MikeC
Mon Sep 27 13:41:18 CDT 2004
Peter,
Sorry, I was using PP 2003 and seem to remember that a thicket was
inescapable in 2000. So using the viewer (zip the viewer and presentation
together), upgrading to PP 2003 (IF the presentation is not too big for
users to wait for the single huge htm file download), or publish to a non-SP
page/folder (slightly more complicated, but once it is setup you can publish
this and future presentations to the non-SP sub-site - any size
presentation), you will need to work with FrontPage or hire an administrator
to set this non-SP site up.
MikeC
"Peter Schott" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3b4001c4a4bc$2d557a40$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> September 27, 2004
>
> Mike:
>
> I am using Powerpoint 2000 and saving as a .mht is not an
> option.
>
> I did visit your site and tried the files there, the .mht
> does work if I could create one. Do you know if save
> as .mht is an option in Powerpoint 2003?
>
> The other Mike's suggestion, to save as a single .html
> file, that doesn't seem to be an option in Powerpoint
> 2000 either. There's a checkbox option under, "save as
> web page," "publish," "web options," "files," "organize
> supporting files in folder." But the associated files
> are created just the same however the box is marked. If
> you check it, then the folder is created and the
> supporting files are stored in the folder. If you leave
> it unchecked then it creates the files and stores them in
> My Documents (for example) along with the saved .htm file.
>
> Peter S.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >As I said and have on the site I referred you to, you
> can create a .mht file
> >and upload that and this will open correctly via the
> browser.
> >
> >I had to try various options before it worked - but it
> did finally by
> >ignoring Publish and just doing Save (specifying .mht
> file). Couldn't you
> >get this to work at all ?
> >
> >Mike (2)'s suggestion of html might work too - I just
> didn't test that Save
> >possibility.
> >
> >Mike Walsh, Helsinki, Finland
> >
> >"Peter Schott" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote in message
> >news:449e01c4a49c$1d626e60$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> >> September 27, 2004
> >>
> >> Mike, Mike,
> >>
> >> I tried various iterations of saving my Powerpoint as
> >> suggested. On my machine it seems that Powerpoint
> >> creates a thicket everytime. Its just a question of
> >> whether or not the many files are stored in a folder or
> >> loose in whatever folder I save them to.
> >>
> >> So I tried uploading all the files to my Sharepoint
> site,
> >> (160 files in total) but that doesn't work for me
> either,
> >> same HTTP404.
> >>
> >> I'm not a professional administrator so solutions are
> not
> >> always obvious to me. I think what I can do is
> download
> >> the Powerpoint viewer to a shared directory on our
> server
> >> and then point my users there. Or I can figure out how
> >> to install the viewer on my clients from the server.
> Its
> >> all new to me.
> >>
> >> Thanks again for your help.
> >>
> >> Peter S.
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Mike, Peter,
> >> >
> >> >The html "file" does not work because the htm file
> >> created by PowerPoint (or
> >> >Word) has a THICKET of additional files (images and
> >> control files) stored in
> >> >a thicket directory. For example if you save a
> >> presentation (or word
> >> >document) as Test.htm you will also find a sub-
> directory
> >> called "test_files"
> >> >created in the same directory as the test.htm file -
> >> this is called the
> >> >thicket. If you move the htm file (with Windows
> >> explorer) to another
> >> >directory you will find that the thicket is also moved
> >> automatically with
> >> >the file - spooky Microsoft stuff.
> >> >
> >> >So in trying to render the htm file, IE is directed to
> >> look for additional
> >> >files in the thicket - which was not uploaded when you
> >> uploaded the single
> >> >htm file. You might try uploading the test.htm file
> and
> >> the whole
> >> >test_files folder (all files) to make it work like you
> >> expect.
> >> >
> >> >Saving the presentation as a "single html file" should
> >> work as no thicket is
> >> >created and all supporting image files are wrapped in
> to
> >> one huge html file.
