This morning I saw that a certain Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MVP, MCSE slammed me
for <quote/> "Distributing viruses, huh?" <end/quote> in response to my post
Subject: New CWShredder update available which was dated Wednesday, February
25, 2004 2:34 AM (MST)
news:eD#UZK4#DHA.2512@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl

I have not in anyway offered a link that contains a virus, or am in any way
distributing a virus! I demand a retraction and an apology from that person.

Now, you may follow through in a logical and orderly manner through these
links to see that the link I offered is Bona Fide and genuine, if you care
to do so.

Windows Support Center
James A. Eshelman, Proprietor & Webmaster
http://www.aumha.org/
http://www.aumha.org/support.htm
http://www.aumha.org/a/noads.htm
No www. is required for the link I initially offered for CWShredder at the
bottom of this page.
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.php
http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm

This website is about getting help solving computer problems and getting
support for Microsoft products using the Microsoft Communities, or the NNTP
equivalent, newsgroups.
http://www.dts-l.org/
http://www.dts-l.org/gallery.htm
Jim Eshelmans original link :
http://free.freespeech.org/Khephra/
now redirects to:
http://www.aumha.org/

So we have come full circle. I hope this will clarify matters as it appears
that some of you may have been put off by the name of the URL that was
offered. If you're not satisfied with this, I'm sorry, but it's the best I
could do to allay your concerns. If this has done nothing to assuage your
worries, *don't* install the update then. Suit yourselves and you be the
judge.

Again, I expect a full and complete apology from this person Svyatoslav
Pidgorny, who has wrongfully accused me of "distributing viruses".
--
LuckyStrike
LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
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Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by Larry

Larry
Wed Feb 25 13:16:06 CST 2004

Hi LuckyStrike,

I can't speak for Slav, but thank you for posting the link.
I haven't been able to update from Merijn's site for the last week or so and
I definitely appreciate the update.

--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
Associate Expert
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"LuckyStrike" <LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com> wrote in
message news:%23MZQw08%23DHA.2576@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> This morning I saw that a certain Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MVP, MCSE slammed
> me
> for <quote/> "Distributing viruses, huh?" <end/quote> in response to my
> post
> Subject: New CWShredder update available which was dated Wednesday,
> February
> 25, 2004 2:34 AM (MST)
> news:eD#UZK4#DHA.2512@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl
>
> I have not in anyway offered a link that contains a virus, or am in any
> way
> distributing a virus! I demand a retraction and an apology from that
> person.
>
> Now, you may follow through in a logical and orderly manner through these
> links to see that the link I offered is Bona Fide and genuine, if you care
> to do so.
>
> Windows Support Center
> James A. Eshelman, Proprietor & Webmaster
> http://www.aumha.org/
> http://www.aumha.org/support.htm
> http://www.aumha.org/a/noads.htm
> No www. is required for the link I initially offered for CWShredder at the
> bottom of this page.
> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.php
> http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
>
> This website is about getting help solving computer problems and getting
> support for Microsoft products using the Microsoft Communities, or the
> NNTP
> equivalent, newsgroups.
> http://www.dts-l.org/
> http://www.dts-l.org/gallery.htm
> Jim Eshelmans original link :
> http://free.freespeech.org/Khephra/
> now redirects to:
> http://www.aumha.org/
>
> So we have come full circle. I hope this will clarify matters as it
> appears
> that some of you may have been put off by the name of the URL that was
> offered. If you're not satisfied with this, I'm sorry, but it's the best I
> could do to allay your concerns. If this has done nothing to assuage your
> worries, *don't* install the update then. Suit yourselves and you be the
> judge.
>
> Again, I expect a full and complete apology from this person Svyatoslav
> Pidgorny, who has wrongfully accused me of "distributing viruses".
> --
> LuckyStrike
> LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by George

George
Wed Feb 25 13:35:04 CST 2004

You might also want to bookmark this page Larry
http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html

--
George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP

For Windows Troubleshooting Tips see;
http://aumha.org/win4/a/tshoot.htm

"Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23tt8WP9%23DHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| Hi LuckyStrike,
|
| I can't speak for Slav, but thank you for posting the link.
| I haven't been able to update from Merijn's site for the last week or so and
| I definitely appreciate the update.
|
| --
| Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
| Associate Expert
| Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
| http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
| Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
| "LuckyStrike" <LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com> wrote in
| message news:%23MZQw08%23DHA.2576@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > This morning I saw that a certain Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MVP, MCSE slammed
| > me
| > for <quote/> "Distributing viruses, huh?" <end/quote> in response to my
| > post
| > Subject: New CWShredder update available which was dated Wednesday,
| > February
| > 25, 2004 2:34 AM (MST)
| > news:eD#UZK4#DHA.2512@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl
| >
| > I have not in anyway offered a link that contains a virus, or am in any
| > way
| > distributing a virus! I demand a retraction and an apology from that
| > person.
| >
| > Now, you may follow through in a logical and orderly manner through these
| > links to see that the link I offered is Bona Fide and genuine, if you care
| > to do so.
| >
| > Windows Support Center
| > James A. Eshelman, Proprietor & Webmaster
| > http://www.aumha.org/
| > http://www.aumha.org/support.htm
| > http://www.aumha.org/a/noads.htm
| > No www. is required for the link I initially offered for CWShredder at the
| > bottom of this page.
| > http://aumha.org/a/parasite.php
| > http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
| >
| > This website is about getting help solving computer problems and getting
| > support for Microsoft products using the Microsoft Communities, or the
| > NNTP
| > equivalent, newsgroups.
| > http://www.dts-l.org/
| > http://www.dts-l.org/gallery.htm
| > Jim Eshelmans original link :
| > http://free.freespeech.org/Khephra/
| > now redirects to:
| > http://www.aumha.org/
| >
| > So we have come full circle. I hope this will clarify matters as it
| > appears
| > that some of you may have been put off by the name of the URL that was
| > offered. If you're not satisfied with this, I'm sorry, but it's the best I
| > could do to allay your concerns. If this has done nothing to assuage your
| > worries, *don't* install the update then. Suit yourselves and you be the
| > judge.
| >
| > Again, I expect a full and complete apology from this person Svyatoslav
| > Pidgorny, who has wrongfully accused me of "distributing viruses".
| > --
| > LuckyStrike
| > LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
| > --------------------------------------------------------------------
| >
| >
|
|


Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by George

George
Wed Feb 25 13:41:53 CST 2004

I'm with Larry on this one. I don't know where Slav came up with the
"distributing parasites" comment. Your links go to Jim Eshelman's site and Jim
is a very well known, highly respected, and long time member of the MVP
community. There is absolutely no reason to ever fear going to his pages. A
search of many MS groups will document the number of times that we send people
to Jim's invaluable pages and I even include one of them in my signature. I too
think you deserve an apology in this instance as does Jim Eshelman.

