msn messenger hacked

I dont think there is a solution to this but thought i may as well try. I
spoke to a friend today who mentioned something about a conversation we'd had
a couple of nights ago on msn messenger..... however i wasnt on. Now i know
whoever hacked into my account obviously knew me as they talked about fairly
personal things so it isnt a major security issue however i would just like
to know who it was. My password wasnt changed and it was definately logged in
on another computer. I know its a long shot but is there any chance i can
find out who it was?! thanks.

TJ
Mon Mar 20 20:51:27 CST 2006

I have had almost the exact situation occur, however someone hacked in and
printed all my messages. I would also like to know where this occured from,
possibly an IP address so that I can pass this info on to the authorities.
Thank you, please help. This has caused a great personal problem for me,
and may cost me custody of my children.


"Vicky" wrote:

> I dont think there is a solution to this but thought i may as well try. I
> spoke to a friend today who mentioned something about a conversation we'd had
> a couple of nights ago on msn messenger..... however i wasnt on. Now i know
> whoever hacked into my account obviously knew me as they talked about fairly
> personal things so it isnt a major security issue however i would just like
> to know who it was. My password wasnt changed and it was definately logged in
> on another computer. I know its a long shot but is there any chance i can
> find out who it was?! thanks.

Jon
Tue Mar 21 08:12:32 CST 2006

In both cases it sounds like it was someone who both knew you and your
passwords. I agree that there is no way, for the non-MSN employee to tell
what ip the connections came from and the ones who can tell are under
instruction not to give the information out(I used to be a tier 2 tech for
MSN). I would recommend that both of you immediately change your passwords
to something that is not easy to guess. As to the one who had his messages
printed I would not save message archives in messenger, save them as text
files using file-> save as in the chat window. This way there is no record
of the conversation that can be easily obtained from messenger. It is a bit
more of a pain to do it this way but it does add some security.

Jon


"TJ" <TJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:581B18D6-FBEF-4A69-A8FD-09FF8440B041@microsoft.com...
>I have had almost the exact situation occur, however someone hacked in and
> printed all my messages. I would also like to know where this occured
> from,
> possibly an IP address so that I can pass this info on to the authorities.
> Thank you, please help. This has caused a great personal problem for me,
> and may cost me custody of my children.
>
>
> "Vicky" wrote:
>
>> I dont think there is a solution to this but thought i may as well try. I
>> spoke to a friend today who mentioned something about a conversation we'd
>> had
>> a couple of nights ago on msn messenger..... however i wasnt on. Now i
>> know
>> whoever hacked into my account obviously knew me as they talked about
>> fairly
>> personal things so it isnt a major security issue however i would just
>> like
>> to know who it was. My password wasnt changed and it was definately
>> logged in
>> on another computer. I know its a long shot but is there any chance i can
>> find out who it was?! thanks.

Robert
Tue Mar 21 14:06:10 CST 2006

TJ wrote:
> I have had almost the exact situation occur, however someone hacked
> in and printed all my messages. I would also like to know where this
> occured from, possibly an IP address so that I can pass this info on
> to the authorities. Thank you, please help. This has caused a great
> personal problem for me, and may cost me custody of my children.

in both cases, the most likely explanation is that someone installed a
"keylogger" onto your computers to record your activity. If anyone else uses
your computer and has admin rights then you cannot trust that computer if
you do not also trust the admin.

baboon
Wed Mar 22 21:46:30 CST 2006

It also could be as simple this:
You used someone else's computer while logged on with an account that others
use. You set up your MSN account, and unfortunately those things tend to
save passwords and start at login by default (not real familiar with MSN
Messenger, so I may be wrong about that particular app).

I only say this because I was visiting a friend a couple of months ago and
when she logged on to her computer for me to use, I noticed that her brother
had set up his Yahoo Messenger account. One of his chat friends started
chatting with me. When I let my friend's brother know about it, he was
incredulous; he had no idea he had set auto login.

This may not be the case at all in your situations, but the point is to be
careful to pay attention to the settings when setting up apps such as e-mail
and IM programs, especially on shared machines.

