Hi guys, I would like to have some opinion on this.
Recently we are doing some security audit and my boss
said that we should surrender our Domain Administrator ID
and keep the password in a safe.

Other than using Domain Administrator to join PC /servers
to domain, performing administrative tasks, etc, how can
I convince my boss that it is essential for System
Administrator like us to be responsible and keep the
Domain Adminstrator account and password to ourselves?

Hear from you guys soon!

Best Regards.

Re: Surrendering Administrator Account? by Robert

Robert
Sun Jan 11 04:41:32 CST 2004

Philip Wang wrote:
> Hi guys, I would like to have some opinion on this.
> Recently we are doing some security audit and my boss
> said that we should surrender our Domain Administrator ID
> and keep the password in a safe.
>
> Other than using Domain Administrator to join PC /servers
> to domain, performing administrative tasks, etc, how can
> I convince my boss that it is essential for System
> Administrator like us to be responsible and keep the
> Domain Adminstrator account and password to ourselves?

Actually, I'm inclined to agree with your boss. You shouldn't be using the
domain administrator account day to day at all.

You should have "personal" admin accounts which you use for administrative
functions, that way you can track who made which changes. You should also
further have personal "user" accounts that you use for day to day "office
work" at your desks.

So you should be using personal admin accounts, and should only be logged
into them when you need to perform a task that requires administrative
rights.


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Re: Surrendering Administrator Account? by Karl

Karl
Sun Jan 11 07:02:50 CST 2004

You shouldn't have just one domain admin account. What if that account gets
locked out or the password changed or forgotten? There should also be more
than one domain admin person, for instances when the admin is out of the
office, and to be sure that no one admin starts abusing her powers or doing
unethical things without fear of being discovered. [On the other hand, you
don't want too many unnecessary people with domain admin privileges either.]

Also, each domain admin may need to have at least two accounts... one
admin-level account and one lower-privileged account for day to day use.
This is optional and is up to you.

Avoid using accounts shared by multiple people. There's no accountability,
no way to know who did what.

All passwords should be changed regularly. This somewhat contradicts the
idea of sticking the password in the safe.

You're right though that someone will probably need domain admin privileges
from time to time. If the idea is to make sure no one in the company knows
the admin password including the admins, I'm not sure doing so is a very
common security practice.


"Philip Wang" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:00b301c3d812$2e4635b0$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi guys, I would like to have some opinion on this.
> Recently we are doing some security audit and my boss
> said that we should surrender our Domain Administrator ID
> and keep the password in a safe.
>
> Other than using Domain Administrator to join PC /servers
> to domain, performing administrative tasks, etc, how can
> I convince my boss that it is essential for System
> Administrator like us to be responsible and keep the
> Domain Adminstrator account and password to ourselves?
>
> Hear from you guys soon!
>
> Best Regards.



Re: Surrendering Administrator Account? by Joe

Joe
Sun Jan 11 09:23:16 CST 2004

You shouldn't be using the built in admin account. I run some very large domains with hundreds of servers and the
password for the builtin admin accounts are all in envelopes and haven't been touched for over a year.

Your daily use account should have the least amount of permissions for you to do your job and you need to know how to
properly do your job. Most troubleshooting doesn't require admin access, it isn't until you need to change things that
you need that and anything that does those changes should be scripts and automated systems so that the changes are
controlled and logged.

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Joe Richards
www.joeware.net

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"Philip Wang" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:00b301c3d812$2e4635b0$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi guys, I would like to have some opinion on this.
> Recently we are doing some security audit and my boss
> said that we should surrender our Domain Administrator ID
> and keep the password in a safe.
>
> Other than using Domain Administrator to join PC /servers
> to domain, performing administrative tasks, etc, how can
> I convince my boss that it is essential for System
> Administrator like us to be responsible and keep the
> Domain Adminstrator account and password to ourselves?
>
> Hear from you guys soon!
>
> Best Regards.



Re: Surrendering Administrator Account? by Shenan

Shenan
Tue Jan 13 03:17:50 CST 2004

Joe Richards [MVP] wrote:
> I run some very large domains with hundreds of servers
> and the password for the builtin admin accounts are all in
> envelopes and haven't been touched for over a year.

Joe.. you should really changed those password a bit more often. *grin*

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