--
George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP

For Windows Troubleshooting Tips see;
http://aumha.org/win4/a/tshoot.htm

"LuckyStrike" <LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com> wrote in
message news:%23MZQw08%23DHA.2576@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| This morning I saw that a certain Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MVP, MCSE slammed me
| for <quote/> "Distributing viruses, huh?" <end/quote> in response to my post
| Subject: New CWShredder update available which was dated Wednesday, February
| 25, 2004 2:34 AM (MST)
| news:eD#UZK4#DHA.2512@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl
|
| I have not in anyway offered a link that contains a virus, or am in any way
| distributing a virus! I demand a retraction and an apology from that person.
|
| Now, you may follow through in a logical and orderly manner through these
| links to see that the link I offered is Bona Fide and genuine, if you care
| to do so.
|
| Windows Support Center
| James A. Eshelman, Proprietor & Webmaster
| http://www.aumha.org/
| http://www.aumha.org/support.htm
| http://www.aumha.org/a/noads.htm
| No www. is required for the link I initially offered for CWShredder at the
| bottom of this page.
| http://aumha.org/a/parasite.php
| http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
|
| This website is about getting help solving computer problems and getting
| support for Microsoft products using the Microsoft Communities, or the NNTP
| equivalent, newsgroups.
| http://www.dts-l.org/
| http://www.dts-l.org/gallery.htm
| Jim Eshelmans original link :
| http://free.freespeech.org/Khephra/
| now redirects to:
| http://www.aumha.org/
|
| So we have come full circle. I hope this will clarify matters as it appears
| that some of you may have been put off by the name of the URL that was
| offered. If you're not satisfied with this, I'm sorry, but it's the best I
| could do to allay your concerns. If this has done nothing to assuage your
| worries, *don't* install the update then. Suit yourselves and you be the
| judge.
|
| Again, I expect a full and complete apology from this person Svyatoslav
| Pidgorny, who has wrongfully accused me of "distributing viruses".
| --
| LuckyStrike
| LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
| --------------------------------------------------------------------
|
|


Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by Larry

Larry
Wed Feb 25 13:45:07 CST 2004

Thanks George!
That has definitely been added to bookmarks.

--
Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
Associate Expert
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <JustMe@nothome.net> wrote in message
news:eFBN4Z9%23DHA.3232@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> You might also want to bookmark this page Larry
> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
>
> --
> George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by LuckyStrike

LuckyStrike
Wed Feb 25 13:48:55 CST 2004

Doc and Larry,

You're both very welcome. I should have made it a bit more clear initially,
as the URL is one that does not have a very appealing nor inviting name.

Due to the DDoS Attack that has been ongoing for the last week or better,
most, as you well know, have been unable to access *any* program downloads,
updates, help sites such as Spyware Info, TomCoyote,Merijn and the like.
Customarily, Merjin will have 3, if not more, updates to CWShredder in a
weeks time. I just felt that somewhere one would find a site not yet hit by
the attack. I sure hope that Jim's site will help others with this, and he
offers a great Web Site in general. I'm also hoping that all of this
*attention* that has been made by having to repost and clarify all of this
will not bring any undue weight to bear upon his site, or the availability
of updates through the same link therein.

Thanks for your support, and my best regards.
--
LuckyStrike
LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------
"Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:%23tt8WP9%23DHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi LuckyStrike,
>
> I can't speak for Slav, but thank you for posting the link.
> I haven't been able to update from Merijn's site for the last week or so
and
> I definitely appreciate the update.
>
> --
> Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> Associate Expert
> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by LuckyStrike

LuckyStrike
Wed Feb 25 13:50:43 CST 2004

Still showing version 1.49 George, as I had pointed out in my initial post.
--
LS
--------------------------------------------------------------------
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <JustMe@nothome.net> wrote in message
news:eFBN4Z9%23DHA.3232@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> You might also want to bookmark this page Larry
> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
>
> --
> George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP
>
> For Windows Troubleshooting Tips see;
> http://aumha.org/win4/a/tshoot.htm
>



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by George

George
Wed Feb 25 13:52:26 CST 2004

No problem Larry.
You can thank Silj for that one. You might want to get him to add you to his
mailing list.

--
George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP

For Windows Troubleshooting Tips see;
http://aumha.org/win4/a/tshoot.htm

"Larry Samuels" <larry@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OJLqkf9%23DHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| Thanks George!
| That has definitely been added to bookmarks.
|
| --
| Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
| Associate Expert
| Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
| http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
| Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
| "George (Bindar Dundat)" <JustMe@nothome.net> wrote in message
| news:eFBN4Z9%23DHA.3232@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > You might also want to bookmark this page Larry
| > http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html
| >
| > --
| > George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP
|
|


Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by LuckyStrike

LuckyStrike
Wed Feb 25 14:04:52 CST 2004

George, I deeply appreciate your understanding and support on this. You
know, as do so many others of Jims wonderful site and his unflagging
devotion to helping others. I should have realized that the links URL might
have had "suspicious connotations" for those who lack that familiarity
however. By the same token, who the heck would try to spread a virus with a
link that said get virus download here? :-D

I would never knowingly -or in anyway- do such a thing as that of which I
was accused. The fact is, that I only have respect and regards of the
highest order for the MS newsgroups and those that come or "work" here. It
is also my feeling to try to help as much as I have been helped; *and* I
have been helped in so many ways by so many people both "known" (at this
point) and unknown. Sharing is the right thing to do.

I would just like to say in my own defense that being accused of
distributing viruses is a very serious matter, not to be taken lightly.

