR FA311 Fast Ethernet
> PCI
> > Adapter
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-E3-18-89-3F
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.21
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 20 September 2003 11:34:24
> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 28 September 2003 11:34:24
> >
> > = = = = = = = =
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Regards
> > Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > <jimbehning@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:j5inmvo1l3tv2sqnl13nifiliut75a7p55@4ax.com...
> > > Two nics works great. One can be iffy. What nics are you using? What
> > > network hub or switch are you using. Is all your network cable in the
> > > walls and the patch cables all labled as Cat5 or higher? Marina has
> > > all the other questions covered.
> > >
> > > go to command prompt and type ipconfig/all from the server. Right
> > > click on command prompt title bar and chose edit and mark. Use the
> > > left mouse and mark all the text to save. Click on the title bar again
> > > and choose edit and copy. Open notepad and paste.
> > >
> > > "Marina Roos" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >How exactly have you got the ADSL connected if you only have 1 nic in
> the
> > > >server?
> > > >Can you give us the ipconfig/all from the server and one from a
client?
> > > >Got WINS installed on the server (w98 needs it)?
> > > >Got options 003, 006, 015, 044 and 046 (0x8) set in DHCP-server?
> > > >You might try the regedits in 292822, certainly if you're using RRAS.
> > > >
> > > >Marina
> > > >
> > > >"Andy Wiggins" <ngroups@bygsoftware.com> schreef in bericht
> > > >news:uU5fRqvfDHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> A few weeks ago I posted a question "Client PCs lose their
connection
> > to
> > > >the
> > > >> server".
> > > >>
> > > >> Marina Roos was kind enough to help :-) and as a result I found the
> > > >> "welchia" virus on the server :-(
> > > >>
> > > >> Everything is now clean. All the latest patches have been
downloaded
> > and
> > > >> installed on the server and the clients. My virus software (Trend)
is
> > upto
> > > >> date.
> > > >>
> > > >> However, my client PCs are still losing their connections. As soon
as
> > one
> > > >> can't connect then I find that the others can't connect either.
> > > >>
> > > >> Everything was fine until I downloaded the first Microsoft
patches -
> > it's
> > > >> all gone TU since I installed them.
> > > >>
> > > >> I've swapped NICs between machines (should I buy and install new
> > ones?).
> > > >>
> > > >> FYI, my original post is reproduced below.
> > > >>
> > > >> Does anyone have any ideas.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >> Andy Wiggins
> > > >>
> > > >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > >> Original post:
> > > >>
> > > >> I've been having problems with my SBS2000 setup since downloading
> > > >> Microsoft's upgrades relating to MsBlast.
> > > >>
> > > >> Every so often, my client PCs lose their connection to the server.
In
> > > >> Explorer I get a red X across the drive so, for example, when I
click
> > on
> > > >my
> > > >> K drive I get the message "K:\ drive is not accessible. The
> networkpath
> > > >was
> > > >> not found". Clicking on the drive letters several times does not
get
> > back
> > > >> the connection so I don't think it's the time-out issue I've read
> > about.
> > > >>
> > > >> It's not always every PC on the network that loses the connection
> but,
> > > >more
> > > >> often than not, it is.
> > > >>
> > > >> The only way that I seem to be able to get around it is by
rebooting
> > all
> > > >the
> > > >> machines, starting with the server.
> > > >>
> > > >> I haven't noticed that I am doing, or using, anything unusual in
the
> > sense
> > > >> that the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is as
a
> > > >result
> > > >> of the Microsoft upgrade (coincidence?).
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm running SBS2000 with a maximum of four client PCs. The server
has
> > one
> > > >> NIC and has the ADSL modem attached. Three of the PCs run Windows
> 2000
> > and
> > > >> the fourth runs Windows 98. The latter was not on this morning when
> the
> > > >> latest two events happened.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > > Jim B. SBS MVP
> >
> >
>
>

jimbehning
Sat Sep 20 08:03:18 CDT 2003

I suspect that the usb connection does not have anywhere that you can
set the dns. That connection is basically just like a modem.

Is the Netgear hub staying cool. I am not a fan of Netgear hubs and
switches but more than a few SBS MVPs that I respect use them
successfully so I may have just had some bad luck. I would try getting
a basic 3Com OfficeConnect switch just to make sure it is not a
problem with the switch.

What service packs are you at on the workstations and the server? For
the OS I have SP4 for Windows 2000.