> >> >
> >> >Using publish should work as SharePoint document
> >> libraries attempt to
> >> >support thickets. When publishing there is an option
> to
> >> store the
> >> >supporting files (that go into the thicket) in the
> same
> >> directory as the
> >> >base file (uncheck - organize supporting files in
> >> directory), this may help
> >> >IE find the files in the library (although it is messy
> >> and I do not know if
> >> >it works).
> >> >
> >> >The unpublished SINGLE html file is best for a WSS
> >> library and small
> >> >presentations. Publishing to a web site (non-
> >> SharePoint) is better for
> >> >large presentations as all the pages and images of the
> >> whole presentation do
> >> >not need to be downloaded in mass - each page is
> stored
> >> separately in the
> >> >thicket and is loaded as needed. A non-SharePoint
> >> website supports thickets
> >> >as a directory.
> >> >
> >> >MikeC
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Mike Walsh" <englantilainen@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> >news:2D4EF418-B46F-4CA0-AE02-
> >> 23D48413BA69@microsoft.com...
> >> >> Peter:
> >> >>
> >> >> OK. I've now done a few tests.
> >> >>
> >> >> The various files I uploaded to the WSS FAQ site (go
> >> in www.wssfaq.com to
> >> >> Documents and Settings and select Test DocLib are
> all
> >> called Test Title.
> >> >>
> >> >> The are three .ppt; htm (using Publish to create)
> and
> >> mht (also using
> >> >Publish)
> >> >>
> >> >> .ppt works
> >> >> .htm is as you say
> >> >> .mht looks at first promising (you can see the first
> >> page) but then you
> >> >> can't see the second page and then not even the
> first
> >> page.
> >> >>
> >> >> However the solution is to say in PowerPoint that
> you
> >> want to create a web
> >> >> page (File / save as Web page) and then just do Save
> >> (ignore Publish).
> >> >What
> >> >> you'll then get will open from the WSS site OK.
> >> >>
> >> >> This final test file is called Test Title_mht2
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike Walsh, Helsinki, Finland
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mike Walsh" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > >I've posted this query for help on the SBS group
> >> twice
> >> >> > >without positive results. Thanks in advance for
> any
> >> >> > >assistance.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks for adding this (put it at the beginning
> >> though to save my
> >> >possible
> >> >> > embarassment ..)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I just wrote a para saying they can use the free
> PPt
> >> Viewer but I now
> >> >see
> >> >> > you don't want that - pity. Don't you have
> software
> >> that enables bulk
> >> >> > installs on all your clients?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'll try adding a test PowerPoint file as an .htm
> >> file to the mirror WSS
> >> >FAQ
> >> >> > site and see if there are problems on a standard
> WSS
> >> site and report
> >> >back.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mike Walsh, Helsinki, Finland
> >> >> > WSS FAQ at
http://wss.collutions.com
> >> >> > Please reply to the newsgroup
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Peter Schott"
> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:1b7201c4a275$79930c90$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> > > I'm running SBS 2003. Its comes with a canned
> >> intranet
> >> >> > > site,
http://companyweb, that I believe is a
> >> Sharepoint
> >> >> > > service.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I created a slide show in Powerpoint and saved
> it
> >> as
> >> >> > > a .htm file. I uploaded the .htm file to
> >> >> > >
http://companyweb where it appears on a document
> >> list.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > However when you try to open the file you get
> the
> >> IE page
> >> >> > > not found error, http404.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Not all of my users have Powerpoint, otherwise I
> >> would
> >> >> > > just upload the native Powerpoint file - that
> works
> >> >> > > fine. It was suggested that I just give my
> users
> >> a link
> >> >> > > to download the Powerpoint viewer, but I
> encourage
> >> my
> >> >> > > users not to download and install software and
> not
> >> all of
> >> >> > > them have admin rights anyway, so that solution
> is
> >> >> > > problematic.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > What am I doing wrong? The sample presentation
> >> that
> >> >> > > comes with the companyweb site suggests saving
> the
> >> >> > > Powerpoint file as a .htm so that everyone can
> >> open it.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I've posted this query for help on the SBS group
> >> twice
> >> >> > > without positive results. Thanks in advance for
> >> any
> >> >> > > assistance.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Peter S.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >