Every day I receive a list of Zip Codes covering Sales Leads. The as-received
format includes regular 5 digit zips, 5+4 zips, and 5 digit zips with the
leading zeros omitted, but I need to change it to 5 digit to process further.

Routinely, I use the command "Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code" to add the
leading zeros back. But the command seems unable to convert a '5+4' format to
a simple 5 digit format, and I end up having to delete the hypen and the last
4 digits manually. Am I missing a trick?

Mike

Re: Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code by David

David
Fri May 09 09:03:07 CDT 2008

Your 5+4 ZIPs were presumably stored as text, rather than as numbers, so
formatting the cell has no effect.
--
David Biddulph

"MichaelRobert" <MichaelRobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:61BE07BD-3734-4DDA-9270-F1E15B2416A5@microsoft.com...
> Every day I receive a list of Zip Codes covering Sales Leads. The
> as-received
> format includes regular 5 digit zips, 5+4 zips, and 5 digit zips with the
> leading zeros omitted, but I need to change it to 5 digit to process
> further.
>
> Routinely, I use the command "Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code" to add the
> leading zeros back. But the command seems unable to convert a '5+4' format
> to
> a simple 5 digit format, and I end up having to delete the hypen and the
> last
> 4 digits manually. Am I missing a trick?
>
> Mike



Re: Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code by MichaelRobert

MichaelRobert
Wed May 14 07:39:00 CDT 2008

David:

Thanks for the suggestion but I don't think that 'stored as text' is the
problem. The Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code command has no trouble adding
dropped leading zeroes. And it will not convert 5+4 ZIPs to 5 ZIPS after I
have formatted to 'number'.

Is there anyhting else?
M

"David Biddulph" wrote:

> Your 5+4 ZIPs were presumably stored as text, rather than as numbers, so
> formatting the cell has no effect.
> --
> David Biddulph
>
> "MichaelRobert" <MichaelRobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:61BE07BD-3734-4DDA-9270-F1E15B2416A5@microsoft.com...
> > Every day I receive a list of Zip Codes covering Sales Leads. The
> > as-received
> > format includes regular 5 digit zips, 5+4 zips, and 5 digit zips with the
> > leading zeros omitted, but I need to change it to 5 digit to process
> > further.
> >
> > Routinely, I use the command "Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code" to add the
> > leading zeros back. But the command seems unable to convert a '5+4' format
> > to
> > a simple 5 digit format, and I end up having to delete the hypen and the
> > last
> > 4 digits manually. Am I missing a trick?
> >
> > Mike
>
>
>

Re: Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code by David

David
Wed May 14 11:00:22 CDT 2008

What do =ISTEXT(A2) and =ISNUMBER(A2) say for your 5+4 ZIPs? I would still
suspect that you've got text rather than numbers.

If you do have text, then =LEFT(A2,5) ought to work to convert them to 5
ZIPs.
If they are numbers, then =LEFT(TEXT(A2,"000000000"),5) should do it (and on
a quick test it looks as if that would probably work with the text ones
too).
--
David Biddulph

"MichaelRobert" <MichaelRobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1853AC26-B1F6-4815-B4AF-AE8AFCB1FF7C@microsoft.com...
> David:
>
> Thanks for the suggestion but I don't think that 'stored as text' is the
> problem. The Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code command has no trouble adding
> dropped leading zeroes. And it will not convert 5+4 ZIPs to 5 ZIPS after I
> have formatted to 'number'.
>
> Is there anyhting else?
> M
>
> "David Biddulph" wrote:
>
>> Your 5+4 ZIPs were presumably stored as text, rather than as numbers, so
>> formatting the cell has no effect.
>> --
>> David Biddulph
>>
>> "MichaelRobert" <MichaelRobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:61BE07BD-3734-4DDA-9270-F1E15B2416A5@microsoft.com...
>> > Every day I receive a list of Zip Codes covering Sales Leads. The
>> > as-received
>> > format includes regular 5 digit zips, 5+4 zips, and 5 digit zips with
>> > the
>> > leading zeros omitted, but I need to change it to 5 digit to process
>> > further.
>> >
>> > Routinely, I use the command "Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code" to add the
>> > leading zeros back. But the command seems unable to convert a '5+4'
>> > format
>> > to
>> > a simple 5 digit format, and I end up having to delete the hypen and
>> > the
>> > last
>> > 4 digits manually. Am I missing a trick?
>> >
>> > Mike
>>
>>
>>



Re: Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code by MichaelRobert

MichaelRobert
Wed May 14 12:21:03 CDT 2008

Thanks, David.

