VIRTUAL PRIVATE NETWORK:

A Virtual Private Network (VPN) is used mainly for business travelers
and home users, connecting more than one system together. (ie: remote
office, remote user and remote partner (extranet) communications.) Your
average home user, connecting one computer to the Internet, has no
reason to be running a VPN.

ALTHOUGH VPN SUPPORT IS NATIVE TO WINDOWS X (EXCLUDING 2000,NT, XP), IT
DOES NOT INSTALL BY DEFAULT.

1. For hackers to install this, they have to click on the Control
Panel, open the Add/Remove Programs applet and then click on the Windows
Setup page.
2. From the Windows Setup page, Select the Communications option and
Select Details. The bottom Communications options is Virtual Private
Networking. Check the box to this option and Select OK.
3. When you return to the Windows Setup page, Select OK again, and all
necessary files are copied.
4. Restart the computer to complete the VPN installation.

After a VPN is installed on your computer, a new adapter is added to the
Network properties for use through your modem. Two adapters are
installed if using a network interface card, but this rarely is the
case. A computer with a standard Dial-Up Adapter, an additional
Dial-Up Adapter to provide VPN support, and also the Microsoft Virtual
Private Networking Adapter that serves as the backbone for all VPN
connections. It?s not always necessary to have a network interface card
for two VPN?s to be installed on a victims computer. A number of other
computers analyzed, were using one modem, but had two VPN?s adapters
installed. Some of the more technically inclined people will have a
better understanding of the terminology.

Below is the VPN adapter file the hackers were using on a compromised
computer system. These files were found in the Black Ice Defender
directory which was hidden from my view. Of course, once you can view
all the Files and Folders, you will find your eyes getting bigger and
bigger. As you can see below, the hackers were utilizing this adapter
on different platforms and software applications.

#This document contains special adapter information that we
#use to adjust how the product interacts with the driver.
#It's main purpose is to handle those adapters that we find
#in the system who lie about being network adapters.
#
#format:
#action: name[=<>] value

# 01 Sep 2000--Added to handle Intel/Shiva VPN client
IGNORE: DriverDesc > Shiva Virtual NIC
IGNORE: Description > Shiva Virtual NIC

# 15 Sep 2000--Added to fix PGP related issues; supersedes other
# PGPMAC or PGPnet entries
# For Win9x
ICE_ADAPTER: LogDriverName > PGPMAC
# For WinNT AND Win2000
ICE_ADAPTER: Description > PGPnet

# 31 Jul 2000--Added to handle VPNet VPNremote client 3.0 for NT
ICE_ADAPTER: Description > Vpn Adapter

# 24 Jul 2000--Added to handle VPNet VPNremote client
ICE_ADAPTER: DriverDesc > VPNremote
ICE_ADAPTER: Description > VPNremote

# Added to handle Raptor Mobile VPN
IGNORE: DriverDesc > RaptorMobile
IGNORE: Description > RaptorMobile

# added to handle Bay Networks Extranet Access Client VPN
IGNORE: DriverDesc > IPsecShm
IGNORE: Description > IPsecShm
IGNORE: DriverDesc > Extranet Access Client Adapter
IGNORE: Description > Extranet Access Client Adapter

ICE_ADAPTER: DriverDesc > Efficient Networks SpeedStream 3010 PPP
ICE_ADAPTER: Description > Efficient Networks SpeedStream 3010 PPP

ICE_ADAPTER: DriverDesc > Efficient Networks SpeedStream 3020 PPP
ICE_ADAPTER: Description > Efficient Networks SpeedStream 3020 PPP

ICE_ADAPTER: DriverDesc > Efficient Networks SpeedStream 3041 PPP
ICE_ADAPTER: Description > Efficient Networks SpeedStream 3041 PPP

ICE_ADAPTER: DriverDesc > Efficient Networks SpeedStream 3060 PPP
ICE_ADAPTER: Description > Efficient Networks SpeedStream 3060 PPP

# 09 Oct 2000--added to handle SpeedStream model 4060 interfaces
ICE_ADAPTER: DriverDesc > Efficient Networks SpeedStream 4060 PPP
ICE_ADAPTER: Description > Efficient Networks SpeedStream 4060 PPP

ICE_ADAPTER: DriverDesc > Deterministic Network
ICE_ADAPTER: Description > Deterministic Network