Here is an article I used once at a site but it did not fix the
problem. Actually it helped the Windows 2000 Pro workstations but it
did not help theME workstation. Installing an HP switch did replacing
a Netgear switch.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;138365&Product=sbs

"Marina Roos" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote:

>In DHCP-server (SBS-console, Computermanagement, Services) you set the
>Scope, Reservations and Options. I was talking about these options. 003
>point to your router (when 2 nics, it will always point to your server-IP,
>when 1 nic it point to your gateway), 006 and 044 point to your server-IP as
>well, 015 will be your local domainname, something like company.local and
>the 046 should be set top 0x8.
>
>DNS on your PPP-adapter is not good. It should point to your server-IP.
>In your DNS-server you should put the ISP-DNS-numbers on the tab Forwarders.
>
>Marina
>
>"Andy Wiggins" <ngroups@bygsoftware.com> schreef in bericht
>news:eE97sb2fDHA.3616@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Marina and Jim,
>>
>> A small piece of backgound. There are a couple of us. Networking is not
>what
>> we do (shows, doesn't it) so we are working in the dark when it comes to
>> this. We have been considering moving away from using SBS mainly because
>of
>> these problems, but currently, on balance, it's too useful for web-testing
>> that we have to do before uploading.
>>
>> I think WINS is installed.
>> Sorry Marina but the "003, 006, 015, 044 and 046 (0x8) set in DHCP-server"
>> needs a little more explanation :-(
>>
>> The ADSL modem is attached to a USB port.
>> Network NICs and hub are all NetGear.
>> All cables are Cat5
>> The server and two of the clients sit, more or less, next to each other so
>> the cabling is floating under the desks.
>> The other client PC is in another room and is rarely used. The cable is
>> channelled as best we can in this old building.
>>
>> Here are the ipconfig /all listings.
>> I took three from the server: one after it last stopped responding, one
>> after reboot with no clients and one with a client (W2000) attached. They
>> were all the same so only the latest is listed:
>>
>> Server:
>> ========
>> C:\>ipconfig /all
>>
>> Windows 2000 IP Configuration
>>
>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : bygone
>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : byg.home
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : byg.home
>>
>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>>
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR FA310TX Fast Ethernet
>> Adapter (NGRPCI)
>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-A0-CC-64-5F-F3
>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>>
>> PPP adapter Alcatel Speedtouch Connection:
>>
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.107.226.162
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 81.107.255.254
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 194.168.4.100
>> 194.168.8.100
>>
>> Client
>> =====
>>
>> C:\>ipconfig /all
>>
>> Windows 2000 IP Configuration
>>
>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SLEEPY
>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : byg.home
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : byg.home
>>
>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>>
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR FA311 Fast Ethernet
>PCI
>> Adapter
>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-E3-18-89-3F
>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.21
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 20 September 2003 11:34:24
>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 28 September 2003 11:34:24
>>
>> = = = = = = = =
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Regards
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>> <jimbehning@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:j5inmvo1l3tv2sqnl13nifiliut75a7p55@4ax.com...
>> > Two nics works great. One can be iffy. What nics are you using? What
>> > network hub or switch are you using. Is all your network cable in the
>> > walls and the patch cables all labled as Cat5 or higher? Marina has
>> > all the other questions covered.
>> >
>> > go to command prompt and type ipconfig/all from the server. Right
>> > click on command prompt title bar and chose edit and mark. Use the
>> > left mouse and mark all the text to save. Click on the title bar again
>> > and choose edit and copy. Open notepad and paste.
>> >
>> > "Marina Roos" <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >How exactly have you got the ADSL connected if you only have 1 nic in
>the
>> > >server?
>> > >Can you give us the ipconfig/all from the server and one from a client?
>> > >Got WINS installed on the server (w98 needs it)?
>> > >Got options 003, 006, 015, 044 and 046 (0x8) set in DHCP-server?
>> > >You might try the regedits in 292822, certainly if you're using RRAS.
>> > >
>> > >Marina
>> > >
>> > >"Andy Wiggins" <ngroups@bygsoftware.com> schreef in bericht
>> > >news:uU5fRqvfDHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > >> Hi,
>> > >>
>> > >> A few weeks ago I posted a question "Client PCs lose their connection
>> to
>> > >the
>> > >> server".
>> > >>
>> > >> Marina Roos was kind enough to help :-) and as a result I found the
>> > >> "welchia" virus on the server :-(
>> > >>
>> > >> Everything is now clean. All the latest patches have been downloaded
>> and
>> > >> installed on the server and the clients. My virus software (Trend) is
>> upto
>> > >> date.
>> > >>
>> > >> However, my client PCs are still losing their connections. As soon as
>> one
>> > >> can't connect then I find that the others can't connect either.
>> > >>
>> > >> Everything was fine until I downloaded the first Microsoft patches -
>> it's
>> > >> all gone TU since I installed them.
>> > >>
>> > >> I've swapped NICs between machines (should I buy and install new
>> ones?).
>> > >>
>> > >> FYI, my original post is reproduced below.
>> > >>
>> > >> Does anyone have any ideas.
>> > >>
>> > >> Regards
>> > >> Andy Wiggins
>> > >>
>> > >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> > >> Original post:
>> > >>
>> > >> I've been having problems with my SBS2000 setup since downloading
>> > >> Microsoft's upgrades relating to MsBlast.
>> > >>
>> > >> Every so often, my client PCs lose their connection to the server. In
>> > >> Explorer I get a red X across the drive so, for example, when I click
>> on
>> > >my
>> > >> K drive I get the message "K:\ drive is not accessible. The
>networkpath
>> > >was
>> > >> not found". Clicking on the drive letters several times does not get
>> back
>> > >> the connection so I don't think it's the time-out issue I've read
>> about.
>> > >>
>> > >> It's not always every PC on the network that loses the connection
>but,
>> > >more
>> > >> often than not, it is.
>> > >>
>> > >> The only way that I seem to be able to get around it is by rebooting
>> all
>> > >the
>> > >> machines, starting with the server.
>> > >>
>> > >> I haven't noticed that I am doing, or using, anything unusual in the
>> sense
>> > >> that the only thing that has changed over the last few weeks is as a
>> > >result
>> > >> of the Microsoft upgrade (coincidence?).
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm running SBS2000 with a maximum of four client PCs. The server has
>> one
>> > >> NIC and has the ADSL modem attached. Three of the PCs run Windows
>2000
>> and
>> > >> the fourth runs Windows 98. The latter was not on this morning when
>the
>> > >> latest two events happened.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
>> > Jim B. SBS MVP
>>
>>
>