ISTEXT returns FALSE; ISNUMBER returns TRUE.

The LEFT command works well - thank you.

Btw, even if I start with a fresh worksheet, and enter numbers to create a
5-4 ZIP (like 32034-1234) the Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code command does not
convert the entry to 5 digits. Should it?

Mike

"David Biddulph" wrote:

> What do =ISTEXT(A2) and =ISNUMBER(A2) say for your 5+4 ZIPs? I would still
> suspect that you've got text rather than numbers.
>
> If you do have text, then =LEFT(A2,5) ought to work to convert them to 5
> ZIPs.
> If they are numbers, then =LEFT(TEXT(A2,"000000000"),5) should do it (and on
> a quick test it looks as if that would probably work with the text ones
> too).
> --
> David Biddulph
>
> "MichaelRobert" <MichaelRobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1853AC26-B1F6-4815-B4AF-AE8AFCB1FF7C@microsoft.com...
> > David:
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion but I don't think that 'stored as text' is the
> > problem. The Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code command has no trouble adding
> > dropped leading zeroes. And it will not convert 5+4 ZIPs to 5 ZIPS after I
> > have formatted to 'number'.
> >
> > Is there anyhting else?
> > M
> >
> > "David Biddulph" wrote:
> >
> >> Your 5+4 ZIPs were presumably stored as text, rather than as numbers, so
> >> formatting the cell has no effect.
> >> --
> >> David Biddulph
> >>
> >> "MichaelRobert" <MichaelRobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:61BE07BD-3734-4DDA-9270-F1E15B2416A5@microsoft.com...
> >> > Every day I receive a list of Zip Codes covering Sales Leads. The
> >> > as-received
> >> > format includes regular 5 digit zips, 5+4 zips, and 5 digit zips with
> >> > the
> >> > leading zeros omitted, but I need to change it to 5 digit to process
> >> > further.
> >> >
> >> > Routinely, I use the command "Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code" to add the
> >> > leading zeros back. But the command seems unable to convert a '5+4'
> >> > format
> >> > to
> >> > a simple 5 digit format, and I end up having to delete the hypen and
> >> > the
> >> > last
> >> > 4 digits manually. Am I missing a trick?
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code by Beege

Beege
Wed May 14 13:37:05 CDT 2008

ISTEXT is going return TRUE to the 5-4 zip code. If you enter
00000-1111, Excel assumes its a text entry, otherwise there'd be
confusion on whether it was a zip or a subtraction formula. Strings like
12345 are assumed to be numbers, unless you tell it otherwise, and you
can format numbers to have leading and trailing zeroes, but you can't
format text like that.

My wish is that people would treat zip codes, telephone numbers, serial
numbers (e.g part numbers) as they would text, because nobody is going
to do any calculations to those, except as a text character string.

Maybe clearer, maybe not. Hope it is.

Beege



MichaelRobert wrote:
> Thanks, David.
>
> ISTEXT returns FALSE; ISNUMBER returns TRUE.
>
> The LEFT command works well - thank you.
>
> Btw, even if I start with a fresh worksheet, and enter numbers to create a
> 5-4 ZIP (like 32034-1234) the Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code command does not
> convert the entry to 5 digits. Should it?
>
> Mike
>
> "David Biddulph" wrote:
>
>> What do =ISTEXT(A2) and =ISNUMBER(A2) say for your 5+4 ZIPs? I would still
>> suspect that you've got text rather than numbers.
>>
>> If you do have text, then =LEFT(A2,5) ought to work to convert them to 5
>> ZIPs.
>> If they are numbers, then =LEFT(TEXT(A2,"000000000"),5) should do it (and on
>> a quick test it looks as if that would probably work with the text ones
>> too).
>> --
>> David Biddulph
>>
>> "MichaelRobert" <MichaelRobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1853AC26-B1F6-4815-B4AF-AE8AFCB1FF7C@microsoft.com...
>>> David:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestion but I don't think that 'stored as text' is the
>>> problem. The Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code command has no trouble adding
>>> dropped leading zeroes. And it will not convert 5+4 ZIPs to 5 ZIPS after I
>>> have formatted to 'number'.
>>>
>>> Is there anyhting else?
>>> M
>>>
>>> "David Biddulph" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Your 5+4 ZIPs were presumably stored as text, rather than as numbers, so
>>>> formatting the cell has no effect.
>>>> --
>>>> David Biddulph
>>>>
>>>> "MichaelRobert" <MichaelRobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:61BE07BD-3734-4DDA-9270-F1E15B2416A5@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Every day I receive a list of Zip Codes covering Sales Leads. The
>>>>> as-received
>>>>> format includes regular 5 digit zips, 5+4 zips, and 5 digit zips with
>>>>> the
>>>>> leading zeros omitted, but I need to change it to 5 digit to process
>>>>> further.
>>>>>
>>>>> Routinely, I use the command "Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code" to add the
>>>>> leading zeros back. But the command seems unable to convert a '5+4'
>>>>> format
>>>>> to
>>>>> a simple 5 digit format, and I end up having to delete the hypen and
>>>>> the
>>>>> last
>>>>> 4 digits manually. Am I missing a trick?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>

