I have been receiving various "failure to deliver"
messages stating that messages from my hotmail address
have been denied because of content, etc. The problem is
that I have not been sending these messages. In fact, I
have never seen the addresses to which they are supposedly
being sent. I don't want someone sending these in my name
and with my address. What should I do?

Re: Someone sending e-mails with my address by Brian

Brian
Sat Apr 17 11:43:55 CDT 2004

In article <04f601c42499$24277b60$a301280a@phx.gbl>,
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com says...
> I have been receiving various "failure to deliver"
> messages stating that messages from my hotmail address
> have been denied because of content, etc. The problem is
> that I have not been sending these messages. In fact, I
> have never seen the addresses to which they are supposedly
> being sent. I don't want someone sending these in my name
> and with my address. What should I do?
>
Darlene,

There really is not much that you can do. Someone that you know is
infected with a virus that is sending emails with the From field
populated from the address book.

Brian

Someone sending e-mails with my address by Arrid

Arrid
Sat Apr 17 13:50:26 CDT 2004

Well, sometimes I send out e-mails last Saturday nights to
people and the next day, I receive "failure to deliver" e-
mails as well. But that's because I get drunk and type in
the incorrect e-mails to my internet friends.

You have another problem, I think...

Unfortunately, it sounds like you may have a virus of some
kind. Some viruses infect users where it then sends out e-
mails with the virus to everyone in your address book
without your knowledge. Also, the possibility exists that
you may have a keylogger on your computer and someone has
your password.

First things first, scan your computer with an anti-virus
(a good one is Norton Anti-Virus, which also protects you
in real time). Also, run a program like Ad-Aware or Spybot
Search & Destroy.

I would also contact everyone in your address book and let
them know what's going on, so they know it's not you.

Change your password A.S.A.P., as well.

Post back and let us know how everything turns out.

Re: Someone sending e-mails with my address by N

N
Sat Apr 17 19:36:09 CDT 2004

In article <059c01c424ac$d8fcaf70$a101280a@phx.gbl>,
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com says...

> Unfortunately, it sounds like you may have a virus of some
> kind.

Stop your drinking. Or stop offering advice. The alcohol appears to have
impaired your judgement.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Re: Someone sending e-mails with my address by N

N
Sat Apr 17 19:44:20 CDT 2004

In article <04f601c42499$24277b60$a301280a@phx.gbl>,
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com says...

> I have been receiving various "failure to deliver"
> messages stating that messages from my hotmail address
> have been denied because of content, etc. The problem is
> that I have not been sending these messages. In fact, I
> have never seen the addresses to which they are supposedly
> being sent. I don't want someone sending these in my name
> and with my address. What should I do?

The most common cause will be a computer (not yours, necessarily) infected
with a virus, and with your email address stored somewhere, anywhere on the
HDD. You will be told that it is somebody with your email address in their
address book; but that is no longer true. Your email address need only be
one of dozens in the "To:", or "Cc:" list when your best friend sent an
email to you, and to one of her cousins, whom you don't know. Her cousin is
infected, the virus pulls your email address from the email in her cousin's
message store, and forges it as the sender. Of course, most spam these days
also has dozens of other email addresses in "To:", or "Cc:", so it may even
be a fellow spam victim, a stranger you don't know, who has the infected
computer and your email address.

Less common, but not impossible, is spammer forgery. In June, 2003, I was
graced with such an event. I received at least 200 MTA bounces, a taunt, a
challenge, and four MUA (MailWasher) fake bounces.

There is little that you can do about it, except to filter them out.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Re: Someone sending e-mails with my address by Arrid

Arrid
Sun Apr 18 00:41:40 CDT 2004

Yes, there are viruses that then send e-mails with the
virus to other people on the infected user's address book.

If you didn't know that, I'll buy you a beer and explain
it to you.

>-----Original Message-----
>In article <059c01c424ac$d8fcaf70$a101280a@phx.gbl>,
>anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com says...
>
>> Unfortunately, it sounds like you may have a virus of
some
>> kind.
>
>Stop your drinking. Or stop offering advice. The alcohol
appears to have
>impaired your judgement.
>
>--
>Norman

Re: Someone sending e-mails with my address by Arrid

Arrid
Sun Apr 18 00:46:18 CDT 2004

Ah, see? This is the virus I was referring to. Maybe I was
mixed up with who had the virus or whatever, but what I
was basically explaining to that person was correct. Now,
I won't have to explain the virus to you!

The offer for me buying you a beer still stands. After
all, a man always pays for the woman's first drink.

>-----Original Message-----
>The most common cause will be a computer (not yours,
necessarily) infected
>with a virus, and with your email address stored
somewhere, anywhere on the
>HDD. You will be told that it is somebody with your email
address in their
>address book; but that is no longer true. Your email
address need only be
>one of dozens in the "To:", or "Cc:" list when your best
friend sent an
>email to you, and to one of her cousins, whom you don't
know. Her cousin is
>infected, the virus pulls your email address from the
email in her cousin's
>message store, and forges it as the sender. Of course,
most spam these days
>also has dozens of other email addresses in "To:",
or "Cc:", so it may even
>be a fellow spam victim, a stranger you don't know, who
has the infected
>computer and your email address.
>
>Less common, but not impossible, is spammer forgery. In
June, 2003, I was
>graced with such an event. I received at least 200 MTA
bounces, a taunt, a
>challenge, and four MUA (MailWasher) fake bounces.
>
>There is little that you can do about it, except to
filter them out.
>
>--
>Norman


Re: Someone sending e-mails with my address by Lanwench

Lanwench
Sun Apr 18 10:57:42 CDT 2004

Arrid XX Dry wrote:
> Yes, there are viruses that then send e-mails with the
> virus to other people on the infected user's address book.

Yes, but it's less likely that the OP has a virus, than that someone who has
her address in their address book has a virus. Most viruses spoof the sender
by grabbing addresses from the infected computer, so the purported sender
gets the NDRs....of course, the OP, like everyone else, needs good,
constantly updated antivirus software and all that good stuff, but it is not
very likely that his/her computer has the virus based on the info provided.

>
> If you didn't know that, I'll buy you a beer and explain
> it to you.

I'll take the beer anyway.

>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> In article <059c01c424ac$d8fcaf70$a101280a@phx.gbl>,
>> anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com says...
>>
>>> Unfortunately, it sounds like you may have a virus of some
>>> kind.
>>
>> Stop your drinking. Or stop offering advice. The alcohol appears to
>> have impaired your judgement.
>>
>> --
>> Norman



Re: Someone sending e-mails with my address by Lanwench

Lanwench
Sun Apr 18 10:58:18 CDT 2004

Arrid XX Dry wrote:
> Ah, see? This is the virus I was referring to. Maybe I was
> mixed up with who had the virus or whatever, but what I
> was basically explaining to that person was correct. Now,
> I won't have to explain the virus to you!
>
> The offer for me buying you a beer still stands. After
> all, a man always pays for the woman's first drink.

My goodness, where do you live, and what year is it? :-)




Re: Someone sending e-mails with my address by Arrid

Arrid
Sun Apr 18 12:46:25 CDT 2004


>-----Original Message-----
>My goodness, where do you live, and what year is it? :-)

lol

Re: Someone sending e-mails with my address by N

N
Sun Apr 18 18:09:49 CDT 2004

In article <077f01c42507$d2ca7960$a301280a@phx.gbl>,
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com says...

> Yes, there are viruses that then send e-mails with the
> virus to other people on the infected user's address book.

Since at least Klez, over a year ago, modern viruses do not use the email
address for the infected computer. It would be a rare thing to see the viral
email point back to the infected computer in today's world.

> If you didn't know that, I'll buy you a beer and explain
> it to you.

The problem, sir, is that you don't seem to comprehend the latest crop of
viruses. If the O.P. is seeing bounces from bad addresses, it is much more
likely that her email address has been forged, and that the infected
computer spewing those viral messages is not hers.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Re: Someone sending e-mails with my address by N

N
Sun Apr 18 18:13:09 CDT 2004

In article <072901c42508$7880ce90$a601280a@phx.gbl>,
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com says...

> Ah, see? This is the virus I was referring to. Maybe I was
> mixed up with who had the virus or whatever, but what I
> was basically explaining to that person was correct. Now,
> I won't have to explain the virus to you!

...

But you said that the O.P. was likely infected. I am saying that she likely
is not infected, but some other computer is infected. There is not much that
she can do about somebody else's infected computer.

> The offer for me buying you a beer still stands. After
> all, a man always pays for the woman's first drink.

I refuse to accept gifts from fools. Others might perceive that as me taking
advantage of the fool.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Re: Someone sending e-mails with my address by N

N
Sun Apr 18 18:14:40 CDT 2004

In article <MPG.1aeb1ac69fc9bd33989680@msnews.microsoft.com>,
bkomar@nospam.komarconsulting.com says...

> There really is not much that you can do. Someone that you know is
> infected with a virus...

Or somebody that she doesn't know.

> ...that is sending emails with the From field
> populated from the address book.

Or from some other file on the HDD that contains email addresses.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Re: Someone sending e-mails with my address by Brian

Brian
Sun Apr 18 19:07:39 CDT 2004

In article <MPG.1aecabbeb38197f1989eab@msnews.microsoft.com>,
nsm@blackhole.aosake.net says...
> In article <MPG.1aeb1ac69fc9bd33989680@msnews.microsoft.com>,
> bkomar@nospam.komarconsulting.com says...
>
> > There really is not much that you can do. Someone that you know is
> > infected with a virus...
>
> Or somebody that she doesn't know.
>
> > ...that is sending emails with the From field
> > populated from the address book.
>
> Or from some other file on the HDD that contains email addresses.
>
>
Good points, Norm. Bottom line, I highly doubt that the source of the
problem is her computer if she has the latest updates and virus scanning
software signatures installed
Brian