Jim B. SBS MVP

Andy
Sat Sep 20 08:21:44 CDT 2003

Yes, the Netgear hub is staying cool (unlike me - I'm getting hot under the
collar). In fact I bought a new one a few weeks ago thinking that it might
have been the cause of the problem - alas, no - unless I've got two rogues.

All machines are up to date with all service packs. Recently I've been
visiting Microsoft almost day to ensure that I'm up to date (Just been there
again - it tells me "There are no critical updates available at this time")

Andy


<jimbehning@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:kljomvg8p5a8dqs9cbob1scc3o1ji7li3f@4ax.com...
> I suspect that the usb connection does not have anywhere that you can
> set the dns. That connection is basically just like a modem.
>
> Is the Netgear hub staying cool. I am not a fan of Netgear hubs and
> switches but more than a few SBS MVPs that I respect use them
> successfully so I may have just had some bad luck. I would try getting
> a basic 3Com OfficeConnect switch just to make sure it is not a
> problem with the switch.
>
> What service packs are you at on the workstations and the server? For
> the OS I have SP4 for Windows 2000.
>
> Here is an article I used once at a site but it did not fix the
> problem. Actually it helped the Windows 2000 Pro workstations but it
> did not help theME workstation. Installing an HP switch did replacing
> a Netgear switch.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;138365&Product=sbs
>

Henry
Sat Sep 20 09:14:34 CDT 2003

Have you checked the Server event logs after you lose the network ?
Any Hints ?
Have you checked if the DHCP Service has Stoped ?
If so can you restart it ?
Do you now see the PC's on the Network ?

What happens when you do an
IPconfig /release
IPconfig / renew
from a workstation when you lose connection to the network ?

Have you disabled the Computer Browser service on all Workstations ?
What do the event Logs on the Client's tell you ???

Have you checked the Task Manager for rogue services ?

It's always good to start with the basics. I've always found that making
assumptions about what caused an error to be the biggest error.

Henry Craven
--------------------
Porcupine 3.14159

Andy
Sat Sep 20 09:56:44 CDT 2003

We're not network experts. We use SBS because it helps with the web stuff we
do - testing things on the server before we publish - and it's also good for
file sharing and internet connection sharing. Beyond that we hoped never to
have to learn much else. Having said that, we realised we would learn as
"things happened" which we had to solve. The things Marina, Jim and you are
suggesting are taxing our brain cells to the point of asking why we are here
and isn't there a better way (become plumbers or accountants instead).