"Robert Moir" wrote:

> TJ wrote:
> > I have had almost the exact situation occur, however someone hacked
> > in and printed all my messages. I would also like to know where this
> > occured from, possibly an IP address so that I can pass this info on
> > to the authorities. Thank you, please help. This has caused a great
> > personal problem for me, and may cost me custody of my children.
>
> in both cases, the most likely explanation is that someone installed a
> "keylogger" onto your computers to record your activity. If anyone else uses
> your computer and has admin rights then you cannot trust that computer if
> you do not also trust the admin.
>
>
>

smd9296
Wed Mar 22 23:20:30 CST 2006

Two years ago, I had a suspicion that my email was being read by my (now ex)
husband. Determined to find out for sure, I emailed my sister and said some
unflattering things about him. When he came home from work that day, he was
furious with me for saying these things. He had no way of knowing my
password (mine are always obscure), but had installed a keylogger.

"Charlie" wrote:

> It also could be as simple this:
> You used someone else's computer while logged on with an account that others
> use. You set up your MSN account, and unfortunately those things tend to
> save passwords and start at login by default (not real familiar with MSN
> Messenger, so I may be wrong about that particular app).
>
> I only say this because I was visiting a friend a couple of months ago and
> when she logged on to her computer for me to use, I noticed that her brother
> had set up his Yahoo Messenger account. One of his chat friends started
> chatting with me. When I let my friend's brother know about it, he was
> incredulous; he had no idea he had set auto login.
>
> This may not be the case at all in your situations, but the point is to be
> careful to pay attention to the settings when setting up apps such as e-mail
> and IM programs, especially on shared machines.
>
> "Robert Moir" wrote:
>
> > TJ wrote:
> > > I have had almost the exact situation occur, however someone hacked
> > > in and printed all my messages. I would also like to know where this
> > > occured from, possibly an IP address so that I can pass this info on
> > > to the authorities. Thank you, please help. This has caused a great
> > > personal problem for me, and may cost me custody of my children.
> >
> > in both cases, the most likely explanation is that someone installed a
> > "keylogger" onto your computers to record your activity. If anyone else uses
> > your computer and has admin rights then you cannot trust that computer if
> > you do not also trust the admin.
> >
> >
> >

baboon
Sun Mar 26 16:46:27 CST 2006

Yup, they are out there and easy to get a hold of.
I work at a major university and a couple of years ago a student used one on
a bunch of machines to steal faculty, staff and student passwords.
Fortunately he got caught and was prosecuted.

This got picked up by the media, so you can imagine the PR problem that it
caused the University. In fact we didn't have a Chief Security Officer at
that time, but we now have that and a whole department to go with him. It
was all prompted by this incident.

Interestingly, that anecdote helps make my point about sharing logon
accounts. Admin rights were of course needed to install the keylogger
software. In some cases the student was able to do so because he would grab
a machine that someone with Admin rights hadn't logged off of. Although
mostly he targetted Windows 9x boxes, on which the world has Admin rights.
Another of the many reasons that that OS never had any business being in the
workplace. Same can be said of pre-OSX Macs.

BTW - Glad to hear that he's your EX husband!

"smd9296" wrote:

> Two years ago, I had a suspicion that my email was being read by my (now ex)
> husband. Determined to find out for sure, I emailed my sister and said some
> unflattering things about him. When he came home from work that day, he was
> furious with me for saying these things. He had no way of knowing my
> password (mine are always obscure), but had installed a keylogger.
>
> "Charlie" wrote:
>
> > It also could be as simple this:
> > You used someone else's computer while logged on with an account that others
> > use. You set up your MSN account, and unfortunately those things tend to
> > save passwords and start at login by default (not real familiar with MSN
> > Messenger, so I may be wrong about that particular app).
> >
> > I only say this because I was visiting a friend a couple of months ago and
> > when she logged on to her computer for me to use, I noticed that her brother
> > had set up his Yahoo Messenger account. One of his chat friends started
> > chatting with me. When I let my friend's brother know about it, he was
> > incredulous; he had no idea he had set auto login.
> >
> > This may not be the case at all in your situations, but the point is to be
> > careful to pay attention to the settings when setting up apps such as e-mail
> > and IM programs, especially on shared machines.
> >
> > "Robert Moir" wrote:
> >
> > > TJ wrote:
> > > > I have had almost the exact situation occur, however someone hacked
> > > > in and printed all my messages. I would also like to know where this
> > > > occured from, possibly an IP address so that I can pass this info on
> > > > to the authorities. Thank you, please help. This has caused a great
> > > > personal problem for me, and may cost me custody of my children.
> > >
> > > in both cases, the most likely explanation is that someone installed a
> > > "keylogger" onto your computers to record your activity. If anyone else uses
> > > your computer and has admin rights then you cannot trust that computer if
> > > you do not also trust the admin.
> > >
> > >
> > >

