How to setup SPS as a website on IIS 6

I'm very new to SPS and I have installed it on a Windows 2003 member server
for a customer. The customer wants access to it from outside of the network.
I have setup SSL in IIS for the Sharepoint Central Administration website,
however I have noticed that this is not where the pages are stored that the
customer is creating. I've read the documentation and can not find anything
that tells me how to publish my sharepoint services pages that have been
created to IIS so I can enable SSL on them and allow access externally (like
an extranet). I know how to setup SSL on a website and I AM NOT USING ISA:)
I know how to setup Sharepoint services, but I'm missing the middle piece of
getting the sharepoint services webpages over to IIS so I can grant access to
them externally. THis is probably something very simple but I'm not very
familiar with IIS as I don't work with it that much. Any help would be
appreciated. I would also be glad to read how to do this if there is
documetnation out there on it, so point me in that direction if you know
where the documentation is, that does not assume you are using ISA. Thanks!

Louis

Engelbert
Fri Jan 06 10:59:01 CST 2006

>I'm very new to SPS and I have installed it on a Windows 2003 member server

Have you installed SPS 2003 (microsoft.public.sharepoint.portalserver) or
WSS (this newsgroup) ?

The rest of the text seems to indicate you've installed WSS ...

Engelbert

"Louis" <Louis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:17138783-73E6-4442-9815-D8BC5F79FA84@microsoft.com...
> I'm very new to SPS and I have installed it on a Windows 2003 member
> server
> for a customer. The customer wants access to it from outside of the
> network.
> I have setup SSL in IIS for the Sharepoint Central Administration website,
> however I have noticed that this is not where the pages are stored that
> the
> customer is creating. I've read the documentation and can not find
> anything
> that tells me how to publish my sharepoint services pages that have been
> created to IIS so I can enable SSL on them and allow access externally
> (like
> an extranet). I know how to setup SSL on a website and I AM NOT USING
> ISA:)
> I know how to setup Sharepoint services, but I'm missing the middle piece
> of
> getting the sharepoint services webpages over to IIS so I can grant access
> to
> them externally. THis is probably something very simple but I'm not very
> familiar with IIS as I don't work with it that much. Any help would be
> appreciated. I would also be glad to read how to do this if there is
> documetnation out there on it, so point me in that direction if you know
> where the documentation is, that does not assume you are using ISA.
> Thanks!
>
> Louis

Louis
Fri Jan 06 11:23:03 CST 2006

Sorry for the confusion. It's WSS. I was using SPS short for Share Point
Services not thinking that it stands for Sharepoint Portal Server. This
question is relating to the free version, Windows Sharepoint Services. It's
using SP2 as well.

"Engelbert" wrote:

> >I'm very new to SPS and I have installed it on a Windows 2003 member server
>
> Have you installed SPS 2003 (microsoft.public.sharepoint.portalserver) or
> WSS (this newsgroup) ?
>
> The rest of the text seems to indicate you've installed WSS ...
>
> Engelbert
>
> "Louis" <Louis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:17138783-73E6-4442-9815-D8BC5F79FA84@microsoft.com...
> > I'm very new to SPS and I have installed it on a Windows 2003 member
> > server
> > for a customer. The customer wants access to it from outside of the
> > network.
> > I have setup SSL in IIS for the Sharepoint Central Administration website,
> > however I have noticed that this is not where the pages are stored that
> > the
> > customer is creating. I've read the documentation and can not find
> > anything
> > that tells me how to publish my sharepoint services pages that have been
> > created to IIS so I can enable SSL on them and allow access externally
> > (like
> > an extranet). I know how to setup SSL on a website and I AM NOT USING
> > ISA:)
> > I know how to setup Sharepoint services, but I'm missing the middle piece
> > of
> > getting the sharepoint services webpages over to IIS so I can grant access
> > to
> > them externally. THis is probably something very simple but I'm not very
> > familiar with IIS as I don't work with it that much. Any help would be
> > appreciated. I would also be glad to read how to do this if there is
> > documetnation out there on it, so point me in that direction if you know
> > where the documentation is, that does not assume you are using ISA.
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Louis
>
>
>

billtie
Fri Jan 06 11:48:02 CST 2006


1. I would avoid installing SPS and WSS in one fell swoop. I would iron out
wrinkles from WSS first, then I would install SPS.

2. Installing WSS is not(!) trivial at all if you do it the first or second
time. By my count, there are eight different paths you can take.

3. You have to decide on a database system; MSDE, WMSDE or Sql2k0? This is
a major step.

4. You need to familiarize yourself with IIS 6.0. The knowledge of DNS will
stand you in good stead, too.

The best installation guide I've seen as yet is not online, unfortunately.

