Why does Windows Explorer try to dial up?

Running Win98, Internet Explorer 5.5, ZoneAlarm, Norton AntiVirus 2003,
Turnpike 6.01, dial-up to the Internet.

I have been running the above on this stand-alone machine for about a
year, and run a full antivirus check whenever new NAV virus definition
updates appear (i.e. almost every day). I have never used any form of
Outlook.

No problems, until a few days ago. Now, in Windows Explorer, when I
attempt to delete files, Explorer sometimes attempts to dial up. The
sequence is the following:

1. Select the file(s) to delete.
2. Press the Delete key.
3. The Dial-up Connection box pops up. The automatic connection check
box is unchecked, so it does not actually dial.
4. Close the dial-up connection box.
5. The normal file deletion process continues.

This morning, the same thing happened when I attempted to display the
properties of a file.

If I attempt to do these things while already on-line, ZoneAlarm
sometimes pops up asking if I want to allow Explorer to connect to the
Internet (saying that it has already done so previously). I always say
no.

I am mystified. Why is Explorer trying to dial up? Should I be worried?

--
Ian

John
Fri Feb 13 03:09:43 CST 2004

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 at 07:51:24, Ian wrote in demon.ip.support.turnpike
(Reference: <AUSFH1F8HILAFwDK@netro.co.uk>)


>I am mystified. Why is Explorer trying to dial up? Should I be worried?

This is not a Turnpike matter except in so far as your default DUN
connection is the one used by Connect so that Connect is started
whenever anything else on your system wants to make an Internet
connection.

Without knowing anything about the file you are trying to delete it is
impossible even to guess what might be causing a dial-up. I have just
tried deleting a short-cut to a web address without, apparently, trying
to establish an Internet connection and it is difficult/impossible to
see why the content of a file should have any effect if you are deleting
it.

I have no idea whether this should be a cause of worry (which, as a
fail-safe, is a good reason for worrying). d.i.s.t is not likely to be
your best source of a solution, whether m.p.s is is another matter.


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Paul
Fri Feb 13 03:43:36 CST 2004

In message <AUSFH1F8HILAFwDK@netro.co.uk>, Ian <news@care4free.net>
writes

>Running Win98, Internet Explorer 5.5, ZoneAlarm, Norton AntiVirus 2003,
>Turnpike 6.01, dial-up to the Internet.
>
>I have been running the above on this stand-alone machine for about a
>year, and run a full antivirus check whenever new NAV virus definition
>updates appear (i.e. almost every day). I have never used any form of
>Outlook.
>
>No problems, until a few days ago. Now, in Windows Explorer, when I
>attempt to delete files, Explorer sometimes attempts to dial up.

I don't think this is a Turnpike question. Your first suspicion should
be that you have been infected by a parasite (something not normally
detected by anti-virus software).

You can make a quick check by going to http://www.doxdesk.com/

- if anything untoward is found (such as a dialler parasite) it will be
reported in a red box near the top of the webpage.

--
Paul Terry

Sandi
Fri Feb 13 06:37:48 CST 2004

Advice here:
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/answers_10.htm#launch

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_______________________________________
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http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer

"Ian" <news@care4free.net> wrote in message
news:AUSFH1F8HILAFwDK@netro.co.uk...
> Running Win98, Internet Explorer 5.5, ZoneAlarm, Norton AntiVirus 2003,
> Turnpike 6.01, dial-up to the Internet.
>
> I have been running the above on this stand-alone machine for about a
> year, and run a full antivirus check whenever new NAV virus definition
> updates appear (i.e. almost every day). I have never used any form of
> Outlook.
>
> No problems, until a few days ago. Now, in Windows Explorer, when I
> attempt to delete files, Explorer sometimes attempts to dial up. The
> sequence is the following:
>
> 1. Select the file(s) to delete.
> 2. Press the Delete key.
> 3. The Dial-up Connection box pops up. The automatic connection check box
> is unchecked, so it does not actually dial.
> 4. Close the dial-up connection box.
> 5. The normal file deletion process continues.
>
> This morning, the same thing happened when I attempted to display the
> properties of a file.
>
> If I attempt to do these things while already on-line, ZoneAlarm sometimes
> pops up asking if I want to allow Explorer to connect to the Internet
> (saying that it has already done so previously). I always say no.
>
> I am mystified. Why is Explorer trying to dial up? Should I be worried?
>
> --
> Ian

Ian
Fri Feb 13 07:38:47 CST 2004

Thanks Sandi.