# added to handle some possible iteration of firewire adapters
IGNORE: DriverDesc > 1394
IGNORE: Description > 1394

IGNORE: DriverDesc > Sony i.LINK(1394) Adapter
IGNORE: Description > Sony i.LINK(1394) Adapter

IGNORE: DriverDesc > Infrared
IGNORE: Description > Infrared

IGNORE: DriverDesc > SMC IrCC
IGNORE: Description > SMC IrCC

IGNORE: DriverDesc > Toshiba FIR Port
IGNORE: Description > Toshiba FIR Port

IGNORE: DriverDesc > Efficient ENI-25p ATM Adapter
IGNORE: Description > Efficient ENI-25p ATM Adapter

# Check Point VPN-1 SecuRemote
ICE_ADAPTER: DriverDesc > FW1 Adapter
ICE_ADAPTER: Description > FW1 Adapter

IGNORE: DriverDesc > Network TeleSystems PPPoE Adapter
IGNORE: Description > Network TeleSystems PPPoE Adapter

IGNORE: DriverDesc > Token-Ring
IGNORE: Description > Token-Ring

IGNORE: DriverDesc > SpeedStream 30
IGNORE: Description > SpeedStream 30

IGNORE: DriverDesc > 3010 SpeedStream
IGNORE: Description > 3010 SpeedStream

IGNORE: DriverDesc > 3020 SpeedStream
IGNORE: Description > 3020 SpeedStream

IGNORE: DriverDesc > 3040 SpeedStream
IGNORE: Description > 3040 SpeedStream

IGNORE: DriverDesc > 3041 SpeedStream
IGNORE: Description > 3041 SpeedStream

IGNORE: DriverDesc > 3060 SpeedStream
IGNORE: Description > 3060 SpeedStream

IGNORE: DriverDesc > SpeedStream 40
IGNORE: Description > SpeedStream 40

IGNORE: DriverDesc > 4020 SpeedStream
IGNORE: Description > 4020 SpeedStream

IGNORE: DriverDesc > 4041 SpeedStream
IGNORE: Description > 4041 SpeedStream

IGNORE: DriverDesc > 4060 SpeedStream
IGNORE: Description > 4060 SpeedStream

IGNORE: DriverDesc > (unknown model) SpeedStream (00) RFC 1577
IGNORE: Description > (unknown model) SpeedStream (00) RFC 1577

IGNORE: DriverDesc > (unknown model) SpeedStream (01) RFC 1577
IGNORE: Description > (unknown model) SpeedStream (01) RFC 1577

IGNORE: DriverDesc > (unknown model) SpeedStream (02) RFC 1577
IGNORE: Description > (unknown model) SpeedStream (02) RFC 1577

IGNORE: DriverDesc > (unknown model) SpeedStream (00) RFC 1483
IGNORE: Description > (unknown model) SpeedStream (00) RFC 1483

IGNORE: DriverDesc > (unknown model) SpeedStream (01) RFC 1483
IGNORE: Description > (unknown model) SpeedStream (01) RFC 1483

IGNORE: DriverDesc > (unknown model) SpeedStream (02) RFC 1483
IGNORE: Description > (unknown model) SpeedStream (02) RFC 1483

IGNORE: DriverDesc > (unknown model) SpeedStream (03) RFC 1483
IGNORE: Description > (unknown model) SpeedStream (03) RFC 1483

IGNORE: DriverDesc > (unknown model) SpeedStream (04) RFC 1483
IGNORE: Description > (unknown model) SpeedStream (04) RFC 1483

IGNORE: DriverDesc > Cisco 605 PCI ADSL Adapter Driver for PPP
IGNORE: Description > Cisco 605 PCI ADSL Adapter Driver for PPP

IGNORE: DriverDesc > ITK Columbus Card 3.0
IGNORE: Description > ITK Columbus Card 3.0

IGNORE: DriverDesc > TELES.ISDN WAN-NDIS-Miniport driver
IGNORE: Description > TELES.ISDN WAN-NDIS-Miniport driver

IGNORE: DriverDesc > TV Data Adapter
IGNORE: Description > TV Data Adapter

Tracker
The Best Kept Secrets of Backdoors, Cracking, Firewalls, Hacking,
Proxies, The Internet, Trojan Horses, Virtual Private Networks, Virus,
Windows and different types of Servers can be found at:
http://geocities.com/secure20032220000/

Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by Alexander

Alexander
Thu Sep 25 00:21:16 CDT 2003

"tracker" wrote...