There are my excuses out of the way :-)

Is there anything I should be looking for in the Server event logs?
I'm not sure what the DHCP service is :-(

Didn't know about ipconfig /release and /renew so that's something I'll try
next time (which could be any minute now).

What's the computer browser service?
Where are the logs on the clients?

Everything was fine until we downloaded a Microsoft patch last month. Ever
since we've been having these horrors.

Thanks for your input, Henry. I'll try the things you've suggested, and
understand, next time the gremlins strike.

Regards
Andy


"Henry Craven" <IUnknown@D.COM> wrote in message
news:%23Z4BaF4fDHA.560@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Have you checked the Server event logs after you lose the network ?
> Any Hints ?
> Have you checked if the DHCP Service has Stoped ?
> If so can you restart it ?
> Do you now see the PC's on the Network ?
>
> What happens when you do an
> IPconfig /release
> IPconfig / renew
> from a workstation when you lose connection to the network ?
>
> Have you disabled the Computer Browser service on all Workstations ?
> What do the event Logs on the Client's tell you ???
>
> Have you checked the Task Manager for rogue services ?
>
> It's always good to start with the basics. I've always found that making
> assumptions about what caused an error to be the biggest error.
>
> Henry Craven
> --------------------
> Porcupine 3.14159
>
>

Merv
Sat Sep 20 10:29:36 CDT 2003

Do you know which patch caused the problem?

--
Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
===================================
"Andy Wiggins" <ngroups@bygsoftware.com> wrote in message
news:eHLpxd4fDHA.3284@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> We're not network experts. We use SBS because it helps with the web stuff
we
> do - testing things on the server before we publish - and it's also good
for
> file sharing and internet connection sharing. Beyond that we hoped never
to
> have to learn much else. Having said that, we realised we would learn as
> "things happened" which we had to solve. The things Marina, Jim and you
are
> suggesting are taxing our brain cells to the point of asking why we are
here
> and isn't there a better way (become plumbers or accountants instead).
>
> There are my excuses out of the way :-)
>
> Is there anything I should be looking for in the Server event logs?
> I'm not sure what the DHCP service is :-(
>
> Didn't know about ipconfig /release and /renew so that's something I'll
try
> next time (which could be any minute now).
>
> What's the computer browser service?
> Where are the logs on the clients?
>
> Everything was fine until we downloaded a Microsoft patch last month. Ever
> since we've been having these horrors.
>
> Thanks for your input, Henry. I'll try the things you've suggested, and
> understand, next time the gremlins strike.
>
> Regards
> Andy
>
>
> "Henry Craven" <IUnknown@D.COM> wrote in message
> news:%23Z4BaF4fDHA.560@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Have you checked the Server event logs after you lose the network ?
> > Any Hints ?
> > Have you checked if the DHCP Service has Stoped ?
> > If so can you restart it ?
> > Do you now see the PC's on the Network ?
> >
> > What happens when you do an
> > IPconfig /release
> > IPconfig / renew
> > from a workstation when you lose connection to the network ?
> >
> > Have you disabled the Computer Browser service on all Workstations ?
> > What do the event Logs on the Client's tell you ???
> >
> > Have you checked the Task Manager for rogue services ?
> >
> > It's always good to start with the basics. I've always found that making
> > assumptions about what caused an error to be the biggest error.
> >
> > Henry Craven
> > --------------------
> > Porcupine 3.14159
> >
> >
>
>

Andy
Sat Sep 20 10:41:05 CDT 2003

I'm not saying it was the patch that caused the problem, just that my
problems started occurring soon after.

I can't remember the exact patch. I do remember reading an article on the
BBC News web-site (early August perhaps) about MsBlast and as a result of
that decided to check and update as necessary.