Again, I appreciate your kindness and your having stood behind me in
this.<S>

Best Regards,
--

LuckyStrike
LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------
"George (Bindar Dundat)" <JustMe@nothome.net> wrote in message
news:OupFsd9%23DHA.2636@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I'm with Larry on this one. I don't know where Slav came up with the
> "distributing parasites" comment. Your links go to Jim Eshelman's site
and Jim
> is a very well known, highly respected, and long time member of the MVP
> community. There is absolutely no reason to ever fear going to his pages.
A
> search of many MS groups will document the number of times that we send
people
> to Jim's invaluable pages and I even include one of them in my signature.
I too
> think you deserve an apology in this instance as does Jim Eshelman.
>
> --
> George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP
>
> For Windows Troubleshooting Tips see;
> http://aumha.org/win4/a/tshoot.htm
>
> "LuckyStrike" <LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com> wrote
in
> message news:%23MZQw08%23DHA.2576@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | This morning I saw that a certain Svyatoslav Pidgorny, MVP, MCSE slammed
me
> | for <quote/> "Distributing viruses, huh?" <end/quote> in response to my
post
> | Subject: New CWShredder update available which was dated Wednesday,
February
> | 25, 2004 2:34 AM (MST)
> | news:eD#UZK4#DHA.2512@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl
> |
> | I have not in anyway offered a link that contains a virus, or am in any
way
> | distributing a virus! I demand a retraction and an apology from that
person.
> |
> | Now, you may follow through in a logical and orderly manner through
these
> | links to see that the link I offered is Bona Fide and genuine, if you
care
> | to do so.
> |
> | Windows Support Center
> | James A. Eshelman, Proprietor & Webmaster
> | http://www.aumha.org/
> | http://www.aumha.org/support.htm
> | http://www.aumha.org/a/noads.htm
> | No www. is required for the link I initially offered for CWShredder at
the
> | bottom of this page.
> | http://aumha.org/a/parasite.php
> | http://www.aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> |
> | This website is about getting help solving computer problems and getting
> | support for Microsoft products using the Microsoft Communities, or the
NNTP
> | equivalent, newsgroups.
> | http://www.dts-l.org/
> | http://www.dts-l.org/gallery.htm
> | Jim Eshelmans original link :
> | http://free.freespeech.org/Khephra/
> | now redirects to:
> | http://www.aumha.org/
> |
> | So we have come full circle. I hope this will clarify matters as it
appears
> | that some of you may have been put off by the name of the URL that was
> | offered. If you're not satisfied with this, I'm sorry, but it's the best
I
> | could do to allay your concerns. If this has done nothing to assuage
your
> | worries, *don't* install the update then. Suit yourselves and you be the
> | judge.
> |
> | Again, I expect a full and complete apology from this person Svyatoslav
> | Pidgorny, who has wrongfully accused me of "distributing viruses".
> | --
> | LuckyStrike
> | LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
> | --------------------------------------------------------------------
> |
> |
>



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by Jim

Jim
Wed Feb 25 14:16:13 CST 2004

George (Bindar Dundat) wrote:
> I'm with Larry on this one. I don't know where Slav came up with the
> "distributing parasites" comment. Your links go to Jim Eshelman's
> site and Jim is a very well known, highly respected, and long time
> member of the MVP community. There is absolutely no reason to ever
> fear going to his pages. A search of many MS groups will document
> the number of times that we send people to Jim's invaluable pages and
> I even include one of them in my signature. I too think you deserve
> an apology in this instance as does Jim Eshelman.

<blush>Gosh!</blush>

Thanks, George.

--
Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by George

George
Wed Feb 25 14:29:28 CST 2004

No problem. Anything to avoid changing my sig. <G>

--
George (Bindar Dundat ©) MS-MVP

For Windows Troubleshooting Tips see;
http://aumha.org/win4/a/tshoot.htm

"Jim Eshelman" <newsgroups@NSaumha.org> wrote in message
news:Oy144w9%23DHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| George (Bindar Dundat) wrote:
| > I'm with Larry on this one. I don't know where Slav came up with the
| > "distributing parasites" comment. Your links go to Jim Eshelman's
| > site and Jim is a very well known, highly respected, and long time
| > member of the MVP community. There is absolutely no reason to ever
| > fear going to his pages. A search of many MS groups will document
| > the number of times that we send people to Jim's invaluable pages and
| > I even include one of them in my signature. I too think you deserve
| > an apology in this instance as does Jim Eshelman.
|
| <blush>Gosh!</blush>
|
| Thanks, George.
|
| --
| Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
| AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
| Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
| Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
| Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
|
|


Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by LuckyStrike

LuckyStrike
Wed Feb 25 14:29:45 CST 2004

"Jim Eshelman" <newsgroups@NSaumha.org> wrote in message
news:Oy144w9%23DHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> George (Bindar Dundat) wrote:
> > I'm with Larry on this one. I don't know where Slav came up with the
> > "distributing parasites" comment. Your links go to Jim Eshelman's
> > site and Jim is a very well known, highly respected, and long time
> > member of the MVP community. There is absolutely no reason to ever
> > fear going to his pages. A search of many MS groups will document
> > the number of times that we send people to Jim's invaluable pages and
> > I even include one of them in my signature. I too think you deserve
> > an apology in this instance as does Jim Eshelman.
>
> <blush>Gosh!</blush>
>
> Thanks, George.
>
> --
> Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
> AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
> Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
> Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
>

Jim,

I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help others and for
the great links that abound in your wonderful site. I hope the ruckus and
uproar I have potentially created will not have any untoward and negative
impact. If it has, I extend my sincerest apologies, and hope that in some
way I can be forgiven or at least to somehow (how?) make up for it.
--
LuckyStrike
LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by PA

PA
Wed Feb 25 14:32:06 CST 2004

I can get it for you wholesale! (;+>}

Larry Samuels wrote:
> Thanks George!
> That has definitely been added to bookmarks.
>
>> You might also want to bookmark this page Larry
>> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html


Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by Jim

Jim
Wed Feb 25 14:38:02 CST 2004

Thanks to George, I just wandered into this thread, and I'm not sure where
all the brouhaha started - but thought I'd say a thing or three in response
to what I've been reading.

A whole lotta folks (thank goodness) are joining the "parasite fight" these
days and, while many are doing a spectacular job, nobody has moved more
mountains than Merijn, who has my respect and gratitude. For his programs
and instructions, I link straight to the source -- except, of course, when
the source is unavailable, as with the recent and prolonged DDoS attacks he
has suffered.

When this hit - and Merijn's site became, for a time unavailable - Silj was
kind enough to give me alternate download links for most of what's
available. I've added these liberally in various places on my site (always -
in case it matters to anyone - marking them as alternate links to
distinguish them from the primary ones).

My own evolving best efforts to aid the war can be found here:
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/noads.htm
http://forum.mvps.org/index.php?c=12

Links (including alternate links) to some of the more popular and useful
antiparasite tools, including CWShredder, can also be found on the "My
Favorite Freeware" page: http://aumha.org/freeware.htm

If anyone has a need for four different ways to get to each of the previous
pages, you may add www. to the front of any of them, and substitute
winsupportcenter.com for aumha.org. Pick your favorite flavor <g>.

Lucky, you flatter me enormously, and I'm happy you continue to find the
site valuable and helpful. This summer will mark 5 years it's been going
and, over time, one can accumulate a bunch of stuff. I've tried to make the
site into the tool that *I* like to use. A bunch of other folks have said
that this approach works just fine for them and they can find their way
around.

Don't worry about my bandwidth consumption. I haven't yet begun to hit the
available bandwidth limits despite lots and lots of hits. Send all the flood
of genuinely interested people that you want, either to the site itself -
http://aumha.org/ - or to the forums at http://forum.aumha.org/ - or to
both.

And if this makes me a target for those attacks, too... well, I don't want
to make life harder on the kind folks at pair.com, though they have the
resources to fight almost any attack that can be levied. And I don't want to
be mistaken for a supporter of a certain politician by shouting, "Bring'em
on!" But... well, I really do have a ton of bandwidth and a webhost support
team that knows how to fight (and has something like 6x bandwidth overage),
so let's just say I have no anxiety about being turned into a target as a
result of your circulating links to my site. We're handling the first 3
million hits a month just fine, and we could double that without a bandwidth
problem.

On the other hand, it sucks like a Hoover that one of my fellow MVPs levied
the attack that he did. Too bad I won't be seeing him in April so we can
throw shots of vodka at each other from 10 paces (and then buy each other a
few refills). I'm willing to accept this as his having a bad day and
tripping over the Send button due to both feet being in his mouth (I've
Bindar Dundat <s>). But I'm sorry you got bullied by it, Lucky.

--
Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm


LuckyStrike wrote:
> Doc and Larry,
>
> You're both very welcome. I should have made it a bit more clear
> initially, as the URL is one that does not have a very appealing nor
> inviting name.
>
> Due to the DDoS Attack that has been ongoing for the last week or
> better, most, as you well know, have been unable to access *any*
> program downloads, updates, help sites such as Spyware Info,
> TomCoyote,Merijn and the like. Customarily, Merjin will have 3, if
> not more, updates to CWShredder in a weeks time. I just felt that
> somewhere one would find a site not yet hit by the attack. I sure
> hope that Jim's site will help others with this, and he offers a
> great Web Site in general. I'm also hoping that all of this
> *attention* that has been made by having to repost and clarify all of
> this will not bring any undue weight to bear upon his site, or the
> availability of updates through the same link therein.
>
> Thanks for your support, and my best regards.



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by PA

PA
Wed Feb 25 14:38:22 CST 2004

LuckyStrike wrote:
>>> I'm with Larry on this one. I don't know where Slav came up with the
>>> "distributing parasites" comment. Your links go to Jim Eshelman's
>>> site and Jim is a very well known, highly respected, and long time
>>> member of the MVP community. There is absolutely no reason to ever
>>> fear going to his pages. A search of many MS groups will document
>>> the number of times that we send people to Jim's invaluable pages and
>>> I even include one of them in my signature. I too think you deserve
>>> an apology in this instance as does Jim Eshelman.
>>
>> <blush>Gosh!</blush>
>>
>> Thanks, George.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
>> AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
>> Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
>> Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
>> Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
>>
>
> Jim,
>
> I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help others and
> for the great links that abound in your wonderful site. I hope the ruckus
> and uproar I have potentially created will not have any untoward and
> negative impact. If it has, I extend my sincerest apologies, and hope
> that in some way I can be forgiven or at least to somehow (how?) make up
> for it.

You may rise, LS.

Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by Jim

Jim
Wed Feb 25 14:41:00 CST 2004

LuckyStrike wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help others
> and for the great links that abound in your wonderful site. I hope
> the ruckus and uproar I have potentially created will not have any
> untoward and negative impact. If it has, I extend my sincerest
> apologies, and hope that in some way I can be forgiven or at least to
> somehow (how?) make up for it.

You're welcome.

And: I always approve of getting in trouble for doing *something* rather
than getting in trouble for doing *nothing.* (I believe those are the only
two available choices, and I try to pick the first one as often as
possible.) So keep doing wonderful something and enjoy the weather change of
the occasional storm to keep life from getting boring.