> Below is the VPN adapter file the hackers were using on a compromised
> computer system. These files were found in the Black Ice Defender
> directory which was hidden from my view. Of course, once you can view
> all the Files and Folders, you will find your eyes getting bigger and
> bigger. As you can see below, the hackers were utilizing this adapter
> on different platforms and software applications.
>
> #This document contains special adapter information that we
> #use to adjust how the product interacts with the driver.
> #It's main purpose is to handle those adapters that we find
> #in the system who lie about being network adapters.
> #
> #format:
> #action: name[=<>] value
>
> # 01 Sep 2000--Added to handle Intel/Shiva VPN client
> IGNORE: DriverDesc > Shiva Virtual NIC
> IGNORE: Description > Shiva Virtual NIC
>

Normally I avoid anything you write, Tracker, because of your legendary
ignorance. But, now you claim to be a Blackice expert.

That's one area where you CLEARLY don't belong. I've used Blackice it at my
office for about 4 years. We use the corporate edition (about 250 agents),
but the guts are almost the same as the retail version. And I got my
training from the guy who helped design Blackice ...so I guess you could
say, I know my shit about Blackice.

The adapter.txt file is used in Blackice to control which adapters use
Blackice's stand-in "ICEAdapter" this is intended for maximum compatibility
with VPN shims. IGNORE rules are used to instruct Blackice to ignore
adapters that aren't really adapters. Some VPNs and sniffers create virtual
adapters. Blackice has is own native drivers that capture frames directly
from the Microsoft TCP/IP stack. It also interpolates with various VPNs to
analyze decrypted traffic. .

Go read the Blackice Advanced Administrator's Guide, available from ISS. Get
an education first. you obviously don't know shit about Blackice.

Alex



Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by Mike

Mike
Thu Sep 25 03:38:43 CDT 2003


"Alexander Delarge" <alex@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:gXucb.335102$2x.100573@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...

Alexander, that post was absoloutly f**king brilliant. Have a huge pat on
the back, a beer and a large cream cake on me.

Tracker, I think you had better rip that chapter out of your 'book' and post
a public apology for posting such blatently incorrect and misleading
information.




Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by tracker

tracker
Thu Sep 25 11:06:43 CDT 2003



Mike wrote:

> "Alexander Delarge" <alex@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:gXucb.335102$2x.100573@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
>
> Alexander, that post was absoloutly f**king brilliant. Have a huge pat on
> the back, a beer and a large cream cake on me.
>
> Tracker, I think you had better rip that chapter out of your 'book' and post
> a public apology for posting such blatently incorrect and misleading
> information.

You're a good example of what I get really pissed off about. Every time I get a
posting like yours it makes me wonder why you didn't post why it's wrong. No
examples to this fact, just it's wrong. You remind me of a parent who tells
it's child it's wrong and walks out of the room. Think back to when it happened
to you. Your thought's at the time, confused, why is it wrong for me and right
for adults. This works both ways. You state I'm wrong and walk off. Have the
guts to show on the Internet why it's wrong, give an example others can test to
prove I'm wrong. It's the same as my saying your full of Sh*t when I don't know
if you've had a bowel movement today.
Grow up, put up or shut up unless you can 100% prove on the Internet that a
statement is wrong. Only fact's in print can substantiate your statement.

The Trackers

The Best Kept Secrets of Backdoors, Cracking, Firewalls, Hacking, Proxies, The
Internet, Trojan Horses, Virtual Private Networks, Virus, Windows and different
types of Servers can be found at:
http://geocities.com/secure20032220000/



Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by Frog

Frog
Thu Sep 25 16:19:29 CDT 2003

tracker <"snailmail(removevalid)222000"@yahoo.com> wrote:

>You're a good example of what I get really pissed off about. Every time I get
>a
>posting like yours it makes me wonder why you didn't post why it's wrong. No
>examples to this fact, just it's wrong. You remind me of a parent who tells
>it's child it's wrong and walks out of the room. Think back to when it
>happened
>to you. Your thought's at the time, confused, why is it wrong for me and right
>for adults. This works both ways. You state I'm wrong and walk off. Have the
>guts to show on the Internet why it's wrong, give an example others can test to
>prove I'm wrong. It's the same as my saying your full of Sh*t when I don't
>know
>if you've had a bowel movement today.
>Grow up, put up or shut up unless you can 100% prove on the Internet that a
>statement is wrong. Only fact's in print can substantiate your statement.