Try the following sources:
- Windows SharePoint Services Administrator's Guide
- http://www.asaris-matrix.com
- wss.collutions.com

bradm
Fri Jan 06 11:52:03 CST 2006

A lot depends on how and where your web server is.
However, here is a great place to answer your questions. Specific to your
problem.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/isa/2004/plan/isawss.mspx

Good luck,

Brad


"Louis" wrote:

> I'm very new to SPS and I have installed it on a Windows 2003 member server
> for a customer. The customer wants access to it from outside of the network.
> I have setup SSL in IIS for the Sharepoint Central Administration website,
> however I have noticed that this is not where the pages are stored that the
> customer is creating. I've read the documentation and can not find anything
> that tells me how to publish my sharepoint services pages that have been
> created to IIS so I can enable SSL on them and allow access externally (like
> an extranet). I know how to setup SSL on a website and I AM NOT USING ISA:)
> I know how to setup Sharepoint services, but I'm missing the middle piece of
> getting the sharepoint services webpages over to IIS so I can grant access to
> them externally. THis is probably something very simple but I'm not very
> familiar with IIS as I don't work with it that much. Any help would be
> appreciated. I would also be glad to read how to do this if there is
> documetnation out there on it, so point me in that direction if you know
> where the documentation is, that does not assume you are using ISA. Thanks!
>
> Louis

Louis
Fri Jan 06 12:23:02 CST 2006

Sorry for the confusion again in original post. This is WSS. I do not have
Sharepoint Port and do not plan on getting it at this point. I have no
problems installing WSS and I have no problems configuring SSL on a website.
My problem is getting the WSS pages that have been created by the customer to
be published in IIS. Currently the WSS pages that are created seem to be
stored in a .net folder under the Windows folder and do not show up as an
actual web page/virtual page in the IIS mmc. I see the Sharepoint Central
Admin site is in IIS and I can set that up with SSL access. My problem is
the middle part, i have the begining and end parts setup.

Scenario; internally the customer has a WIndows 2003 member server with
WSSsp2 installed. I have an Enterprise Root CA setup on a dc in their
network and have a certificate already created and ready to go. Internally
if the customer types in http://<servername> in a browser they see the WSS
home page and can add documents and create sites and whatever. This is all
going off of port 80, however in IIS I see NOTHING that relates to the pages
she is working on. So I figured that the .net piece is hosting those web
pages on port 80 and IIS is just hosting the Central Administration piece. I
want to allow them access from the outside of their network using SSL to the
WSS pages that are currently being hosted on port 80 and are not showing up
in the IIS mmc. I AM NOT USING ISA so please don't direct me to
documentation that uses ISA unless it shows me that middle piece that I'm
missing. If this can not be done with WSS and I need the Portal services
then so be it but I need to know.

Thanks!!!

Louis

"bill tie" wrote:

>
> 1. I would avoid installing SPS and WSS in one fell swoop. I would iron out
> wrinkles from WSS first, then I would install SPS.
>
> 2. Installing WSS is not(!) trivial at all if you do it the first or second
> time. By my count, there are eight different paths you can take.
>
> 3. You have to decide on a database system; MSDE, WMSDE or Sql2k0? This is
> a major step.
>
> 4. You need to familiarize yourself with IIS 6.0. The knowledge of DNS will
> stand you in good stead, too.
>
> The best installation guide I've seen as yet is not online, unfortunately.
>
> Try the following sources:
> - Windows SharePoint Services Administrator's Guide
> - http://www.asaris-matrix.com
> - wss.collutions.com
>

Louis
Fri Jan 06 12:25:02 CST 2006

Thanks for your reply but I've been to this page and it does not give me the
information I need. I'm not using ISA.

Thanks anyway,
Louis

"bradm" wrote:

> A lot depends on how and where your web server is.
> However, here is a great place to answer your questions. Specific to your
> problem.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/isa/2004/plan/isawss.mspx
>
> Good luck,
>
> Brad
>
>
> "Louis" wrote:
>
> > I'm very new to SPS and I have installed it on a Windows 2003 member server
> > for a customer. The customer wants access to it from outside of the network.
> > I have setup SSL in IIS for the Sharepoint Central Administration website,
> > however I have noticed that this is not where the pages are stored that the
> > customer is creating. I've read the documentation and can not find anything
> > that tells me how to publish my sharepoint services pages that have been
> > created to IIS so I can enable SSL on them and allow access externally (like
> > an extranet). I know how to setup SSL on a website and I AM NOT USING ISA:)
> > I know how to setup Sharepoint services, but I'm missing the middle piece of
> > getting the sharepoint services webpages over to IIS so I can grant access to
> > them externally. THis is probably something very simple but I'm not very
> > familiar with IIS as I don't work with it that much. Any help would be
> > appreciated. I would also be glad to read how to do this if there is
> > documetnation out there on it, so point me in that direction if you know
> > where the documentation is, that does not assume you are using ISA. Thanks!
> >
> > Louis

Engelbert
Fri Jan 06 12:53:51 CST 2006

A minor correction.

The two sites you mention are actually the same information but with
different looks.

