have dsl need to set security for grandkids

I just got dsl and love it. But the Westell dsl thing that hooks up has caused a problem I did not expect.
My grandchildren can just log-on to the internet when they want to because it is always on.
How can I fix my settings so that in XP when the grandkids are logged on their own account, they do not have the option to just go on line when they want to. I let them play games on the computer when I am busy but want to watch them if they are on the internet
Chat_TNchip

Gerald
Fri May 21 16:54:29 CDT 2004

Chat_TNchip schrieb:

> I just got dsl and love it. But the Westell dsl thing that hooks up has caused a problem I did not expect.
> My grandchildren can just log-on to the internet when they want to because it is always on.
> How can I fix my settings so that in XP when the grandkids are logged on their own account, they do not have the option to just go on line when they want to. I let them play games on the computer when I am busy but want to watch them if they are on the internet

The only sure thing is to unplug DSL. Any program or software you
install to do something similar requires a password or something
similar. And particularly children are extremely creative in finding
solutions for things that parents try to prevent them to do. And
experience shows they succeed in the end.

Gerald

PA
Fri May 21 16:58:08 CDT 2004

See this page: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=267930
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Chat_TNchip wrote:
> I just got dsl and love it. But the Westell dsl thing that hooks up has
> caused a problem I did not expect.
> My grandchildren can just log-on to the internet when they want to
> because it is always on.
> How can I fix my settings so that in XP when the grandkids are logged on
> their own account, they do not have the option to just go on line when
> they want to. I let them play games on the computer when I am busy but
> want to watch them if they are on the internet Chat_TNchip

anonymous
Fri May 21 21:16:03 CDT 2004

Thanks PA Bear, I will try. It seems simple. But it will have to wait until next week... thank you so much!

PA
Fri May 21 22:02:01 CDT 2004

YW.

chat_tnchip wrote:
> Thanks PA Bear, I will try. It seems simple. But it will have to wait
> until next week... thank you so much!

anonymous
Sat May 22 13:21:01 CDT 2004

Help Bear or any one else out there, the instruction on that page lead me to believe I would have to know where I wanted to allow the kids to go on the net and pre-approve them. The kids (age 15 & 14) are the experts! I know nothing about computers. I hoped they would show me a few interesting sites
It won't work for me to pre-approve.
What I need is;
First to allow them on the computer to play games any time they are here.
Second to only allow NET usage when I am aware of it - me only control of the gate to internet
I guess I thought the Internet Eplorer had a gate/password protect area I could turn on, and why doesn't it?

Lionel
Sat May 22 13:43:26 CDT 2004

"chat_tnchip" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message
de news:75606586-3483-4C97-BF8F-391CB60F18F9@microsoft.com...
> Help Bear or any one else out there, the instruction on that page lead me
to believe I would have to know where I wanted to allow the kids to go on
the net and pre-approve them. The kids (age 15 & 14) are the experts! I
know nothing about computers.

Then they will probably find a way around whatever you try.
E.g. if you add a password to Internet Explorer, they will just
install another web browser. I'd have to build a _very_ secure
configuration to block everything they ate likely to try.

Possibly you should try a non-software approch, i.e. unplug the
connection cable, or, better, have a serious talk with them.

Gerald
Sat May 22 13:46:49 CDT 2004

chat_tnchip schrieb:

> Help Bear or any one else out there, the instruction on that page lead me to believe I would have to know where I wanted to allow the kids to go on the net and pre-approve them. The kids (age 15 & 14) are the experts! I know nothing about computers. I hoped they would show me a few interesting sites!
> It won't work for me to pre-approve.
> What I need is;
> First to allow them on the computer to play games any time they are here.
> Second to only allow NET usage when I am aware of it - me only control of the gate to internet.
> I guess I thought the Internet Eplorer had a gate/password protect area I could turn on, and why doesn't it?

It is Internet Explorer. Either you get a browser that supports
something like that (but be aware, there is always some cracking
software available somewhere to crack a password, which your grandkids
could get from a friend on a CD which you also have to prevent...) or if
you really want to be on the safe side (and it is the only way to be) as
I posted before, take away the cable or the DSL modem, whatever. Only if
there is no physical connection to the internet it is actually
child-proof. Anything else will not work in the end...

Gerald

PA
Sat May 22 16:32:18 CDT 2004

It's /your/ machine, not theirs. Have 'em show you where they want to go,
take a look at it and if you approve, allow the site(s).

They should not be using your Windows Profile/Log-on. Create one especially
for and tailored to (each of) them.

Net Nanny might be of help (http://www.net-nanny-software.com/) but nothing
can take the place of *Adult* *Supervision*. Your best tool is the word
*no* and your grandchildren will thank you for enforcing it...eventually.
<WINK>
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chat_tnchip wrote:
> Help Bear or any one else out there, the instruction on that page lead me
> to believe I would have to know where I wanted to allow the kids to go on
> the net and pre-approve them. The kids (age 15 & 14) are the experts!
> I know nothing about computers. I hoped they would show me a few
> interesting sites! It won't work for me to pre-approve.
> What I need is;
> First to allow them on the computer to play games any time they are here.
> Second to only allow NET usage when I am aware of it - me only control of
> the gate to internet.
> I guess I thought the Internet Eplorer had a gate/password protect area I
> could turn on, and why doesn't it?

Sandi
Sun May 23 01:16:53 CDT 2004

The kids 'think' they are experts; you can consider using MSN Explorer (the
pay for version). You can use any ISP you want, and you can set parental
controls suitable for their age group. Then they can access many sites, some
will need your approval. I really like the regular email that I can
regarding my two kids (close to the same age) telling me what sites they
have gone to, whether they've been chatting online, emails going back and
forth etc.

