Recently fixed an acquaintance's home PC. She had XP SP1 HE, and AOL 9.0
installed. Multiple users, and her grandkids renamed the administrators
logon username. She had no AV, and the firewall was McAfee's freeware
version. Panda's online AV scanner found over 250 infected files, and a
memory running trojan. AOL's popup blocker was failing to block many
popups. McAfee's firewall popup blocker was ineffective in the AOL
environment. The only WWW browser environment that seemed to be popup
blocker effective was in IE standalone, not in AOL itself.

Wiped HDs only partition, XP partition, and started anew with two NTFS
partitions. One for the OS, and one for user data. Installed XP, XP SP2
CD, Panda Titanium AV, and AOL 9.0, in that order. The SP2 firewall was
implemented AV defintions were updated, and MS updates were installed.

Was disappointed in the Adminstrator's user control in the XP HE
environment. Recommneded XP Pro. The source of the viruses and trojans
were obviously from the internet. In light of AOL's popblocker being poor,
full of holes and basically ineffective, I sincerely doubt the parental
surfing control of users in AOL being viable. Is there an aftermarket
product that can do the same in the AOL environment and is effective?

Re: XPHE-AOL 9.0 by Ian

Ian
Tue Apr 26 07:58:28 CDT 2005

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:58:45 -0500, "Lil' Dave"
<spamyourself@virus.net> wrote:

>Recently fixed an acquaintance's home PC. She had XP SP1 HE, and AOL 9.0
>installed. Multiple users, and her grandkids renamed the administrators
>logon username. She had no AV, and the firewall was McAfee's freeware
>version.

They dont have a freeware version. It is free to AOL members on KW:
Firewall.

> Panda's online AV scanner found over 250 infected files, and a
>memory running trojan. AOL's popup blocker was failing to block many
>popups. McAfee's firewall popup blocker was ineffective in the AOL
>environment.

McAfee Personal FIrewall plus doesnt have a popup blocker.

>The only WWW browser environment that seemed to be popup
>blocker effective was in IE standalone, not in AOL itself.

You shouldn't have problems blocking popups with AOL's version if the
machine is clean of spyware.

>Wiped HDs only partition, XP partition, and started anew with two NTFS
>partitions. One for the OS, and one for user data. Installed XP, XP SP2
>CD, Panda Titanium AV, and AOL 9.0, in that order. The SP2 firewall was
>implemented AV defintions were updated, and MS updates were installed.
>
>Was disappointed in the Adminstrator's user control in the XP HE
>environment. Recommneded XP Pro.

Overkill. The home user doesnt need it.

> The source of the viruses and trojans
>were obviously from the internet. In light of AOL's popblocker being poor,
>full of holes and basically ineffective, I sincerely doubt the parental
>surfing control of users in AOL being viable. Is there an aftermarket
>product that can do the same in the AOL environment and is effective?

I would take these steps to protect this family from online threats.
Speaking from my days as an AOL employee I would try to advise members
to move away from the AOL client altogether. There is an AOL dialler
feature available to the member since aol 9. Use this to connect to
the internet and use Firefox as the internet browser. AOL's content
with the exeption of the music is shit anyways and the AOL client uses
so much ram the freed up resources on the pc is very much welcome.

Install a good personal firewall. There is nothing wrong with zone
alarm/sygate/kerio all have a free version. If you want to get the pay
for versions then it is money well spent. Install Microsoft
Antispyware. This will protect the user from spyware/adware shitware
which in my view is the cause of the popups in the first place.

Enable Auto update on Windows XP and promote safe surfin practices
although with Mozilla products being used this is half the job done.
Set program access and defaults to Mozilla. Hide IE and AOL 9
altogether.

Footnote: AOL's client software is bloated and unstable and should
only be used..... well I cannot think of a situation when it should be
used except for accessing sessions@aol and well there is always yahoo
launch. For news and all the crap available on the main screen use
news.google.com. AOL will never be streamlined and stable and
technical support which they offer for free are told to get the member
off the phone as soon as possible - problem solved or not.

I hope this helps :)


Regards,
Ian Kenefick
http://antivirus.ik-cs.com

Re: XPHE-AOL 9.0 by Mark

Mark
Tue Apr 26 19:16:18 CDT 2005

"Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
news:%23HxSPdlSFHA.252@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Recently fixed an acquaintance's home PC. She had XP SP1 HE,

Why not SP2? It has a popup blocker...

> and AOL 9.0 installed.

Oh dear God, an AOL user AND their browser :(

> Multiple users, and her grandkids renamed the administrators
> logon username.

> She had no AV,

What did she expect then?

> and the firewall was McAfee's freeware
> version. Panda's online AV scanner found over 250 infected files, and a
> memory running trojan.

With no active virus scanner and AOHell, what did she think would happen?

> AOL's popup blocker was failing to block many
> popups. McAfee's firewall popup blocker was ineffective in the AOL
> environment.

Ok... this is one of the hundred thousand reasons NOT to use AOL...

> The only WWW browser environment that seemed to be popup
> blocker effective was in IE standalone, not in AOL itself.

IE Registers its windows differently to prevent popups.

> Wiped HDs only partition, XP partition, and started anew with two NTFS
> partitions. One for the OS, and one for user data.

Good idea, 2nd partition always good.

> Installed XP, XP SP2
> CD,

Good, why the hell didnt she have SP2 before?

> Panda Titanium AV, and AOL 9.0, in that order.

You made the mistake at the very end mate :(

> The SP2 firewall was
> implemented AV defintions were updated, and MS updates were installed.


> Was disappointed in the Adminstrator's user control in the XP HE
> environment. Recommneded XP Pro. The source of the viruses and trojans
> were obviously from the internet.

Short of her installing visual studio and writing them herself...

> In light of AOL's popblocker being poor,
> full of holes and basically ineffective,

Thats AOHell for you...

> I sincerely doubt the parental
> surfing control of users in AOL being viable.

Thy are coming around...

> Is there an aftermarket
> product that can do the same in the AOL environment and is effective?

To do what? Just use IE or FireFox, and install one of the many
child-protection programs around.

Sorry, I hate AOHell :)

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- Mark Randall
http://zetech.swehli.com