The first actually used to have a longer name (which I've forgotten because
I always used the short version www.wssfaq.com) and is now since the
beginning of this year www.asaris.de/sites/walsh.
www.wssfaq.com is the European mirror (some mirror - as above it's not
identical in look) of the US site wss.collutions which is your second site
listed as a source of info.

Another piece of trivia is that you're unlikely to use MSDE with WSS (but
could ...) and would more normally in the non-SQL Server envoironment use
WMSDE whereas with SPS 2003 you don't have the option of WMSDE and would
therefore (in the non ...) use normal MSDE,

Whatever, if I was installing I'd use the Admin Guide or failing that the
Resource Kit book. I'd use either WSS FAQ site if I had problems when
installing (or afterwards)

Engelbert


"bill tie" <billtie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:38B4BD63-1243-409A-B9E0-0749DABAC7CA@microsoft.com...
>
> 1. I would avoid installing SPS and WSS in one fell swoop. I would iron
> out
> wrinkles from WSS first, then I would install SPS.
>
> 2. Installing WSS is not(!) trivial at all if you do it the first or
> second
> time. By my count, there are eight different paths you can take.
>
> 3. You have to decide on a database system; MSDE, WMSDE or Sql2k0? This
> is
> a major step.
>
> 4. You need to familiarize yourself with IIS 6.0. The knowledge of DNS
> will
> stand you in good stead, too.
>
> The best installation guide I've seen as yet is not online, unfortunately.
>
> Try the following sources:
> - Windows SharePoint Services Administrator's Guide
> - http://www.asaris-matrix.com
> - wss.collutions.com
>

billtie
Fri Jan 06 14:05:03 CST 2006

Louis,

This doesn't sound like a WSS problem. This looks like a networking and/or
DNS confusion. And your being a WSS and IIS novice -- but you've confessed
so.

1. "...however in IIS I see NOTHING that relates to the pages
she is working on."

This should be OK. With WSS, almost everything is stored in and served from
the database. You won't see much in IIS.

2. Where is the WSS site a user accesses. Is it on the same machine as the
SharePoint Central Administration site? Does the machine have a public IP
address?

3. In IIS, what's the name of the WSS website? If your user accesses the
website typing http://<servername>, I daresay the website is in the "Default
Web Site."

4. If the website isn't critically important to protect, at this juncture, I
suggest you not SSL-ize the connection yet. WSS uses absolute links, you may
have problems, particularly if you don't use Isa2k4. Isa2k4 works great with
WSS. Test you external connection without SSL, first.

5. To establish an external connection with your WSS website, at a minimum,
you need to do two things:
(a) create a DNS record on the Internet;
(b) create a host header name for the WSS website, in IIS on the machine
that hosts the website.

Louis
Fri Jan 06 14:05:04 CST 2006

I'll check those sites out. But I'm not having any installation problems. I
think I'm just missing something simple. I will go back and re-read my
documentation and whatever else i can find. But I know if I can see more
than just the Central Amdinistration virtual server in my IIS mmc and I
actually saw the site that related to the WSS pages then I could get this
done. But again those pages seem to be embedded somewhere else in the
server. And btw, the server that is running WSS is also running IIS on it.

"Engelbert" wrote:

> A minor correction.
>
> The two sites you mention are actually the same information but with
> different looks.
>
> The first actually used to have a longer name (which I've forgotten because
> I always used the short version www.wssfaq.com) and is now since the
> beginning of this year www.asaris.de/sites/walsh.
> www.wssfaq.com is the European mirror (some mirror - as above it's not
> identical in look) of the US site wss.collutions which is your second site
> listed as a source of info.
>
> Another piece of trivia is that you're unlikely to use MSDE with WSS (but
> could ...) and would more normally in the non-SQL Server envoironment use
> WMSDE whereas with SPS 2003 you don't have the option of WMSDE and would
> therefore (in the non ...) use normal MSDE,
>
> Whatever, if I was installing I'd use the Admin Guide or failing that the
> Resource Kit book. I'd use either WSS FAQ site if I had problems when
> installing (or afterwards)
>
> Engelbert
>
>
> "bill tie" <billtie@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:38B4BD63-1243-409A-B9E0-0749DABAC7CA@microsoft.com...
> >
> > 1. I would avoid installing SPS and WSS in one fell swoop. I would iron
> > out
> > wrinkles from WSS first, then I would install SPS.
> >
> > 2. Installing WSS is not(!) trivial at all if you do it the first or
> > second
> > time. By my count, there are eight different paths you can take.
> >
> > 3. You have to decide on a database system; MSDE, WMSDE or Sql2k0? This
> > is
> > a major step.
> >
> > 4. You need to familiarize yourself with IIS 6.0. The knowledge of DNS
> > will
> > stand you in good stead, too.
> >
> > The best installation guide I've seen as yet is not online, unfortunately.
> >
> > Try the following sources:
> > - Windows SharePoint Services Administrator's Guide
> > - http://www.asaris-matrix.com
> > - wss.collutions.com
> >
>
>
>