Or, you can use 'Content Advisor' which allows you to restrict access to
sites. Go to IE help menu, do a search for 'content advisor' for more
information. Unfortunately CA does depend on sites being 'rated' so its not
a perfect fix.

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chat_tnchip wrote:
> Help Bear or any one else out there, the instruction on that page
> lead me to believe I would have to know where I wanted to allow the
> kids to go on the net and pre-approve them. The kids (age 15 & 14)
> are the experts! I know nothing about computers. I hoped they would
> show me a few interesting sites! It won't work for me to pre-approve.
> What I need is;
> First to allow them on the computer to play games any time they are
> here.
> Second to only allow NET usage when I am aware of it - me only
> control of the gate to internet.
> I guess I thought the Internet Eplorer had a gate/password protect
> area I could turn on, and why doesn't it?

anonymous
Sun May 23 20:26:02 CDT 2004

I think everybody has missed my point. I am not computer savy enough to load ultimate control type stuff. The kids are normal kids. Not really bad at all. Simple to the point... they love being on the computer. I don't mind because they play games, write poetry, make beautiful cards. All the stuff I wanted them to be able to do at my house.
I just want to know when they get on the internet so I can be more observant at that time! When I had dial up I simply kept the log on password to myself and we all enjoyed the fun. NOW that I have an always on DSL hook up I don't like it
My grandchildren are good but they are children, I just want to be a responsible grandparent. I don't leave them here alone
Can anybody please tell me a simple way to password protect Internet Explorer?
We are not dealing with Jack the Ripper or Bonnie and Clyde.

Jim
Sun May 23 21:19:16 CDT 2004


"chat_tnchip" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1D7BE012-3785-48F2-AAA4-31EC763AC7D4@microsoft.com...
> Can anybody please tell me a simple way to password protect Internet
Explorer?
> We are not dealing with Jack the Ripper or Bonnie and Clyde.

I know what you mean. I have kids and I don't have ironclad security,
because I have pretty good feel for what they will and won't try.

I assume your DSL is connected directly to your computer. You (or the DSL
provider) probably installed some software that makes a connection analogous
to dial up but without the "dial." A user name and password is stored with
the connection. You should know these. If you don't call the company and
find out. The DSL (likely PPPoE) connection will show up in network
connections like any other. You can simply right click it and disconnect it,
and reconnect at will. Or, if you wish, blank out the password so you have
to enter it each time. But disconnecting it may be enough, depending on how
your grandkids react.

If you can't find what I am talking about, post here again.
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Sandi
Mon May 24 05:08:07 CDT 2004

My kids are good kids too, but given the chance they would be on the
internet all day.

You can set time limits for internet access using Windows XP.

For example:

To set time restrictions:
1. Click Start
2. Click Run
3. Type cmd in the run box and press enter.
4. An example:

net user username /times:M-F,5pm-9pm; Sa,6am-9pm;Su,6am-9pm

username is replaced with the local account name.

To Remove Restrictions:
1. Click Start
2. Click Run
3. Type cmd in the run box and press enter.
4. An example:

net user username /times:all

username is replaced with the local account name.

There is no way to password protect Internet Explorer without third party
software.

Or there are third party browser controls, like this one:
http://www.codework.com/bcontrol/product.html

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chat_tnchip wrote:
> I think everybody has missed my point. I am not computer savy enough
> to load ultimate control type stuff. The kids are normal kids. Not
> really bad at all. Simple to the point... they love being on the
> computer. I don't mind because they play games, write poetry, make
> beautiful cards. All the stuff I wanted them to be able to do at my
> house. I just want to know when they get on the internet so I can be
> more observant at that time! When I had dial up I simply kept the
> log on password to myself and we all enjoyed the fun. NOW that I
> have an always on DSL hook up I don't like it!
> My grandchildren are good but they are children, I just want to be a
> responsible grandparent. I don't leave them here alone.
> Can anybody please tell me a simple way to password protect Internet
> Explorer?
> We are not dealing with Jack the Ripper or Bonnie and Clyde.

Brian
Mon May 24 07:38:54 CDT 2004

If they are already 14 or 15. They have already tried the bad sites
out thier from home. Almost everyone does at least once. If not at
home. At friends house or even school. I know. However, in are
family. We think it is inappropriate to go to someone house family or
friend and use their computer. We consider the computer private.



I

>On Mon, 24 May 2004 18:08:07 +0800, "Sandi - Microsoft MVP" <sandi_hardmeier@mvps.org> wrote:

>My kids are good kids too, but given the chance they would be on the
>internet all day.
>
>You can set time limits for internet access using Windows XP.
>
>For example:
>
>To set time restrictions:
>1. Click Start
>2. Click Run
>3. Type cmd in the run box and press enter.
>4. An example:
>
>net user username /times:M-F,5pm-9pm; Sa,6am-9pm;Su,6am-9pm
>
>username is replaced with the local account name.
>
>To Remove Restrictions:
>1. Click Start
>2. Click Run
>3. Type cmd in the run box and press enter.
>4. An example:
>
>net user username /times:all
>
>username is replaced with the local account name.
>
>There is no way to password protect Internet Explorer without third party
>software.
>
>Or there are third party browser controls, like this one:
>http://www.codework.com/bcontrol/product.html

PA
Mon May 24 20:55:18 CDT 2004

Amen!

Brian C wrote:
> If they are already 14 or 15. They have already tried the bad sites
> out thier from home. Almost everyone does at least once. If not at
> home. At friends house or even school. I know. However, in are
> family. We think it is inappropriate to go to someone house family or
> friend and use their computer. We consider the computer private.