people cant see my servers ip address

well, this one seems to be a tough one to figure out. Its like I have a fire wall that Im not aware of. check this out. I can access the internet & use chat services & all that cool stuff. But if someone tries to send me files over the internet through like icq, they get an error msg saying session is blocked by a firewall. Also, If i host a server for a game or verbal internet chat service on my computer, I can access that server fine but when I give the ip address to those same people they cant access it at all, like it doesnt exist or something. Im useing windows xp, & I have disabled the firewall under network or internet connections. Can some figure this one out for me?

PA
Wed Jun 09 22:15:33 CDT 2004

how do you connect?
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Toosaw wrote:
> well, this one seems to be a tough one to figure out. Its like I have a
> fire wall that Im not aware of. check this out. I can access the internet
> & use chat services & all that cool stuff. But if someone tries to send
> me files over the internet through like icq, they get an error msg saying
> session is blocked by a firewall. Also, If i host a server for a game or
> verbal internet chat service on my computer, I can access that server
> fine but when I give the ip address to those same people they cant access
> it at all, like it doesnt exist or something. Im useing windows xp, & I
> have disabled the firewall under network or internet connections. Can
> some figure this one out for me?

Toosaw
Wed Jun 09 22:43:01 CDT 2004

through dsl

"PA Bear" wrote:

> how do you connect?
> --
> HTH - Please Reply to This Thread
>
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP
>
> AumHa Forums
> http://forum.aumha.org
>
> Protect Your PC
> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect
>
> Toosaw wrote:
> > well, this one seems to be a tough one to figure out. Its like I have a
> > fire wall that Im not aware of. check this out. I can access the internet
> > & use chat services & all that cool stuff. But if someone tries to send
> > me files over the internet through like icq, they get an error msg saying
> > session is blocked by a firewall. Also, If i host a server for a game or
> > verbal internet chat service on my computer, I can access that server
> > fine but when I give the ip address to those same people they cant access
> > it at all, like it doesnt exist or something. Im useing windows xp, & I
> > have disabled the firewall under network or internet connections. Can
> > some figure this one out for me?
>

anonymous
Wed Jun 09 23:06:04 CDT 2004

You should take this up with your ISP - they provide you with the IP address, and they are responsible for including your address in their routing advertisemenets to the rest of the world

PA
Thu Jun 10 00:10:37 CDT 2004

Router? Network?
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~PA Bear

Toosaw wrote:
> through dsl
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>> how do you connect?
>> --
>> HTH - Please Reply to This Thread
>>
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP
>>
>> AumHa Forums
>> http://forum.aumha.org
>>
>> Protect Your PC
>> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect
>>
>> Toosaw wrote:
>>> well, this one seems to be a tough one to figure out. Its like I have a
>>> fire wall that Im not aware of. check this out. I can access the
>>> internet & use chat services & all that cool stuff. But if someone
>>> tries to send me files over the internet through like icq, they get an
>>> error msg saying session is blocked by a firewall. Also, If i host a
>>> server for a game or verbal internet chat service on my computer, I can
>>> access that server fine but when I give the ip address to those same
>>> people they cant access it at all, like it doesnt exist or something.
>>> Im useing windows xp, & I have disabled the firewall under network or
>>> internet connections. Can some figure this one out for me?

anonymous
Thu Jun 10 09:01:02 CDT 2004

Can your ping your ISP? Can your ISP ping you? There is probably a problem here. If you ISP can ping you and nobody else can, then its an ISP issue.

Lanwench
Thu Jun 10 13:30:10 CDT 2004

Your DSL router is very likely doing NAT, and this is sortakinda a firewall
of sorts. See if you can configure your icq, etc., to work with a firewall
(I know you can do this with Yahoo Instant Messenger; don't use ICQ).

You should leave your firewall enabled anyway or use a third party firewall
app like zonealarm or sygate - NAT on the DSL router isn't much in the way
of security. You can open up ports as you wish to allow your games to work,
etc....or just accept that there's a tradeoff sometimes between security and
functionality. Yahoo Games, for example, should work fine with a firewall
enabled & no inbound ports open at all.

Toosaw wrote:
> well, this one seems to be a tough one to figure out. Its like I have
> a fire wall that Im not aware of. check this out. I can access the
> internet & use chat services & all that cool stuff. But if someone
> tries to send me files over the internet through like icq, they get
> an error msg saying session is blocked by a firewall. Also, If i host
> a server for a game or verbal internet chat service on my computer, I
> can access that server fine but when I give the ip address to those
> same people they cant access it at all, like it doesnt exist or
> something. Im useing windows xp, & I have disabled the firewall under
> network or internet connections. Can some figure this one out for me?