--
Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by LuckyStrike

LuckyStrike
Wed Feb 25 15:07:46 CST 2004


"Jim Eshelman" <newsgroups@NSaumha.org> wrote in message
news:ernBF99%23DHA.1700@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Thanks to George, I just wandered into this thread, and I'm not sure where
> all the brouhaha started - but thought I'd say a thing or three in
response
> to what I've been reading.
>
> A whole lotta folks (thank goodness) are joining the "parasite fight"
these
> days and, while many are doing a spectacular job, nobody has moved more
> mountains than Merijn, who has my respect and gratitude. For his programs
> and instructions, I link straight to the source -- except, of course, when
> the source is unavailable, as with the recent and prolonged DDoS attacks
he
> has suffered.
>
> When this hit - and Merijn's site became, for a time unavailable - Silj
was
> kind enough to give me alternate download links for most of what's
> available. I've added these liberally in various places on my site
(always -
> in case it matters to anyone - marking them as alternate links to
> distinguish them from the primary ones).
>
> My own evolving best efforts to aid the war can be found here:
> http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> http://aumha.org/a/noads.htm
> http://forum.mvps.org/index.php?c=12
>
> Links (including alternate links) to some of the more popular and useful
> antiparasite tools, including CWShredder, can also be found on the "My
> Favorite Freeware" page: http://aumha.org/freeware.htm
>
> If anyone has a need for four different ways to get to each of the
previous
> pages, you may add www. to the front of any of them, and substitute
> winsupportcenter.com for aumha.org. Pick your favorite flavor <g>.
>
> Lucky, you flatter me enormously, and I'm happy you continue to find the
> site valuable and helpful. This summer will mark 5 years it's been going
> and, over time, one can accumulate a bunch of stuff. I've tried to make
the
> site into the tool that *I* like to use. A bunch of other folks have said
> that this approach works just fine for them and they can find their way
> around.
>
> Don't worry about my bandwidth consumption. I haven't yet begun to hit the
> available bandwidth limits despite lots and lots of hits. Send all the
flood
> of genuinely interested people that you want, either to the site itself -
> http://aumha.org/ - or to the forums at http://forum.aumha.org/ - or to
> both.
>
> And if this makes me a target for those attacks, too... well, I don't want
> to make life harder on the kind folks at pair.com, though they have the
> resources to fight almost any attack that can be levied. And I don't want
to
> be mistaken for a supporter of a certain politician by shouting, "Bring'em
> on!" But... well, I really do have a ton of bandwidth and a webhost
support
> team that knows how to fight (and has something like 6x bandwidth
overage),
> so let's just say I have no anxiety about being turned into a target as a
> result of your circulating links to my site. We're handling the first 3
> million hits a month just fine, and we could double that without a
bandwidth
> problem.
>
> On the other hand, it sucks like a Hoover that one of my fellow MVPs
levied
> the attack that he did. Too bad I won't be seeing him in April so we can
> throw shots of vodka at each other from 10 paces (and then buy each other
a
> few refills). I'm willing to accept this as his having a bad day and
> tripping over the Send button due to both feet being in his mouth (I've
> Bindar Dundat <s>). But I'm sorry you got bullied by it, Lucky.
>
> --
> Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
> AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
> Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
> Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
>
----------------------------
Jim,

My fault; I started it by posting your link for CWShredder - which I
fortuitously stumbled upon while cruising your site, as I do with a certain
regularity - and then due to not really "spelling out well" a description of
the URL link, started the commotion by being slammed by you know who.
news:ecJj7o3#DHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl

At any rate, the dust is settling; your understanding and support -in more
ways than one- is appreciated, and I'm glad you will be able to withstand
any possible onslaught of Bandwidth that this will consume, as well as being
most able to effectively "duke it out with the bad guys". <S>

Your site works great; *even I* can navigate my way though the huge amount
of info you offer. Therefore, I'm wishing you 5 more (make that 10 if you
can handle it. Hope so!) successful and great years doing what you do so
well!
--
Your devoted fan,
LuckyStrike
LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------










Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by LuckyStrike

LuckyStrike
Wed Feb 25 15:10:43 CST 2004


"Jim Eshelman" <newsgroups@NSaumha.org> wrote in message
news:unpJv%239%23DHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> LuckyStrike wrote:
> > Jim,
> >
> > I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help others
> > and for the great links that abound in your wonderful site. I hope
> > the ruckus and uproar I have potentially created will not have any
> > untoward and negative impact. If it has, I extend my sincerest
> > apologies, and hope that in some way I can be forgiven or at least to
> > somehow (how?) make up for it.
>
> You're welcome.
>
> And: I always approve of getting in trouble for doing *something* rather
> than getting in trouble for doing *nothing.* (I believe those are the only
> two available choices, and I try to pick the first one as often as
> possible.) So keep doing wonderful something and enjoy the weather change
of
> the occasional storm to keep life from getting boring.
>
> --
> Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
> AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
> Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
> Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
>
--------------------------
Jim - I posted my thanks for your understanding just moments ago.

Best and *highest* regards,
LuckyStrike
-------------------------------



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by wa0goz

wa0goz
Wed Feb 25 16:08:19 CST 2004

The link from George still has ver 1.49.1 on it. Has any newer versions
surfaced anywhere?

Henry



PA Bear wrote:
>
> I can get it for you wholesale! (;+>}
>
> Larry Samuels wrote:
> > Thanks George!
> > That has definitely been added to bookmarks.
> >
> >> You might also want to bookmark this page Larry
> >> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html

Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by LuckyStrike

LuckyStrike
Wed Feb 25 16:47:24 CST 2004

Perhaps you might care to examine the start of this thread or any number of
others that pertain to it. There have been numerous references to a version
1.5 available from:
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.php

Do not let the name of the URL "throw you"; This happens to be a valid link
from a most valid site, namely:
Windows Support Center - Webmaster is Jim Eshelman
http://www.aumha.org/
--

LuckyStrike
LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------
<wa0goz@arrl.net> wrote in message news:403D1CD3.2C1@arrl.net...
> The link from George still has ver 1.49.1 on it. Has any newer versions
> surfaced anywhere?
>
> Henry
>
>
>
> PA Bear wrote:
> >
> > I can get it for you wholesale! (;+>}
> >
> > Larry Samuels wrote:
> > > Thanks George!
> > > That has definitely been added to bookmarks.
> > >
> > >> You might also want to bookmark this page Larry
> > >> http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by Jim

Jim
Wed Feb 25 18:42:43 CST 2004

wa0goz@arrl.net wrote:
> The link from George still has ver 1.49.1 on it. Has any newer
> versions surfaced anywhere?

Yes. I've got 1.50.