bug
Mon May 08 11:57:02 CDT 2006

I got the same kind of problem, whenever start my computer, automatically
message pop up in the rigth corner that will let me if someone in my add a
contact log in. Though I haven't log in my messanger. How can I overcome this
problem. I know someone is controlling my messager, I am woried about the
situation.

Thanks,
rock






"Charlie" wrote:

> Yup, they are out there and easy to get a hold of.
> I work at a major university and a couple of years ago a student used one on
> a bunch of machines to steal faculty, staff and student passwords.
> Fortunately he got caught and was prosecuted.
>
> This got picked up by the media, so you can imagine the PR problem that it
> caused the University. In fact we didn't have a Chief Security Officer at
> that time, but we now have that and a whole department to go with him. It
> was all prompted by this incident.
>
> Interestingly, that anecdote helps make my point about sharing logon
> accounts. Admin rights were of course needed to install the keylogger
> software. In some cases the student was able to do so because he would grab
> a machine that someone with Admin rights hadn't logged off of. Although
> mostly he targetted Windows 9x boxes, on which the world has Admin rights.
> Another of the many reasons that that OS never had any business being in the
> workplace. Same can be said of pre-OSX Macs.
>
> BTW - Glad to hear that he's your EX husband!
>
> "smd9296" wrote:
>
> > Two years ago, I had a suspicion that my email was being read by my (now ex)
> > husband. Determined to find out for sure, I emailed my sister and said some
> > unflattering things about him. When he came home from work that day, he was
> > furious with me for saying these things. He had no way of knowing my
> > password (mine are always obscure), but had installed a keylogger.
> >
> > "Charlie" wrote:
> >
> > > It also could be as simple this:
> > > You used someone else's computer while logged on with an account that others
> > > use. You set up your MSN account, and unfortunately those things tend to
> > > save passwords and start at login by default (not real familiar with MSN
> > > Messenger, so I may be wrong about that particular app).
> > >
> > > I only say this because I was visiting a friend a couple of months ago and
> > > when she logged on to her computer for me to use, I noticed that her brother
> > > had set up his Yahoo Messenger account. One of his chat friends started
> > > chatting with me. When I let my friend's brother know about it, he was
> > > incredulous; he had no idea he had set auto login.
> > >
> > > This may not be the case at all in your situations, but the point is to be
> > > careful to pay attention to the settings when setting up apps such as e-mail
> > > and IM programs, especially on shared machines.
> > >
> > > "Robert Moir" wrote:
> > >
> > > > TJ wrote:
> > > > > I have had almost the exact situation occur, however someone hacked
> > > > > in and printed all my messages. I would also like to know where this
> > > > > occured from, possibly an IP address so that I can pass this info on
> > > > > to the authorities. Thank you, please help. This has caused a great
> > > > > personal problem for me, and may cost me custody of my children.
> > > >
> > > > in both cases, the most likely explanation is that someone installed a
> > > > "keylogger" onto your computers to record your activity. If anyone else uses
> > > > your computer and has admin rights then you cannot trust that computer if
> > > > you do not also trust the admin.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

Tariq
Tue May 09 00:48:38 CDT 2006

This is just a simple issue and nobody has hakcked your system.

This happens due to simultaneous logon on "windows messenger" and "MSN
Messennger" if you have turned automatic logon on.

There are two resolutions to the issue.
1. Remove windows Messenger
2. Disable automatic Logon on MSN Messenger.