Toosaw
Thu Jun 10 20:18:01 CDT 2004

well, Im not useing a router or switch, Im connected right into the modem.

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

> Your DSL router is very likely doing NAT, and this is sortakinda a firewall
> of sorts. See if you can configure your icq, etc., to work with a firewall
> (I know you can do this with Yahoo Instant Messenger; don't use ICQ).
>
> You should leave your firewall enabled anyway or use a third party firewall
> app like zonealarm or sygate - NAT on the DSL router isn't much in the way
> of security. You can open up ports as you wish to allow your games to work,
> etc....or just accept that there's a tradeoff sometimes between security and
> functionality. Yahoo Games, for example, should work fine with a firewall
> enabled & no inbound ports open at all.
>
> Toosaw wrote:
> > well, this one seems to be a tough one to figure out. Its like I have
> > a fire wall that Im not aware of. check this out. I can access the
> > internet & use chat services & all that cool stuff. But if someone
> > tries to send me files over the internet through like icq, they get
> > an error msg saying session is blocked by a firewall. Also, If i host
> > a server for a game or verbal internet chat service on my computer, I
> > can access that server fine but when I give the ip address to those
> > same people they cant access it at all, like it doesnt exist or
> > something. Im useing windows xp, & I have disabled the firewall under
> > network or internet connections. Can some figure this one out for me?
>
>
>

Tom
Thu Jun 10 20:42:42 CDT 2004

Could be blocked by the ISP.

Tom
"Toosaw" <Toosaw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9DCA72E5-BAEC-4D64-AEDD-2EB1B397A59A@microsoft.com...
| well, Im not useing a router or switch, Im connected right into the modem.
|
| "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
|
| > Your DSL router is very likely doing NAT, and this is sortakinda a
firewall
| > of sorts. See if you can configure your icq, etc., to work with a
firewall
| > (I know you can do this with Yahoo Instant Messenger; don't use ICQ).
| >
| > You should leave your firewall enabled anyway or use a third party
firewall
| > app like zonealarm or sygate - NAT on the DSL router isn't much in the
way
| > of security. You can open up ports as you wish to allow your games to
work,
| > etc....or just accept that there's a tradeoff sometimes between security
and
| > functionality. Yahoo Games, for example, should work fine with a
firewall
| > enabled & no inbound ports open at all.
| >
| > Toosaw wrote:
| > > well, this one seems to be a tough one to figure out. Its like I have
| > > a fire wall that Im not aware of. check this out. I can access the
| > > internet & use chat services & all that cool stuff. But if someone
| > > tries to send me files over the internet through like icq, they get
| > > an error msg saying session is blocked by a firewall. Also, If i host
| > > a server for a game or verbal internet chat service on my computer, I
| > > can access that server fine but when I give the ip address to those
| > > same people they cant access it at all, like it doesnt exist or
| > > something. Im useing windows xp, & I have disabled the firewall under
| > > network or internet connections. Can some figure this one out for me?
| >
| >
| >

Lanwench
Fri Jun 11 08:54:44 CDT 2004

A modem can be a router, generally speaking. If it isn't even doing NAT,
then by all means enable the XP firewall ASAP - but I agree with the other
replies that you should talk to your ISP.

Toosaw wrote:
> well, Im not useing a router or switch, Im connected right into the
> modem.
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>
>> Your DSL router is very likely doing NAT, and this is sortakinda a
>> firewall of sorts. See if you can configure your icq, etc., to work
>> with a firewall (I know you can do this with Yahoo Instant
>> Messenger; don't use ICQ).
>>
>> You should leave your firewall enabled anyway or use a third party
>> firewall app like zonealarm or sygate - NAT on the DSL router isn't
>> much in the way of security. You can open up ports as you wish to
>> allow your games to work, etc....or just accept that there's a
>> tradeoff sometimes between security and functionality. Yahoo Games,
>> for example, should work fine with a firewall enabled & no inbound
>> ports open at all.
>>
>> Toosaw wrote:
>>> well, this one seems to be a tough one to figure out. Its like I
>>> have a fire wall that Im not aware of. check this out. I can access
>>> the internet & use chat services & all that cool stuff. But if
>>> someone tries to send me files over the internet through like icq,
>>> they get an error msg saying session is blocked by a firewall.
>>> Also, If i host a server for a game or verbal internet chat service
>>> on my computer, I can access that server fine but when I give the
>>> ip address to those same people they cant access it at all, like it
>>> doesnt exist or something. Im useing windows xp, & I have disabled
>>> the firewall under network or internet connections. Can some figure
>>> this one out for me?