Regards
Andy


"Merv Porter" <mwport@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:exB5tv4fDHA.3228@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Do you know which patch caused the problem?
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
> ===================================
> "Andy Wiggins" <ngroups@bygsoftware.com> wrote in message
> news:eHLpxd4fDHA.3284@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > We're not network experts. We use SBS because it helps with the web
stuff
> we
> > do - testing things on the server before we publish - and it's also good
> for
> > file sharing and internet connection sharing. Beyond that we hoped never
> to
> > have to learn much else. Having said that, we realised we would learn as
> > "things happened" which we had to solve. The things Marina, Jim and you
> are
> > suggesting are taxing our brain cells to the point of asking why we are
> here
> > and isn't there a better way (become plumbers or accountants instead).
> >
> > There are my excuses out of the way :-)
> >
> > Is there anything I should be looking for in the Server event logs?
> > I'm not sure what the DHCP service is :-(
> >
> > Didn't know about ipconfig /release and /renew so that's something I'll
> try
> > next time (which could be any minute now).
> >
> > What's the computer browser service?
> > Where are the logs on the clients?
> >
> > Everything was fine until we downloaded a Microsoft patch last month.
Ever
> > since we've been having these horrors.
> >
> > Thanks for your input, Henry. I'll try the things you've suggested, and
> > understand, next time the gremlins strike.
> >
> > Regards
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > "Henry Craven" <IUnknown@D.COM> wrote in message
> > news:%23Z4BaF4fDHA.560@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Have you checked the Server event logs after you lose the network ?
> > > Any Hints ?
> > > Have you checked if the DHCP Service has Stoped ?
> > > If so can you restart it ?
> > > Do you now see the PC's on the Network ?
> > >
> > > What happens when you do an
> > > IPconfig /release
> > > IPconfig / renew
> > > from a workstation when you lose connection to the network ?
> > >
> > > Have you disabled the Computer Browser service on all Workstations ?
> > > What do the event Logs on the Client's tell you ???
> > >
> > > Have you checked the Task Manager for rogue services ?
> > >
> > > It's always good to start with the basics. I've always found that
making
> > > assumptions about what caused an error to be the biggest error.
> > >
> > > Henry Craven
> > > --------------------
> > > Porcupine 3.14159
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Henry
Sat Sep 20 15:56:35 CDT 2003

Inline .....

"Andy Wiggins" <ngroups@bygsoftware.com> wrote in message
news:eHLpxd4fDHA.3284@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> We're not network experts. We use SBS because it helps with the web stuff
we
> do - testing things on the server before we publish - and it's also good
for
> file sharing and internet connection sharing. Beyond that we hoped never
to
> have to learn much else. Having said that, we realised we would learn as
> "things happened" which we had to solve. The things Marina, Jim and you
are
> suggesting are taxing our brain cells to the point of asking why we are
here
> and isn't there a better way (become plumbers or accountants instead).

I ask myself the same thing each time there is a change too !
i.e. Daily. ( but in my case it's bricklayer, as they have been doing it
the same way since they built the Pyramids. ) However it's the world we live
in. I no longer fix my own car, but have to take it in to a diagnostic
centre where they plug it in and read the dials and graphs and use a whole
bunch of tools I've never seen before. It's the way it is.

> There are my excuses out of the way :-)

No excuse needed. we all have to start somewhere, and none of us learned
it in the womb by osmosis.

> Is there anything I should be looking for in the Server event logs?

Critical events immediately before, or at the time you lost the network
for a start. ( Critical events generally need to be addressed eventually )

> I'm not sure what the DHCP service is :-(

The Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) is an Internet protocol
for automating the configuration of computers that use TCP/IP. DHCP can be
used to automatically assign IP addresses, to deliver TCP/IP stack
configuration parameters such as the subnet mask and default router, and to
provide other configuration information such as the addresses for printer,
time and news servers.

That's the definition. If you're asking where to find out if the service
is running, then Right Mouse Click on "My Computer" ( yes I know I'm too far
away, but click on -your- "My Computer" :-) ...bloody stupid name. :-) )
and select Manage. Expand Services and Applications. Select Services. In the
right pane you will se a list of services and their Status.
( ....this is on the 2K Machines not the Win98 )

On the server you will see the DHCP Server, and DHCP Client on the 2K
Workstations the DHCP Client.

You will also see Computer Browser and It's status. On the 2K W/Ss you
can Right Click this and Set the Start-up Property to Disabled.

> Didn't know about ipconfig /release and /renew so that's something I'll
try
> next time (which could be any minute now).
>
> What's the computer browser service?

The computer browser service maintains an up-to-date list of computers
on your network and supplies the list to programs that request it. This is
primarily in Peer to peer network as the Server fulfils this function on a
domain.

> Where are the logs on the clients?

Right Mouse click the "My Computer" Icon. Manage. System tools. Event
viewer.

> Everything was fine until we downloaded a Microsoft patch last month. Ever
> since we've been having these horrors.