Siljaline keeps us all up to date with postings in many locations,
including:
http://forum.mvps.org/viewforum.php?f=28

On http://aumha.org/freeware.htm I keep download links for CWShredder,
including an alternate one during the current DDoS crisis. Here is one that
works and gives the latest:
http://www.zerosrealm.com/downloads/CWShredder.zip

--
Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by PCR

PCR
Thu Feb 26 00:10:23 CST 2004

After all this, even I might click one of your URLs again some day.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"LuckyStrike" <LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com>
wrote in message news:emwUXP%23%23DHA.2800@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
|
| "Jim Eshelman" <newsgroups@NSaumha.org> wrote in message
| news:unpJv%239%23DHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| > LuckyStrike wrote:
| > > Jim,
| > >
| > > I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help
others
| > > and for the great links that abound in your wonderful site. I hope
| > > the ruckus and uproar I have potentially created will not have any
| > > untoward and negative impact. If it has, I extend my sincerest
| > > apologies, and hope that in some way I can be forgiven or at least
to
| > > somehow (how?) make up for it.
| >
| > You're welcome.
| >
| > And: I always approve of getting in trouble for doing *something*
rather
| > than getting in trouble for doing *nothing.* (I believe those are
the only
| > two available choices, and I try to pick the first one as often as
| > possible.) So keep doing wonderful something and enjoy the weather
change
| of
| > the occasional storm to keep life from getting boring.
| >
| > --
| > Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
| > AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
| > Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
| > Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
| > Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
| >
| --------------------------
| Jim - I posted my thanks for your understanding just moments ago.
|
| Best and *highest* regards,
| LuckyStrike
| -------------------------------
|
|



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by Susan

Susan
Thu Feb 26 01:44:10 CST 2004

May I just point out that to the average person coming into this group..
the fact that that post was...

a. majorly cross posted
b. and with the sig line of Lucky Strike
LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com

Of which both together to the reasonably paranoid person ... I wouldn't
click on those links either.

It looked like a distribution of a virus or bogus code even if it was
not. Unfortunately we have to be careful these days.

LuckyStrike wrote:

> "Jim Eshelman" <newsgroups@NSaumha.org> wrote in message
> news:unpJv%239%23DHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>
>>LuckyStrike wrote:
>>
>>>Jim,
>>>
>>>I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help others
>>>and for the great links that abound in your wonderful site. I hope
>>>the ruckus and uproar I have potentially created will not have any
>>>untoward and negative impact. If it has, I extend my sincerest
>>>apologies, and hope that in some way I can be forgiven or at least to
>>>somehow (how?) make up for it.
>>
>>You're welcome.
>>
>>And: I always approve of getting in trouble for doing *something* rather
>>than getting in trouble for doing *nothing.* (I believe those are the only
>>two available choices, and I try to pick the first one as often as
>>possible.) So keep doing wonderful something and enjoy the weather change
>
> of
>
>>the occasional storm to keep life from getting boring.
>>
>>--
>>Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
>>AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
>>Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
>>Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
>>Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
>>
>
> --------------------------
> Jim - I posted my thanks for your understanding just moments ago.
>
> Best and *highest* regards,
> LuckyStrike
> -------------------------------
>
>

--
http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm


Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by PCR

PCR
Thu Feb 26 02:15:18 CST 2004

Perhaps some day in the distant future you may click one of his URLs,
won't you?

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
wrote in message news:uUQGUwD$DHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| May I just point out that to the average person coming into this
group..
| the fact that that post was...
|
| a. majorly cross posted
| b. and with the sig line of Lucky Strike
| LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
|
| Of which both together to the reasonably paranoid person ... I
wouldn't
| click on those links either.
|
| It looked like a distribution of a virus or bogus code even if it was
| not. Unfortunately we have to be careful these days.
|
| LuckyStrike wrote:
|
| > "Jim Eshelman" <newsgroups@NSaumha.org> wrote in message
| > news:unpJv%239%23DHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| >
| >>LuckyStrike wrote:
| >>
| >>>Jim,
| >>>
| >>>I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help
others
| >>>and for the great links that abound in your wonderful site. I hope
| >>>the ruckus and uproar I have potentially created will not have any
| >>>untoward and negative impact. If it has, I extend my sincerest
| >>>apologies, and hope that in some way I can be forgiven or at least
to
| >>>somehow (how?) make up for it.
| >>
| >>You're welcome.
| >>
| >>And: I always approve of getting in trouble for doing *something*
rather
| >>than getting in trouble for doing *nothing.* (I believe those are
the only
| >>two available choices, and I try to pick the first one as often as
| >>possible.) So keep doing wonderful something and enjoy the weather
change
| >
| > of
| >
| >>the occasional storm to keep life from getting boring.
| >>
| >>--
| >>Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
| >>AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
| >>Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
| >>Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
| >>Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
| >>
| >
| > --------------------------
| > Jim - I posted my thanks for your understanding just moments ago.
| >
| > Best and *highest* regards,
| > LuckyStrike
| > -------------------------------
| >
| >
|
| --
| http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm
|



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by Jan

Jan
Thu Feb 26 02:50:17 CST 2004

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:OCsIfCE$DHA.688@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Perhaps some day in the distant future you may click one of his URLs,
> won't you?

Well..we would not want to learn...would we?? Especially, anything from
this newsgroup...oh ahmm...forgot...these MANY newsgroups?? What can
possibly be trusted? Sheesh...what IS the matter with you? ;-))

Jan :)
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
> wrote in message news:uUQGUwD$DHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | May I just point out that to the average person coming into this
> group..
> | the fact that that post was...
> |
> | a. majorly cross posted
> | b. and with the sig line of Lucky Strike
> | LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
> |
> | Of which both together to the reasonably paranoid person ... I
> wouldn't
> | click on those links either.
> |
> | It looked like a distribution of a virus or bogus code even if it was
> | not. Unfortunately we have to be careful these days.
> |
> | LuckyStrike wrote:
> |
> | > "Jim Eshelman" <newsgroups@NSaumha.org> wrote in message
> | > news:unpJv%239%23DHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> | >
> | >>LuckyStrike wrote:
> | >>
> | >>>Jim,
> | >>>
> | >>>I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help
> others
> | >>>and for the great links that abound in your wonderful site. I hope
> | >>>the ruckus and uproar I have potentially created will not have any
> | >>>untoward and negative impact. If it has, I extend my sincerest
> | >>>apologies, and hope that in some way I can be forgiven or at least
> to
> | >>>somehow (how?) make up for it.
> | >>
> | >>You're welcome.
> | >>
> | >>And: I always approve of getting in trouble for doing *something*
> rather
> | >>than getting in trouble for doing *nothing.* (I believe those are
> the only
> | >>two available choices, and I try to pick the first one as often as
> | >>possible.) So keep doing wonderful something and enjoy the weather
> change
> | >
> | > of
> | >
> | >>the occasional storm to keep life from getting boring.
> | >>
> | >>--
> | >>Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
> | >>AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
> | >>Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> | >>Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
> | >>Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
> | >>
> | >
> | > --------------------------
> | > Jim - I posted my thanks for your understanding just moments ago.
> | >
> | > Best and *highest* regards,
> | > LuckyStrike
> | > -------------------------------
> | >
> | >
> |
> | --
> | http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm
> |
>
>


Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by LuckyStrike

LuckyStrike
Thu Feb 26 02:43:56 CST 2004

Although it may "appear" suspicious to you, and evidently to others, I would
still stand firm in my position which is as follows:

1) Multiple "major" cross-posting for such updates is not unprecedented, in
fact I've seen it often.
Reasonably paranoid means nothing and is entirely "subjective".

2) I take exception to your reference to my Sig. First it's prejudicial;
second, would it make a difference if it were "Joan", "Jim", "James", or
"Rebecca of Sunnybrook farm"? You'd be just as foolish and prejudicial to
click on one of those because they appealed to ones "White Bread Goody
Two-Shoes" sensibilities.In fact, in my mind that would be a more convincing
way to perpetrate such a scam. Have you not ever heard of reverse
psychology?

I might also add -as I have already in part - who the heck *would* post a
virus or whatever, with a name "Virus Master", "Hell-Raiser" or whatever,
and then have a URL that said "Parasites - get them here". That wouldn't be
a very effective way to ensnare someone if the intention was to spread or
*broadcast* a virus in my view.

I have already stated at first light of day -for me- that perhaps I should
have made clearer the URL and other factors. So, what did I do? Just that,
with multiple references, step by step, a multiple number of times as well.
Furthermore, my position was supported (finally) by a number of persons
ranging from those who can read and recognize, to the very Webmaster of the
site in question.

Addressing your "average person" position: What kind of MVP-MCSE, posts back
what I received as a reply? Is that a remark from the <quote/> *average
person* <end/>? Sub-Standard MVP in my view. The person obviously spent only
a microsecond before jumping to a snap decision - which need I remind you -
was inaccurate and wrong. This person, and obviously yourself as well, did
not recognize that a good portion of the URL was from Jim Eshelmans highly
esteemed site, which is *commonly* referred to in numerous newsgroups. And
as yet, have I received a retraction or an apology? NO! I haven't.

Lastly, and perhaps most importantly: Do you realize that this is a very
serious charge to make against a person, when it is a *CRIME* and UNLAWFUL
to send, spread, and create viruses that are intended to wreak havoc on /
through the Internet? So I feel I have no need to apologize for my well
meaning, genuine, accurate, helpful, and NON-VIRAL post and link. I feel I
am owed an apology by the person who was wrong. It's that simple.

And I have *no need* to apologize for my Sig either. It's irrelevant, and
although it has no bearing whatsoever, I have seen far "worse" sigs, which I
will not even bother to repeat as they are beneath me. The only apology I
would offer is to Jim Eshelman himself, and for obvious reasons. This I had
done already, in advance, and was reassured that it was unnecessary.
--

LuckyStrike
LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------




"Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
wrote in message news:uUQGUwD$DHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> May I just point out that to the average person coming into this group..
> the fact that that post was...
>
> a. majorly cross posted
> b. and with the sig line of Lucky Strike
> LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
>
> Of which both together to the reasonably paranoid person ... I wouldn't
> click on those links either.
>
> It looked like a distribution of a virus or bogus code even if it was
> not. Unfortunately we have to be careful these days.
>
> LuckyStrike wrote:
>
> > "Jim Eshelman" <newsgroups@NSaumha.org> wrote in message
> > news:unpJv%239%23DHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >
> >>LuckyStrike wrote:
> >>
> >>>Jim,
> >>>
> >>>I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help others
> >>>and for the great links that abound in your wonderful site. I hope
> >>>the ruckus and uproar I have potentially created will not have any
> >>>untoward and negative impact. If it has, I extend my sincerest
> >>>apologies, and hope that in some way I can be forgiven or at least to
> >>>somehow (how?) make up for it.
> >>
> >>You're welcome.
> >>
> >>And: I always approve of getting in trouble for doing *something* rather
> >>than getting in trouble for doing *nothing.* (I believe those are the
only
> >>two available choices, and I try to pick the first one as often as
> >>possible.) So keep doing wonderful something and enjoy the weather
change
> >
> > of
> >
> >>the occasional storm to keep life from getting boring.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
> >>AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
> >>Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
> >>Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
> >>Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
> >>
> >
> > --------------------------
> > Jim - I posted my thanks for your understanding just moments ago.
> >
> > Best and *highest* regards,
> > LuckyStrike
> > -------------------------------
> >
> >
>
> --
> http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm
>