Following the advise in your link, a couple of facts emerge:

1.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/explorer/Bro
wseNewProcess is set to yes (and the machine has 128MB RAM), so that
looks OK.

2. HKEY_CURRENT_USER/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/explorer/
exists, but BrowseNewProcess below that does not. Should I create it and
set it to yes?

--
Ian


In message <uRuBI1i8DHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, Sandi - Microsoft
MVP <sandi_hardmeier@mvps.org> writes
>Advice here:
>http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/answers_10.htm#launch
>

Sandi
Fri Feb 13 07:50:17 CST 2004

Give it a try; see how you go.

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_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer

"Ian" <news@care4free.net> wrote in message
news:Cj01qUNnNNLAFwRp@netro.co.uk...
> Thanks Sandi.
>
> Following the advise in your link, a couple of facts emerge:
>
> 1.
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/explorer/Bro
> wseNewProcess is set to yes (and the machine has 128MB RAM), so that looks
> OK.
>
> 2. HKEY_CURRENT_USER/software/microsoft/windows/currentversion/explorer/
> exists, but BrowseNewProcess below that does not. Should I create it and
> set it to yes?
>
> --
> Ian
>
>
> In message <uRuBI1i8DHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, Sandi - Microsoft MVP
> <sandi_hardmeier@mvps.org> writes
>>Advice here:
>>http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/answers_10.htm#launch
>>

Andy
Fri Feb 13 10:57:17 CST 2004

In message <uRuBI1i8DHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, Sandi - Microsoft
MVP <sandi_hardmeier@mvps.org> wrote
>Advice here:
>http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/answers_10.htm#launch
>
Sandi, somehow you have managed to get the whole of Ian's post into the
signature of yours! Was this intended?
--
Andy
For Austria & its philately, Lupus, & much else visit
<URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/>

David
Fri Feb 13 14:21:02 CST 2004

In article <AvfED$EtHQLAFwAn@kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk>, Andy
<andy@kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk> writes
>In message <uRuBI1i8DHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, Sandi - Microsoft
>MVP <sandi_hardmeier@mvps.org> wrote
>>Advice here:
>>http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/answers_10.htm#launch
>>
>Sandi, somehow you have managed to get the whole of Ian's post into the
>signature of yours! Was this intended?

This is something I am noticing with increasing frequency on other NGs.
ISTM that most or all of the "offenders" are using OE (as is Sandi), so
I can only assume it is some new piece of lunacy in a recent version of
that software.

It is of course extremely annoying, since all previous material is
automatically "snipped" by other, well-behaved applications such as TP
and one thus cannot easily refer to it in a reply.
--
David Littlewood

Sandi
Fri Feb 13 19:45:42 CST 2004

I top post. Nothing new in that ;o)

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_______________________________________
Sandi - Microsoft MVP since 1999 (IE/OE)
http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer

"Andy" <andy@kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:AvfED$EtHQLAFwAn@kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk...
> In message <uRuBI1i8DHA.3880@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, Sandi - Microsoft MVP
> <sandi_hardmeier@mvps.org> wrote
>>Advice here:
>>http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/answers_10.htm#launch
>>
> Sandi, somehow you have managed to get the whole of Ian's post into the
> signature of yours! Was this intended?
> --
> Andy
> For Austria & its philately, Lupus, & much else visit
> <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/>

user
Sat Feb 14 06:40:31 CST 2004

On Mnemosyne's memorable day known as Fri, 13 Feb 2004 07:51:24 +0000
Calliope probably had an extremely bad hair day to prompt her sister Thalia
in mockingly inspiring Ian <news@care4free.net> to write in his/her epistle
<AUSFH1F8HILAFwDK@netro.co.uk> thus:

> Running Win98, Internet Explorer 5.5, ZoneAlarm, Norton AntiVirus 2003,
> Turnpike 6.01, dial-up to the Internet.
>
> I have been running the above on this stand-alone machine for about a
> year, and run a full antivirus check whenever new NAV virus definition
> updates appear (i.e. almost every day). I have never used any form of
> Outlook.
>
> No problems, until a few days ago. Now, in Windows Explorer, when I
> attempt to delete files, Explorer sometimes attempts to dial up. The
> sequence is the following:
>
> 1. Select the file(s) to delete.
> 2. Press the Delete key.
> 3. The Dial-up Connection box pops up. The automatic connection check
> box is unchecked, so it does not actually dial.
> 4. Close the dial-up connection box.
> 5. The normal file deletion process continues.
>
> This morning, the same thing happened when I attempted to display the
> properties of a file.
>
> If I attempt to do these things while already on-line, ZoneAlarm
> sometimes pops up asking if I want to allow Explorer to connect to the
> Internet (saying that it has already done so previously). I always say
> no.
>
> I am mystified. Why is Explorer trying to dial up?

Okay, did you ever check in your Internet Explorer settings under Options |
Advanced | Security if the first two checkable 'checks' are checked by any
chance? Namely the ones that check for retracted/cancelled certificates from
servers and/or publishers?
Just make sure those are unchecked, and see further down below this row of
options whether it is set that Internet Explorer should automatically check
if updates/newer versions of IE are available. Kill that off too and really,
Windows Explorer will never, ever, ever dial-up automatically when deleting
or right clicking a file in an Explorer-screen.

Hate to demystify ya, but since you asked.

>Should I be worried?

Nah. Don't bother.

User...

Ian
Sun Feb 15 02:11:39 CST 2004

Thanks user.

"Check for publisher's cert revocation" and "Automatically check for IE
updates" were checked, so I have now unchecked them. Let's see what
happens now.

--
Ian

In message <c0l4qa$19233i$1@ID-197407.news.uni-berlin.de>, user
<eme@privacy.net> writes

>Okay, did you ever check in your Internet Explorer settings under Options |
>Advanced | Security if the first two checkable 'checks' are checked by any
>chance? Namely the ones that check for retracted/cancelled certificates from
>servers and/or publishers?
>Just make sure those are unchecked, and see further down below this row of
>options whether it is set that Internet Explorer should automatically check
>if updates/newer versions of IE are available. Kill that off too and really,
>Windows Explorer will never, ever, ever dial-up automatically when deleting
>or right clicking a file in an Explorer-screen.
>

John
Sun Feb 15 13:32:35 CST 2004

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 at 09:45:42, Sandi - Microsoft MVP wrote in
demon.ip.support.turnpike
(Reference: <#BXzYtp8DHA.1640@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>)


>I top post. Nothing new in that ;o)

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That is just as well, otherwise people would have even more problems following
up and reading such follow-ups.

Ian
Mon Feb 16 03:02:01 CST 2004

Hello again user. Unchecking one or both of those options seems to have
done the trick. Strange thing is, the problem of Windows Explorer
dialing up by itself only appeared a few days ago, yet I haven't
(knowingly) fiddled with those options for months.

Thanks again for your input.

--
Ian

In message <WfzwVpC7myLAFwAN@netro.co.uk>, Ian <news@care4free.net>
writes
>Thanks user.
>
>"Check for publisher's cert revocation" and "Automatically check for IE
>updates" were checked, so I have now unchecked them. Let's see what
>happens now.
>

Andy
Mon Feb 16 04:32:24 CST 2004

In message <dFISjvBJcIMAFwZC@netro.co.uk>, Ian <news@care4free.net>
wrote
>Hello again user. Unchecking one or both of those options seems to have
>done the trick. Strange thing is, the problem of Windows Explorer
>dialing up by itself only appeared a few days ago, yet I haven't
>(knowingly) fiddled with those options for months.
>
Have you installed a new program, or updated an existing one, which
might have done it?
--
Andy
For Austria & its philately, Lupus, & much else visit
<URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/>

user
Mon Feb 16 14:56:15 CST 2004

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:02:01 +0000 Ian <news@care4free.net> remarked:

> Hello again user. Unchecking one or both of those options seems to have
> done the trick. Strange thing is, the problem of Windows Explorer
> dialing up by itself only appeared a few days ago, yet I haven't
> (knowingly) fiddled with those options for months.

I know...It's Windows. What else can I say?

> Thanks again for your input.

Quite welcome.

User...