Hope it helps

Tariq

"bug" <bug@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:020ED781-B957-47CF-B5F4-3ABCC307C145@microsoft.com...
>I got the same kind of problem, whenever start my computer, automatically
> message pop up in the rigth corner that will let me if someone in my add a
> contact log in. Though I haven't log in my messanger. How can I overcome
> this
> problem. I know someone is controlling my messager, I am woried about the
> situation.
>
> Thanks,
> rock
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Charlie" wrote:
>
>> Yup, they are out there and easy to get a hold of.
>> I work at a major university and a couple of years ago a student used one
>> on
>> a bunch of machines to steal faculty, staff and student passwords.
>> Fortunately he got caught and was prosecuted.
>>
>> This got picked up by the media, so you can imagine the PR problem that
>> it
>> caused the University. In fact we didn't have a Chief Security Officer
>> at
>> that time, but we now have that and a whole department to go with him.
>> It
>> was all prompted by this incident.
>>
>> Interestingly, that anecdote helps make my point about sharing logon
>> accounts. Admin rights were of course needed to install the keylogger
>> software. In some cases the student was able to do so because he would
>> grab
>> a machine that someone with Admin rights hadn't logged off of. Although
>> mostly he targetted Windows 9x boxes, on which the world has Admin
>> rights.
>> Another of the many reasons that that OS never had any business being in
>> the
>> workplace. Same can be said of pre-OSX Macs.
>>
>> BTW - Glad to hear that he's your EX husband!
>>
>> "smd9296" wrote:
>>
>> > Two years ago, I had a suspicion that my email was being read by my
>> > (now ex)
>> > husband. Determined to find out for sure, I emailed my sister and said
>> > some
>> > unflattering things about him. When he came home from work that day,
>> > he was
>> > furious with me for saying these things. He had no way of knowing my
>> > password (mine are always obscure), but had installed a keylogger.
>> >
>> > "Charlie" wrote:
>> >
>> > > It also could be as simple this:
>> > > You used someone else's computer while logged on with an account that
>> > > others
>> > > use. You set up your MSN account, and unfortunately those things
>> > > tend to
>> > > save passwords and start at login by default (not real familiar with
>> > > MSN
>> > > Messenger, so I may be wrong about that particular app).
>> > >
>> > > I only say this because I was visiting a friend a couple of months
>> > > ago and
>> > > when she logged on to her computer for me to use, I noticed that her
>> > > brother
>> > > had set up his Yahoo Messenger account. One of his chat friends
>> > > started
>> > > chatting with me. When I let my friend's brother know about it, he
>> > > was
>> > > incredulous; he had no idea he had set auto login.
>> > >
>> > > This may not be the case at all in your situations, but the point is
>> > > to be
>> > > careful to pay attention to the settings when setting up apps such as
>> > > e-mail
>> > > and IM programs, especially on shared machines.
>> > >
>> > > "Robert Moir" wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > TJ wrote:
>> > > > > I have had almost the exact situation occur, however someone
>> > > > > hacked
>> > > > > in and printed all my messages. I would also like to know where
>> > > > > this
>> > > > > occured from, possibly an IP address so that I can pass this info
>> > > > > on
>> > > > > to the authorities. Thank you, please help. This has caused a
>> > > > > great
>> > > > > personal problem for me, and may cost me custody of my children.
>> > > >
>> > > > in both cases, the most likely explanation is that someone
>> > > > installed a
>> > > > "keylogger" onto your computers to record your activity. If anyone
>> > > > else uses
>> > > > your computer and has admin rights then you cannot trust that
>> > > > computer if
>> > > > you do not also trust the admin.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >

bug
Tue May 09 02:55:02 CDT 2006

Well, I can understand that.....

Problem:
- I haven';t done turned automatic logon on
- Surely, if I delete the messenger and download again, that may help me
though not sure, I used messenger to contact with my family.
- I find it very strange though I am not login in my hotmail messenger, but
somehow message pop up in the right corner that my add contact have login in,
then I can chat with them without connecting from my messenger, If I log in
from my messenger then automitically, my present personal chat room was not
to chat again...

My concern:
- I am thinking if someone is log in from remote, not just my messenger but
even my system.

