does microsoft send automatic secirity updates to your computer? i have an update icon on my toolbar that i cannot delete and it porports to be a microsoft security update - however i did not request this update. could it be a fake? it is not possible to 'cancel' the update when the window is opened.

false microsoft security updates by Bill

Bill
Sat Apr 17 21:01:31 CDT 2004


>-----Original Message-----
>does microsoft send automatic secirity updates to your
computer? i have an update icon on my toolbar that i
cannot delete and it porports to be a microsoft security
update - however i did not request this update. could it
be a fake? it is not possible to 'cancel' the update when
the window is opened.
>.
>
Well, that really is the microsoft security updater. It
comes built into the windows operating system. If you
want to edit the settings go to start > settings > control
panel then from there in some versions of windows their is
an icon for windows updates and in others like XP you open
up the system icon and select the automatic updates tab
from the top of the window. From there you can change the
settings. Generally it is best to have them downloaded
and installed automatically so you are up to date as soon
as MS releases the patches.

-Bill

RE: false microsoft security updates by anonymous

anonymous
Sat Apr 17 21:16:04 CDT 2004

Thanks very much Bill

- Nick

Re: false microsoft security updates by jmatt

jmatt
Sun Apr 18 02:26:39 CDT 2004


Auto updates can be turned off , need to know your operating system .

That is the 1st step , but it may turn out to be non MS


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Re: false microsoft security updates by Lanwench

Lanwench
Sun Apr 18 10:55:38 CDT 2004

Bill wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
<snip>
Generally it is best to have them downloaded
> and installed automatically so you are up to date as soon
> as MS releases the patches.

Actually, I prefer "download and prompt to install" - I like to have more
control over updates.
>
> -Bill



Re: false microsoft security updates by Tom

Tom
Sun Apr 18 11:18:37 CDT 2004

...plus, if they are installed without first turning off your virus auto
protect, you risk a good chance of corruption. That's why I, too, prefer to
do them manually.

Tom

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ueNZ93VJEHA.2880@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Bill wrote:
| >> -----Original Message-----
| <snip>
| Generally it is best to have them downloaded
| > and installed automatically so you are up to date as soon
| > as MS releases the patches.
|
| Actually, I prefer "download and prompt to install" - I like to have more
| control over updates.
| >
| > -Bill
|
|



Re: false microsoft security updates by Canadian

Canadian
Sun Apr 18 15:07:31 CDT 2004

Tom Pepper Willett wrote:

> ...plus, if they are installed without first turning off your virus auto
> protect, you risk a good chance of corruption. That's why I, too, prefer to
> do them manually.
>
> Tom
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ueNZ93VJEHA.2880@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | Bill wrote:
> | >> -----Original Message-----
> | <snip>
> | Generally it is best to have them downloaded
> | > and installed automatically so you are up to date as soon
> | > as MS releases the patches.
> |
> | Actually, I prefer "download and prompt to install" - I like to have more
> | control over updates.
> | >
> | > -Bill
> |
> |
>
>
Hi Tom.

I have never turned off my virus auto protect when installing Windows
updates (patches). I have never encountered a problem with any Windows
maintenance that I have applied. I am running Windows XP Home Edition,
and Norton Systemworks Professional 2002, if that makes any difference.
It is easy enough to turn off the Norton auto protect. I have never seen
anything in any Windows patches that required you to temporarily disable
your virus auto protect.

Cheers,
Canadian Cowboy.

Re: false microsoft security updates by Tom

Tom
Sun Apr 18 16:21:56 CDT 2004

It's like installing new programs or software on your computer. Running
auto protect can cause problems.

I have encountered many people who have run the updates while auto protect
has been on, and they have been badly corrupted.

Not to say that everyone will. I personally don't like to take the chance.

Tom
"Canadian Cowboy" <canadian.cowboy_at_sasktel.net> wrote in message
news:1085nvtf3egig01@corp.supernews.com...
| Tom Pepper Willett wrote:
|
| > ...plus, if they are installed without first turning off your virus auto
| > protect, you risk a good chance of corruption. That's why I, too,
prefer to
| > do them manually.
| >
| > Tom
| >
| > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
| > <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in
message
| > news:ueNZ93VJEHA.2880@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > | Bill wrote:
| > | >> -----Original Message-----
| > | <snip>
| > | Generally it is best to have them downloaded
| > | > and installed automatically so you are up to date as soon
| > | > as MS releases the patches.
| > |
| > | Actually, I prefer "download and prompt to install" - I like to have
more
| > | control over updates.
| > | >
| > | > -Bill
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
| Hi Tom.
|
| I have never turned off my virus auto protect when installing Windows
| updates (patches). I have never encountered a problem with any Windows
| maintenance that I have applied. I am running Windows XP Home Edition,
| and Norton Systemworks Professional 2002, if that makes any difference.
| It is easy enough to turn off the Norton auto protect. I have never seen
| anything in any Windows patches that required you to temporarily disable
| your virus auto protect.
|
| Cheers,
| Canadian Cowboy.



