Hi. I use 'clean up' on 2 of my desk tops. It appears to work fine and have
never had a problem with that progrm. I installed 'clean up" on my new HP
Laptop.and as soon as I finished runing the program, everything went weird.
I did a system restore in safe mode, and all is fine now. luckily for me.
after this I did a bit of reading and it appears that this has been the case
for HP laptops from other people. Can anyone recomend a clean up program
that is safe to use and does not require for me to be a pro at computers . I
like keeping my pc's junk free (as can be) thnks

Re: clean up programs by Lanwench

Lanwench
Sat Mar 25 10:20:13 CST 2006



In news:OMwuHy6TGHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
Cynanthis <nospam@nospam.com> typed:
> Hi. I use 'clean up' on 2 of my desk tops. It appears to work fine
> and have never had a problem with that progrm. I installed 'clean up"
> on my new HP Laptop.and as soon as I finished runing the program,
> everything went weird. I did a system restore in safe mode, and all
> is fine now. luckily for me. after this I did a bit of reading and it
> appears that this has been the case for HP laptops from other people.
> Can anyone recomend a clean up program that is safe to use and does
> not require for me to be a pro at computers . I like keeping my pc's
> junk free (as can be) thnks

I don't know what software you're talking about (what exactly is 'clean up'
and who makes it?)

Why do you actually think you need such a program in the first place? With
regards to keeping your computers 'clean', it's mostly a matter of
practicing safe hex...and you can periodically run disk cleanup to get rid
of temp files, etc.

I tend to avoid third party products that purport to "clean up" Windows.
Especially anything that touches the registry. Yes, you'll always have some
shards of old stuff in there, but they don't really do any harm--whereas a
piece of software that goes in and removes things it doesn't believe you
need, can do a great deal of harm.



Re: clean up programs by Cynanthis

Cynanthis
Sat Mar 25 10:49:01 CST 2006

Hi lanwench! Well the program I am talking about is kind of like crap
cleaner. which appareantly does more than the disk clean up. When I run
"cleanup" on my desktops, it cleans and removes prefetch files, temp files,
etc. which, they say, can free up disk space and help a pc run smoother. and
since my desk tops only have 256 ram and 40 gb, AND I have alot of pictures
from my work, then I use it in hope of doing what it says.
And YES,,,,, I do wonder if it does make a difference.
Now, in regards to the laptop, it has twice as much (512ram and 80 gb). and
I dont plan to clutter it up with my work photos. but you know how that
goes.
Here is the link to the program clean up. perhaps you have heard about it.
http://www.stevengould.org/software/cleanup/
(I first used this program on my friends pc that I was helping her with,
because she had an infestd pc-a reputable Ngroup person rcommended
it)....And I justt thought that I can keep my LT a bit less cluttered by
using such programs.thanks for any input
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
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>
>
> In news:OMwuHy6TGHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
> Cynanthis <nospam@nospam.com> typed:
>> Hi. I use 'clean up' on 2 of my desk tops. It appears to work fine
>> and have never had a problem with that progrm. I installed 'clean up"
>> on my new HP Laptop.and as soon as I finished runing the program,
>> everything went weird. I did a system restore in safe mode, and all
>> is fine now. luckily for me. after this I did a bit of reading and it
>> appears that this has been the case for HP laptops from other people.
>> Can anyone recomend a clean up program that is safe to use and does
>> not require for me to be a pro at computers . I like keeping my pc's
>> junk free (as can be) thnks
>
> I don't know what software you're talking about (what exactly is 'clean
> up' and who makes it?)
>
> Why do you actually think you need such a program in the first place? With
> regards to keeping your computers 'clean', it's mostly a matter of
> practicing safe hex...and you can periodically run disk cleanup to get rid
> of temp files, etc.
>
> I tend to avoid third party products that purport to "clean up" Windows.
> Especially anything that touches the registry. Yes, you'll always have
> some shards of old stuff in there, but they don't really do any
> harm--whereas a piece of software that goes in and removes things it
> doesn't believe you need, can do a great deal of harm.
>



Re: clean up programs by Lanwench

Lanwench
Sat Mar 25 23:30:00 CST 2006



In news:%2324UHwCUGHA.4132@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl,
Cynanthis <nospam@nospam.com> typed:
> Hi lanwench! Well the program I am talking about is kind of like crap
> cleaner. which appareantly does more than the disk clean up. When I
> run "cleanup" on my desktops, it cleans and removes prefetch files,
> temp files, etc. which, they say, can free up disk space and help a
> pc run smoother. and since my desk tops only have 256 ram and 40 gb,
> AND I have alot of pictures from my work, then I use it in hope of
> doing what it says. And YES,,,,, I do wonder if it does make a difference.
> Now, in regards to the laptop, it has twice as much (512ram and 80
> gb). and I dont plan to clutter it up with my work photos. but you
> know how that goes.
> Here is the link to the program clean up. perhaps you have heard
> about it. http://www.stevengould.org/software/cleanup/
> (I first used this program on my friends pc that I was helping her
> with, because she had an infestd pc-a reputable Ngroup person
> rcommended it)....And I justt thought that I can keep my LT a bit
> less cluttered by using such programs.thanks for any input