Sorry, the burden of proof should be on YOU to prove that what you write
is correct. You are the one claiming to be some kind of security expert.
Do you have any references or sources for your information?



Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by Mike

Mike
Thu Sep 25 17:34:26 CDT 2003


"tracker" <"snailmail(removevalid)222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3F731293.810BF775@yahoo.com...
>
>
> Mike wrote:
>
> > "Alexander Delarge" <alex@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:gXucb.335102$2x.100573@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> >
> > Alexander, that post was absoloutly f**king brilliant. Have a huge pat
on
> > the back, a beer and a large cream cake on me.
> >
> > Tracker, I think you had better rip that chapter out of your 'book' and
post
> > a public apology for posting such blatently incorrect and misleading
> > information.
>
> You're a good example of what I get really pissed off about. Every time I
get a
> posting like yours it makes me wonder why you didn't post why it's wrong.
No
> examples to this fact, just it's wrong. You remind me of a parent who
tells
> it's child it's wrong and walks out of the room. Think back to when it
happened
> to you. Your thought's at the time, confused, why is it wrong for me and
right
> for adults. This works both ways. You state I'm wrong and walk off.
Have the
> guts to show on the Internet why it's wrong, give an example others can
test to
> prove I'm wrong. It's the same as my saying your full of Sh*t when I
don't know
> if you've had a bowel movement today.
> Grow up, put up or shut up unless you can 100% prove on the Internet that
a
> statement is wrong. Only fact's in print can substantiate your statement.

Actually I was commenting to Alexander's message which resoloutly refuted
your statment and was making no claims of my own. However. if it is proof
you want, then I suggest you go and read the Black Ice Manual which is
available on-line here:
http://documents.iss.net/literature/BlackICE/BI-AAG_30.pdf

Read it, (Note: this is called doing research) and then come back and
apologise to me and everyone else in here.

Have you got the guts to admit you are wrong??????




Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by sgopus

sgopus
Thu Sep 25 19:10:39 CDT 2003

Cause you Fuckin don't listen to advice helpful or
otherwise.

Useless Drival, posted by an unused mind!

Otherwise useless garbage snipped by preference

Do not listen to advice given by the person known as
TRACKER
This person is known to post dangerous and misleading info!
Heading her advice could lead to a life of spontaneous
laughter
Uncontrollable spurts of giggling and tufts of hair being
self removed from your head!




Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by Jason

Jason
Thu Sep 25 20:01:50 CDT 2003

* tracker <snailmail(removevalid)222000@yahoo.com>:
>
>
>
> You're a good example of what I get really pissed off about. Every time I get a
> posting like yours it makes me wonder why you didn't post why it's wrong. No
> examples to this fact, just it's wrong. You remind me of a parent who tells
> it's child it's wrong and walks out of the room. Think back to when it happened
> to you. Your thought's at the time, confused, why is it wrong for me and right
> for adults. This works both ways. You state I'm wrong and walk off. Have the
> guts to show on the Internet why it's wrong, give an example others can test to
> prove I'm wrong. It's the same as my saying your full of Sh*t when I don't know
> if you've had a bowel movement today.
> Grow up, put up or shut up unless you can 100% prove on the Internet that a
> statement is wrong. Only fact's in print can substantiate your statement.
>
> The Trackers
>

Oh dear god debbie how many times do we have to show you the errors of
your ways? It's been done over and over and over again but you continue
to listen and learn from the information given and continue to troll and
spam groups with your 1/2 truths, misinformation and outright lies.

Jason

Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by n1pop

n1pop
Thu Sep 25 22:56:25 CDT 2003

Sorry, folks, but I just GOTTA respond.

All I have to say is: Damn! She is the reason God invented hidden files,
because Lord only knows what she'll make of DEFAULT FSCKING FILES!

tracker <"snailmail(removevalid)222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:3F71DB13.D5925375@yahoo.com:

> WINDOWS X (EXCLUDING 2000,NT, XP)

Um, that's X-Windows.

> A number of other
> computers analyzed, were using one modem, but had two VPN?s adapters
> installed. Some of the more technically inclined people will have a
> better understanding of the terminology.