Re: false microsoft security updates by Canadian

Canadian
Sun Apr 18 17:30:29 CDT 2004

Tom Pepper Willett wrote:

> It's like installing new programs or software on your computer. Running
> auto protect can cause problems.
>
> I have encountered many people who have run the updates while auto protect
> has been on, and they have been badly corrupted.
>
> Not to say that everyone will. I personally don't like to take the chance.
>
> Tom
> "Canadian Cowboy" <canadian.cowboy_at_sasktel.net> wrote in message
> news:1085nvtf3egig01@corp.supernews.com...
> | Tom Pepper Willett wrote:
> |
> | > ...plus, if they are installed without first turning off your virus auto
> | > protect, you risk a good chance of corruption. That's why I, too,
> prefer to
> | > do them manually.
> | >
> | > Tom
> | >
> | > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> | > <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in
> message
> | > news:ueNZ93VJEHA.2880@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | > | Bill wrote:
> | > | >> -----Original Message-----
> | > | <snip>
> | > | Generally it is best to have them downloaded
> | > | > and installed automatically so you are up to date as soon
> | > | > as MS releases the patches.
> | > |
> | > | Actually, I prefer "download and prompt to install" - I like to have
> more
> | > | control over updates.
> | > | >
> | > | > -Bill
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> | Hi Tom.
> |
> | I have never turned off my virus auto protect when installing Windows
> | updates (patches). I have never encountered a problem with any Windows
> | maintenance that I have applied. I am running Windows XP Home Edition,
> | and Norton Systemworks Professional 2002, if that makes any difference.
> | It is easy enough to turn off the Norton auto protect. I have never seen
> | anything in any Windows patches that required you to temporarily disable
> | your virus auto protect.
> |
> | Cheers,
> | Canadian Cowboy.
>
>
Hi Tom.

It is good advice to shut down all other programs when applying patches
to the Windows XP operating system. Of course, I have backups to fall
back on, if I totally screw up my system. Never had to make use of them
yet, though. (Knock on wood.) Could it be that Microsoft has made
Windows XP more stable and robust that previous versions of Windows and
thus, installing patches isn't ask risky as it used to be? (I know, what
planet am I living on? grin)

If I may, I would like to suggest some software for Windows XP that you
and others might find of interest. A guy named Mike Lin has created two
very useful tools for Windows XP: Startup Control Panel and Startup
Monitor. The Start Control Panel is a way to administer all of the
startups on your XP system, for all users and the 'system' and 'default'
categories as well. The Startup Monitor, alerts you every time any
process tries to add something to the Windows registry to run
automatically. If you reply 'no' to the window program, the registry is
not updated, although the program making the request things that the
register was updated. This one program has been very useful to me in
preventing startups that I did not want running, such as the startups
for REALPLAYER. You can find out more at Mike's web site. Here is the
URL:
http://www.mlin.net/

Cheers,
Canadian Cowboy.

Re: false microsoft security updates by Bill

Bill
Mon Apr 19 01:44:19 CDT 2004


>-----Original Message-----
>Tom Pepper Willett wrote:
>
>> It's like installing new programs or software on your
computer. Running
>> auto protect can cause problems.
>>
>> I have encountered many people who have run the updates
while auto protect
>> has been on, and they have been badly corrupted.
>>
>> Not to say that everyone will. I personally don't like
to take the chance.
>>
>> Tom
>> "Canadian Cowboy" <canadian.cowboy_at_sasktel.net>
wrote in message
>> news:1085nvtf3egig01@corp.supernews.com...
>> | Tom Pepper Willett wrote:
>> |
>> | > ...plus, if they are installed without first
turning off your virus auto
>> | > protect, you risk a good chance of corruption.
That's why I, too,
>> prefer to
>> | > do them manually.
>> | >
>> | > Tom
>> | >
>> | > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> | >
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com>
wrote in
>> message
>> | > news:ueNZ93VJEHA.2880@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> | > | Bill wrote:
>> | > | >> -----Original Message-----
>> | > | <snip>
>> | > | Generally it is best to have them downloaded
>> | > | > and installed automatically so you are up to
date as soon
>> | > | > as MS releases the patches.
>> | > |
>> | > | Actually, I prefer "download and prompt to
install" - I like to have
>> more
>> | > | control over updates.
>> | > | >
>> | > | > -Bill
Well, I like to have it prompt me as well, but I find that
often as not when dealing with end users if they are
prompted they hit cancel and keep hitting cancel, so I
generally lock it down and make sure it does it
automatically, sicne they still have a chance to save any
info if a reboot is neccessary and I have complete backups
since all users work over terminal server. Generally I
find that if it just does it, it gets done much much
sooner. But I understand your sentiments.

-Bill

Re: false microsoft security updates by Lanwench

Lanwench
Mon Apr 19 10:33:58 CDT 2004

Bill wrote:
<snip>
Well, I like to have it prompt me as well, but I find that
> often as not when dealing with end users if they are
> prompted they hit cancel and keep hitting cancel, so I
> generally lock it down and make sure it does it
> automatically, sicne they still have a chance to save any
> info if a reboot is neccessary and I have complete backups
> since all users work over terminal server. Generally I
> find that if it just does it, it gets done much much
> sooner. But I understand your sentiments.

One issue is that users need local admin rights to install updates.
Another is that I wouldn't want any users having such rights on a TS box nor
have them install updates there....<shudder>
>
> -Bill