It's really not that hard to keep your computer 'clean' without using third
party software. Some of that stuff is good, some is sketchy, and I'm too
much of a control freak to run any of it myself. Your mileage may vary. :)


> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
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>>
>>
>> In news:OMwuHy6TGHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
>> Cynanthis <nospam@nospam.com> typed:
>>> Hi. I use 'clean up' on 2 of my desk tops. It appears to work fine
>>> and have never had a problem with that progrm. I installed 'clean
>>> up" on my new HP Laptop.and as soon as I finished runing the
>>> program, everything went weird. I did a system restore in safe
>>> mode, and all is fine now. luckily for me. after this I did a bit
>>> of reading and it appears that this has been the case for HP
>>> laptops from other people. Can anyone recomend a clean up program
>>> that is safe to use and does not require for me to be a pro at
>>> computers . I like keeping my pc's junk free (as can be) thnks
>>
>> I don't know what software you're talking about (what exactly is
>> 'clean up' and who makes it?)
>>
>> Why do you actually think you need such a program in the first
>> place? With regards to keeping your computers 'clean', it's mostly a
>> matter of practicing safe hex...and you can periodically run disk
>> cleanup to get rid of temp files, etc.
>>
>> I tend to avoid third party products that purport to "clean up"
>> Windows. Especially anything that touches the registry. Yes, you'll
>> always have some shards of old stuff in there, but they don't really
>> do any harm--whereas a piece of software that goes in and removes
>> things it doesn't believe you need, can do a great deal of harm.



Re: clean up programs by Patrick

Patrick
Sun Mar 26 10:33:29 CST 2006

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
> In news:OMwuHy6TGHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
> Cynanthis <nospam@nospam.com> typed:
>> Hi. I use 'clean up' on 2 of my desk tops. It appears to work fine
>> and have never had a problem with that progrm. I installed 'clean up"
>> on my new HP Laptop.and as soon as I finished runing the program,
>> everything went weird. I did a system restore in safe mode, and all
>> is fine now. luckily for me. after this I did a bit of reading and it
>> appears that this has been the case for HP laptops from other people.
>> Can anyone recomend a clean up program that is safe to use and does
>> not require for me to be a pro at computers . I like keeping my pc's
>> junk free (as can be) thnks
>
> I don't know what software you're talking about (what exactly is 'clean up'
> and who makes it?)
>
> Why do you actually think you need such a program in the first place? With
> regards to keeping your computers 'clean', it's mostly a matter of
> practicing safe hex...and you can periodically run disk cleanup to get rid
> of temp files, etc.
>
> I tend to avoid third party products that purport to "clean up" Windows.
> Especially anything that touches the registry. Yes, you'll always have some
> shards of old stuff in there, but they don't really do any harm--whereas a
> piece of software that goes in and removes things it doesn't believe you
> need, can do a great deal of harm.
>
>

I agree with Lanwench about the Registry. However, I've used a few
third party cleaners along with XP's disk cleanup. Especially since
when I had Windows 2000, I ran into a bug where "Cleanup" (Windows 2000
cleanup that is) would lock up and force me to do a hard reboot.

The one that I use the most is called EasyCleaner by ToniArts. You can
find it at http://www.toniarts.com/easyclean or if you search around for
it on google, you can find his older freeware version also.

I would, however, stay away from SystemWorks and McAfee's version (if
they have one). Just because you'll get a lot of 'bloatware' for the
little bit you want/need. I've used SystemWorks (2003) and it was
alright. However, if you just want something to clean up, I wouldn't
recommend paying the money for all of the extras.

If, for some reason, you do decide to play with the Registry (I've done
it once or twice with EasyCleaner) before you even start the program,
open up Regedit or Regedit32 and do an export of all of your registry
keys. Save it to a .reg file on your C:\ (not in any sub folders) then
do the cleaner. That way, if for some reason, it does wipe out
something that you actually did need, you can always restore from that
backup. Plus, if the cleaner that you use doesn't let you select which
registry entries you can remove (EasyCleaner and a few others that I've
tried let you select the items) don't use it. Also, I would say before
you select anything that you're not familiar with, search online for
information about it.

HTH a little.
Patrick.