For some, it's technology. For others, it's black magic used by
witch^h^h^h Hackers, and they should be bur^h^h^h prosce^h^h^h
prosetc^h^h^h burned!

> Of course, once you can view
> all the Files and Folders, you will find your eyes getting bigger and
> bigger.

And bigger, and {POP}

Oops. Is it too late for a C&C?


Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by Webmaster

Webmaster
Fri Sep 26 08:12:23 CDT 2003

This would mean that your book, which is so far as I know, only available as
an e-doc is not factual because it is not in print? Wow. Thanks for
disproving yourself for us.



> From: Jason <Jason@beer.it.does.the.body.good>
> Organization: We are Microsoft. Resistance is futile
> Reply-To: beer@it.does.the.body.good
> Newsgroups:
> alt.computer.security,comp.security.firewalls,alt.comp.virus,microsoft.public.
> security,microsoft.public.security.virus
> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:01:50 -0300
> Subject: Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets
>
> * tracker <snailmail(removevalid)222000@yahoo.com>:
>>
>>
>>
>> You're a good example of what I get really pissed off about. Every time I
>> get a
>> posting like yours it makes me wonder why you didn't post why it's wrong. No
>> examples to this fact, just it's wrong. You remind me of a parent who tells
>> it's child it's wrong and walks out of the room. Think back to when it
>> happened
>> to you. Your thought's at the time, confused, why is it wrong for me and
>> right
>> for adults. This works both ways. You state I'm wrong and walk off. Have
>> the
>> guts to show on the Internet why it's wrong, give an example others can test
>> to
>> prove I'm wrong. It's the same as my saying your full of Sh*t when I don't
>> know
>> if you've had a bowel movement today.
>> Grow up, put up or shut up unless you can 100% prove on the Internet that a
>> statement is wrong. Only fact's in print can substantiate your statement.
>>
>> The Trackers
>>
>
> Oh dear god debbie how many times do we have to show you the errors of
> your ways? It's been done over and over and over again but you continue
> to listen and learn from the information given and continue to troll and
> spam groups with your 1/2 truths, misinformation and outright lies.
>
> Jason


Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by Phil

Phil
Fri Sep 26 08:56:33 CDT 2003

"Webmaster", since you don't understand how to successfully post in reply to
a post, and since your post makes no sense at all, I suggest you use a sig a
little less bogus than 'Webmaster', and, instead, stick to something like
'Tracker'.

Phil Weldon, pweldon

"Webmaster" <roland@blfmanagement.com> wrote in message
news:BB99A567.6825%roland@blfmanagement.com...
> This would mean that your book, which is so far as I know, only available
as
> an e-doc is not factual because it is not in print? Wow. Thanks for
> disproving yourself for us.
>
>
>
> > From: Jason <Jason@beer.it.does.the.body.good>
> > Organization: We are Microsoft. Resistance is futile
> > Reply-To: beer@it.does.the.body.good
> > Newsgroups:
> >
alt.computer.security,comp.security.firewalls,alt.comp.virus,microsoft.publi
c.
> > security,microsoft.public.security.virus
> > Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:01:50 -0300
> > Subject: Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets
> >
> > * tracker <snailmail(removevalid)222000@yahoo.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> You're a good example of what I get really pissed off about. Every
time I
> >> get a
> >> posting like yours it makes me wonder why you didn't post why it's
wrong. No
> >> examples to this fact, just it's wrong. You remind me of a parent who
tells
> >> it's child it's wrong and walks out of the room. Think back to when it
> >> happened
> >> to you. Your thought's at the time, confused, why is it wrong for me
and
> >> right
> >> for adults. This works both ways. You state I'm wrong and walk off.
Have
> >> the
> >> guts to show on the Internet why it's wrong, give an example others can
test
> >> to
> >> prove I'm wrong. It's the same as my saying your full of Sh*t when I
don't
> >> know
> >> if you've had a bowel movement today.
> >> Grow up, put up or shut up unless you can 100% prove on the Internet
that a
> >> statement is wrong. Only fact's in print can substantiate your
statement.
> >>
> >> The Trackers
> >>
> >
> > Oh dear god debbie how many times do we have to show you the errors of
> > your ways? It's been done over and over and over again but you continue
> > to listen and learn from the information given and continue to troll and
> > spam groups with your 1/2 truths, misinformation and outright lies.
> >
> > Jason
>



Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by Chuck

Chuck
Fri Sep 26 11:57:09 CDT 2003

Complaints to: abuse@pacwest.com , abuse@netzero.com (UBE traffic),
abuse@geocities.com, abuse@yahoo-inc.com (hosted website). Include
all headers and be objective.