Toosaw
Fri Jun 11 23:59:01 CDT 2004

ok, Ive talked to my isp, & they told me the ip address I have been trying to use is my internal ip address, so now I have my externat dynamic address, but now my comp cant see & use that address to host my servers

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

> A modem can be a router, generally speaking. If it isn't even doing NAT,
> then by all means enable the XP firewall ASAP - but I agree with the other
> replies that you should talk to your ISP.
>
> Toosaw wrote:
> > well, Im not useing a router or switch, Im connected right into the
> > modem.
> >
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
> >
> >> Your DSL router is very likely doing NAT, and this is sortakinda a
> >> firewall of sorts. See if you can configure your icq, etc., to work
> >> with a firewall (I know you can do this with Yahoo Instant
> >> Messenger; don't use ICQ).
> >>
> >> You should leave your firewall enabled anyway or use a third party
> >> firewall app like zonealarm or sygate - NAT on the DSL router isn't
> >> much in the way of security. You can open up ports as you wish to
> >> allow your games to work, etc....or just accept that there's a
> >> tradeoff sometimes between security and functionality. Yahoo Games,
> >> for example, should work fine with a firewall enabled & no inbound
> >> ports open at all.
> >>
> >> Toosaw wrote:
> >>> well, this one seems to be a tough one to figure out. Its like I
> >>> have a fire wall that Im not aware of. check this out. I can access
> >>> the internet & use chat services & all that cool stuff. But if
> >>> someone tries to send me files over the internet through like icq,
> >>> they get an error msg saying session is blocked by a firewall.
> >>> Also, If i host a server for a game or verbal internet chat service
> >>> on my computer, I can access that server fine but when I give the
> >>> ip address to those same people they cant access it at all, like it
> >>> doesnt exist or something. Im useing windows xp, & I have disabled
> >>> the firewall under network or internet connections. Can some figure
> >>> this one out for me?
>
>
>

Lanwench
Sat Jun 12 16:11:58 CDT 2004

Your cablem modem is doing NAT. If you can't set up your applications to
work with this, you may be out of luck if your ISP can't help you.

Toosaw wrote:
> ok, Ive talked to my isp, & they told me the ip address I have been
> trying to use is my internal ip address, so now I have my externat
> dynamic address, but now my comp cant see & use that address to host
> my servers
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>
>> A modem can be a router, generally speaking. If it isn't even doing
>> NAT, then by all means enable the XP firewall ASAP - but I agree
>> with the other replies that you should talk to your ISP.
>>
>> Toosaw wrote:
>>> well, Im not useing a router or switch, Im connected right into the
>>> modem.
>>>
>>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Your DSL router is very likely doing NAT, and this is sortakinda a
>>>> firewall of sorts. See if you can configure your icq, etc., to work
>>>> with a firewall (I know you can do this with Yahoo Instant
>>>> Messenger; don't use ICQ).
>>>>
>>>> You should leave your firewall enabled anyway or use a third party
>>>> firewall app like zonealarm or sygate - NAT on the DSL router isn't
>>>> much in the way of security. You can open up ports as you wish to
>>>> allow your games to work, etc....or just accept that there's a
>>>> tradeoff sometimes between security and functionality. Yahoo Games,
>>>> for example, should work fine with a firewall enabled & no inbound
>>>> ports open at all.
>>>>
>>>> Toosaw wrote:
>>>>> well, this one seems to be a tough one to figure out. Its like I
>>>>> have a fire wall that Im not aware of. check this out. I can
>>>>> access the internet & use chat services & all that cool stuff.
>>>>> But if someone tries to send me files over the internet through
>>>>> like icq, they get an error msg saying session is blocked by a
>>>>> firewall. Also, If i host a server for a game or verbal internet
>>>>> chat service on my computer, I can access that server fine but
>>>>> when I give the ip address to those same people they cant access
>>>>> it at all, like it doesnt exist or something. Im useing windows
>>>>> xp, & I have disabled the firewall under network or internet
>>>>> connections. Can some figure this one out for me?