Re: Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code by MichaelRobert

MichaelRobert
Wed May 14 15:46:04 CDT 2008

David and Beege:

What I am taking from this discussion is that the Format>Cells>Special>Zip
Code (5 digits) command will somehow change the format of 5 digits from ?? to
a 5 digit Zip Code (ie no change at all except to add any missing digits as
leading zeroes) . While the 5+4 command will change a 9 digit string into a
5-4 string.

Is that right? If so, it hardly seems worth having a special command.

Mike

"Beege" wrote:

> ISTEXT is going return TRUE to the 5-4 zip code. If you enter
> 00000-1111, Excel assumes its a text entry, otherwise there'd be
> confusion on whether it was a zip or a subtraction formula. Strings like
> 12345 are assumed to be numbers, unless you tell it otherwise, and you
> can format numbers to have leading and trailing zeroes, but you can't
> format text like that.
>
> My wish is that people would treat zip codes, telephone numbers, serial
> numbers (e.g part numbers) as they would text, because nobody is going
> to do any calculations to those, except as a text character string.
>
> Maybe clearer, maybe not. Hope it is.
>
> Beege
>
>
>
> MichaelRobert wrote:
> > Thanks, David.
> >
> > ISTEXT returns FALSE; ISNUMBER returns TRUE.
> >
> > The LEFT command works well - thank you.
> >
> > Btw, even if I start with a fresh worksheet, and enter numbers to create a
> > 5-4 ZIP (like 32034-1234) the Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code command does not
> > convert the entry to 5 digits. Should it?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > "David Biddulph" wrote:
> >
> >> What do =ISTEXT(A2) and =ISNUMBER(A2) say for your 5+4 ZIPs? I would still
> >> suspect that you've got text rather than numbers.
> >>
> >> If you do have text, then =LEFT(A2,5) ought to work to convert them to 5
> >> ZIPs.
> >> If they are numbers, then =LEFT(TEXT(A2,"000000000"),5) should do it (and on
> >> a quick test it looks as if that would probably work with the text ones
> >> too).
> >> --
> >> David Biddulph
> >>
> >> "MichaelRobert" <MichaelRobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1853AC26-B1F6-4815-B4AF-AE8AFCB1FF7C@microsoft.com...
> >>> David:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the suggestion but I don't think that 'stored as text' is the
> >>> problem. The Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code command has no trouble adding
> >>> dropped leading zeroes. And it will not convert 5+4 ZIPs to 5 ZIPS after I
> >>> have formatted to 'number'.
> >>>
> >>> Is there anyhting else?
> >>> M
> >>>
> >>> "David Biddulph" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Your 5+4 ZIPs were presumably stored as text, rather than as numbers, so
> >>>> formatting the cell has no effect.
> >>>> --
> >>>> David Biddulph
> >>>>
> >>>> "MichaelRobert" <MichaelRobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >>>> message
> >>>> news:61BE07BD-3734-4DDA-9270-F1E15B2416A5@microsoft.com...
> >>>>> Every day I receive a list of Zip Codes covering Sales Leads. The
> >>>>> as-received
> >>>>> format includes regular 5 digit zips, 5+4 zips, and 5 digit zips with
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> leading zeros omitted, but I need to change it to 5 digit to process
> >>>>> further.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Routinely, I use the command "Format>Cells>Special>Zip Code" to add the
> >>>>> leading zeros back. But the command seems unable to convert a '5+4'
> >>>>> format
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> a simple 5 digit format, and I end up having to delete the hypen and
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> last
> >>>>> 4 digits manually. Am I missing a trick?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>