Chuck
cacrollthespam@yahoo.com
Spam sucks - PLEASE get rid of the spam before emailing me!

Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by tracker

tracker
Fri Sep 26 03:54:40 CDT 2003



Chuck wrote:

> Complaints to: abuse@pacwest.com , abuse@netzero.com (UBE traffic),
> abuse@geocities.com, abuse@yahoo-inc.com (hosted website). Include
> all headers and be objective.
>
> Chuck
> cacrollthespam@yahoo.com
> Spam sucks - PLEASE get rid of the spam before emailing me!

http://spam.abuse.net/overview/whatisspam.shtml

Spam is flooding the Internet with many copies of the same message, in
an attempt to force the message on people who would not otherwise choose
to receive it. Most spam is commercial advertising, often for dubious
products, get-rich-quick schemes, or quasi-legal services. Spam costs
the sender very little to send -- most of the costs are paid for by the
recipient or the carriers rather than by the sender.

There are two main types of spam, and they have different effects on
Internet users. Cancellable Usenet spam is a single message sent to 20
or more Usenet newsgroups. (Through long experience, Usenet users have
found that any message posted to so many newsgroups is often not
relevant to most or all of them.) Usenet spam is aimed at "lurkers",
people who read newsgroups but rarely or never post and give their
address away. Usenet spam robs users of the utility of the newsgroups by
overwhelming them with a barrage of advertising or other irrelevant
posts. Furthermore, Usenet spam subverts the ability of system
administrators and owners to manage the topics they accept on their
systems.

Tracker
The Best Kept Secrets of Backdoors, Cracking, Firewalls, Hacking,
Proxies, The Internet, Trojan Horses, Virtual Private Networks, Virus,
Windows and different types of Servers can be found at:
http://geocities.com/secure20032220000/





Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by FromTheRafters

FromTheRafters
Fri Sep 26 15:17:36 CDT 2003


"W. Blevins" <wblevins@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:h579nvs1bte4p6lqedu1qbco4q0uqipa79@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:54:40 +0400, tracker
> <"snailmail(removevalid)222000"@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Spam is flooding the Internet with many copies of the same message, in
> >an attempt to force the message on people who would not otherwise
>
> <snip>
>
> Please see a doctor.

..and a mirror.



Re: Virtual Private Network Is One Of The Hackers Secrets by Mike

Mike
Sun Sep 28 09:03:42 CDT 2003


"tracker" <"snailmail(removevalid)222000"@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3F731293.810BF775@yahoo.com...
>
>
> Mike wrote:
>
> > "Alexander Delarge" <alex@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:gXucb.335102$2x.100573@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> >
> > Alexander, that post was absoloutly f**king brilliant. Have a huge pat
on
> > the back, a beer and a large cream cake on me.
> >
> > Tracker, I think you had better rip that chapter out of your 'book' and
post
> > a public apology for posting such blatently incorrect and misleading
> > information.
>
> You're a good example of what I get really pissed off about. Every time I
get a
> posting like yours it makes me wonder why you didn't post why it's wrong.
No
> examples to this fact, just it's wrong. You remind me of a parent who
tells
> it's child it's wrong and walks out of the room. Think back to when it
happened
> to you. Your thought's at the time, confused, why is it wrong for me and
right
> for adults. This works both ways. You state I'm wrong and walk off.
Have the
> guts to show on the Internet why it's wrong, give an example others can
test to
> prove I'm wrong. It's the same as my saying your full of Sh*t when I
don't know
> if you've had a bowel movement today.
> Grow up, put up or shut up unless you can 100% prove on the Internet that
a
> statement is wrong. Only fact's in print can substantiate your statement.
>
> The Trackers
>
> The Best Kept Secrets of Backdoors, Cracking, Firewalls, Hacking, Proxies,
The
> Internet, Trojan Horses, Virtual Private Networks, Virus, Windows and
different
> types of Servers can be found at:
> http://geocities.com/secure20032220000/
>
>

I answered your question, and provided the proof you asked for. Would you
now care to keep your side of the bargain and admit to the world that you
are completely wrong and haven't got a clue what you are talking about or
are you just going to ignore the real truth like you always do?