Probably nothing that's not fixable, but it may take a bit of work and
time to nut out the cause of the problem and it's solution.
You could of course go to Add/Remove programmes and back out of all your
service packs and Patches to a previous state and then judiciously apply
each patch checking of your error re-occurs, and then post which patch
caused it, and someone may have knowledge of it, and a patch on the patch.
( Provided you elected to save the uninstall inf )

> Thanks for your input, Henry. I'll try the things you've suggested, and
> understand, next time the gremlins strike.
>
> Regards
> Andy

Hope it helps.

Henry Craven
---------------
Only 10 people understand Binary.
Those that do and those that don't.

Andy
Sun Sep 21 03:08:43 CDT 2003

Hi Henry,

Thank you for your input.

The major downside of all this is that the loss of connection is random so
I'll now have to wait for the next event before I can put any of the
suggestions made, so far, into practise and report back to the group.

Regards
Andy


"Henry Craven" <IUnknown@D.COM> wrote in message
news:OyKvQm7fDHA.3216@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Inline .....
>
> "Andy Wiggins" <ngroups@bygsoftware.com> wrote in message
> news:eHLpxd4fDHA.3284@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > We're not network experts. We use SBS because it helps with the web
stuff
> we
> > do - testing things on the server before we publish - and it's also good
> for
> > file sharing and internet connection sharing. Beyond that we hoped never
> to
> > have to learn much else. Having said that, we realised we would learn as
> > "things happened" which we had to solve. The things Marina, Jim and you
> are
> > suggesting are taxing our brain cells to the point of asking why we are
> here
> > and isn't there a better way (become plumbers or accountants instead).
>
> I ask myself the same thing each time there is a change too !
> i.e. Daily. ( but in my case it's bricklayer, as they have been doing
it
> the same way since they built the Pyramids. ) However it's the world we
live
> in. I no longer fix my own car, but have to take it in to a diagnostic
> centre where they plug it in and read the dials and graphs and use a whole
> bunch of tools I've never seen before. It's the way it is.
>
> > There are my excuses out of the way :-)
>
> No excuse needed. we all have to start somewhere, and none of us
learned
> it in the womb by osmosis.
>
> > Is there anything I should be looking for in the Server event logs?
>
> Critical events immediately before, or at the time you lost the
network
> for a start. ( Critical events generally need to be addressed eventually )
>
> > I'm not sure what the DHCP service is :-(
>
> The Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) is an Internet protocol
> for automating the configuration of computers that use TCP/IP. DHCP can be
> used to automatically assign IP addresses, to deliver TCP/IP stack
> configuration parameters such as the subnet mask and default router, and
to
> provide other configuration information such as the addresses for printer,
> time and news servers.
>
> That's the definition. If you're asking where to find out if the
service
> is running, then Right Mouse Click on "My Computer" ( yes I know I'm too
far
> away, but click on -your- "My Computer" :-) ...bloody stupid name. :-) )
> and select Manage. Expand Services and Applications. Select Services. In
the
> right pane you will se a list of services and their Status.
> ( ....this is on the 2K Machines not the Win98 )
>
> On the server you will see the DHCP Server, and DHCP Client on the 2K
> Workstations the DHCP Client.
>
> You will also see Computer Browser and It's status. On the 2K W/Ss
you
> can Right Click this and Set the Start-up Property to Disabled.
>
> > Didn't know about ipconfig /release and /renew so that's something I'll
> try
> > next time (which could be any minute now).
> >
> > What's the computer browser service?
>
> The computer browser service maintains an up-to-date list of computers
> on your network and supplies the list to programs that request it. This is
> primarily in Peer to peer network as the Server fulfils this function on a
> domain.
>
> > Where are the logs on the clients?
>
> Right Mouse click the "My Computer" Icon. Manage. System tools. Event
> viewer.
>
> > Everything was fine until we downloaded a Microsoft patch last month.
Ever
> > since we've been having these horrors.
>
> Probably nothing that's not fixable, but it may take a bit of work and
> time to nut out the cause of the problem and it's solution.
> You could of course go to Add/Remove programmes and back out of all
your
> service packs and Patches to a previous state and then judiciously apply
> each patch checking of your error re-occurs, and then post which patch
> caused it, and someone may have knowledge of it, and a patch on the patch.
> ( Provided you elected to save the uninstall inf )
>
> > Thanks for your input, Henry. I'll try the things you've suggested, and
> > understand, next time the gremlins strike.
> >
> > Regards
> > Andy
>
> Hope it helps.
>
> Henry Craven
> ---------------
> Only 10 people understand Binary.
> Those that do and those that don't.
>
>

Andy
Tue Sep 23 15:34:06 CDT 2003

> Have you checked the Server event logs after you lose the ne