I will appreciate your help.
Rock, england








"Tariq" wrote:

> This is just a simple issue and nobody has hakcked your system.
>
> This happens due to simultaneous logon on "windows messenger" and "MSN
> Messennger" if you have turned automatic logon on.
>
> There are two resolutions to the issue.
> 1. Remove windows Messenger
> 2. Disable automatic Logon on MSN Messenger.
>
> Hope it helps
>
> Tariq
>
> "bug" <bug@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:020ED781-B957-47CF-B5F4-3ABCC307C145@microsoft.com...
> >I got the same kind of problem, whenever start my computer, automatically
> > message pop up in the rigth corner that will let me if someone in my add a
> > contact log in. Though I haven't log in my messanger. How can I overcome
> > this
> > problem. I know someone is controlling my messager, I am woried about the
> > situation.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > rock
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Charlie" wrote:
> >
> >> Yup, they are out there and easy to get a hold of.
> >> I work at a major university and a couple of years ago a student used one
> >> on
> >> a bunch of machines to steal faculty, staff and student passwords.
> >> Fortunately he got caught and was prosecuted.
> >>
> >> This got picked up by the media, so you can imagine the PR problem that
> >> it
> >> caused the University. In fact we didn't have a Chief Security Officer
> >> at
> >> that time, but we now have that and a whole department to go with him.
> >> It
> >> was all prompted by this incident.
> >>
> >> Interestingly, that anecdote helps make my point about sharing logon
> >> accounts. Admin rights were of course needed to install the keylogger
> >> software. In some cases the student was able to do so because he would
> >> grab
> >> a machine that someone with Admin rights hadn't logged off of. Although
> >> mostly he targetted Windows 9x boxes, on which the world has Admin
> >> rights.
> >> Another of the many reasons that that OS never had any business being in
> >> the
> >> workplace. Same can be said of pre-OSX Macs.
> >>
> >> BTW - Glad to hear that he's your EX husband!
> >>
> >> "smd9296" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Two years ago, I had a suspicion that my email was being read by my
> >> > (now ex)
> >> > husband. Determined to find out for sure, I emailed my sister and said
> >> > some
> >> > unflattering things about him. When he came home from work that day,
> >> > he was
> >> > furious with me for saying these things. He had no way of knowing my
> >> > password (mine are always obscure), but had installed a keylogger.
> >> >
> >> > "Charlie" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > It also could be as simple this:
> >> > > You used someone else's computer while logged on with an account that
> >> > > others
> >> > > use. You set up your MSN account, and unfortunately those things
> >> > > tend to
> >> > > save passwords and start at login by default (not real familiar with
> >> > > MSN
> >> > > Messenger, so I may be wrong about that particular app).
> >> > >
> >> > > I only say this because I was visiting a friend a couple of months
> >> > > ago and
> >> > > when she logged on to her computer for me to use, I noticed that her
> >> > > brother
> >> > > had set up his Yahoo Messenger account. One of his chat friends
> >> > > started
> >> > > chatting with me. When I let my friend's brother know about it, he
> >> > > was
> >> > > incredulous; he had no idea he had set auto login.
> >> > >
> >> > > This may not be the case at all in your situations, but the point is
> >> > > to be
> >> > > careful to pay attention to the settings when setting up apps such as
> >> > > e-mail
> >> > > and IM programs, especially on shared machines.
> >> > >
> >> > > "Robert Moir" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > TJ wrote:
> >> > > > > I have had almost the exact situation occur, however someone
> >> > > > > hacked
> >> > > > > in and printed all my messages. I would also like to know where
> >> > > > > this
> >> > > > > occured from, possibly an IP address so that I can pass this info
> >> > > > > on
> >> > > > > to the authorities. Thank you, please help. This has caused a
> >> > > > > great
> >> > > > > personal problem for me, and may cost me custody of my children.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > in both cases, the most likely explanation is that someone
> >> > > > installed a
> >> > > > "keylogger" onto your computers to record your activity. If anyone
> >> > > > else uses
> >> > > > your computer and has admin rights then you cannot trust that
> >> > > > computer if
> >> > > > you do not also trust the admin.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
>
>
>