Hello

I am going to be backing up our SBS server to a DAT or DLT. I am trying to
decide on backup software at the best cost.

Backupexec is a common one but comes with various add-ons for different
functions. A bit complicated.

The other I have looked at is Tapeware. They have a product called the
Small Business Server Pack. It appears easier and cheaper.

Questions.
Does anybody have any preferences ? If so why.
Is backup software bundled with backup devices these days ?
Does the "full" backup / disaster recovery (as indicated with HP
drives)....really work, and is it the software that does it ?

Thanks in advance.

Robert

Re: Backup Software Choice by Kevin

Kevin
Mon Sep 01 08:19:42 CDT 2003

is this a business server, or a home server?
are you running any SQL databases?
how big are your disk drives, and how much data do you currently have to
backup?

I would suggest that you get a tape drive with capacity to allow you to do a
full backup every night. IMO, most SBS sites drag their feet even in
accepting the fact that they have to change tapes. And if you are trying to
do incremental or differential backups during the week, you only have to
miss one day or reuse the wrong tape one time to throw everything into
disarray.

I keep it simple -- two sets of 5 tapes -- one set labeled Week 1 - Mondsay
through Friday, the second set labeled Week 2 - Monday through Friday.

There have been literally dozens, maybe hundreds, of posts in this NG in the
past year re: the issues (problems, opportunities, etc) with doing a bare
metal restore from a disaster recovery point of view. Bottom line is that
there are issues with short -vs- long file names that doesn't make such
recovery a 100% guarantee.

DLT is faster, more reliable and has more capacity than DAT. I usually use
DLT for my customer sites, but use DAT on my test server at home.

-kw


"Robert Morris" <rtmorris@datahouse-systems.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bius15$9gg$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
> Hello
>
> I am going to be backing up our SBS server to a DAT or DLT. I am trying
to
> decide on backup software at the best cost.
>
> Backupexec is a common one but comes with various add-ons for different
> functions. A bit complicated.
>
> The other I have looked at is Tapeware. They have a product called the
> Small Business Server Pack. It appears easier and cheaper.
>
> Questions.
> Does anybody have any preferences ? If so why.
> Is backup software bundled with backup devices these days ?
> Does the "full" backup / disaster recovery (as indicated with HP
> drives)....really work, and is it the software that does it ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>



Re: Backup Software Choice by Robert

Robert
Mon Sep 01 10:10:03 CDT 2003

Thanks for that

It is a business server with about 25 users
72Gb SCSI but no SQL (just the rest).

What about the software question? Is the Tapeware stuff ok ?

Thanks

Robert

"Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
news:eVGm0uIcDHA.1532@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> is this a business server, or a home server?
> are you running any SQL databases?
> how big are your disk drives, and how much data do you currently have to
> backup?
>
> I would suggest that you get a tape drive with capacity to allow you to do
a
> full backup every night. IMO, most SBS sites drag their feet even in
> accepting the fact that they have to change tapes. And if you are trying
to
> do incremental or differential backups during the week, you only have to
> miss one day or reuse the wrong tape one time to throw everything into
> disarray.
>
> I keep it simple -- two sets of 5 tapes -- one set labeled Week 1 -
Mondsay
> through Friday, the second set labeled Week 2 - Monday through Friday.
>
> There have been literally dozens, maybe hundreds, of posts in this NG in
the
> past year re: the issues (problems, opportunities, etc) with doing a bare
> metal restore from a disaster recovery point of view. Bottom line is that
> there are issues with short -vs- long file names that doesn't make such
> recovery a 100% guarantee.
>
> DLT is faster, more reliable and has more capacity than DAT. I usually
use
> DLT for my customer sites, but use DAT on my test server at home.
>
> -kw
>
>
> "Robert Morris" <rtmorris@datahouse-systems.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:bius15$9gg$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
> > Hello
> >
> > I am going to be backing up our SBS server to a DAT or DLT. I am trying
> to
> > decide on backup software at the best cost.
> >
> > Backupexec is a common one but comes with various add-ons for different
> > functions. A bit complicated.
> >
> > The other I have looked at is Tapeware. They have a product called the
> > Small Business Server Pack. It appears easier and cheaper.
> >
> > Questions.
> > Does anybody have any preferences ? If so why.
> > Is backup software bundled with backup devices these days ?
> > Does the "full" backup / disaster recovery (as indicated with HP
> > drives)....really work, and is it the software that does it ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: Backup Software Choice by Susan

Susan
Mon Sep 01 11:24:21 CDT 2003

NTbackup built into SBS is quite fine as well.

I honestly haven't heard of Tapeware. Veritas Backup Exec is the most used
third party backup. I personally use Ultrabac.

Robert Morris wrote:

> Thanks for that
>
> It is a business server with about 25 users
> 72Gb SCSI but no SQL (just the rest).
>
> What about the software question? Is the Tapeware stuff ok ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Robert
>
> "Kevin Weilbacher" <kweilbac@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:eVGm0uIcDHA.1532@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > is this a business server, or a home server?
> > are you running any SQL databases?
> > how big are your disk drives, and how much data do you currently have to
> > backup?
> >
> > I would suggest that you get a tape drive with capacity to allow you to do
> a
> > full backup every night. IMO, most SBS sites drag their feet even in
> > accepting the fact that they have to change tapes. And if you are trying
> to
> > do incremental or differential backups during the week, you only have to
> > miss one day or reuse the wrong tape one time to throw everything into
> > disarray.
> >
> > I keep it simple -- two sets of 5 tapes -- one set labeled Week 1 -
> Mondsay
> > through Friday, the second set labeled Week 2 - Monday through Friday.
> >
> > There have been literally dozens, maybe hundreds, of posts in this NG in
> the
> > past year re: the issues (problems, opportunities, etc) with doing a bare
> > metal restore from a disaster recovery point of view. Bottom line is that
> > there are issues with short -vs- long file names that doesn't make such
> > recovery a 100% guarantee.
> >
> > DLT is faster, more reliable and has more capacity than DAT. I usually
> use
> > DLT for my customer sites, but use DAT on my test server at home.
> >
> > -kw
> >
> >
> > "Robert Morris" <rtmorris@datahouse-systems.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:bius15$9gg$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > I am going to be backing up our SBS server to a DAT or DLT. I am trying
> > to
> > > decide on backup software at the best cost.
> > >
> > > Backupexec is a common one but comes with various add-ons for different
> > > functions. A bit complicated.
> > >
> > > The other I have looked at is Tapeware. They have a product called the
> > > Small Business Server Pack. It appears easier and cheaper.
> > >
> > > Questions.
> > > Does anybody have any preferences ? If so why.
> > > Is backup software bundled with backup devices these days ?
> > > Does the "full" backup / disaster recovery (as indicated with HP
> > > drives)....really work, and is it the software that does it ?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

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