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by PCR

PCR
Thu Feb 26 02:55:06 CST 2004

I must exercise my fifth amendment right to utter silence. And another
thing... silence is golden! Oh, oh! I get it! You are objecting to the
crossposting. Well, turn it off; that's all!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Jan Il" <abuse@localhost.com> wrote in message
news:Fgi%b.2756$506.1723@fed1read05...
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:OCsIfCE$DHA.688@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > Perhaps some day in the distant future you may click one of his
URLs,
| > won't you?
|
| Well..we would not want to learn...would we?? Especially, anything
from
| this newsgroup...oh ahmm...forgot...these MANY newsgroups?? What can
| possibly be trusted? Sheesh...what IS the matter with you? ;-))
|
| Jan :)
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
<sbradcpa@pacbell.net>
| > wrote in message news:uUQGUwD$DHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > | May I just point out that to the average person coming into this
| > group..
| > | the fact that that post was...
| > |
| > | a. majorly cross posted
| > | b. and with the sig line of Lucky Strike
| > | LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
| > |
| > | Of which both together to the reasonably paranoid person ... I
| > wouldn't
| > | click on those links either.
| > |
| > | It looked like a distribution of a virus or bogus code even if it
was
| > | not. Unfortunately we have to be careful these days.
| > |
| > | LuckyStrike wrote:
| > |
| > | > "Jim Eshelman" <newsgroups@NSaumha.org> wrote in message
| > | > news:unpJv%239%23DHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| > | >
| > | >>LuckyStrike wrote:
| > | >>
| > | >>>Jim,
| > | >>>
| > | >>>I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help
| > others
| > | >>>and for the great links that abound in your wonderful site. I
hope
| > | >>>the ruckus and uproar I have potentially created will not have
any
| > | >>>untoward and negative impact. If it has, I extend my sincerest
| > | >>>apologies, and hope that in some way I can be forgiven or at
least
| > to
| > | >>>somehow (how?) make up for it.
| > | >>
| > | >>You're welcome.
| > | >>
| > | >>And: I always approve of getting in trouble for doing
*something*
| > rather
| > | >>than getting in trouble for doing *nothing.* (I believe those
are
| > the only
| > | >>two available choices, and I try to pick the first one as often
as
| > | >>possible.) So keep doing wonderful something and enjoy the
weather
| > change
| > | >
| > | > of
| > | >
| > | >>the occasional storm to keep life from getting boring.
| > | >>
| > | >>--
| > | >>Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows http://aumha.org/
| > | >>AumHa Forums: http://forum.aumha.org/
| > | >>Fighting Parasites: http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
| > | >>Computer Health: http://aumha.org/a/health.htm
| > | >>Troubleshooting: http://aumha.org/a/tshoot.htm
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | > --------------------------
| > | > Jim - I posted my thanks for your understanding just moments
ago.
| > | >
| > | > Best and *highest* regards,
| > | > LuckyStrike
| > | > -------------------------------
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > | --
| > | http://www.sbslinks.com/really.htm
| > |
| >
| >
|



Re: To clarify the link for CWShredder Update by Jim

Jim
Thu Feb 26 09:37:20 CST 2004

Lucky - I didn't want to jump back in with quick remarks given how much
cross-posting this has - but felt I should on this. (I'll make it quick.)

(1) I hear that you were personally insulted by Susan's remarks, and I sure
can't argue with your feelings on that. If it feels like a slap, it must
have been a slap.
(2) I trust you know by now that I sincerely appreciate all of your kind
comments directed to me and to my site, and am happy the links are being
rolled out into service - to help folks.
(3) I needed to step back in to say that Susan Bradley is not a
"sub-standard MVP" and, in fact, is a pretty cool person. Feathers are
getting ruffled here between two people that ultimately have very similar
motivations about helping folks.

FWIW.

LuckyStrike wrote:
> Although it may "appear" suspicious to you, and evidently to others,
> I would still stand firm in my position which is as follows:
>
> 1) Multiple "major" cross-posting for such updates is not
> unprecedented, in fact I've seen it often.
> Reasonably paranoid means nothing and is entirely "subjective".
>
> 2) I take exception to your reference to my Sig. First it's
> prejudicial; second, would it make a difference if it were "Joan",
> "Jim", "James", or "Rebecca of Sunnybrook farm"? You'd be just as
> foolish and prejudicial to click on one of those because they
> appealed to ones "White Bread Goody Two-Shoes" sensibilities.In fact,
> in my mind that would be a more convincing way to perpetrate such a
> scam. Have you not ever heard of reverse psychology?
>
> I might also add -as I have already in part - who the heck *would*
> post a virus or whatever, with a name "Virus Master", "Hell-Raiser"
> or whatever, and then have a URL that said "Parasites - get them
> here". That wouldn't be a very effective way to ensnare someone if
> the intention was to spread or *broadcast* a virus in my view.
>
> I have already stated at first light of day -for me- that perhaps I
> should have made clearer the URL and other factors. So, what did I
> do? Just that, with multiple references, step by step, a multiple
> number of times as well. Furthermore, my position was supported
> (finally) by a number of persons ranging from those who can read and
> recognize, to the very Webmaster of the site in question.
>
> Addressing your "average person" position: What kind of MVP-MCSE,
> posts back what I received as a reply? Is that a remark from the
> <quote/> *average person* <end/>? Sub-Standard MVP in my view. The
> person obviously spent only a microsecond before jumping to a snap
> decision - which need I remind you - was inaccurate and wrong. This
> person, and obviously yourself as well, did not recognize that a good
> portion of the URL was from Jim Eshelmans highly esteemed site, which
> is *commonly* referred to in numerous newsgroups. And as yet, have I
> received a retraction or an apology? NO! I haven't.
>
> Lastly, and perhaps most importantly: Do you realize that this is a
> very serious charge to make against a person, when it is a *CRIME*
> and UNLAWFUL to send, spread, and create viruses that are intended to
> wreak havoc on / through the Internet? So I feel I have no need to
> apologize for my well meaning, genuine, accurate, helpful, and
> NON-VIRAL post and link. I feel I am owed an apology by the person
> who was wrong. It's that simple.
>
> And I have *no need* to apologize for my Sig either. It's irrelevant,
> and although it has no bearing whatsoever, I have seen far "worse"
> sigs, which I will not even bother to repeat as they are beneath me.
> The only apology I would offer is to Jim Eshelman himself, and for
> obvious reasons. This I had done already, in advance, and was
> reassured that it was unnecessary.
>
> "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
> <sbradcpa@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:uUQGUwD$DHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> May I just point out that to the average person coming into this
>> group.. the fact that that post was...
>>
>> a. majorly cross posted
>> b. and with the sig line of Lucky Strike
>> LS@smokedamagedfurniture.youcandriveitawaytoday.com
>>
>> Of which both together to the reasonably paranoid person ... I
>> wouldn't click on those links either.
>>
>> It looked like a distribution of a virus or bogus code even if it was
>> not. Unfortunately we have to be careful these days.
>>
>> LuckyStrike wrote:
>>
>>> "Jim Eshelman" <newsgroups@NSaumha.org> wrote in message
>>> news:unpJv%239%23DHA.2432@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>> LuckyStrike wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just want to thank you for your persistent devotion to help
>>>>> others and for the great links that abound in your wonderful
>>>>> site. I hope the ruckus and uproar I have potentially created
>>>>> will not have any untow